Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Keith Olbermann, Truther

Recent Tweet on the Eichenwald OpEd in the Times:


Certainly makes this clip of Olbermann chastising (correctly) Andrew Napolitano for his Trutherism somewhat ironic:

192 Comments:

At 19 September, 2012 15:23, Blogger GuitarBill said...

I beg to differ. Pointing out the Bush administrations' incompetence doesn't make one a troofer.

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At 19 September, 2012 15:57, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

Pointing out the Bush administrations' incompetence doesn't make one a troofer.

No, but jumping to conclusions kinda does. Did the Administration really know the dates & means of the attacks? The article doesn't say that.

Remember this is the same Keith Olbermann who believes Bush tried to blame 9/11 on Iraq, because he once used "Iraq" and "9/11" in the same sentence.

 
At 19 September, 2012 16:25, Blogger GuitarBill said...

RGT wrote, "...Remember this is the same Keith Olbermann who believes Bush tried to blame 9/11 on Iraq, because he once used 'Iraq' and '9/11' in the same sentence."

AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 11

[1] Mohamed Atta, pilot and group leader. Nationality: Egyptian.

[2] Abdulaziz Alomari. Nationality: Saudi.

[3] Satam M.A. Al Suqami. Nationality: Saudi.

[4] Wail M. Alshehri. Nationality: Saudi.

[5] Waleed M. Alshehri. Nationality: Saudi.

UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 175

[6] Marwan al-Shehhi, pilot and group leader. Nationality: United Arab Emirates.

[7] Fayez Rashid Ahmed Hassan Al Qadi Banihammad. Nationality: Saudi.

[8] Ahmed Alghamdi. Nationality: Saudi.

[9] Hamza Alghamdi. Nationality: Saudi.

[10] Mohand Alshehri. Nationality: Saudi.

AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77

[11] Hani Hanjour, pilot and group leader. Nationality: Saudi.

[12] Nawaf Alhazmi. Nationality: Saudi.

[13] Majed Moqed. Nationality: Saudi.

[14] Khalid Almihdhar. Nationality: Saudi.

[15] Salem Alhazmi. Nationality: Saudi.

UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 93

[16] Ziad Samir Jarrah, pilot and group leader. Nationality: Lebanese.

[17] Saeed Alghamdi. Nationality: Saudi.

[18] Ahmed Ibrahim A. Al Haznawi. Nationality: Saudi.

[19] Ahmed Alnami. Nationality: Saudi.

Given the aforementioned information, I can see why some people might find the Bush administration's decision to attack Iraq and Afghanistan somewhat disturbing.

But then again, compared to a stark raving genius like George "Is our children learning" Bush, what do I know?

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At 19 September, 2012 16:52, Blogger Len said...

I agree with GB, though poorly stated Olberman seems to have meant Bush was incompetent not that he backed LIHOP

 
At 19 September, 2012 17:39, Blogger snug.bug said...

Don't forget Condi Rice, National Security Advisor. Though she was twice briefed by the CIA on the imminent and severe threat of upcoming attacks, she can't remember if she discussed the presence of domestic al Qaeda cells with the presidunce.

 
At 19 September, 2012 18:52, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good whines, "...Don't forget Condi Rice, National Security Advisor. [SIC]."

Yeah, we know that as a crypto-racist Republican you can't resist the opportunity to bad mouth a black woman. After all, she's probably related to conspiratorial "welfare queens." And we all know how your hero, Ronald "senile dementia" Reagan, felt about "welfare queens."

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At 20 September, 2012 00:14, Blogger snug.bug said...

Condi sat on the Principals Committee that approved torture policies before there was any pretense of legal cover. Condi told the CIA: "It's your baby, go do it!" Condi was responsible to prevent 9/11 and she didn't lift a finger to do it, and then she lied under oath to the 9/11 widows about the "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US" memo because she thought it would never be declassified.


 
At 20 September, 2012 00:37, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good lies, "...Condi was responsible to prevent 9/11 and she didn't lift a finger to do it."

Bullshit!

"Condi" isn't a soothsayer, and you're anything but a "scholar."

No one could have prevented 9/11 in a free and open society. And all you're lying, howling and squealing doesn't prove a Goddamned thing.


