tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-273965892024-03-07T18:33:31.221-08:00Screw Loose ChangeDedicated to Exposing the Lies, Distortions and Myths in the Movie Loose ChangeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4689125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-4716821175712499902021-11-23T10:37:00.001-08:002021-11-23T10:37:25.242-08:00Korey Rowe Plus Twenty<p> The <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/loose-change-korey-rowe-911-truth-conspiracy/?utm_campaign=pwrem-usa&utm_medium=acq-nat&utm_source=facebook&utm_content=national-loosechange&fbclid=IwAR0_-2oRBPe8KIeOaOsboHnLWshIz6g-hy7Is82g9HN7EVZtscWKvbw4wZE">Washington Post</a> has a surprisingly long and sympathetic look back at one of the Loose Change triplets, Korey Rowe, and his difficulties and challenges. Hopefully he gets his life together.</p><p><br /></p><p class="
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11/11/07 Update: Loose Change Final Cut has just been released and so we have not prepared a full debunking. Both James and I have many comments about the movie below and I started a <a href="http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=3148033#post3148033">thread over at JREF</a> with some examples of mistakes in the film. Much of the rest of the information in this particular post concerns the earlier versions of Loose Change. <br />
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Because this blog is getting so much traffic from Google searches and referrals from various forums and Wikipedia, we decided to put one post up top to link to information our newest visitors are apparently looking for. <br />
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First, if you have not seen the film and want to watch it, be sure to watch the <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3214024953129565561&ei=zjNySe-6Bouk-wGi06TkCw&q=Screw+Loose+Change+Movie&hl=en">annotated version</a>, which was named after this blog, Screw Loose Change. The creator did a terrific job on this, and we strongly recommend watching this version rather than Dylan Avery's cut. <br />
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James has put together a list of major lies in Loose Change. Here's <a href="http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/05/top-lies-and-deceptions-of-loose.html">Part 1</a>. <a href="http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/05/top-lies-and-deceptions-of-loose_15.html">Part 2</a>. <a href="http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/05/top-lies-and-deceptions-in-loose.html">Part 3</a>. <a href="http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/05/top-lies-and-deceptions-in-loose_17.html">Part 4</a>. <br />
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I compiled three <a href="http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/05/three-easily-understood-lies-in-loose.html">very easily refuted lies</a> in the movie. I also showed three <a href="http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/05/three-tricks-and-distortions-in-loose.html">tricks and distortions</a> that are used throughout the film. <br />
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A friend of the blog named Mark Roberts (aka <a href="http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=57424&page=80">Gravy at the JREF forums</a>) compiled this amazing <a href="http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/LooseChangeGuide.html">Viewer's Guide to Loose Change</a>, (now HTML) which includes a complete transcript of the movie, pictures and links that refute many of the claims, and which highlights the changes between Version 1 and Version 2. <br />
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The hot new film in 9-11 Denial is called 9-11 Mysteries. One of our JREF buddies, The Doc, has put together <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6243624912447824934">a rebuttal video</a> called (you guessed it!) Screw 9-11 Mysteries, and assembled a <a href="http://www.911mysteriesguide.com/">viewers' guide to 9-11 Mysteries</a>. <br />
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Many 9-11 Deniers focus on the collapse of World Trade Center 7, which fell at 5:20 PM on September 11, almost seven hours after the North Tower. If you want a really detailed analysis of WTC 7, I recommend Mark Robert's <a href="http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/introduction">WTC 7 and the Lies of the 9/11 Truth Movement</a>. I also recommend the BBC's terrific video on <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9072062020229593250#">The Third Tower</a>. <br />
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If you'd like to discuss the ideas about 9-11 you've encountered here or elsewhere, another friend of the blog started a <a href="http://screwloosechange.xbehome.com/">Screw Loose Change Forum</a>. It's a very lively place with lots of opinion back and forth between both sides. There's also a <a href="http://www.myspace.com/screwloosechange">Screw Loose Change MySpace page</a>, with some animated commentary. Of course, we also welcome comments on our posts. <br />
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If you're looking for detailed rebuttals of other aspects of 9-11 Denial, I heartily recommend <a href="http://www.911myths.com/index.html">9-11 Myths</a>, <a href="http://www.debunking911.com/">Debunking 9-11</a> and <a href="http://internetdetectives.biz/case/loose-change">Internet Detectives</a>. <br />
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Markyx has also put together a video (note: graphic images and strong language) called <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBT0lC77ayA">9-11 Deniers Speak</a>. If you think Dylan Avery and Jim Fetzer have any respect for the victims of 9-11, just watch this film. There are five parts. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUZnHpkyCp4&mode=related&search=">Part II</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8srm5Lk4hM&mode=related&search=">Part III</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-HmcVtiX-s&mode=related&search=">Part IV</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr2MZwxJRYI&mode=related&search=">Part V</a>. <br />
