A typically lousy piece of "
press release journalism" by Jennifer Harper.
There is also evidence of "advanced explosive nano-thermitic composite material found in the World Trade Center dust," Mr. Gage says. The group's petition at www. ae911truth.org is already on its way to members of Congress.
"Government officials will be notified that 'Misprision of Treason,' U.S. Code 18 (Sec. 2382), is a serious federal offense, which requires those with evidence of treason to act," Mr. Gage says. "The implications are enormous and may have profound impact on the forthcoming Khalid Shaikh Mohammed trial."
Well, it happens.
ReplyDeletePress release gets shortened, then goes straight in with little effort to research (though I've yet to hear the journalist's reason why).
I'd say much of the smaller news items are press releases of some sort, as it's an excellent way of getting publicity.
I had a very nice little business sending out press release for various companies many years ago, albeit motoring stuff.
OT, but it seems the OZ nutbars have finally said something about the recent press conferences:
http://www.truthnews.com.au/radio/wordpress/?p=968
Looks like no-one from the media turned up.
Isn't the Times owned by Sun Myung Moon? Either way, it's regarded as a right-wing tabloid at best.
ReplyDeleteIsn't the Times owned by Sun Myung Moon? Either way, it's regarded as a right-wing tabloid at best.
ReplyDeleteExactly. A paper owned by a nutty cult leader might be more sympathetic to other nutcase cults.
What an embarrassment. And the Washington Times wonders why they can't get people to take them seriously.
ReplyDeleteI don't believe this is "press release" journalism. Rather the bitch is a twoofer. Check out the last bit at the bottom.
ReplyDeleteStay tuned for more in this space.
Are her editors going to let their newspaper be a source of dishonest and stupid conspiracy theories?
They even printed Gage's stupid as "treason" threat. The bitch is definitely drinking the Kool-Aid.
The other side fears, above all, fundraisers, positive publicity, growing anti-establishment consensus, the first responders and the 9/11 family members, and any constructive cooperation between those elements and the truth movement.
ReplyDeleteOoooh I'm kept awake at night by the fear that the Washington Times is going to wake up the sheeple. Please, this hardly counts as positive publicity.
ReplyDeleteAs far as ultranationalist kookloonery, it doesn't get worse than the Times.
'The other side fears, above all, fundraisers, positive publicity, growing anti-establishment consensus, the first responders and the 9/11 family members, and any constructive cooperation between those elements and the truth movement.'
ReplyDeleteAs I've said before, let us know when you score on any of these counts. Come 2101, you'll still be seen as a bunch of fuck-ups and failures, who'll be at best a footnote to history - if that.
Enjoy oblivion, bitch.
The other side fears, above all, positive publicity
ReplyDeleteCorrect, in the same sense that I fear positive publicity for psychics, "work at home" scams, pyramid schemes, and other fraudulent and easily disprovable garbage.
Incidentally, the 'Washington Times' has contributed to investigative journalism, insofar as it blew the fact (shortly after the Nairobi and Dar e-Salaam bombings) that the NSA had a tap on OBL's sat-phone.
ReplyDeleteFunnily enough, that phone went dead shortly after that 'scoop'.
Nicely done.
Correct, in the same sense that I fear positive publicity for psychics, "work at home" scams, pyramid schemes, and other fraudulent and easily disprovable garbage.
ReplyDeleteI knew you were going to say that. :P
As I've said before, let us know when you score on any of these counts. Come 2101, you'll still be seen as a bunch of fuck-ups and failures, who'll be at best a footnote to history - if that.
ReplyDeleteEnjoy oblivion, bitch.
Awww! You've awarded truthers a footnote!
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ConsDemo said...
ReplyDeleteThe bitch is definitely drinking the Kool-Aid.
Maybe.
Remember, if one hasn't heard about any of this stuff, Gage's lies, misquotes, fantasy and delusion can sound convincing.
I'll suggest she look at some other sites, and try and speak to the people involved for another perspective.
I'm still open-minded about her being bat-shit crazy, though.