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At 20 September, 2012 02:15, Blogger The Q. said...

hey Keith Olbermann, I will punch you. Now you are Fully Warned. If i hit you, it's your fault.

Idiot idea for the truth

 
At 20 September, 2012 08:17, Blogger snug.bug said...

Condi was the National Security Advisor. As such, she (and her assistant, Dr. Philip Zelikow--ever hear of him) received a briefing from the anti-terrorist czar, Richard Clarke about the al Qaeda threat and Mr. Clarke's plan for going after al Qaeda by interference with their banking relationships and by military action. The former National Security Advisor, Sandy Berger, went along for this briefing to emphasize the importance of Mr. Clarke's presentation.

Condi's response was to do nothing, to institute a broad policy review that would take up the next 8 months Philip Zelikow reorganized the chain of command and demoted Mr. Clarke so he no longer had cabinet level access as Clarke went running around with his hair on fire.

Condi was responsible to prevent 9/11. The CIA briefed her on 5/30 and 7/10. There was the famous "Bin Laden Determined to Attack in US" memo on 8/6. There were all the other PDBs now under discussion. She did nothing. The CIA's Cofer Black said "We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head." The CIA's Tenet and Blee said that if she had acted, 9/11 might have been prevented.

You, GutterBall, don't know what you're talking about. Say! Why don't you make a Youtube Series about Perl scripting and make yourself useful? Get a copy of Camtasia and make a name for yourself.



 
At 20 September, 2012 09:48, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

Did nothing...except order all civilian access to military bases cut off. New security barriers and fences built Issue travel warnings in Midlle East about AQ planning to hijack commercial jetliners...other than that they did nothing...

 
At 20 September, 2012 09:49, Blogger GuitarBill said...

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At 20 September, 2012 09:54, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good whines, "...You, GutterBall, don't know what you're talking about."

Don't condescend to me--you stupid cocksucker. You don't have the academic background or the professional experience to condescend to me, sex predator.

Once again, you're citing yourself as an authority without providing the hyperlinks to substantiate your argument. And you refuse to substantiate your argument because the quotations you provide, as always, are the product of quote mining.

You are simply not trustworthy. Thus, either produce the links or STFU.

And links to troofer websites aren't evidence, they're a circle jerk.

Stick to mopping floors, sex predator.

Once again, you FAIL, goat fucker.

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Answer: Trustworthy.

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At 20 September, 2012 10:23, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Where did Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good get his alleged quote from Cofer Black?

There are only three sources for the quote. And the quote comes from--you guessed it!--the comment section for 3 YouTube videos.

And who is the author of the YouTube comment? Answer: punxsutawneybarney.

And who is "punxsutawneybarney"?

Answer Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good.

Proof?

YouTube Link 1

And I quote:

"Tenet was in on briefings of Condi Rice on urgent warnings of an imminent al Qaeda attack given 5/30 and 7/10. Cofer Black, who was also there, said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' See my video:Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows" -- "punxsutawneybarney"

YouTube Link 2

And I quote:

"The CIA briefed her on 5/30/01 and 7/10/01 about imminent al Qaeda attacks. The CIA's Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' Later Condi told the 9/11 Commission she could not remember if she informed the president of the presencve [SIC] of al Qeda [SIC] cells inside the USA. For more about Dr. Rice see my video 'Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows'" -- "punxsutawneybarney"

YouTube Link 3

And I quote:

"Condi committed perjury when she told the 9/11 Commission that the 'Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US' memo was not a warning. It warned of preparations for hijackings and planned attacks in the US. She got strong warnings from the CIA on 5/30 and 7/10; Tenet and Blee agreed that had she acted, 9/11 could have been prevented. Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' See my video "Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows" -- "punxsutawneybarney"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

BUSTED!

Now tell us that you're not "punxsutawneybarney"--you lying scumbag.

So goat fucker, you're either a plagiarist or "punxsutawneybarney." So which is it, scum.bag? Take your pick.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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At 20 September, 2012 11:14, Blogger snug.bug said...

MGF, thanks for proving my point. Condi did absolutely nothing that might prevent the worst attack on US soil since Pearl Harbor.

GutterBall, for you to brag about your cacademic background is amusing given your lousy scholarship. I guess according to you I'm also Michelle Norris and Bob Woodward.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6182002

I can back up everything I say. There's no point in investing the time to insert links, because you and MGF and Ian will just bury my work under a lot of stupidspam. People who want to check it out can easily confirm that what I say is true.