There's also a Google Video which is <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7216643725166640147&hl=en">all in one part</a>. <br />
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This should be enough to get you started debunking Loose Change to your friends. We have a lot more content below this post. <br />
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Notes on unusual terms/abbreviations: Looser (not a misspelling of Loser)=Believer in Loose Change. CT=Conspiracy Theory, Conspiracy Theorist. Truther=9-11 Conspiracy Theorist (all Loosers are Truthers, not all Truthers are Loosers). OS=Official Story. CD= Controlled Demoliton. LIHOP: Let It Happen On Purpose; theory that the government knew the 9-11 attacks were coming but allowed them to happen to further other goals of theirs. MIHOP: Made It Happen On Purpose; theory that the government planned and orchestrated the attacks. Most Truthers are MIHOP. <br />
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Update: Comments closed on this post, which is intended solely as a pointer. Because Haloscan will not let us close comments on a particular post, be forewarned: <span style="font-weight: bold;">Don't leave a comment in this post or it will be deleted</span>. <br />
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Update II: Note on comments: Because some of our commenters have chosen to act like children, we are no longer allowing comments.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-34748155643513157812018-11-18T21:08:00.002-08:002018-11-26T14:45:47.271-08:00The World Trade Center MemorialAfter all these years I finally got the opportunity to visit the Ground Zero and the World Trade Center Memorial. Thankfully, it was completely free of Truthers. I guess they died out years ago. The memorial was rather striking, and I must confess to a few tears while gazing over the names. The museum was also well worth visiting.<br />
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<br />James B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/01475924582753322002noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-86715441138926391692018-01-06T13:10:00.000-08:002018-01-06T13:10:06.319-08:00Truther Dating AdviceApparently there are <a href="https://slate.com/life/2017/12/dear-prudence-im-dating-a-9-11-truther.html">Truthers </a>still out there and they are trying to reproduce. Who knew?
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Q. Conspiracy theories: My cousin recently set me up on a date with a really great guy that she knew from work. At first, I was hesitant to go on a date with him as he is 43 and I am 27, however I decided to give him a chance and I was really glad I did. He’s smart, funny, and easy to hang out with. I am also very attracted to him physically.
The only bad thing, so far, is that during a text conversation, he alluded to believing that 9/11 was an inside job. At first I thought he was joking, but further questions revealed that he was not. We discussed it in person the next time we met up, and he was joking about it with me but didn’t change his stance. Is this a deal breaker? I felt bad afterward because I was basically making fun of him to his face not realizing he actually believed what he was saying.</blockquote>
James B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/01475924582753322002noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-90427405693858554932017-08-01T19:51:00.001-07:002017-08-01T22:13:44.006-07:00John Oliver on Alex JonesHBO's John Oliver does an extended piece on our old friend Alex Jones. Pretty funny, but content warning, some of it does get a little... err... anatomical. Hey, it is HBO.<br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #02141f; font-family: "georgia" , "cambria" , "times new roman" , "times" , serif;">Infowars founder Alex Jones was diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder in a psychiatric evaluation, the divorce case manager confirmed during his custody trial in Austin on Wednesday. Austin psychologist Alissa Sherry said that a different doctor compiled the report, part of what she said was the most time-consuming divorce case she has ever worked. People diagnosed with NPD typically show traits including a lack of empathy, arrogance, and a propensity for grandiose fantasies. </span></blockquote>
James B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/01475924582753322002noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-54216465514184896842017-04-17T12:51:00.001-07:002017-04-20T17:38:56.938-07:00Alex Jones' Lawyers Admit He's Putting On an Act<a href="http://www.mystatesman.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/travis-county-custody-case-jury-will-search-for-real-alex-jones/rnbWzMHnFCd5SOPgP3A34J/">It's admitted</a>, as Alex would say.<br />
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He hasn't come across our radar much in quite awhile, although obviously he has been prominent in his support of Donald Trump's astonishing campaign for the presidency. But Jones was a big-time Truther back in the first decade of this century. I still remember him claiming that James and I worked in the basement of the Pentagon.<br />
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There was a video years ago of him going on a tirade, absolutely apoplectic, to the point where you thought he was going to burst into flames. And then he turned to Jason Bermas and gave him a wink.<br />
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Turns out that Jones' public persona is going to be used against him in court by his ex-wife in a custody battle. Which has his attorneys scrambling to distance him from the nutty things he says and does.<br />