Just remember, the more national publicity Twoofers get, the more people realize how imbecilic they are.
ReplyDeletePretty soon a TV producer will see the time has come for a new TV game show, "Twoof or Consequences."
if one hasn't heard about any of this stuff, Gage's lies, misquotes, fantasy and delusion can sound convincing.
ReplyDeleteI'll suggest she look at some other sites, and try and speak to the people involved for another perspective.
She's a professional journalist. She's supposed to do that kind of research before she publishes the story. Reminds me of when some idiot college student thought Manbeef.com was a real website.
I've got $10 that says "more to come" never comes.
Triterope
ReplyDelete"She's a professional journalist. She's supposed to do that kind of research before she publishes the story."
Yes, yes, I agree, I think it's that I saw this as a column-type article, rather than a serious news-type one.
Maybe Oz journalism is worse than I thought, but we get shit-loads of idiot columnists doing this all the time.
They mouth off about something that's controversial, and hope it'll bring in a few outraged letters to the editor to increase their notoriety and exposure.
That's how I saw this, anyway.
I could also be completely wrong, and she's another fruitcake.
As for expecting journalists to be professional...there are many who are, and just as many (if not more) who don't give a shit, so long as;
1. they get their name on the bottom, and
2. they get noticed.
All of which adds up to more weight when it's time to talk salary.
But, as I said, I might be too cynical; I think the media over here (including the supposed 'respected' journals) well and truly sucks.
"Reminds me of when some idiot college student thought Manbeef.com was a real website."
ReplyDeleteReminds me of meatspin.com
Do not go to meatspin.com
Remember, if one hasn't heard about any of this stuff, Gage's lies, misquotes, fantasy and delusion can sound convincing.
ReplyDeleteMaybe. I truly hope you are right, but if she didn't think through the implications of Gage's accusations, and the vicious slander it entails, then she is dumber than a post.
On another note, still waiting for video of the Dick Gage & Grifter show. Well, they have a "press recording" a Gage's website. Isn't it funny in the age of instant video where twoofers can produce one on the spot, miraculously, there are no videos of Dick and DRG on 2/19. It's really shocking, I must say. Why can't they just show of video of the thousands in attendance demanding a new investigation! Could there be a COVERUP of the poor turnout??????
So now Roid Rage is approvingly quoting from a lackey propagandist rag of the racist imperialist war machine that kills brown-skinned people the world?
ReplyDeleteStrange bedfellows and all that...
This actually is real journalism - reporting real news, reporting things that are of importance. And 9/11 is of importance - to everyone in the world.
ReplyDeleteI think Murdoch owns the Times now actually. The good Reverend just started it and finances it.
ReplyDeleteThis is a great thing. Even these troofer lamebrains started to realize what a laughingstock they are. This publicity will whip up the loons, they will actually think the 'breakthrough' is happening ...
ReplyDeleteOnly to lead them to try another amazingly stupid undertaking, leading to epic failure and our derisive laughter.
On another note, still waiting for video of the Dick Gage & Grifter show. Well, they have a "press recording" a Gage's website. Isn't it funny in the age of instant video where twoofers can produce one on the spot, miraculously, there are no videos of Dick and DRG on 2/19.
ReplyDeleteEh?
Is this not of the event?
Misinformation from Sun Myung Moon's Washington Times?
ReplyDeleteNah, that would never happen.
%^)
Patrick from Cincinnati said...
ReplyDelete"Do not go to meatspin.com"
I did.
Do not go to meatspin.com
ConsDemo said...
ReplyDelete"I truly hope you are right, but if she didn't think through the implications of Gage's accusations, and the vicious slander it entails, then she is dumber than a post."
One of the truther techniques is to blast the listener with one 'fact' after another, allowing little time to think about anything, let alone question the comments.
Having said that, I have to admit that she does seem like a 9-11 fruiticake.
At the very least, it's poor journalism.
New Yorker said...