 
At 20 September, 2012 11:19, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Alleged quotations from a third party--in this case, Bob Woodward--are not evidence. It's hearsay.

FAIL

And, as usual, you didn't answer my question:

So goat fucker, you're either a plagiarist or "punxsutawneybarney." So which is it, scum.bag? Take your pick.

Now answer the Goddamned question, scum.bag.

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At 20 September, 2012 11:20, Blogger GuitarBill said...

So goat fucker, in your diseased mind, does hearsay qualify as "scholarship"?

You're a fucking idiot.

FAIL.

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At 20 September, 2012 11:58, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 20 September, 2012 11:59, Blogger snug.bug said...

You're changing the subject, UtterFail. The point was, you were laughably wrong to suggest that the quote means I am punxsutanybernie. Michelle Norris used the very same quote. The point is, you're incompetent. So incompetent that you'll believe the obvious lies of a con artist like old Jiggle Cheeks.

 
At 20 September, 2012 13:23, Blogger GuitarBill said...

I'm not changing the subject at all--you cretin.

Your "Bob Woodward" quote is third-party hearsay, and I don't give a damn who used it.

Here's what you wrote, jackass:

"...Condi was responsible to prevent 9/11. The CIA briefed her on 5/30 and 7/10. There was the famous "Bin Laden Determined to Attack in US" memo on 8/6. There were all the other PDBs now under discussion. She did nothing. The CIA's Cofer Black said "We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head." The CIA's Tenet and Blee said that if she had acted, 9/11 might have been prevented." -- Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good, lying his ass off at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17

Now, either you're a plagiarist or you're "punxsutawneybarney." Take your pick, asshole.

Continued...

 
At 20 September, 2012 13:24, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Continued...

Proof that Brian Good is "punxsutawneybarney":

There are only three sources for the quote. And the quote comes from--you guessed it!--the comment section for 3 YouTube videos.

And who is the author of the YouTube comment? Answer: punxsutawneybarney.

And who is "punxsutawneybarney"?

Answer Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good.

Proof?

YouTube Link 1. And I quote:

"Tenet was in on briefings of Condi Rice on urgent warnings of an imminent al Qaeda attack given 5/30 and 7/10. Cofer Black, who was also there, said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' See my video:Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows" -- "punxsutawneybarney"

YouTube Link 2. And I quote:

"The CIA briefed her on 5/30/01 and 7/10/01 about imminent al Qaeda attacks. The CIA's Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' Later Condi told the 9/11 Commission she could not remember if she informed the president of the presencve [SIC] of al Qeda [SIC] cells inside the USA. For more about Dr. Rice see my video 'Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows'" -- "punxsutawneybarney"

YouTube Link 3. And I quote:

"Condi committed perjury when she told the 9/11 Commission that the 'Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US' memo was not a warning. It warned of preparations for hijackings and planned attacks in the US. She got strong warnings from the CIA on 5/30 and 7/10; Tenet and Blee agreed that had she acted, 9/11 could have been prevented. Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' See my video "Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows." -- "punxsutawneybarney"

BUSTED!

Now tell us that you're not "punxsutawneybarney"--you lying scumbag.

Now answer the Goddamned question:

So goat fucker, you're either a plagiarist or "punxsutawneybarney." So which is it, scum.bag? Take your pick, scum.bag.

Now squeal, lie and change the subject, asshole.

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At 20 September, 2012 13:32, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Here's what you wrote at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17:

"...Condi was responsible to prevent 9/11. The CIA briefed her on 5/30 and 7/10. There was the famous "Bin Laden Determined to Attack in US" memo on 8/6. There were all the other PDBs now under discussion. She did nothing. The CIA's Cofer Black said "We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head." The CIA's Tenet and Blee said that if she had acted, 9/11 might have been prevented." -- Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good, lying his ass off at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17

And now, "punxsutawneybarney":

YouTube Link 3. And I quote:

"Condi committed perjury when she told the 9/11 Commission that the 'Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US' memo was not a warning. It warned of preparations for hijackings and planned attacks in the US. She got strong warnings from the CIA on 5/30 and 7/10; Tenet and Blee agreed that had she acted, 9/11 could have been prevented. Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' See my video "Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows." -- "punxsutawneybarney"

Now answer the question, scum.bag:

So goat fucker, you're either a plagiarist or "punxsutawneybarney." So which is it, scum.bag? Take your pick.