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<blockquote>At a recent pretrial hearing, attorney Randall Wilhite told state District Judge Orlinda Naranjo that using his client Alex Jones’ on-air Infowars persona to evaluate Alex Jones as a father would be like judging Jack Nicholson in a custody dispute based on his performance as the Joker in “Batman.”<br />
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“He’s playing a character,” Wilhite said of Jones. “He is a performance artist.”</blockquote><br />
A couple years back somebody looked his house up online and found it was worth something like $450,000. I didn't use the information partly because I saw it as irrelevant, and partly because it actually seemed like a pretty modest home. Turns out Alex could afford quite a bit more:<br />
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Whew!Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-40477080812084655742017-03-20T16:08:00.002-07:002017-03-20T17:25:46.383-07:00What's Box Boy Richard Gage Up to These Days?If you check <a href="http://www.ae911truth.org/gallery/events.html">his events page</a>, it looks like "not much" is the answer. The most recent event shown is the 15th anniversary, where Gage shared the stage with Munchkin Barbara Honegger. <br />
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But it turns out that the founder of AE911Truth participated in the recent Nation of Islam conference. It's not like Gage to avoid publicizing such events; when he appeared there in 2012 he was certainly crowing about the opportunity to expose Louis Farrakhan's followers to 9-11 Troof.<br />
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Back then <a href="http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2012/02/gage-barrett-and-farrakhan-together-at.html">we bashed him a bit</a> based on inside information we had stating that Boy Wonder Kevin Barrett would be appearing with him. As it turned out, our insider was wrong. Waterboy Kevin Ryan appeared instead.<br />
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And indeed, this may give us something of a clue as to why <a href="https://www.noi.org/911revisited/">Richard Gage</a> is not anxious to publicize his appearance at the Nation of Islam rally. This time around, not only was he appearing with Kevin "the Holocaust is a hideously destructive myth" Barrett, but also Christopher Bollyn.<br />
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Bollyn gave us quite a bit of amusement back in the early days of this blog. Once a reporter for the Holocaust-denying, white separatist rag the American Free Press, Bollyn was an early investigoogler of 9-11 nuttery, with the result that when a more respectable and scholarly-seeming man like David Ray Griffin came along, Bollyn's work was often cited. Indeed, I <a href="http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/05/griffin-book-usual-suspect-sources.html">used to joke</a> that Griffin seemed unable to complete a book without referring to him once or twice.<br />
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One afternoon, Bollyn was apparently drinking when he noticed a suspicious looking vehicle parked in his neighborhood. When he confronted the occupants of the vehicle, they apparently freely admitted they were local cops on a stakeout of a nearby residence that they suspected of drug-dealing.<br />
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Well, paranoid people are going to be paranoid, and Bollyn assumed that the cops were in fact spying on him. Big altercation, Bollyn assaults a cop, and he's up on charges. He was convicted and probably facing about 90 days in the big house, but <a href="http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/06/bollyn-on-lam.html">he lammed instead</a>.<br />
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So this time around, Gage shared the stage with two Holocaust deniers, one of whom may still be a fugitive from justice.<br />
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I'm sure he'd much rather we talk about <a href="http://911blogger.com/news/2017-03-13/stand-truth-government-researcher-speaks-out-0">his exciting</a> new NIST whistleblower.<br />
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But it's a classic false appeal to authority. As Peter Michael Ketcham himself notes in the video, he did not work on the WTC investigation. He states that he was in the mathematical computations area, which leads me to wonder if we are in for some real deep calculations that prove inside job.<br />
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Not to worry. Ketcham's cited evidence has nothing to do with number crunching. It's the usual "symmetrical collapse into its own footprint at near free-fall acceleration." Ketcham is Charlie Sheen with less hair.<br />
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Here's <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/petermichaelketcham/">Ketcham's Linked-In page</a>. His current occupation?<br />
<br />
<blockquote>Mobile application developer currently building a data visualization application for Apple iOS devices with an emphasis on accessibility for disabled users. Other interests include data science, virtual reality environments, haptic technologies, hierarchical data formats, matrix computations, and Swift numeric data types for rational numbers, complex numbers, and quaternions.</blockquote><br />
Again, if he were questioning the numbers used by NIST he might have some credibility. But he's not, he's just parroting the Truther talking points. Unknownnoreply@blogger.com8tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-59654555031494673282016-09-17T13:29:00.000-07:002016-09-17T13:35:36.603-07:00David Ray Griffin Comes Up With a Brilliant Way to Dupe People Into Buying His New BookGotta hand it to him, this <a href="http://www.journalof911studies.com/why-i-wrote-another-911-book/">is a real con artist</a> at work:<br />
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<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Not make it obvious, by means of the title, the cover, or the table of contents--that this is ultimately a 9-11 truth book.</blockquote>
