Monday, October 22, 2007

A Response to Mikey Metz

Well, it took awhile, but somebody's finally responded to Mikey Metz's blog post denouncing the 9-11 Truth Movement. Of course, it's the usual Troofer stew of mistakes, lies and logical leaps.

There are reasons to doubt the hijacker story. I remain agnostic on this question of whether they did it, but I can see both sides.

1) The identities are in doubt, yet the government refused to correct them, or to admit they were unsure.

People whose photos appeared as the FBI's hijackers turned up alive. This is very strange.

Very strange indeed.

We recently asked the FBI for a statement, and this is, as things stand, the closest thing we have to a definitive view: The FBI is confident that it has positively identified the nineteen hijackers responsible for the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Also, the 9/11 investigation was thoroughly reviewed by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States and the House and Senate Joint Inquiry. Neither of these reviews ever raised the issue of doubt about the identity of the nineteen hijackers.

2) The Pentagon plane maneuver could not have been performed by the pilot the government says was in control. Thus say numerous professional pilots. This is a discrepancy. The Pentagon plane is highly suspicous for many reason (which I don't see you acknowledging).

As we discussed last year, a Dutch TV program testing the 9-11 Conspiracy theories featured the host attempting to hit the Pentagon in a flight simulator. Despite not having anywhere near Hani Hanjour's experience level, the host was able to hit the target three times in as many attempts.

3) There has been no proof shown to the public that the men the government say did it actually got on the plane. Where are the airport videos, with time codes?

He might as well ask, where is the video from the plane itself. Surely there is a photo of Mohamed Atta being greeted by the flight attendants? The simple fact is that there were not security cameras filming people boarding their planes. As far as I know, these cameras do not exist even today.

4) This plot was known about by US intelligence before the fact, and that makes it even more suspicious. If it was indeed an "inside job" then Cheney/Rumsfeld et al. would probably not leave it up to suicide hijackers to determine the outcome.

Of course, no evidence is provided that "this plot was known about by US intelligence", and that's a might big "if".

5) There are other ways to hijack a plane, remotely using the plane's onboard flight control system.

According to Captain Sherlock, you mean?

The rest of it is just as weak. Check out this part:

There was a lot of planted evidence that seemed to implicate radical Muslims. FBI investigators complained about it. Planted evidence and hidden evidence are not very confidence building.

Yes, there is no link to show that FBI investigators complained about "planted" evidence.

The black boxes of the planes at the WTC were recovered by fireman Nicholas Demassi. The FBI claims they were never found. We have no data, to date, from those black boxes.

The claim that the black boxes were found comes from this article.

There has always been some skepticism about this assertion, particularly as two N.Y. City firefighters, Mike Bellone and Nicholas De Masi, claimed in 2004 that they had found three of the four boxes, and that Federal agents took them and told the two men not to mention having found them. (The FBI denies the whole story.)

Of course, Bellone is a phony fireman as we have discussed in the past.

Michael Bellone, the self-proclaimed "honorary New York firefighter," who spoke to 100-200 people at Concordia University about the events of 9-11 is a "fraud," according to New York Fire Marshal Conrad Tinney.

"It wasn't until two years later that we began getting complaints about him," Tinney said. "We have one honorary firefighter and that is a child from the Make-A-Wish Foundation. Aside from the child, it is normally the chiefs and those above who are made honorary firefighters and he (Bellone) isn't one. He's saying he was made an honorary firefighter by New York Fire Commissioner Nicholas Scoppetta. That's a fallacy."