LOL! You are so BUSTED it's hilarious!

Now lie again, scum.bag.

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At 20 September, 2012 15:06, Blogger Ian said...

I see Brian is babbling about Condoleeza Rice again, mostly because he's a racist liar and a disgusting pervert and misogynist who can't stand to see an African-American woman in such a position of power when he's a failed janitor who lives with his parents.

Also, Brian weirdly refers to her as "Condi" as if he knows her personally. I imagine Brian has a "Condi" Rice doll in his basement, next to his Willie Rodriguez doll and his Laurie Van Auken doll and his Victoria's Secret underwear.

 
At 20 September, 2012 20:44, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, you're so dumb you haven't figured out that I'm Michelle Norris.

Ian, I call Condi "Condi" because I'm too lazy to type out Condoleezza.

I hold Condi to the same standards I would hold any white person. There's nothing racist about calling her out as a torturer and a perjurer. NOT calling her out as a torturer and a perjurer would be racist.

 
At 20 September, 2012 20:46, Blogger snug.bug said...

Same with Willie Fraudriguez. NOT calling him out as a scumbag and a con artist would be racist. Unfortunately a lot of racists in the truth movement gave him a pass. He put on the phony Ricky Ricardo accent and they ate it up. They thought he was too stupid to lie.

 
At 20 September, 2012 22:39, Blogger Mike Rosefierce said...

Olbermann giving advice to a WeAreChanger:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1enMYbAFEXs

"It's important to examine not so much the specifics, the minute details of what buildings collapsed and why. I would focus entirely and push as much as possible on why the whole thing happened or why it was permitted to be happening, whether or not there's anything besides those people who we know were involved in it internationally. Push that point and suddenly people stop thinking about how could you possibly create something like that and instead worry more about the important details which is who would have had any reason to do so."

That does sound pretty truthery. Olbermann seems to be at least flirting with LIHOP if not fully embracing it.

 
At 20 September, 2012 23:01, Blogger snug.bug said...

If you take the trouble, as I did, to look into the "incompetence" you see that nobody could be that incompetent. Not even GutterBall and MGF put together.

 
At 21 September, 2012 04:22, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, I call Condi "Condi" because I'm too lazy to type out Condoleezza.

Well, there's no doubt you are lazy. And dumb. And ignorant. And insane. And in possession of the worst haircut on earth.

I hold Condi to the same standards I would hold any white person. There's nothing racist about calling her out as a torturer and a perjurer. NOT calling her out as a torturer and a perjurer would be racist.

False. You don't hold Dick Cheney to such standards, because you're a disgusting racist and misogynist.

Same with Willie Fraudriguez. NOT calling him out as a scumbag and a con artist would be racist. Unfortunately a lot of racists in the truth movement gave him a pass. He put on the phony Ricky Ricardo accent and they ate it up. They thought he was too stupid to lie.

We get it, Brian. We know you're a perverted homosexual who lusts for Rodriguez and can't stand that he rejected you. Enough already.

If you take the trouble, as I did, to look into the "incompetence" you see that nobody could be that incompetent. Not even GutterBall and MGF put together.

Hey, if a mentally ill unemployed janitor who believes in magic thermite elves says "nobody could be that incompetent", who are we to argue?

Also, I'd like to remind everyone that Brian STILL hasn't gotten a single question from the widows answered. Not one.

 
At 21 September, 2012 08:08, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good babbles, "...you're so dumb you haven't figured out that I'm Michelle Norris."

On the contrary, I've figured you out, goat fucker. And your argument, as always, is nonsense.

FACT: Your Cofer Black citation is third part hearsay, idiot.

Your fallacious reasoning is as follows: Michelle Norris says Bob Woodward says Cofer Black says.

That's third party hearsay, cretin. Third party hearsay will not hold up in a court of law. Thus, third party hearsay isn't "evidence."

Moreover, nowhere can I find a direct quote from Cofer Black let alone Bob Woodward.

FACT: You have never confirmed Cofer Black's charges against Dr. Rice, nor are Cofer Black's charges against Dr. Rice corroborated by a credible source. Thus, your argument is UNCORROBORATED THIRD PARTY HEARSAY.

