I've always had a problem with the claimed numbers of Jews that allegedly died there. I keep hearing "6 million" or "1.5 million." That alone is a HUGE discrepency. Some say the number was as low as 280,000.
Suspecting what the Israeli/Palistine conflict is really about, the strong evidence Israel was involved with 9/11, and seeing how 9/11 was faked in general, it makes me wonder how much of the Holocaust was true or not.
I didn't know that about him. I knew he was a dolt, although you know how it is; that's a given for 99.9% of the Troofers. But I didn't see this back in 2006.
Ridiculous to call him a denier.
ReplyDeleteHet simply states hearing multiple figures and notices a discrepancy, which there is between those numbers unless you can't count.
You are simple trying to put some sort of stamp on him, which is a lame tactic.
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ReplyDelete" ...it makes me wonder how much of the Holocaust was true or not."
ReplyDeleteHe's a Holocaust denier.
An anti-senite.
Among the vilest of the vile.
Your insistence on focusing on the dregs of the 9/11 Truth scene is so transparent. Didn't you get your ass handed to you in a debate with Jon Gold?
ReplyDeleteDear Martijn,
ReplyDeleteYou seemed to have overlooked "it makes me wonder how much of the Holocaust was true or not."
Is it rediculous to call him an Holocaust denier? Au contraire, methinks.
Don't write "Au contraire, methinks."
ReplyDeleteEver. Again.
Anonymous wrote, "...rediculous."
ReplyDeleteWow! We have a spelling bee champ, folks.
Glenn Maxey of ae911truth prevaricates, "...Your insistence on focusing on the dregs of the 9/11 Truth scene is so transparent."
ReplyDeleteYeah, almost as transparent as your claims of "sanity" and "reason", Glenn.
After all, in the end, even Tony Szamboti is a greasy, fat, hirsute nut-bar.
Fine. I spelled "ridiculous" incorrectly. Sorry about that.
ReplyDeleteBut I don't think it changes the jist of my post. What is your point?
P.S.
Are you aware that Anonymous is not an id of a person? I mean, that Anonymous posts need not to be from the same person.
Right, Glenn.
ReplyDeleteYou've always tried to differentiate your ass from the remainder of the "9/11 truth movement".
So what's new?
He simply states hearing multiple figures and notices a discrepancy
ReplyDelete...which of course is the same stupid logic that brings us his asstarded smoking guns list, and all of 9-11 Truth for that matter.
"Mom, this is Mark Bingham"? DURR DISCREPANCY!
Mineta testimony? DURR DISCREPANCY!
BBC said WTC7 had collapsed when it was about to collapse? DURR DISCREPANCY!
Silverstein said "pull it"? DURR DISCREPANCY!
Just because people report different details of the same event doesn't prove it didn't happen, asshole.
*drops down from rafters*
ReplyDeleteAnonymous say: "Your insistance on focusing on the dregs of the troof movement is so transparent."
Oh, like how troofers insist on focusing on every action Troy from West Virgina make?
Confucious say: "Only Retard blind to own hypocracy."
*leaps into shadows*
Killtown has been banned just about everywhere. There are some bad actors in the movement like Barrett, and CIT and Killtown, and it's a mistake to take them as representative.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, then WHO IS considered as "representative" by the truth movement? That's not exactly clear to anyone.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous wrote, "...Killtown has been banned just about everywhere. There are some bad actors in the movement like Barrett, and CIT and Killtown, and it's a mistake to take them as representative."
ReplyDeleteReally?
No kidding?
My experience teaches me that the average "9/11 truther" is so full of shit that he could stunt double as a dairy barn.
%^)
I think trooferism is like a gateway drug that sometimes leads to Holocaust denial.
ReplyDeleteI think it's a systemic issue with their logical faculties. He doesn't address the absolute mountains of evidence that the holocaust DID happen, and in the "official" fashion. He focuses on the anomalies, and like 9/11 Truth the "anomalies" usually don't pan out as anomalies but rather turn out to be fabrications of ambiguous intent.