However, you can see the fly rapidly heading towards the ointment in this following sentence:<br />
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The hope is that some people, not being aware of my notoriety, read enough of the first part of the book to see that I am not an idiot.</blockquote>
The book sounds like a real stomach--err, page-turner, from the title: Bush and Cheney: How They Ruined America and the World. Suck 'em in with the Bush-bashing, and then switch to the 9-11 nuttery once you've got them all in a lather. BTW, I suspect that even the Bush-haters will have problems with this part:<br />
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... American and the world are headed towards ruination because of the policies of the Bush-Cheney Administration--as continued in most cases by the Obama Administration...</blockquote>
Gee, wonder why it's not the Obama-Biden administration? Maybe because nobody thinks of Biden as the evil genius pulling the strings of the Obama puppet? Unknownnoreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-63060509141006563172016-09-10T13:42:00.002-07:002016-09-10T13:42:26.087-07:00Jill Stein Goes for the Crackpot VoteWith a call for a new 9-11 investigation, which contains the <a href="http://www.jill2016.com/on_911">usual BS talking points</a>:<br />
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<blockquote class="tr_bq">
The families and friends of those who were murdered on 9/11 deserve justice. They also deserve to know the truth.<br />
Led by the families of those who died on 9/11, the American people
wanted—and deserved—a comprehensive and independent inquiry into the
attacks. The Bush administration initially said an inquiry was
unnecessary, claiming that the perpetrators had been identified and
their methods and motives were clear.<br />
It is well known that the 9/11 Commission produced a report containing so many omissions and distortions that <em>Harper's Magazine</em>
described it as "whitewash as public service"—a document that "defrauds
the nation." The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission wrote a book just two
years after the final commission report, saying, "We were set up to
fail." The 9/11 Commission was not given enough money, time, or access
to relevant classified information.</blockquote>
The usual misreading of what Kean and Hamilton really said:<br />
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<blockquote class="tr_bq">
"Both of us were aware of grumbling around Washington that the 9/11
Commission was doomed--if not designed--to fail: the commission would
splinter down partisan lines; lose its credibility by leaking classified
information; be denied the necessary access to do its job; or alienate
the 9/11 families who had fought on behalf of its creation. What we could not have anticipated were the remarkable people and
circumstances that would coalesce within and around the 9/11 Commission
over the coming twenty months to enable our success."</blockquote>
From what I have seen, the Rebunkers seem to be on Trump's side; probably because he's been friendly with Alex Jones. I suspect that this will help Stein get Jon Gold's support. <br />
Unknownnoreply@blogger.com31tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-45596391989998184102016-08-29T11:40:00.001-07:002016-09-19T16:29:38.608-07:00Jones & Company Beclown the Europhysics News<div style="text-align: left;">
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In terms of our usual metric, TTFLMO (time to first lie, mistake or omission) <a href="http://www.europhysicsnews.org/articles/epn/pdf/2016/04/epn2016474p21.pdf">this one</a> actually does pretty well; it is almost three paragraphs into the article. Talking about why high-rise buildings usually do not collapse due to fires, they write:</div>
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2) Most high-rises have fire suppression systems (water sprinklers), which further prevent a fire from releasing sufficient energy to heat the steel to a critical failure state; </div>
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True enough as far as it goes, but it omits one critical detail: when WTC-2 (the South Tower) collapsed, it took the water mains with it, and thus there were no sprinklers running in WTC-1 and WTC-7 to prevent the fires from spreading. As a practical matter, I suspect that the sprinklers in WTC-1 and WTC-2 were already not functioning after the plane impacts, but even if they were they would have been insufficient to put out the massive fires in those two buildings.<br />
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But after that, the errors and omissions abound. Next paragraph:<br />
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3) Structural members are protected by fireproofing materials, which are designed to prevent them from reaching failure temperatures within specified time periods; and </blockquote>
Ignores the obvious, which is that the impact of the plane debris stripped away a good deal of the fireproofing. This is the usual Truther nonsense of focusing solely on the fires and not considering the enormous energy released by the two 757s (correction: <a href="https://off-guardian.org/2016/09/12/screw-loose-change-respond-to-jones-et-al/">767s</a>) when they hit the two towers.<br />
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4) Steel-framed high-rises are designed to be highly redundant structural systems. Thus, if a localized failure occurs, it does not result in a disproportionate collapse of the entire structure.</div>
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Which ignores the unusual tube-in-tube design of the towers, which were not as capable of shifting the enormous loads they encountered on 9-11 as conventional skyscrapers.<br />
