Salon Publishes Blog Kookery

Salon has published some excellent debunking articles which we have been pleased to link over here. Yesterday, however, they published some 9-11 Nuttery for which we must slap them down a bit.

Every six months I return to the 9/11 scene, not to fan the flames but, instead, to review apparent truths ~ particularly in light of the growing awareness of the ongoing deceptions and lies of the Cheney/Bush Administration.

Apparent truths? First out of the chute:

On the day of the hijackings the US Government is running drills with its Air Force where it is simulating "Multiple Hijackings of Aircraft" within the United States of America. This drill causes great confusion amongst Air Traffic Controllers as it provides a "Cover" for the real Hijackings. Without these drills it is very possible that the Aircraft that were hijacked could have been intercepted far earlier. Certainly one has to consider this some sort of "Miracle".

One has to, that is, unless one actually considers what really happened.

08:37:52
BOSTON CENTER: Hi. Boston Center T.M.U. [Traffic Management Unit], we have a problem here. We have a hijacked aircraft headed towards New York, and we need you guys to, we need someone to scramble some F-16s or something up there, help us out.
POWELL: Is this real-world or exercise?
BOSTON CENTER: No, this is not an exercise, not a test.

So much for "great confusion".

No steel-framed buildings in the history of construction had ever suffered total structural collapse due to fires, yet on this single day, within hours of one another, THREE buildings collapse after fires burn through them. This even after Firefighters claim to have had the fires under control.

Sigh. I'll be hearing this one on my deathbed, and I'll have the same response then as I do now. Kader Toy Factory. Enigma Business Park. Google. The claim that the firefighters had the fires under control is the usual misreading of Orio Palmer's transmission that fires on 78th floor of the South Tower could be knocked down with two lines. What Palmer was not aware of at the time (or at least did not radio) was that much bigger fires were on the floors above him. Here's a look at the fires "under control" in the North Tower (which no fireman reached to my knowledge):



As for the rest, it's the usual fruitcake mix of lies, nonsense and irrelevancies. We get the dancing Israelis, "pull it", Silverstein's supposed gain on the insurance, Bush didn't leave Booker Elementary, etc.

Boo to Salon for allowing this on their site.

Update: I see James already caught this post; I have deleted the part where we overlapped on the security issue.

Frequent Daily Kos Poster Cites Neo-Nazi Hate Site Run by FBI Informant?

Okay, I'm just getting my arms around this story, so there may be some changes along the way, but it's just such a deliciously nutty tale that I can't resist running with it as is.

First, we have mentioned David Lindorff a few times. Lindorff's a regular poster on DailyKos. His bio over there reads:

Journalist Dave Lindorff writes for Counterpunch, the Nation, and Salon. He has written four books. The most recent, co-authored with Barbara Olshansky is "The Case for Impeachment" (St. Martin's Press).

He's also a 9-11 nutbar, which is why we have covered him. Lindorff has gotten away with posting "Truther" diaries at DailyKos, despite the standing ban on those diaries from Markos himself.

Back in July, CounterPunch published a hyperventilating article from Lindorff, entitled "Martial Law Threat is Real". He also posted it as a Diary at DailyKos.

Put this together with the wholly secret construction now under way--courtesy of a $385-million grant by the US Army Corps of Engineers to Halliburton subsidiary KBR Inc--of detention camps reportedly capable of confining as many as 400,000 people, and a recent report that the Pentagon has a document, dated June 1, 2007, classified Top Secret, which declares there to be a developing "insurgency" within the U.S, and which lays out a whole martial law counterinsurgency campaign against legal dissent, and you have all the ingredients for a military takeover of the United States.

These, of course, are the infamous "FEMA Death Camps" of Alex Jones' fevered fantasies. Paranoid Left, meet the Paranoid Right.

Give the commenter Moody Loner at Kos credit; he asked for a citation for the part I bolded above. Lindorff replies here:

It was provided to a radio host in Bergen, NJ. He's got it.

It reads like it's real, and having obtained the whole plan for Rex-84, the Ollie North plan for Martial Law, myself, I can say that this is of a piece with that document, and appears actually, to build on it, which would be logical.

He provided a link to "HalTurnershow.com" which is now a defunct website. To their credit several commenters noted that Turner is a notorious Neo-Nazi kook. And, at least according to this article, an FBI informant.

He was an FBI informant, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, a group that monitors hate groups and extremists.

According to the center, hackers confronted Turner on his Web site Jan. 1 and told him they had broken into Turner's computer server.

What they found were e-mails between Turner and an FBI agent who was apparently Turner's handler. The unidentified hackers posted a July 7 e-mail to the agent. In it, Turner gave the agent a message from someone threatening to kill Sen. Russ Feingold, Democrat of Wisconsin, the center said in a story on its Web site, www.splcenter.org.

"Once again," Turner wrote to the agent, "my fierce rhetoric has served to flush out a possible crazy."

Now, of course, this still leaves some question in my mind as to where Turner really stands. Is he a Neo-Nazi, who got the squeeze put on him by the Feds? Or was he some guy playing a Neo-Nazi to gain the trust of those losers in order to funnel information to the G-Men?

Regardless, isn't it plain that the Nation, CounterPunch, Salon, and the Daily Kos are doing themselves no favors by publishing a writer who uses such poor judgment as to cite a Neo-Nazi as evidence for his paranoid claims?

Hat Tip: Emailer Michael P. Great find!

Update: Longtime friend of this blog, Damian Penny, points us to this over the top OpEd of Lindorff's where he muses on the "bright side" of global warming:

So what we see is that huge swaths of conservative America are set to face a biblical deluge in a few more presidential cycles.