ReplyDeleteSo now Roid Rage is approvingly quoting from a lackey propagandist rag of the racist imperialist war machine that kills brown-skinned people the world?
Strange bedfellows and all that...
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
'Awww! You've awarded truthers a footnote!
ReplyDelete<3'
Sure. It will be in the 'Book of Complete and Utter Mongs', and your entry will be just after the flat-earthers and the creationists.
Misinformation from Sun Myung Moon's Washington Times?
ReplyDeleteNah, that would never happen.
%^)
As always, quote mining. Why don't you people try reading the things you source? Just once, try it. You'll notice first that Wikipedia's source is offline, and second, when checking the archive, that the full context of the story doesn't quite paint the picture desired by GuitarBill.
Sure. It will be in the 'Book of Complete and Utter Mongs', and your entry will be just after the flat-earthers and the creationists.
ReplyDeleteHmmm. What the fantastic fuck is a "Mong"?
Is it a member of an Asian ethnic group from the mountainous regions of Vietnam, Laos, Thailand and Burma?
Anyways, reserve a place for Dorothy, and her Global Climate Change conspiracy theory. And for all those folks who thought Saddam had anything to do with 9/11. And for those folks who thought Saddam still had WMD.
In fact, most of you ultra-nationalist apes still think this. Right Dorothy?
RR:What the fantastic fuck is a "Mong"?
ReplyDeleteLook in the mirror.
Look in the mirror.
ReplyDeleteZOMG! I'm a "mong"! What now!
Stop it! You're so hurting my feelings!
....
LOL
angrysoba, the agenda for the big twoof event mentioned a press conference followed by a luncheon. That video, although it is labeled the press conference, appears to be the luncheon. Yes, some people did attend, perhaps 40 or 50. Looks to be a lot of old hippy types, certainly not many of the 3K architects they invited. In any case, I don't see any questions being asked just Grifter, fatso Jones and Dick Gage blathering. So yes, there is video, although none of screaming crowds.
ReplyDeleteangrysoba, the agenda for the big twoof event mentioned a press conference followed by a luncheon. That video, although it is labeled the press conference, appears to be the luncheon. Yes, some people did attend, perhaps 40 or 50. Looks to be a lot of old hippy types, certainly not many of the 3K architects they invited. In any case, I don't see any questions being asked just Grifter, fatso Jones and Dick Gage blathering. So yes, there is video, although none of screaming crowds.
ReplyDeleteThis comment is dripping with fear, awe and despair. I have to laugh. They're not hiding in your closet and they're not going to bite you.
Sigh. This is the actual press conference, ConsDimWit.
http://vimeo.com/9614190
And this is Q&A session you pretend doesn't exist:
http://vimeo.com/9613696
So stop whining about the luncheon attendance, and stop spinning like you motherfuckers usually do.
And this is Q&A session you pretend doesn't exist
ReplyDeleteWhat's up with the voice of the first guy asking a question?
Answer to question two: "Give us cash!"
ReplyDeleteUh oh, Roidy's blowing a cork again. Okay, how many of those in attendence were journalists representing real news organizations? Twoofers asking softball questions of their heroes don't count.
ReplyDeleteAnswer to question two: "Give us cash!"
ReplyDeleteMore lies. Stop lying. What did he actually literally say? Why don't you transcribe ALL of it if you have the courage, you loathsome, deceitful son of a bitch.
Uh oh, Roidy's blowing a cork again. Okay, how many of those in attendence were journalists representing real news organizations? Twoofers asking softball questions of their heroes don't count.
ReplyDeleteYou're moving the goal posts. That doesn't count. My objection was with your cherry picking of the luncheon, not linking to the actual press conference, and denying there was a Q&A.
Were there any professional journalists? I didn't see any. I don't care either. (What else is new?) You are moving the goal posts.
Eventually, people forget the lies you tell, even though you may even be right about WTC 1, 2 and 7. But your constant lying and the constant lying of the state you worship have produced the books, the documentaries, the activists and the organizations you so hate.
May they torment your soul infinitely.