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The total collapse of WTC 7 at 5:20 PM on 9/11, shown in Fig. 2, is remarkable because it exemplified all the signature features of an implosion: The building dropped in absolute free fall for the first 2.25 seconds of its descent over a distance of 32 meters or eight stories [3]. Its transition from stasis to free fall was sudden, occurring in approximately one-half second. It fell symmetrically straight down. Its steel frame was almost entirely dismembered and deposited mostly inside the building’s footprint, while most of its concrete was pulverized into tiny particles. Finally, the collapse was rapid, occurring in less than seven seconds.</div>
</blockquote>
All the signature features of an implosion? Sorry, Dr Jones, but I have watched quite a few controlled demolition implosions of buildings before and there were several missing from WTC-7's collapse on 9-11:<br />
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1. No deafening explosions of the shaped charges which (Jones admits) are usually used in controlled demolitions.<br />
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2. No prior removal of the glass and other materials which might impede the collapse (not to mention the belongings inside the buiding.<br />
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3. No miles of detonation cord as is commonly used to ensure the simultaneous (or nearly) loss of load-bearing supports to the building.<br />
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And of course, when it comes to the towers, the usual focus on why the NIST report didn't go past the moment that collapse became inevitable:<br />
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Whereas NIST did attempt to analyze and model the collapse of WTC 7, it did not do so in the case of the Twin Towers. In NIST’s own words, “The focus of the investigation was on the sequence of events from the instant of aircraft impact to the initiation of collapse for each tower....this sequence is referred to as the ‘probable collapsesequence,’ although it includes little analysis of the structural behaviour of the tower after the conditions for collapse initiation were reached and collapse became inevitable.”[5]</div>
</blockquote>
Gee, I don't know, maybe it's because the collapse became, you know, inevitable? After that, there are too many variables to really measure, but it doesn't really matter.<br />
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Thus, the definitive report on the collapse of the Twin Towers contains no analysis of why the lower sections failed to arrest or even slow the descent of the upper sections—which NIST acknowledges “came down essentially in free fall” [5-6]—nor does it explain the various other phenomena observed during the collapses. When a group of petitioners filed a formal Request for Correction asking NIST to perform such analysis, NIST replied thatit was “unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse” because “the computer models [were] not able to converge on a solution.” </div>
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If NIST really acknowledges that the Twin Towers came down "essentially in free fall" then bad on them. As for why the lower sections failed to arrest (they did slow) the descent of the upper floors, it is blindingly obvious: The floors were connected to the exterior and central columns of the building. As the weight from above collapsed on each floor, it pulled in on the connections until they snapped on the exterior. Very quickly the exterior portions of the building peeled away from the floors, leaving nothing to support them. This is why you can see, in aerial photographs of the devastation, large sections of the exterior walls virtually intact.<br />
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The references section contains four footnotes from JONES, and one from the ridiculous Bentham paper. I hope that there will be some vigorous pushback on this article from the magazine's subscribers.Unknownnoreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-3904002509485501612016-08-07T15:59:00.002-07:002016-08-07T16:02:27.438-07:00DenialSeveral years ago I <a href="http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/search?q=lipstadt">posted </a>on Deborah Lipstadt's books Denying the Holocaust and History on Trial, so I am rather excited to see the latter has been made into a movie staring Rachel Weisz. I will be standing in line for this one.<br />
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<iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="255" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hYcx43AmAyY" width="440"></iframe>James B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/01475924582753322002noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-2631881509829567052016-07-14T21:39:00.000-07:002016-07-14T21:40:49.146-07:00The Twenty Eight PagesThe 28 redacted pages of the Congressional 9/11 Report (not the 9/11 Commission as commonly misunderstood) has been under discussion for several months, now it appears it may finally be <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/news/28-pages-of-congressional-report-on-saudi-ties-to-911-to-be-released-soon/">released</a>.<br />
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Twenty-eight pages of a 2002 Congressional report on the September 11, 2001 terror attacks -- a section which contains information regarding alleged Saudi ties -- will soon be released, a Democratic source confirms to CBS News.<br />
The Obama administration must first decide whether or not to declassify the material, according to the office of House Speaker Paul Ryan. But House and Senate leadership then decides whether or not to release the material, and -- if they do decide to do so -- when and how it will be distributed.<br />
Ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff of California, weighed in on the possibility that the White House could declassify the previously redacted pages within the next couple of days.</blockquote>
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My prediction. These pages will shockingly show that Islamists on the Arabian Peninsula were behind the 9/11 attacks.
