Friday, April 29, 2011

Time to Make Fun of Richard Gage Again

One of my most entertaining moments writing for this blog came when Alex Jones, who was interviewing Richard Gage for his radio show, attacked debunkers for making fun of the fact that Gage split up with his wife over his truther activities. A fact that we didn't know until he announced it live on the radio.

As we have discussed before, much of the allure of the conspiracy theory lifestyle is that one minute you can be a non-descript employee stuck in suburban cubicle hell, the next minute a brave freedom fighter striking out against the New World Order while being adoringly fawned over by other suburban warriors. Jonathan Kay, in a short preview of his upcoming book, amusingly touches on this sad phenomenon in the Washington Post.

There’s no polite way to say this: Many conspiracy theorists I met were paunchy 40- and 50-something men facing disappointment in their personal lives. In interviews, it seemed clear that they were struggling with midlife crises and trying to reinvent themselves for a new audience.

Consider Sept. 11 conspiracy theorist Richard Gage, an architect who abandoned his business to roam the world preaching the notion that “controlled demolition” brought down the twin towers. “I’ve never been happier,” he told me in 2009. “I feel blessed, in fact. This is my destiny, my mission. I’ve lost my career. I’ve lost my marriage. I’ve lost my house. But I’m working with patriots, spreading the truth about what’s happened to their country. What more could I ask?”

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At 29 April, 2011 13:19, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Off-topic. My apology.

James, this post is off-topic, however, I think you may want to have a look at the following YouTube video:

Richard Gage announces a five minute "documentary" on the collapse of WTC 7.

The "documentary" is alleged to air on PBS.

 
At 29 April, 2011 15:35, Blogger Grandmastershek said...

i really hope it gives truthers a new audience so they can learn the lesson all the sane ex truthers learned t years ago.

 
At 29 April, 2011 18:42, Blogger Triterope said...

much of the allure of the conspiracy theory lifestyle is that one minute you can be a non-descript employee stuck in suburban cubicle hell

I dunno about that. Suburban cubicle hell would be a big step up for a lot of these people.

 
At 29 April, 2011 20:13, Blogger Ian said...

I feel blessed, in fact. This is my destiny, my mission. I’ve lost my career. I’ve lost my marriage. I’ve lost my house.

Is there any doubt left that 9/11 truth is a religious cult? I'm just waiting for the mass suicide to take Richard Gage and his faithful unemployed janitor Brian Good to the spaceship trailing behind the comet.

 
At 30 April, 2011 08:11, Blogger William said...

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At 30 April, 2011 08:13, Blogger Grandmastershek said...

Suburban cubicle hell would be a big step up for a lot of these people.

I just hope they remember to put the new cover sheet on the TPC reports.

 
At 30 April, 2011 10:50, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"I’m working with patriots"

They aren't patriots, they are America hating conspiracy loons.

 
At 30 April, 2011 14:47, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 30 April, 2011 14:49, Blogger snug.bug said...

If they hate America, why wouldn't they just move somewhere else? I was plotting a move to Canada until I realized what deep doo doo this country was in, and clearly is still in. Gage's patriots are concerned that obvious balderdash is being passed off as reality in the American media. The closer you look at the facts of 9/11, the more the official explanations stink, and you needn't find your information on conspiracy websites, either. It's in the NYT, WaPo, Christian Science Monitor, Newsweek, and in the reports themselves.

 
At 30 April, 2011 16:24, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

He's working with Parots

 
At 30 April, 2011 16:36, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"I was plotting a move to Canada until I realized what deep doo doo this country was in, and clearly is still in."

Translation : Canada would let me in.


Gage's patriots are concerned that obvious balderdash is being passed off as reality in the American media.

Translation: There was a sale on tin foil, hats were made.

"The closer you look at the facts of 9/11,"

Translation: facts from consipracy websites, websites with an anti-American agenda, webistes run byu loonies.

"the more the official explanations stink,"

Translation: I wear a diaper, and I don't change it very often.

" you needn't find your information on conspiracy websites, either.
"

Translation: 99% of the facts that I choose to believ come from conspiracy websites.

"It's in the NYT, WaPo, Christian Science Monitor, Newsweek, and in the reports themselves."

Translation: It's in there but you need to send away for those cool X-Ray Vision glasses they advertise in Spiderman comic books. With those glasses you can read all of the secret messages the NWO sends to each other every day. Evidently the world is secretly run by an organization called "Burma Shave".

 
At 01 May, 2011 14:06, Blogger ConsDemo said...

If they hate America, why wouldn't they just move somewhere else?

Most twoofers are losers who couldn't make it an other country. Plus, despite their hatred for the US, they have no problem sucking off the benefits they enjoy in this country, which are taken away because of their twooferism, so of course they stay.