As usual, if someone says something that agrees with your cockamamie conspiracy nonsense, it's unquestionably true. If someone says something that refutes your asinine conspiracy nonsense, it's "incomplete, unscientific and unbelievable."

Thus, you're not only a hypocrite, your alleged "scholarship" is third-rate, at best. Is it any wonder that you're a college dropout? No professor would tolerate your fallacious nonsense for a microsecond.

Cretin.

"...The plan we developed to deal with al Qaeda depended on developing sources of human and technical intelligence that could give us insights into his plans at the tactical level. This is easy to say but hard to accomplish." -- Cofer Black

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At 21 September, 2012 08:15, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Now that I've UTTERLY DESTROYED your garbage "source," let's get back to the real issue.

Here's what you wrote at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17:

"...Condi was responsible to prevent 9/11. The CIA briefed her on 5/30 and 7/10. There was the famous 'Bin Laden Determined to Attack in US' memo on 8/6. There were all the other PDBs now under discussion. She did nothing. The CIA's Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' The CIA's Tenet and Blee said that if she had acted, 9/11 might have been prevented." -- Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good, lying his ass off at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17

And now, "punxsutawneybarney":

YouTube Link 3. And I quote:

"Condi committed perjury when she told the 9/11 Commission that the 'Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US' memo was not a warning. It warned of preparations for hijackings and planned attacks in the US. She got strong warnings from the CIA on 5/30 and 7/10; Tenet and Blee agreed that had she acted, 9/11 could have been prevented. Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' See my video 'Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows.'" -- "punxsutawneybarney"

Now stop changing the subject and answer the question, scum.bag:

So goat fucker, you're either a plagiarist or "punxsutawneybarney." So which is it, scum.bag? Take your pick.

Now CHANGE THE SUBJECT, STONEWALL and LIE again, scum.bag.

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At 21 September, 2012 08:43, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Here's more proof that your Cofer Black quote is fallacious nonsense.

From the New York Times we read the following:

"...Officials now agree that on July 10, 2001, Mr. Tenet and his counterterrorism deputy, J. Cofer Black, were so alarmed about an impending Al Qaeda attack that they demanded an emergency meeting at the White House with Ms. Rice and her National Security Council staff.

"According to two former intelligence officials, Mr. Tenet told those assembled at the White House about the growing body of intelligence the Central Intelligence Agency had collected pointing to an impending Al Qaeda attack. But both current and former officials took issue with Mr. Woodward’s account that Mr. Tenet and his aides left the meeting in frustration, feeling as if Ms. Rice had ignored them.

"Mr. Tenet told members of the Sept. 11 commission about the July 10 meeting when they interviewed him in early 2004, but committee members said the former C.I.A. director never indicated he had left the White House with the impression that he had been ignored.

"'Tenet never told us that he was brushed off,' said Richard Ben-Veniste, a Democratic member of the commission. 'We certainly would have followed that up.'"
-- By Philip Shenon and Mark Mazzetti, The New York Times, 2 October 2006.

Thus, your entire argument is BULLSHIT. And your Cofer Black account, which is attributed to Bob Woodward, is DIRECTLY REFUTED BY RICHARD BEN-VENISTE AND MR. TENET.

Thus, your argument, as always, is fallacious nonsense, which you could have easily proven false by doing a simple Google search.

Performing the Google search, however, would conflict with your fallacious nonsense, so the testimony of Mr. Ben-Veniste and Mr. Tenet is discarded as "incomplete, unscientific and unbelievable."

Thus, your entire argument is exposed as deceptive troofer propaganda.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Once again, you FAIL, goat fucker.

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At 21 September, 2012 09:03, Blogger Mike Rosefierce said...

snug.bug said... "The point was, you were laughably wrong to suggest that the quote means I am punxsutanybernie."

If you want to fool people into thinking you're not punxsutawneybarney, you need to be more subtle than that. Try putting just one spelling error in the name instead of four.

 
At 21 September, 2012 11:16, Blogger snug.bug said...

MR, you can't expect an Australian to spell Delaware place names correctly.

Ian, I hold Dick Cheney to the same standards as everybody else. I don't have much occasion to talk about him here because the subject of his crimes never comes up.