James B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/01475924582753322002noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-30034960871007879452016-05-01T04:06:00.000-07:002016-05-05T01:08:28.849-07:00Has It Only Been Ten Years? A little more than a decade ago, I was looking for reviews of the then-current movie by Paul Greenglass, United 93. As it happened a few writers for the Huffington Post had been invited to the Tribeca premiere and they wrote glowing reviews of the film. But in the comments section I found numerous references to the internet sensation, Loose Change, which, I was assured would change my life forever.<br />
<br />
It was late on a Friday afternoon, and so I watched Loose Change and sure enough it changed my life forever. I wrote a <a href="http://brainster.blogspot.com/2006/04/united-93-nutbars-come-out-check-out.html">post about it on my main blog</a>, Brainster's:<br />
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Let me put this as bluntly as possible. If you believe the vast conspiracy theory of <span style="font-style: italic;">Loose Change</span>,
you are a nut. Ignoring for the moment the debunking provided by
Popular Mechanics, consider that you would have to believe in a
conspiracy involving hundreds of people concerning the biggest news
event of this century so far, and that none of these people have come
forward.</blockquote>
As it happened, James B, a blogger whom I had cooperated with on a couple posts debunking the NY Times columnist Paul Krugman, sent me an email after my post, suggesting that we collaborate on a blog that he had already started, called <a href="http://loosechangeloosescrew.blogspot.com/">Loose Change, Loose Screw</a>. As the marketing genius that I am, I came up with a better title, Screw Loose Change, although I admit, that most people seemed to miss the "Screw Loose" part, and seemed to think that the blog title was only a middle finger to Dylan and the boys.<br />
<br />
What came next I certainly never predicted. We ended up with 10,000 hits in our first 24 hours. It turned out that there was a huge public (and media) demand for a site that debunked the ridiculous claims of Loose Change. Within the first few months, either James or I was interviewed on at least a dozen radio programs, including the BBC's World News Today. We were cited in the 9-11 Fifth Anniversary issues of Time and US News and World Report.<br />
<br />
In February of 2007, I collaborated with Stephen Lemons of the Phoenix New Times to break the story that a Chandler, Arizona, conference of the 9-11 kooks was being hosted by a holocaust denier named Eric D. Williams. Stephen was kind enough to six months later get me featured on the front cover of the Phoenix New Times, and no, I still haven't lost the beer belly, damnit!<br />
<br />
Reflections, ten years later? For starters, timing is everything. Debunking the 9-11 conspiracy theories (and blogging) was hot in 2006, and James and I hopped on top of a wave. We weren't the first (McKinney Sucks), and we weren't the best (Mark (Gravy) Roberts), but we showed up and got lucky.<br />
<br />
Nowadays the conspiracy theories about 9-11 have been relegated to the lunatic fringe. I'd like to take credit (along with James B, Gravy and others), but realistically they could never survive any kind of hard scrutiny, and they were doomed with Obama's election in 2008.<br />
<br />
Thanks to James B, and thanks to the many other debunkers who have done the hard work. For the most part, I admit I have been Nelson Muntz.Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-74352427873661527902016-04-26T11:50:00.001-07:002016-04-26T14:38:58.898-07:00Et Tu, Basile?The Troofers sure seem to be alchemists in reverse; they take gold and turn it into lead. Remember Truth Burn? A metal worker created a 9-11 Truth sign which he was going to burn with thermite at Burning Man. IIRC they raised about $20,000 for that one, and what did he do? Burn some thermite in a can.<br />
<br />
Basile seems quite <a href="http://www.markbasile.org/">reasonable by comparison</a>. He raised $5000 and what did he do? Well, nothing, as far as I can see:<br />
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<span style="background-color: yellow;">Mark </span>
<span style="background-color: yellow;">Basile</span><span style="background-color: yellow;">
is no longer associated with the project. <br />
Please do not send any more donations. </span></blockquote>
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No mention of where the money went (or, for that matter, the dust samples). Also no mention of who is still "associated" with the project.<br />
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Update: Well, that got results. Now Basile's status reads:<br />
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April 26, 2016: "I am working on it. I
am doing the best I can." </blockquote>
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Unknownnoreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-73329577392515705922016-04-17T18:42:00.001-07:002016-04-17T18:42:05.548-07:0028 Pages Plus Saudi Lawsuit in the NewsThere's definitely a linkage <a href="http://nypost.com/2016/04/17/how-us-covered-up-saudi-role-in-911/">between the two stories:</a><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">In its report on the still-censored “28 pages” implicating the Saudi
government in 9/11, “60 Minutes” last weekend said the Saudi role in the
attacks has been “soft-pedaled” to protect America’s delicate alliance
with the oil-rich kingdom.</span></blockquote>
<br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">That’s quite an understatement.</span></blockquote>
<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<span style="font-family: inherit;">
</span><span style="font-family: inherit;">Actually, the kingdom’s involvement was deliberately covered up at
the highest levels of our government. And the coverup goes beyond
locking up 28 pages of the Saudi report in a vault in the US Capitol
basement. Investigations were throttled. Co-conspirators were let off
the hook.</span></blockquote>
</blockquote>
And the 9-11 Families are hoping that the 28 pages get released because their attempted lawsuit against the <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3544355/9-11-families-furious-Obama-administration-siding-Saudi-Arabia-country-threatens-pull-750-billion-U-S-assets-government-holds-liable-2001-terrorist-attacks.html">Saudi government would undoubtedly</a> get a shot in the arm:<br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Until
now,the Obama administration has so far refused to reveal the contents
of the missing pages and looks to be leaving the decision to a
Congressional vote. </span></span></blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Speaking to the <a class="" href="https://www.blogger.com/null" rel="nofollow" style="font-weight: bold;" target="_blank">New York Times, </a>Mindy
Kleinberg, whose husband died in the World Trade Center on September 11
said: 'It's stunning to think that our government would back the Saudis
over its own citizens.' </span><span style="font-size: 1.2em;"> </span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size: 1.2em;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Ms.