ReplyDeleteFor example, the "no prussian blue in the bricks" incident.
And I don't indict all Truthers because a handful of them are Holocaust deniers. I indict them because they are Truthers, which aren't as morally reprehensible but are just as intellectually reprehensible.
Exactly right. It's the same thought process. They want to ignore the compendium of physical evidence and focus all attention on some half-imagined "anomaly."
ReplyDeleteKilltown then says in that post:
ReplyDelete"I'm not denying the Holocaust like some stupid nazi punk skinhead would, but just now question what was true and what was fiction."
Why'd ya leave that part out Pat? Quote mine much?
So he's not denying it, he's questioning it. Thanks for that.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, how is him saying he "now question what was true and what was fiction" NOT implying that he's on the verge of declaring the WHOLE THING a hoax of some kind, like you guys do about every single vocal discrpency you qoute mine?
ReplyDeleteDoes Dylan Avery leading a group chanting "Pull it! Pull it!" not ring a bell to you?
I have some pots and kettles you can call black, if you'd like...
Oh, so if he said:
ReplyDeleteI'm not denying we landed on the moon like some Nazi skinhead punk would, just I now question what was real and what was fiction....THAT wouldn't earn some weird looks?
Yeah, Pat, how dare you leave out more crazy talk that only proves your point.
Way to prove your case, Anonymous. How does it feel to have "come to the rescue" of a no-planer?
Glenn Maxey prevaricates, "'...I'm not denying the Holocaust like some stupid nazi punk skinhead would, but just now question what was true and what was fiction.'
ReplyDelete"Why'd ya leave that part out Pat? Quote mine much?"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Let's see now, how many times have I heard that crap from every stealth neo-Nazi I've encountered on the 'net?
If I had a nickel for every time I've heard that chickenshit rationalization I'd have more money that Warren Buffett.
Give it up, Glenn.
Oops. The above was me.
ReplyDeleteUh, not the asian stuff. The Anonymous.
ReplyDelete"But I don't think it changes the jist of my post. What is your point?"
ReplyDeleteIt's spelled "gist".
Christ! There's a combination you don't see everyday. A Truther who denies the Holocaust.
ReplyDeleteAnd he does it in good old fashioned, "I don't deny it in an anti-semitic/Nazi way, oh no, not me. I'm just asking questions and will only accept one answer."
This is a pattern which repeats itself over and over and over again.
I predict he'll be anti-vaccine before long if he isn't already.
I'll predict you'll have died of side-effects before you ever see that happening. :^D
ReplyDeleteYeah, Martijn/Anonymous, I too have always had a problem with the numbers of Jews that died.
ReplyDeleteIt's a number I find hard to accept. It's tragic enough when such brutality happens to one person, let alone millions.
Even after all these years, I still cannot fathom the size and nature of the crime.
I mean, there were children in the concentration camps. Children.
I have also always had a problem with how they died, who killed them, and why cunts like you always use 'allegedly' when talking of the Holocaust deaths.
Those people existed, you piece of shit. They were not phantoms, make believe or the product of inflated arithmetic.
Fortunately, you are hardly in charge of your own mind, let alone of anything important in our society, and that means future generations will indeed learn what happened, who did it, and how many died, and 'allegedly' will never be seen.
As they will also learn that the truthers who crawled out from under the rocks after 9/11 were all paranoid wingnuts whose numbers also included an unhealthy dose of Nazi's, Anti-Semites, and Holocaust deniers.
The one great thing about all this, is that you wannabe thugs are reduced to posting incoherent bile that we can laugh at.
Hoe does it feel, loser?
How does it feel, loser?
ReplyDeleteYou know, it felt good to post that again.
Oh my god. How human perception changes attitude.
ReplyDeleteI've have posted under a variety of usernames here. Since the recent comment changes I, being lazy, snd because the occasional beating up of a delusinal fringe individual is just not worth more effort, opted for 'Anonymous' while posting my comments.
