Friday, June 08, 2012

Free Scootle!

I've been rather critical of the folks over at the rebunking 9-11 blog, but it appears that Scootle Royale is actually beginning to realize that perhaps some elements of 9-11 Trutherism are counterproductive.  He wrote a longish post over there warning his fellow Truthers that perhaps it was time to say ix-nay on the ermite-thay.

Unfortunately, if you surf over there, you won't find it.  Why?  Well, there are two possible explanations.  One is that he wasn't quite done with it (which appears true).  The other is that he's been gagged (which appears more likely).

On May 3 and May 15, Scootle published a post entitled "Red Chips or Blue Pills; A Warning to AE911 Truth."  In the post, he noted the results of the Millette report, which proved pretty conclusively that the red and grey chips claimed by the idiot Harritt and Jones to be nanothermite, were not.  Instead they are quite likely a form of primer paint, although Millette was unable to definitively establish that.

Each time, the post had only partially finished sections, and thus seemed like a draft, and each time, the post was fairly quickly "pulled".  I was advised of this post by several commenters and by an emailer who shall remain anonymous.  It was decided to allow Scootle some additional time to finish off the post.  But at this point it's been five weeks since the first version was posted over there, and three weeks since the second one, and it wasn't that incomplete.

What's more, since then 9-11 Rebunkers have prominently promoted Box Boy Gage's latest opus, 9-11 Explosive Evidence: Experts Speak Out, which relies heavily on the nanothermite claim, even though Scootle's May 15 version of his post concluded with this warning:

Red-gray chips could, if debunked, discredit Expert's [sic] Speak Out, and therefore AE911Truth and 9/11 Truth as a whole.
You can read Scootle's post as it appeared May 15 here (click on the image to enlarge it to viewable size).  When will his post return on 9-11 Rebunking?

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Thursday, March 01, 2012

Red-Gray Chips Tested and Determined Not to Be Thermite

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.  Here's the report; there is active discussion going on at JREF. Main point:

The red/gray chips found in the WTC dust at four sites in New York City are consistent with a carbon steel coated with an epoxy resin that contains primarily iron oxide and kaolin clay pigments.

There is no evidence of individual elemental aluminum particles of any size in the red/gray chips, therefore the red layer of the red/gray chips is not thermite or nano-thermite.
 (Bolding added for emphasis).  Kudos to Chris Mohr for pursuing this matter and to all the folks who contributed funds to the effort.  So far no response from the supermagiconanothermite team of Jones, Ryan or Harritt.


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Thursday, June 23, 2011

Truther Legal Strategery

I know picking on the silly things that Truthers say on their forums and blogs isn't really fair, but this one was just too funny, and sort of of ties into the recent April Gallop legal debacle. On 911 Flogger Kevin Ryan posts another one of his "A Beautiful Mind: the Home Game" essays in which he posts a bunch of snippets on nanothermite research and then concludes that this magical substance must have blown up the World Trade Centers. That isn't really the funny part though, it really gets amusing, as usual, in the comments, where one genius decides that they should file a lawsuit against the Port Authority.


One “back door” means of investigating with subpoena powers, the origins of the nano-thermitic incendiary material discovered in the World Trade Center (WTC) dust [1], would be a class action civil damages lawsuit comprised of willing 9/11 victim family members and survivors, based on the apparently unlawful presence of these hazardous nano-thermitic incendiaries within the WTC towers immediately prior to September 11, 2001. Such a complaint could proceed under the position of attributing culpable negligence to the Port Authority of NY/NJ and construction contractors assigned by them, for being the likely reason these materials became present within the buildings. Such a civil complaint could reasonably allege, that these nano-thermitic incendiaries: 1). contributed to the fires already present in both buildings and or; 2). somehow contributed to the possibly related and well documented accelerated corrosion [2] (and thus weakening) of WTC structural steel noted by official studies and contributed to the building collapses and loss of life that ensued.


Of course their current argument is that nanothermite was used as an explosive, not an incendiary, but nevermind that ubiquitous inconsistency in the name of the truth, another commenter gives his two hilarious cents:


Great idea! Civil court...hazardous nano-thermitic material

Part of the beauty of this idea: It assumes the presence of nano-thermitic material in the buildings. It would be difficult for the defendents [sic] to prove it was not present.


Uhh, yeah, because judges normally just let you "assume" your key evidence! I am reminded of the old economist joke, "Assume a can opener".

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Saturday, February 27, 2010

Agreeing with Our Rebunkers

Over at the inaptly named 9-11 Debunkers blog, we get slapped down a bit for laughing at Steven Jones' speculation that the Haiti quake was created by the New World Order.

Haiti? A false flag? What kind of crazy person would think that?! A drill goes live and a bunch of mass murdering war criminals and celebrity whores beg the public to donate money to support the militarization of an oil rich island. Nothing suspicious there! I haven't seen such a sickening display of vampiric exploitation since Michael Jackson's funeral. And if they could blow up skyscrapers with nanotechnology back in 2001, the idea of them being able to create earthquakes in 2010 isn't much of a stretch. Hell, there's a publicly available US Air Force document that seriously discusses the prospect of teleportation! This is what's out in the open. Imagine the black projects going on in the ultra secret underground laboratories!


Now that's a bunch of crazy talk of course. I assume that the teleportation document is thoroughly speculative, and "Beam me up, Scotty," will not be practical at any point in the near future. Note as well that the "false flag" bit is rather amusing; the false flag for the Haiti earthquake is, well, Mother Nature.

But I do have to agree with them on this point:
...if they could blow up skyscrapers with nanotechnology back in 2001, the idea of them being able to create earthquakes in 2010 isn't much of a stretch.

Yep, both of those seem equally practical. BTW, note that like most "Truth" sites, they don't care for free speech:
I spend far too much time spelling out for people what I have already spelled out hundreds of times. Comments are now closed.

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Saturday, November 14, 2009

You Have Got To Be Kidding Me!

The Troofers are having a big confab in Sydney, Australia this weekend, with Richard Gage and Steven Jones as the draws. The conference is dubbed "The Hard Evidence" tour (there are a couple more stops down under before it ends), and from the title, you might expect that Jones would be focusing on supernanothermatite, the material he claims to have found in the WTC dust, with perhaps a short digression into iron microspheres.

You would be wrong. In fact, according to one attendee:

Steven Jones is speaking right now. (He's going into great detail about the put options, btw)


Seriously. What's next, Jonesy? Eight of the hijackers are still alive according to the BBC?

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Tuesday, November 10, 2009

Supermagico-Nano-Thermitate

Box Boy is Australia this weekend and still selling the same line of bull. But I had to laugh at his latest interview with Truth News Australia, because as usual, the Troofers want to have it both ways. Starting about 17:00 in, Gage gets off onto thermite/thermate, which he explains is a high-tech incendiary. Now we can quibble about how high-tech it is when you can buy it on ebay, but note that about 17:50 he specifies that thermite "doesn't have the large 'bang' of C4 or RDX, high energy explosives."

But at about 29:50, Gage is back onto the "explosions described by over 100 first responders." It's like the whole bit about how thermite doesn't have the large bang is completely forgotten. And it probably is, for about 90% of the kooks.

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