Monday, February 26, 2007

The "Scholars" at the Conference

Members of the various scholars groups appeared at the recent conference in Arizona. First Jim Fetzer hilariously narrows down the list of possibilities as to what destroyed the World Trade Center:

Speculation is the second stage of science, we have to consider the full range of alternative explanations. These can include natural causes like earthquake, hurricane, tornado, human causes, conventional, air crashes, dynamite, RDX, thermite, thermate. Human causes unconventional, mini-nukes, atomic, hydrogen, micro, directed energy weapons, HARP, lasers, masers, plasmoids. And then you need a catch-all hypothesis, maybe you haven't actually figured out the whole range of alternatives. So you need another H4, other alternatives not yet considered.

Gee Jim, you sure you didn't leave anything out? Does he really think we need to consider the possibility of a tornado?

Later on he gets downright offensive:

Look at the extent of the devastation, it was very selective. This was not the sort of thing a hurricane or tornado would bring about. It is as all or only the World Trade Center buildings were targeted.

Uhh genius, they were targeted. Even so, when looking at this, "selective" is not the first word that comes to mind of most people.

Later on Steven Jones actually does a fairly good job refuting Fetzer's arguments. Too bad he doesn't use such rigorous scientific thought regarding his own "research".

Before the Q & A session Kevin Barrett gives a short bit, in which he uses some Orwellian logic to explain how the scholar's schism is a good thing:

People have been pissing and moaning, or as we scholars saying "urinating and ululating" about the break-up of Scholars for 9/11 Truth. It is not a break-up, it is a split into two groups. People ask me, "Why did they split?" and I say, "because there are so many of us, one group can't hold us anymore. And that's actually the truth. This always happens to groups, when they get big they split off.

Yeah, sure Kev. With all those "scholars", you guys must have like... 20 PhD level structural engineers by now, in each group! I can understand how it must be difficult to get things done with all those MIT trained engineers tripping over each other...

In the Q & A, Fetzer humorously gets a bit testy:

Steve was exhibiting a kind of premature conclusion, because neither Judy, nor Morgan nor I are committed to a "space beam" hypothesis, in fact the very use of that phrase is so denigrating that it is inappropriate.

Uhh, Jim, have you taken a look at Judy Wood's website lately, where right there at the top it has Star Wars Beam Weapon? This is hardly something someone else has dreamed up.

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At 26 February, 2007 12:42, Blogger Unknown said...

Earth Shattering Video: BBC Announced Collapse of WTC 7 (as having happened) before it took place.

Hat Tip: SD

At 26 February, 2007 13:30, Blogger CHF said...

So we can finally rule out a tornado strike.

Wow, thank you Captain Fetzer!

At 26 February, 2007 13:31, Blogger CHF said...


so your theory is....what?

That the FDNY and Silverstein were about to blow up WTC7 and then tipped off the BBC for no reason other than to complicate things for themselves?

At 26 February, 2007 14:17, Blogger Unknown said...


What's your theory.

Looks like something else that the 9/11 Commission failed to investigate.

At 26 February, 2007 14:26, Blogger CHF said...

It's called a screw up, BG. It's been known to happen in the media.

Word spread that WTC7 was going to fall, which the BBC mistook for "it fell."

Contrary to twoofer lore, it was well known that WTC7 was expected to collapse.

The FDNY "pulled" back for that reason, remember?

MSNBC Newsman Brian Williams: What we’ve been fearing all afternoon has apparently happened. We’ve been watching number seven World Trade, which was part of the ancillary damage of the explosion and collapse of the other two.

OOoooooooo!!!! We need a new investigation right away!

At 26 February, 2007 14:31, Blogger CHF said...

Looks like something else that the 9/11 Commission failed to investigate.

And they also failed to investigate "up to 8 aircraft" that were hijacked."

And they also didn't look into the "car bomb" that went off that day.

This is just another example of why I don't want a cent of my tax dollars spent on your "new investigation"

You clowns don't trust anyone to carry out the investigation and you'd just investigate stupid shit like this BBC report.

At 26 February, 2007 16:46, Blogger Pat said...

I like that they got that guy from The Hills Have Eyes to intro the Scholars.

At 26 February, 2007 19:28, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

All the CTers going ape shit over a BBC blunder, but I will bet you top dollar not one single truther parasite will take the time to call the BBC for an explanation. And if I am wrong, and one of them calls, I will bet more top dollar that none of them will believe the reason.


At 26 February, 2007 23:38, Blogger Matthew McIntyre said...

Looks like Dylan's spotted some new Scholars:

He blogs about them here.

My JREF thread about them.

It's most amusing. How long before Dylan disappears that blog entry?

At 27 February, 2007 13:19, Blogger Plausible Denial said...

It's an innaccurate story. There is no harm in looking into it a bit. Even the atheists would be in favor of taking a look at the published press release in the archives. Debunking does not mean to throw curiosity to the wind. As atheists, do you want to see the press release?


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