 
At 01 May, 2011 14:33, Blogger ConspiracyNut5 said...

sorry, the above post should have said "which aren't taken away"

 
At 01 May, 2011 20:47, Blogger Ian said...

If they hate America, why wouldn't they just move somewhere else?

What makes you think another country wants a small group of crackpots?

I was plotting a move to Canada until I realized what deep doo doo this country was in, and clearly is still in.

What makes you think Canada wants a loser like you? I'm sure Research in Motion or Toronto-Dominion Bank has enough janitors who can actually mop the floors competently.

And yes, the US is a mess. It's full of lunatics who believe in nonsense like 9/11 truth.

 
At 01 May, 2011 20:49, Blogger Ian said...

Gage's patriots are concerned that obvious balderdash is being passed off as reality in the American media.

False. Gage wanted to be a messiah instead of an anonymous, middling architect. So he started a religious cult.

The closer you look at the facts of 9/11, the more the official explanations stink, and you needn't find your information on conspiracy websites, either.

False.

It's in the NYT, WaPo, Christian Science Monitor, Newsweek, and in the reports themselves.

None of these sources mention spray-on thermite. You'd know this if you'd learn to read.

 
At 01 May, 2011 22:11, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 01 May, 2011 22:15, Blogger snug.bug said...

So what if they don't mention spray-on thermite? I never said thermite was sprayed on. I only challenged someone to show that it couldn't be sprayed on. They couldn't. It looks to me like mixing ordinary metal-flake aluminum into ordinary iron primer makes spray-on thermite. Do you have any information refuting that?

One of the excuses y'all offer for refusing to investigate thermite is the claim that incendiary charges would be difficult to install. If thermite can be sprayed on, it wouldn't be difficult to install at all.

 
At 02 May, 2011 03:59, Blogger Ian said...

So what if they don't mention spray-on thermite? I never said thermite was sprayed on. I only challenged someone to show that it couldn't be sprayed on. They couldn't. It looks to me like mixing ordinary metal-flake aluminum into ordinary iron primer makes spray-on thermite. Do you have any information refuting that?

Brian, did you know that there are two red-tailed hawks with a nest outside the office of the president of NYU on a ledge on the 12th floor of Bobst Library?

Why do I bring this up? Because it's as relevant to 9/11 as your spray-on thermite.

One of the excuses y'all offer for refusing to investigate thermite is the claim that incendiary charges would be difficult to install. If thermite can be sprayed on, it wouldn't be difficult to install at all.

Also, they nicknamed the male "Bobby" and the female "Violet".

 
At 02 May, 2011 09:14, Blogger snug.bug said...

The fact that the possiblility of the use of incendiaries in the twin towers is ignored by the authorities is certainly relevant, and the fact that the basis for ignoring it is irrational arguments such as "too difficult to install" is also relevant. The fact that NIST claims that the WTC7 collapse began at floor 13, and the fact that floors 14, 15, 16, and 17 were vacant is also relevant.

 
At 02 May, 2011 09:15, Blogger snug.bug said...

I knew about the hawks on 5th Avenue, not the ones at NYU. It's not like red-tails are endangered, though.

 
At 02 May, 2011 17:54, Blogger Ian said...

The fact that the possiblility of the use of incendiaries in the twin towers is ignored by the authorities is certainly relevant, and the fact that the basis for ignoring it is irrational arguments such as "too difficult to install" is also relevant. The fact that NIST claims that the WTC7 collapse began at floor 13, and the fact that floors 14, 15, 16, and 17 were vacant is also relevant.

See what I mean?

 
At 02 May, 2011 17:55, Blogger Ian said...

I knew about the hawks on 5th Avenue, not the ones at NYU. It's not like red-tails are endangered, though.

No, but watching red-tailed hawks raise chicks is one of about a billion things more life-enhancing than being active in the 9/11 truth movement.

 
At 02 May, 2011 18:30, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

I should point out that they never looked for Attack Baboon droppings either...probably for a good reason too.

 
At 02 May, 2011 18:57, Blogger snug.bug said...

There's no evidence for participation by attack baboons. There is evidence in the form of molten steel for the use of powerful incendiaries.

Leslie Robertson said he saw a "little river of molten steel".

 
At 02 May, 2011 20:00, Blogger Ian said...

There's no evidence for participation by attack baboons. There is evidence in the form of molten steel for the use of powerful incendiaries.

Leslie Robertson said he saw a "little river of molten steel".


Well, except for the problem of there being no molten steel and no evidence of incendiaries. But I'm sure you know better than everyone else. After all, you're a professor of chemical engineering and not an unemployed janitor, right?

 
At 02 May, 2011 20:10, Blogger snug.bug said...

Leslie Robertson said he saw molten steel. Are you calling him a liar?

FDNY Captain Philip Ruvolo said he saw molten steel. Are you calling him a liar?

Dr. Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl said he saw "melting of girders". Are you calling him a liar?