I believe my comments where perfectly reasonable. KT's wording indicates pretty much that he is on the verge of Holocaust denial. Martijn claimed that that position was ridiculous. Given KT's wording that is a fragile position to hold and his wording bordering on the absurd.
And then, I'm jumped on by me making spelling mistakes. Where everyone with an IQ over 5 is perfectly able to get the meaning of them. Pathetic. Natural language does of ~60% redunancy, after all. That is consistent with you being able to correct my spelling errors.
I can not escape the impression that I'm being jumped on because an individual from the Truther type does post here regularly as Anonymous.
Look I'm a non-native speaker. I do have difficulty in spelling this spellingwise pathetic language of yours. (Lead, lead, receive, decieve,. You *really* have to explain that when you meet the Creator). Non-native speaker you ask? Well, I'll explain. You do know there are other countries outside of the Fine US of Fine A? No? Well, there are! And the people living there do tend to speak other languages than your BicMac and WallMart version of English. Country you ask? Yes country. You know a thing where a group of people live within borders under common rules of law and under some kind of government. Not clear enough? Ya know, the things that are full of people that don't live by the rules of your Sacred and Wholy Way Of Life. Still haven't got it? Well, ya know the kind of things you throw bombs at. Got it now? Fine.
Anonymous, I understand your frustration. Don't take it personal. Don't take anything said here personal. I always roll my eyes when somebody attacks someone for spelling or other semantic errors. But then, even I have done that once or twice. Its childish. Don't let it get to you.
ReplyDeleteThe "Anonymous" and "BillClintonman" colloquy will go down in history as the true representation of the Debunker Cult in all it's ignominy and sheer lunatic glory.How utterly touching is BillboClintonman's poignant reaching out to an obvious bullshit story from another addled "debunker".You couldn't even make up shit this stupid! Bilbo,get your iron butt of that stool and get some fresh air,you're dizzy!! We feel your pain!!!
ReplyDeleteHe said,
ReplyDelete"it makes me wonder how much of the Holocaust was true or not."
not,
"it makes me wonder if the Holocaust was true or not."
He even specifically says he's not a holocaust denier in the very next paragraph, the one Pat conveniently left off his blogpost,
"I'm not denying the Holocaust like some stupid nazi punk skinhead would, but just now question what was true and what was fiction."
Let me remind all of you about the fictional tales of soap made from body fat and lampshades made out of skin.
Even at the end of his post Killtown asks if there's any films debunking the David Cole documentary that reveals compelling evidence and logic that the holocaust numbers were greatly inflated,
"What I want to know is if there is a documentary that tries to debunk [The Truth Behind the Gates of Auschwitz] or similar "holocaust revisionist" documentary? I'd like to see the other side other than the MSM holocaust information we've all seen."
Nothing I see comes across like he's doubting the holocaust ever happened, just questioning the numbers which overwhelming evidence suggests they were greatly exaggerated.
Remember,
"The first casualty of war is truth."
"Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteHe said,
"it makes me wonder how much of the Holocaust was true or not."
not,
"it makes me wonder if the Holocaust was true or not.""
A distinction without a difference.
It's still Holocaust denial, and at tbottom anti-semitic.
The first casualty of truthism is sanity.
ReplyDeleteArsehoolie the cyber cornhole scribbles, "...How utterly touching is BillboClintonman's poignant reaching out to an obvious bullshit story from another addled 'debunker'."
ReplyDeleteWhat's eatin' you, Arsehoolie? Did you get sand in your vagina?
"it makes me wonder how much of the Holocaust was true or not."
ReplyDeleteWell, it shouldn't.
The Holocaust death toll is very vague and very disputed. Guess what? The same is true of every other atrocity in human history. The Trail of Tears, the Soviet gulag, the Armenian genocide, Rwanda, Darfur, it's all the same story. This can be for mundane reasons, such as poor record-keeping or official definitions of who counts as a victim. And of course, politics plays a role.
