Thursday, August 16, 2007

Why Do They Fight?

As usual, when you ask the Truthers why they're "fighting for 9-11 Truth", they never mention 9-11 itself; it's always about something else.

Peter: "For a lot of different reasons. Um, first of all for all the people that are dying right now...."

Amy: "I fight for 9-11 Truth because this event, our government has used it to justify two illegal and immoral wars, murder of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians, and our soldiers; along with that they have curtailed many of our civil liberties...."

Older Woman: "Well, for myself, I'm a peace activist, and it's absolutely the only way we're going to stop this war and all future wars..."

Older Man: "We need justice before we can have peace, and the 9-11 Truth Movement is all about justice."

Woman in sun hat: "I fight because I've come to the conclusion that if we create an awareness in this country of what 9-11 was not, we can get it back, you know that thing our forefathers created for us, I think it's pretty much gone, although we don't realize it."

Guy in black hat: "Uh, because I believe in my country, I believe America was founded by people who would not accept lies and oppression, and we have an obligation to stand up for that, and against tyranny."

It's never about 9-11; it's always about what has happened as a result of 9-11. You know, I might find these crackpots more credible if one of them said it was about the murder of 3000 people.

I will give the San Diego kooks credit for one thing; there certainly are a lot of them, and very few are the young jerks in blackshirts we see so much of elsewhere.

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Tuesday, July 17, 2007

San Diego Kooks Pester Local Congresswoman

In this amusing little video. None are willing to let her answer their questions; check how many times they interrupt her in the middle of a sentence. They are so hot for impeachment, apparently failing to recognize that the Democrats realize that their only risk at this point for the 2008 elections is if they seem to be going too far.

They get into this Directive 51 nonsense, which Alex Jones and the fruitloops have been hyperventilating about for weeks. I did a quick search for information on this. The Progressive is concerned, but they checked elsewhere and found disagreement from a rather surprising source:

I decided to see what the American Civil Liberties Union thought of the May 9 release of the National Security Presidential Directive, and to my surprise, the ACLU did not seem that concerned about it.

“These presidential directives on the continuity of government have existed for a long time,” says Mike German, ACLU policy counsel. “All it does is establish that they should have a policy and coordinate that policy with legislative and judiciary. It doesn’t change the order of succession, or anything like that.”

Plus, he praised the Bush Administration for making the document public, since previous ones have remained classified.


Note that she has been to Iraq, but these activists have no interest in her knowledge of the situation; they know better than somebody who's actually been there. She definitely seems to be humoring the crackpots; you can see how hard she tries to keep from smiling as they ramble on about how the US is just as much a terrorist as Bin Laden (to grumbles from those who think Bin Laden isn't a terrorist).

Susan Davis is certainly no conservative; the liberal Americans for Democratic Action gave her a 90% rating in 2006, while the American Conservative Union gave her an 8%.

The 9-11 crackpottery really gets going about 8 minutes in. We hear the crap about how Thom Hartmann can't get anybody to defend the official position.

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