Dr. Ahmed Ghoniem said that the photos and videos show molten steel. Are you calling him a liar?

 
At 02 May, 2011 20:37, Blogger Ian said...

Leslie Robertson said he saw molten steel. Are you calling him a liar?

No, just mistaken. I'm calling you a liar.

FDNY Captain Philip Ruvolo said he saw molten steel. Are you calling him a liar?

No, just mistaken. I'm calling you a liar.

Dr. Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl said he saw "melting of girders". Are you calling him a liar?

No, just mistaken. I'm calling you a liar.

Dr. Ahmed Ghoniem said that the photos and videos show molten steel. Are you calling him a liar?

No, just mistaken. I'm calling you a liar.

 
At 02 May, 2011 20:37, Blogger Ian said...

Yup, you're a deranged glue-sniffing liar, Brian.

 
At 02 May, 2011 22:37, Blogger snug.bug said...

You think three engineers, two of them engineering PhDs, and a FDNY Captain don't know molten steel when they see it?

And you know better why? Because you're one of those "highly education professionals"?

 
At 03 May, 2011 03:57, Blogger Triterope said...

You think three engineers, two of them engineering PhDs, and a FDNY Captain don't know molten steel when they see it?

Well, I don't trust an unemployed janitor with a long history of being a pathological liar to report their statements accurately.

 
At 03 May, 2011 04:30, Blogger Ian said...

You think three engineers, two of them engineering PhDs, and a FDNY Captain don't know molten steel when they see it?

No, I just think a liar like you is misquoting them, just as you do Dr. Sunder and the NIST report.

And you know better why? Because you're one of those "highly education professionals"?

Yes, I'm a highly educated professional who knows that you're a hopeless liar who believes in 9/11 truth because your life has been an abysmal failure.

 
At 03 May, 2011 08:43, Blogger snug.bug said...

TR, for you to claim that I am a liar when you can not demonstrate even one time when I lied is very irresponsible, and devastating to your credibility. Unfortunately Ian is being allowed to set a fact-free tone in this forum, and the rest of you are following suit.

Ian, I didn't misquote anybody: not Dr. Sunder, not the four who commented on molten steel, and not the NIST report, and you can not show that I did.

 
At 03 May, 2011 15:57, Blogger Triterope said...

TR, for you to claim

Shut the fuck up, Brian.

 
At 03 May, 2011 16:50, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, I didn't misquote anybody: not Dr. Sunder, not the four who commented on molten steel, and not the NIST report, and you can not show that I did.

False. If you weren't a liar, Brian, maybe the widows would have their questions answered by now.

 
At 03 May, 2011 16:52, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

Attack Baboon droppings when exposed to flame look like molten steel.

If those guys saw molten steel then why didn't they get samples? If they did get samples then where are those samples today? (see I can play those games too).

Did they see molten steel or what -LOOKED LIKE- molten steel? What was the context of their seeing it? If this is all based on a 9-year old report/statement then what do these guys say now?

 
At 03 May, 2011 21:40, Blogger snug.bug said...

MGF, Dr. Jones did get samples of formerly-molten iron taken from a 40-pound ingot from ground zero.

Dr. Astaneh Asl said he saw "melting of girders at ground zero". Unless you think the place was littered with aluminum girders, that means steel.

Dr. Ahmed Ghoniem said the photographic evidence of molten steel was strong--presumably he's talking about molten girders too.

 
At 04 May, 2011 17:05, Blogger GuitarBill said...

You just can't stop lying, can you, goat fucker?

Have you no shame, Pinocchio?

 
At 05 May, 2011 00:13, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFool, all you have is empty claims. I didn't lie.

 
At 05 May, 2011 04:54, Blogger Ian said...

You didn't lie, Brian? So does that mean you're going to admit to being petgoat? Doing otherwise is a lie.

 
At 05 May, 2011 07:04, Blogger GuitarBill said...

You're sick, goat fucker.

You're a psychopath and a compulsive liar. Seek psychiatric intervention.

 
At 05 May, 2011 08:41, Blogger snug.bug said...

Ian to refuse comment is not a lie. You're still flunking second-grade epistemology. That's one reason you're so confused about 9/11 (the other is your ignorance about 9/11).

UtterBotch, so you still can't demonstrate that your empty claims are true. Thanks for proving my point.

 
At 05 May, 2011 09:13, Blogger GuitarBill said...

I don't have to demonstrate anything--you lying son-of-a-bitch.

Tell more about Dr. Sisson's research--you pathological liar.

 
At 05 May, 2011 09:23, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Or better yet, goat fucker, spare us another attempt at thread hijacking and go fuck yourself.

You have no credibility, Pinocchio.

Now go play in the freeway--you lying freak.

 
At 05 May, 2011 10:48, Blogger snug.bug said...

No, you don't have to demonstrate that your claims are true--and since you can't, I don't expect you to.

 

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