The point is, "I keep hearing 6 million or 1.5 million" is not proof or disproof of anything. That Killtown thinks it is -- and that you would defend him for it -- betrays either anti-Semitism, or ignorance. Take your pick.
Your insistence on focusing on the dregs of the 9/11 Truth scene is so transparent.
ReplyDeleteAlong with fellow anti-semite and Holocaust denier, Chrissy Bollyn, Killtown was one of the primary researchers for the Loose Change movies.
He's hardly one of the "dregs" of the movement.
Didn't you get your ass handed to you in a debate with Jon Gold?
Negative.
Hey GuitarShrill,try that joke on your daughters.Or better yet,your wife.Even better,on all those chicks you're bird dogging as you serenade the saps with your "Wedding Muzak on Expensive,Collectible Guitar in G-flat! As far as "Anonymous" and his defense of Killtown:that's just plain stupid.Funny how the idiot "Trite 'n Dopey" sounds like a Holocaust revisionist himself.The evidence for the numbers claimed by historians and Jews is overwhelming and demonstrable.Somebody needs to hit the books,because the information and proof is out there.It's an old story by this time.
ReplyDeleteThe evidence for the numbers claimed by historians and Jews is overwhelming and demonstrable.
ReplyDeleteSo you disagree with Killtown, then? That's nice.
Arsehoolie the cyber muffin scribbles, "...Hey GuitarShrill,try that joke on your daughters.Or better yet,your wife.Even better,on all those chicks you're bird dogging as you serenade the saps with your "Wedding Muzak on Expensive,Collectible Guitar in G-flat!"
ReplyDeleteNo doubt, you're amazing, Arsehoolie. After all, how do you manage to type with both your hands and lips wrapped around Dylan Avery's pecker?
You're the one in a cult,knucklehead,not me.Just because you lunatics try to equate a world wide movement with a few crackpots glomming onto a popular and public phenomenon doesn't mean it has any basis in reality.In my own experience with 9/11 activism, anyone even trying to talk shit about "Jews" as opposed to "Israel" or "US foreign policy in the Middle East" has been condemned and loudly rebuked.It really hasn't come up in the NYC area much,at any rate.Hey GuitarShrill,you're the smart one.How do you spell "red herring",you goofy fuck?
ReplyDeleteOf course you reveal yourself as the simple blowhard and cheesy rapper you are when you target Dylan Avery,who really is nothing more than a guy who put together a compilation video of various 9/11 stuff.The funny thing is that,even though he's relative lightweight he actually kicks debunker ass pretty easily.You saps can't even defeat the youthful "B Team".Ha!
ReplyDeleteArsehoolie the gullible scribbles, "...You're the one in a cult,knucklehead,not me."
ReplyDeleteReally? No kidding?
So tell us, idiot, when will you bring your alleged "evidence" to a court of law?
"...Just because you lunatics try to equate a world wide movement with a few crackpots glomming onto a popular and public phenomenon doesn't mean it has any basis in reality."
The "truther" polls indicate that the "9/11 truth movement" (MIHOP) makes up less than 4% of the population.
Do you consider 4% "critical mass"? LOL!
"...Hey GuitarShrill,you're the smart one.How do you spell 'red herring',you goofy fuck?"
How does GuitarBill spell "red herring"?
Answer: 9-1-1 T-r-u-t-h.
The moron whose faith in the 9/11 Commission Report would shame Aqualung is calling people gullible? There's nothing quite like the nutty Debunker Cult! You better check in with the loony fuck,Paddy,who runs this site.He's on record as saying that between a quarter and an eighth of his stash was pinched by some hillbilly meth baseball freak from West Virginia's Registered Offenders List.That's millions,Montana Slim.
ReplyDeleteArsehoolie the gullible scribbles, "...The moron whose faith in the 9/11 Commission Report would shame Aqualung is calling people gullible?"
ReplyDeleteLyrics from "Aqualung":
"Snot running down his nose;
"Greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes."
That sounds like an excellent description of you, Arsehoolie.