Eventually, people forget the lies you tell
ReplyDeleteI said I didn't see a video on Gage's site when I looked, perhaps there is one now. They didn't have many people there and there were no real journalists. I'm sorry to burst your little bubble, but those observations are quite valid and would hardly qualify as "lies." In any case, you say that about pretty much any utterance from anyone who doesn't share your world view so it isn't much an insult.
May they torment your soul infinitely.
You have a very inflated sense of the importance of the twoof movement. Its impact is hardly big enough to "torment" me. Although it is interesting you raise it, given your rancid diatribes, I suspect you do live with a lot of torment.
In any case, you say that about pretty much any utterance from anyone who doesn't share your world view so it isn't much an insult.
ReplyDeleteLike they say, you are entitled to your own opinions...
You have a very inflated sense of the importance of the twoof movement. Its impact is hardly big enough to "torment" me. Although it is interesting you raise it, given your rancid diatribes, I suspect you do live with a lot of torment.
I care about 9/11. I have an extreme disliking for people who stalk 9/11 family members and tell them to commit suicide, and the blogs that facilitate those people. Blogs that encourage anti-dissent, and cloak state worship in so-called "skepticism". You people have no objectivity, and are in many ways no better than some of the worst of the truth movement.
And yeah, I've noticed how most of you pretend to be stoic about it. It's a tellingly implausible defense for your presence and passionate support for this Brummagem, right-wing extremist and pro-nationalist establishment "blog"
The Raging Diaper scribbles, "...As always, quote mining. Why don't you people try reading the things you source? Just once, try it. You'll notice first that Wikipedia's source is offline, and second, when checking the archive, that the full context of the story doesn't quite paint the picture desired by GuitarBill."
ReplyDeleteWould someone fluent in retard be so kind as to translate the Raging Diaper's comment into English?
It's pretty clear, to me at least, that you don't understand the definition of "quote mining". After all, shit-for-brains, how can I be guilty of quote mining when I DIDN'T QUOTE ANYONE?
Tell us, Raging Diaper, are your parents siblings?
Would someone fluent in retard be so kind as to translate the Raging Diaper's comment into English?
ReplyDeleteOh, the chestnut thigh-splitters of the self-congratulatory debunker cult. (Cue Dorothy the ultra-nationalist kookloon with his own arsenal of dull repetitions)
It's pretty clear, to me at least, that you don't understand the definition of "quote mining". After all, shit-for-brains, how can I be guilty of quote mining when I DIDN'T QUOTE ANYONE?
Ha ha ha! What a pitiful excuse! Didn't you link to a quote? Why did you link then? So we wouldn't click on it? What was the damn point huh? You're a weasel and coward, and you're trying to put a spin on your defeat.
Tell us, Raging Diaper, are your parents siblings?
Do you even know what parents are, freakazoid? My guess is you're a horrendously ugly authority worshipping ghoul that miraculously manifested out of a toxic cesspit near Chernobyl. Na Zdarovje!
The Raging Diaper lies, "...Ha ha ha! What a pitiful excuse! Didn't you link to a quote? Why did you link then? So we wouldn't click on it? What was the damn point huh? You're a weasel and coward, and you're trying to put a spin on your defeat."
ReplyDeleteDo you ever stop lying, Glenn?
I formatted a hyperlink into my post. That's not a quote--you fucking moron.
Furthermore, my hyperlink does not point to a quote--you illiterate jackass. The hyperlink points to a section of the Wikipedia entry for Moon that deals specifically with his "Founding The Washington Times".
Any more lies and distortions for us, Glenn?
"It's a tellingly implausible defense for your presence and passionate support for this Brummagem, right-wing extremist and pro-nationalist establishment "blog""
ReplyDeleteDeal with it asshole - thanks to fukwads like you it isn't disappearing anytime soon. Keep up the fine work Mr. Angry Little Man.
"and are in many ways no better than some of the worst of the truth movement"
Thank you - that really is a compliment coming from you.
