Firedoglake Publishes Troofer Diary

It's the usual mixture of idiocy and horse manure:

Correcting our flawed judgment of the 9/11 events nine years later is not an easy task; raising doubt about the official story challenges assumptions and beliefs that have taken hold in our innermost core. But once we see with new eyes, constructing a new peaceful world becomes possible. Professor David Ray Griffin has made it less hard to see through the lies and propaganda by painstakingly excavating all the facts that are recoverable about 9/11, and then juxtaposing them with details of the official story in his article, "Did 9/11 Justify the War in Afghanistan?" Professor Griffin calls the war in Afghanistan "an abomination," and unjustifiable.

Grifter himself is an abomination, and his claims are unjustifiable. Remember, his article was the one where he repeated the fatuous and fat-headed argument that the flight manifests didn't include the hijackers. As I have pointed out in the past, this is clearly one of the strangest claims the Troofers could make. What do they think happened? Something like this:

Airline company secretary: Sir, we've printed out the flight manifests as you requested, but there's one problem. Apparently none of the hijackers were on board the planes.

Airline company executive: Release them anyway. Nobody will notice other than a few conspiracy theorists.

I mean, seriously. It's one of those "sacred list" arguments; the New World Order was happy to kill 3,000 people on 9-11 but when it came time to add hijackers names to the flight manifests, they suddenly balked?

It will be interesting to see if Jane Hamsher's site becomes Troofer Central after this. The comments are generally supportive of the conspiracy theorizing.

Buzzflash Editor Buys Flight 93 Shoot Down

We've given credit to the major lefty blogs for (mostly) not engaging in the 9-11 kookery, but Buzzflash Editor Mark Karlin bites on the Flight 93 shootdown theory:

But the Tribune editorial reminded us that the likelihood that Flight 93 was shot down, given the first reports and the account of Cheney ordering it shot down, is quite high. Any U.S. government, whether Democratic or Republican, would probably not want to admit that it was responsible for blowing a commercial airliner with U.S. citizens aboard out of the sky.

So a heroic narrative was, it appears, crafted to cover up the reality of what happened. At the time, we speculated that Flight 93 may have been headed for the infamous Three-Mile Island nuclear plant, just a short air distance away from where it went down. Or it may have indeed been flying back with terrorist plans to crash the plane into Congress or the White House.

We'll never know.

But on a scale of 1 to 10, BuzzFlash would put it at an 8 likelihood that Flight 93 was indeed downed by an American missile.

As I have said in the past, this is probably really the most commonly held conspiracy theory on 9-11. But that doesn't make it any less stupid. Remember that the Lockerbie bombing shows us what happens to a plane when it is blown out of the sky; the wreckage of Flight 93 looks nothing like this:



But common or not, Buzzflash takes it into real kook territory with "So a heroic narrative was, it appears, crafted to cover up the reality of what happened." That's every bit as offensive as Korey Rowe's comments about "Let's Roll". Screw you, Buzzflash!

Mark Karlin gets the old Nutbar-O-Meter Treatment:

Democracy For America Allowing Troofer Posts?

The old "Dean for America" group eventually became "Democracy for America", but the Dean family is still running the show, with Howard's brother in the chair. Apparently despite Howard's famed speculation about how Bush knew about 9-11 because he was warned by the Saudis, DFA has (much like Kos and many of the larger liberal blogs) distanced themselves from the conspiracy nutbars. But perhaps that is changing?

Where are all the video tapes taken by the FBI from all the local business and buildings after the plane (?) crashed into the Pentagon on 9-11?

The Citgo video was released and didn't show much of anything. Again, the kooks have this weird notion that the building they never tire of telling us was the "most secure" in the world, also had dozens of cameras from neighboring buildings aimed right at it.

It's disturbing that there seem to be cracks developing in the defense the Left has erected against these wacky conspiracy theories.

MyDD Posts 9-11 Fruitcake Diary

I suppose the rules aren't as stringent over there as they are over at Kos. It's Joel Hirschorn, who's a newly minted nutbar, having only recently joined Richard Gage's crew.

The 9/11 truth movement is stronger than ever, though it is generally derided by politicians and ignored by the mainstream media. It is fueled by people passionate about alternative explanations to the official 9/11 story. Understandable, considering that the co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission admitted: "We were set up to fail."

Typical retarded Troofer; apparently he can't be bothered to actually read the book by Kean and Hamilton, in which they say that despite being set up to fail, they actually succeeded. I can understand while Joel doesn't crack the book, but does he really think nobody else will?

In 2006 Time magazine said: "The population of [the 9/11 truth movement] is larger than you might think. A Scripps-Howard poll of 1,010 adults last month found that 36% of Americans consider it `very likely' or `somewhat likely' that government officials either allowed the attacks to be carried out or carried out the attacks themselves. Thirty-six percent adds up to a lot of people. This is not a fringe phenomenon. It is a mainstream political reality."

No, it's a fringe phenomenon, as anybody who watches these idiots recognizes pretty quickly. If it were really something like 36% they'd get tens of thousands to their rallies. As we discussed only a couple weeks ago, the Zogby poll commissioned by 911Truth.org revealed that only 4.6% of the population is MIHOP. That number seems about right. Joel mentions that poll, but like all the kooks, fails to mention that particular poll result.

This year Zogby found that 31 perecent of likely voters do not buy the official 9/11 story [72 percent for ages 18 to 24 and nearly 60 percent for Hispanics and singles]; 51 percent still await a congressional investigation of Bush's and Cheney's actions before, during and after the 9/11 attacks [88 percent for ages 18 to 24 and 77 percent for Hispanics and singles]; and 67% fault the 9/11 Commission for not investigating the anomalous and still unexplained collapse of World Trade Center building 7.

It's disappointing to see the 9-11 fruitcakes not getting the scorn they deserve from a major liberal blog like MyDD.