"...You better check in with the loony fuck,Paddy,who runs this site.He's on record as saying that between a quarter and an eighth of his stash was pinched by some hillbilly meth baseball freak from West Virginia's Registered Offenders List.That's millions,Montana Slim."
Would someone fluent in retard please take a moment to translate that rambling bullshit to English?
underneath every troofer is a jew hating bastard waiting to come out
ReplyDeletethat is a given
Would someone fluent in retard please take a moment to translate that rambling bullshit to English?
ReplyDeleteHere's my translation.
Heh. Triterope, that makes us all guilty of "feeding" Arhoolie, then. whoops!
ReplyDeletebacci40, so what? Beneath every "debunker" hides an Arab-hater.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of truthers & Holocaust deniers... http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.c5206eb4f8d586e9c3d38dbecf160d40.3c1&show_article=1
ReplyDeleteAlmost like a judo move there FatYuppieBoy!!! Fact is,you're the dead duck.Tip your King and move onto patching up your marriage.
ReplyDeleteHeh. Triterope, that makes us all guilty of "feeding" Arhoolie, then. whoops!
ReplyDeleteNo worries. I wasn't accusing anyone of feeding trolls -- it goes with the territory around here -- but rather pointing out a motivation for Assholie's incomprehensible gibberish.
Arsehoolie the straw man argument spewing cunt scribbles, "...Almost like a judo move there FatYuppieBoy!!! Fact is,you're the dead duck.Tip your King and move onto patching up your marriage."
ReplyDeleteDon't break your arm patting yourself on the back, con artist. So when will you address Mineta's fatally flawed time line, shit-for-brains?
Gassed any innocent Jews lately, Arsehoolie?
This from the boob who insists that Cheney and an aide were talking about #93 )"...20 miles out,then ten milesm out).You couldn't even shovel shit in Louisiana,DogBoy!
ReplyDeleteArsehoolie the cyber illiterate scribbles, "...This from the boob who insists that Cheney and an aide were talking about #93 )"...20 miles out,then ten milesm out).You couldn't even shovel shit in Louisiana,DogBoy!"
ReplyDeleteIncoming. Schlemiel at 12 o'clock high.
Coming from shlamazel,that's kooky.Now go repair your marriage,you ain't fooling no one DogHouseBoy
ReplyDeleteMaking shit up again, Arsehoolie the cyber bore?
ReplyDeleteThe 911 "truth" Movement, aka., Fair Play For al Qaeda Committee (Meets Here 1-4 PM).
9/11 was an inside job.
ReplyDeleteMotive: The intelligence agencies want legal bassis to spy on Americans and violate their rights.
Purpose: To facilitate an organized criminal network.
People behind it: domestic and foreign intelligence personnel, Bush, world elitists, organized crime from abroad.
People in powerful positions within the inetelligence agencies fostered the 9/11 attacks.
ReplyDeleteThey influenced a religious zealot to attack America.
They used sophisticated intelligence resources and technlogoy to do this, to include the "voice of god" technology which is making someone hear voices in their head.
That's why we can't find Bin Laden. The truth is the intels want to protect their organized criminal network.
Motive: The intelligence agencies want legal bassis to spy on Americans and violate their rights.
ReplyDeletePurpose: To facilitate an organized criminal network.
People behind it: domestic and foreign intelligence personnel, Bush, world elitists, organized crime from abroad.
No, it was Colonel Mustard in the library with the candlestick.
'Your insistence on focusing on the dregs of the 9/11 Truth scene is so transparent.'
ReplyDeleteDoes that include the scumbag who said that the ADL should be sent to the gas-chambers (that was you, by the way)?
The guy has "Wilson" branded into his forehead and he's still out there talking smack!! Give the guy 2 points for audacity!! You've been housed Bozo.Get some rest,smoke a J-bar,call up Dr.Ruth for advice and for God's sake,please leave the Israel thing and #93 alone,it's scary watching you tumble onto your face,you hapless,feckless,friendless jackoff.You couldn't carry Dr.Judy's jockstrap!!
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