And Farther Down the Rabbit Hole....

Phil Jayhan (who financed the first Loose Change movie) dares to think the unthinkable:

We have more then a few things we have discovered about Mr. William Rodriguez, alleged last man out of the world trade center on 9/11 which are extremely suspicious, but none as suspicious as when one draws a simple gracious time-line of William Rodriguez's very own tale of the events and compares it to probability verses possibility verses impossibility. . Unfortunately, no matter how one does the equation of William Rodriguez's tale of events of September the 11th, 2001, last man out, there is no available possibility that his story is true. There is literally no other possibility then that his tale of events is a staggering national hoax and at the crux of an international conspiracy.

Now I have been pretty critical of Willie's changing story over the years, and Mark Roberts compiled an excellent analysis of the evolution. So you might think that I'd applaud Jayhan for this piece. But he does not attack W-Rod from a standpoint of common sense; rather he does the typical paranoid nutbar routine:

8:30 Willie punches in - alleges 14 people in office with him; Did he count them all? The story gets off to a bad start with that. But lets continue.

And no kidding, the "timeline" part of the post continues like that, with Jayhan snarking all the way. But it gets much, much crazier:

It should be pointed out here that Willies story about Felipe David having 32% of his skin blown off his body from the explosion and then getting severely burned in the process, and THEN walking or taking the elevator up to the offices is a lie. He would have been unconcious and in shock. This is where Willies story simply starts falls apart. Look now for embellishments which make the super hero look even more heroic.

Of course, Jayhan apparently disagrees with Felipe David himself about the first part:

God answered Felipe David's prayer the morning of Sept. 11. The member of Transfiguration Lutheran Church, Bronx, N.Y., suffered severe burns to most of his body in the World Trade Center explosion.

When the first plane crashed, David was taking inventory of the vending machines in the center's basement. "I asked God to give me strength. And I was able to get up and run six blocks to find an exit," he says.

But it gets much, muck wackier:

2. Where are the 16 miles of staircase that you cleaned on a daily basis Willy? They are totally and completely absent from the debris pile. "Where did those 16 miles of missing staircases go to Willy? And why aren't those 16 miles of missing staircases at the world trade center part of your international crusade?

What? The staircases are all missing? Oh, but Jayhan has an explanation for that. Hold onto your hats:

9. The truth is you never once cleaned the stairwells at the world trade center and that your entire story is a fraud, and you are a total fraud Willy. There was no stairwells at the world trade center. 16 miles of missing staircase is an impossibility under every circumstance but one. That they were never there to begin with.

!!!! Now I think we can all agree on a scale of 1-10, Jayhan's nutbar-o-meter just hit 27. But... is he really any more crazy than Box Boy Richard Gage, who thinks that all the floors are missing?

Personally I Prefer the 9-11 Gallo Effect

But some of the more gullible out there might enjoy The 9-11 Ripple Effect. Phil Jayhan and Dave von Kleist, two early 9-11 nutbars are back with a new film released today to try to pry some twenties out of the "Truthers".

You can see some preview clips here. It's all reasonably familiar; about the only surprise is that they are sticking with the Pod Theory, which is so discredited nowadays that debunkers get accused of "straw man" tactics if you bring it up. You may recall that the original Loose Change started with a discussion of the pod, but Dylan removed that segment from the second version of his crockumentary, then later tried to claim it was only because he didn't have enough room.

So far von Kleist has not placed the full film online. It does seem to have some fairly good production, although of course it's in service to a terrible cause. Expect this film to be more controversial inside the movement than outside (where it will doubtless be greeted with yawns).

Return of the Pod People!

BG asked for some commentary. Personally I welcome the return of the Pod Squad. It's amusing to see stuff that was so thoroughly debunked years ago that Deniers accuse you of using "straw man" tactics if you bring it up, coming back to life. Heck, the pod stuff is so old I don't even think I know it other than that it's just an optical illusion caused by the sun glinting off the fairing. I may have to go back to the old debunkers like McKinney sucks for this stuff!