Kleinberg is part of a group of victims' family members pushing for the
legislation against the Middle Eastern country, however so far all
attempts to sue the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia have failed.</span></span></blockquote>
I think the Saudi involvement is much less than billed. Osama had some credibility among wealthy Saudis after Soviet-Afghanistan war. and he was able to capitalize on that with his purported charity, the rather innocuously named "Social Services". Some wealthy Saudis, and probably even some royals donated to his group.<br />
<br />
<br />
But, as Tom Kean pointed out years ago, the usual exhortation to follow the money in this case was useless, because the money involved was peanuts. <br />
<br />
The 60 Minutes report <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-911-classified-report-steve-kroft/">is transcribed here</a>. Note this especially annoying part:<br />
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Steve Kroft: And when we say, "The Saudis," you mean the government, the--<br />
Bob Graham: I mean--<br />
Steve Kroft: --rich people in the country? Charities--<br />
Bob Graham: All of the above.</blockquote>
Hey, Kroft, shut up for a second after you say "You mean the government." By continuing to talk you weakened the argument being made.<br />
<br />
Kroft interviews several of the 9-11 commissioners who are in favor of releasing the report. But, as is typical of advocacy journalism (as compared to real reporting) he omits putting on camera anybody who opposes the release, although he quite obviously paraphrases Philip Zelikow's comments:<br />
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<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Roemer and others who have actually read the 28 pages, describe them as a
working draft similar to a grand jury or police report that includes
provocative evidence -- some verified, and some not.</blockquote>
I remain in favor of releasing the 28 pages. But the dishonest reporting by 60 Minutes actually makes me less comfortable with that position.Unknownnoreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-52544515791746267312016-02-05T15:07:00.000-08:002016-02-05T15:07:00.798-08:00Mark Basile's Study "May" Be Ready This YearGotta give the Troofers credit <a href="http://markbasile.org/">on this one</a>; they have shown the patience of Job for Basile.<br />
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I can tell you that Mark will most likely not be giving us regular updates, in
the form of little progress reports, as we had initially planned. It just seems
as if keeping any kind of schedule is not really an option for Mark, presumably
due to time constraints. He did say at some point a few months ago that he was
planning to take a little vacation to sort out the study, but that has not
happened yet, as far as I know...<br />
<br />
It has always been extremely difficult to reach Mark but in recent months he has
been even more reclusive than normal, and I suspect that a series of email/phone
calling spamming from people I won´t mention is responsible for that.<br />
<br />
We will certainly notify our readers whenever we have something...and I would
love to be able to give you some sort of a promise for results within a certain
time-frame but I will have to refrain given past experience..<br />
<br />
Last autumn Mark sounded like he was about to make a big push to get things done
but then some things got in the way, and again he indicated to Richard in Boston
that he is about to get things done...but still no news.<br />
<br />
Personally I am fairly optimistic that he will have results for us this year,
but I am not making any promises.</blockquote>
Let's remember that he raised the $5000 needed for the study over 2 years ago. He's going to make NIST's report on Building 7 look rushed. Unknownnoreply@blogger.com204tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-47597241814126856572016-01-31T10:33:00.002-08:002016-02-02T09:38:18.693-08:00The Mathematical Improbability of Large Conspiracy TheoriesOne of the points we have always tried to make here is that although conspiracies certainly happen, any conspiracy more complex than a burglary or assassination involving half a dozen people inevitably becomes exposed. The Truthers on the other hand create these theories involving the ridiculously complex cooperation of thousands of people across dozens of different organizations, often for no other reason than that they need it to be so in order to fit their pet theory.<br />
<br />
A <a href="http://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2016-01-26-too-many-minions-spoil-plot">British academic</a> explores this fact in more scientific terms:<br />
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If you’re thinking of creating a massive conspiracy, you may be better scaling back your plans, according to an Oxford University researcher.