"I care about 9/11. I have an extreme disliking for people who stalk 9/11 family members and tell them to commit suicide, and the blogs that facilitate those people."
ReplyDeleteThe same blog that "facilitates" Brian Good, Walt, Boris and You?
You're just the good guy helping defend them from us mean people who like to call them names - right?
"Blogs that encourage anti-dissent, and cloak state worship in so-called "skepticism"."
If that means believing the US Government over:
Alex Jones
Stephen Jones
Kevin Barrett
Richard Gage
Dylan Avery
Jon Gold
Boris Epstein
Brian Good
Guilty as charged!
What can you say to a person who compares the posters here to Hitler and the Nazis?
Take your white knight bullshit some where else asshole.
"I formatted a hyperlink into my post. That's not a quote--you fucking moron."
ReplyDeleteAll I hear is BAAH! BAAH!
Could somebody please translate that from sheeple to English for me?
And to the rest: the angry reactions prove I struck a chord. =)
ReplyDelete(Oh and that shit about believing who over who: false dilemma, and it's "Steven" not "Stephen".)
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Shit-for-brains scribbles, "...Could somebody please translate that from sheeple to English for me?"
ReplyDeleteIt's simple, stupid.
You have the unmitigated gall to accuse others of resorting to logical fallacies, yet, you fail to grasp the meaning of quote mining, which is proof positive that you're a idiot.
For your information, jackass, in order to be guilty of quote mining, one must quote someone out of context in order to misrepresent their argument ("Pull it" is a perfect example of quote mining, by the way).
The fact is that not one word of my comment is a quotation. Moreover, anyone with an IQ in excess of room temperature (which apparently excludes you, Glenn) can tell you that a hyperlink is not a quote.
Does the obvious always escape you, Glenn?
I have an extreme disliking for people who stalk 9/11 family members and tell them to commit suicide, and the blogs that facilitate those people.
ReplyDeleteWhat the hell are you talking about?
Blogs that encourage anti-dissent, and cloak state worship in so-called "skepticism".
Give me a break. This blog debunks nonsense that you yourself know to be nonsense. The only sticking point I've heard you articulate thus far is about WTC7 and some (irrelevant) details in the NIST report.
And now you're calling people "sheeple?"
And for the record, the Washington Times is owned by the right-wing anti-communist Reverend Moon.
http://www.cjr.org/resources/index.php?c=newsworld
(Oh and that shit about believing who over who: false dilemma, and it's "Steven" not "Stephen".)
ReplyDeleteSteven, Stephen, Shithead... it's all the same
<3 = I hear that looks just like your scrotum but much larger.
Does the obvious always escape you, Glenn?
ReplyDeletePlease stop it, I'm getting all emotional.
<3 = I hear that looks just like your scrotum but much larger.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure you've seen a lotta hairy testicles up close.
<3
"...I'm sure you've seen a lotta hairy testicles up close."
ReplyDeleteYeah, but does that number rival the number of testicles you've had bouncing off your chin?
Yeah, but does that number rival the number of testicles you've had bouncing off your chin?
ReplyDeleteNah..however, there is something funny about this comment!
"Yeah"?! So Traffic Cop did indeed see a lot of hairy testicles up close according to you? Did you just confirm? How would you know this? Are you his little muse?
LOL!!
"...'Yeah'?! So Traffic Cop did indeed see a lot of hairy testicles up close according to you?"
ReplyDeleteNo, it does not.
I used "Yeah" in the dismissive sense of the term.
Do you honestly believe that I take the Raging Diaper's idiotic allegations seriously?
"I'm sure you've seen a lotta hairy testicles up close."
ReplyDeleteI doubt anyone has ever seen "hairy testicles" since their are no hair folicles on a testicle. Perhaps you mean scrotum you ignorant fuck.
I doubt anyone has ever seen "hairy testicles" since their are no hair folicles on a testicle. Perhaps you mean scrotum you ignorant fuck.