While we can all keep a secret, a study by Dr David Robert Grimes suggests that large groups of people sharing in a conspiracy will very quickly give themselves away. The study is published online by journal PLOS ONE.</blockquote>
James B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/01475924582753322002noreply@blogger.com45tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-48726694083931446852016-01-27T17:47:00.000-08:002016-01-30T13:46:56.269-08:00He's Baaaaa-aaaack!<div class="ytp-html5-clipboard">
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I can't even remember how many versions there have been: 1,2,2e,Final Cut, American Coup, and I'm sure I've forgotten one or two.</div>
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I doubt I'll be reviewing this one any time soon. It's more interesting to see the physical changes in the two. Dylan actually looks like he's graying, and I would not recognize Korey if I saw him on the street.<br />
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Update: And right on cue, Box Boy Gage is back with another look at his "experiment that changed the world."<br />
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Nice paneling; I assume it's at somebody's Tahoe ski lodge. Pretty big of him to take time out from his busy day to provide amusement for us.</div>
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Unknownnoreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-24938538619412448762015-12-28T11:42:00.003-08:002015-12-28T11:42:39.771-08:00Jesse Ventura and Michael ShermerOnly a bit on 9/11, but skeptic Michael Shermer and conspiracy theorist extraordinaire Jesse Ventura have what actually is a relatively amiable <a href="http://www.ora.tv/offthegrid/2015/12/23/michael-shermer-interview-0_5yibr85ojloi">conversation</a>.James B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/01475924582753322002noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-59106495313302187222015-11-21T06:50:00.000-08:002015-11-21T06:50:39.337-08:00Boston Globe Did the Unthinkable?That's Box Boy Gage's headline on a recent post at 9-11 Flogger, followed by the thrilled mention that the unthinkable was that the Globe gave them some "ink". No surprise, what Gage only hints at is that the ink <a href="https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2015/11/16/the-truthers-and/Y3RrUaEHaOakG60crFM9bK/story.html">was dipped in</a> with a poison pen:<br />
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It’s hard to understand how Asner, an early 9/11 “truther” who has
suggested that investors profited from 9/11, or the running gag line
that is Geraldo Rivera, also featured in the video, add to the group’s
credibility. “We’re not using Geraldo for our credibility,” Gage told
me, “We’re using our appearance on mainstream media [Fox News] to gain
credit for our cause.”</blockquote>
Credit/credibility; potato potahto. What Gage won't or can't admit is that his appearance on Whorealdo didn't give him any credit; it just removed any last shred of credit that Rivera had remaining after the Secrets of Al Capone's Vault.Unknownnoreply@blogger.com92tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-68597265148242363152015-10-23T18:32:00.001-07:002015-10-23T18:32:12.853-07:00Interview With a SurvivorOur Italian debunking buddies interview a man who was visiting the 64th floor of the South Tower when the first plane hit, and in the stairwell when the second plane hit his building. Some interesting details about <a href="http://undicisettembre.blogspot.com/2015/10/world-trade-center-interview-with.html">the security situation</a>:<br />
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When you go through the lobby you had to get your picture taken and they
were giving you a card with your picture and the date and what floors
you were supposed to be on, with that card you could go to the elevators
and go to whatever floor you were designated to. They really had good
security at the World Trade Center. I went up to the 64th floor of the
South Tower, I talked to the receptionist and she brought me to the
conference room where my meeting was meant to begin at 8 o'clock, I
think we started a little bit late like 8:05. </blockquote>
Unlikely to convince the Troofers that security was too tight for their fanciful thermite emplacement, but then again nothing is going to sway them.<br />
<br />Unknownnoreply@blogger.com48tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27396589.post-3623566228126382092015-09-16T15:35:00.000-07:002015-09-16T15:35:17.346-07:00Sad, Pathetic, Lonely Lives....Obviously a <a href="http://www.ibtimes.com/911-conspiracy-theories-inside-lonely-lives-truthers-still-looking-their-big-break-2091474">cheerful article</a> on the Truthers:<br />
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He sighed and said no one in his family shared his
understanding of 9/11, nor did any of his friends. “I basically can’t
talk about it.”<br />
I asked what it’s like for him to be the
only person he knows who thinks this way. He paused for a long time and
began to tear up.<br />
“I would say it’s really lonely.”</blockquote>
And Bob McIlvaine:<br />
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“It’s brutal. I will never volunteer to talk about it,” Mcllvaine said.
“In my circles, people ignore it. It’s like I’m a leper. I don’t see
many people anymore.” He says his wife supports him, but doesn’t want to
talk about how Bobby died. She says it doesn’t matter, even if his
theories are true, because it won’t bring her son back. “If she started
talking about that she wouldn’t have any friends.” </blockquote>
Who wouldn't want to be a Truther?<br />
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One item of interest:<br />
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Near the end of our conversation, even Gage confessed he misses his life before 9/11 Truth.</blockquote>
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“It
is tiring after nine years, I have to say,” he said. “I am an
architect, I’d rather be practicing architecture. I’ve been full time as
a 9/11 Truth activist for five years and <i>I’m looking forward to going
back to architecture</i>. I make more money, I have more fun.”</blockquote>
Italics added for emphasis. Not sure if he's throwing in the towel or not; he goes on to say. "But the future of my country is at stake," which could certainly be interpreted as meaning that he can't give up the fight. <br />
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