ReplyDeleteOh gawd. It's the testicle-truth chapter of the debunker cult. No more colloquialisms mate. If you're going to be that much of a "hairsplitter" (LOL) try spelling "follicle" correctly next time.
ScrewLooseChange, where you can discuss each others genitals in an atmosphere of mutual respect!
BAHAHAHA.
Funny - testicles never came up on this blog before RAGing hemorROID showed up.
ReplyDeleteWay to bring something to the table there little hitler.
"If you're going to be that much of a "hairsplitter" (LOL) try spelling "follicle" correctly next time."
ReplyDeleteWasn't Goebbels a stickler on spelling too?
Ha ha ha. Sock puppets. Too pathetic. This is me laughing at you hard.
ReplyDeleteHa ha ha. Troofers. Too pathetic. This is me laughing at you hard.
ReplyDeleteFunny - testicles never came up on this blog before
ReplyDeleteActually, they have. When Fat Alex did his stunt Obama/Charlie Sheen interview, which many a troofer believed was real, we remarked at how obsessed the troofers were with the size of Charlie Sheen's balls. Roid, do you have a view on Charlie Sheen's balls?
Isn't the Times owned by Sun Myung Moon?
ReplyDeleteI'd say much of the smaller news items are out the last bit at the bottom.
What an embarrassment.
Looks like no-one from a nutty cult leader might be more sympathetic.
I'm kept awake at night by the fear that the pimples on my face protrude farther outward than my shriveled little peckerwood. This is why I keep getting rejected by truther girls when I try to dazzle them with my nutty reverse-truther bullshit.
Snip. Snip.
This actually is real journalism
ReplyDeleteWrong.
reporting real news
Wrong.
reporting things that are of importance.
Wrong.
And 9/11 is of importance - to everyone in the world.
9/11 is not newsworthy in 2010.
I'm kept awake at night by the fear that the pimples on my face protrude farther outward than my shriveled little peckerwood. This is why I keep getting rejected by truther girls when I try to dazzle them with my nutty reverse-truther bullshit.
ReplyDeleteSnip. Snip.
Thanks for the impersonation, Roid.
I'll take it that you have no view on Charlie's balls. Reverse-truther bullshit? Sorry, you'll have to explain that one.
http://washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercooler/2010/feb/23/missile-defense-agency-logo-takes-cue-obama-campai/?feat=home_blogs
ReplyDeleteTHIS is the paper we're talking about.
'Is it a member of an Asian ethnic group from the mountainous regions of Vietnam, Laos, Thailand and Burma?'
ReplyDeleteEr, no, that's a Hmong. You wouldn't like them RR. They fought Commies, so they must be bad.
This is a 'mong':
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mong
http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Mongs
An alternative definition is 'Someone - of far below average intelligence - who thinks that 9/11 was an inside job, despite the fact that all the evidence points to al Qaeda being responsible'.
What's in a name, eh, sackcloth?
ReplyDeleteLOL.
You can be my sack cloth, bible boy.
Sheesh,when you have to provide a definiyion for your too clever by half and arch nerdy insult "mong",you've been exposed as a ridiculous twat.Gee,that's a really devastating diss Soldier Sad Sack!! Ouch,got me! You're the ex-soldier who gets laid all the time,right Bozo? Pathetic sot.
ReplyDelete'You can be my sack cloth, bible boy.'
ReplyDeleteTranslation from cretin to English required.
'Sheesh,when you have to provide a definiyion for your too clever by half and arch nerdy insult "mong",you've been exposed as a ridiculous twat.'
It's quite a common British insult, Arseholie/Walt. You should have picked that up during your stay in 'England' for - how long was it again - three years?
A typically lousy piece of "press release journalism" by Jennifer Harper.
ReplyDeleteRelevant YouTube video. Skip to :17.
Oh, and guess what else... she admits it's press release journalism:
ReplyDeleteI don't make these claims, the group in question does. A difference. These words are from the group.
I didn't hang around with morons over there.The place is crawling with them,but they just aren't my style.I guess I just didn't socialize with enough brainwashed soldiers.
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