UtterFail, Bob Woodward wrote: "Black later said, 'The only thing we didn't do was pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.'"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/30/AR2006093000282_pf.html

Perhaps if you would learn to google your opinions wouldn't be so peculiar.

Your analysis of the evidence is incompetent. The context of the statement is the time they left the meeting. At the time they left the meeting they felt they had not been brushed off.

But as subsequent non-events showed, in fact Condi ignored them. So their attitudes at the time of the meeting are irrelevant to anyone except a lunatic like yourself that is desperate to be right about something, anything, just once in his silly little life--and still failing utterly.

 
At 21 September, 2012 12:01, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good lies, "...your spambulous [SIC] posting of the same erroneous bullshit in multiple threads is rude...Bob Woodward wrote: 'Black later said, "The only thing we didn't do was pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.""

False. Now, as expected, you're PETTIFOGGING.

Learn to read, goat fucker.

"...But both current and former officials took issue with Mr. Woodward’s account that Mr. Tenet AND HIS AIDES left the meeting in frustration, feeling as if Ms. Rice had ignored them...'Tenet never told us that he was brushed off,' said Richard Ben-Veniste, a Democratic member of the commission. 'We certainly would have followed that up.'" -- The New York Times, 2 October 2006

Get it through your thick skull: Mr. Cofer Black was one of Mr. Tenet's aids--you lying jackass.

Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good lies, "...Your analysis of the evidence is incompetent. The context of the statement is the time they left the meeting. At the time they left the meeting they felt they had not been brushed off....But as subsequent non-events showed, in fact Condi ignored them."

False.

The New York Times article I reference above was written on 2 October 2006, idiot. Thus, your malarkey about "context" is 180 degrees out of phase with reality. (The WP article you reference, by the way, is dated 1 October 2006). As usual, your argument is fallacious nonsense.

See? You're an idiot who can't read or be trusted to tell the truth.

Once again, you FAIL, goat fucker.

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At 21 September, 2012 12:09, Blogger snug.bug said...

If they left the briefing thinking they had not been brushed off, and if Condi in fact ignored them (which she did) then they were in fact brushed off, whatever they may have felt at the time.

I'm sorry your emotional problems prevent you from thinking clearly, but it's not my fault.

 
At 21 September, 2012 12:13, Blogger GuitarBill said...

From your own article, jackass:

"...Tenet and Black felt they were not getting through to Rice. She was polite, but they felt the brush-off. President Bush had said he didn't want to swat at flies." -- The Washington Post, 1 October 2006.

Now try to blame it on Dr. Rice--you evil Log Cabin Republican bigot.

See? You're an idiot who can't read or be trusted to tell the truth.

Once again, you FAIL, goat fucker.

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At 21 September, 2012 12:49, Blogger GuitarBill said...

So goat fucker, now that I've exposed you as a "Bushbot" (your words, scumbag) who's trying to take the heat for the intelligence failures on 9/11 off George W. Bush and place the blame on the shoulders of Dr. Rice, when do you plan to address the "punxsutawneybarney" issue?

Here's what you wrote at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17:

"...Condi was responsible to prevent 9/11. The CIA briefed her on 5/30 and 7/10. There was the famous 'Bin Laden Determined to Attack in US' memo on 8/6. There were all the other PDBs now under discussion. She did nothing. The CIA's Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' The CIA's Tenet and Blee said that if she had acted, 9/11 might have been prevented." -- Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good, lying his ass off at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17

And now, "punxsutawneybarney":

YouTube Link 3. And I quote:

"Condi committed perjury when she told the 9/11 Commission that the 'Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US' memo was not a warning. It warned of preparations for hijackings and planned attacks in the US. She got strong warnings from the CIA on 5/30 and 7/10; Tenet and Blee agreed that had she acted, 9/11 could have been prevented. Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' See my video 'Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows.'" -- "punxsutawneybarney"

Now stop changing the subject and answer the question, scum.bag:

So goat fucker, you're either a plagiarist or "punxsutawneybarney." So which is it, scum.bag? Take your pick.

Now squeal, lie and attempt CHANGE THE SUBJECT again, scum.bag.

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At 21 September, 2012 12:51, Blogger snug.bug said...

I can blame it on KindaLiesaLot Rice. She was warned by Clarke, she was warned by Tenet, Blee, and Black; there were warnings from 13 foreign countries and 4 FBI offices--and she did nothing, nada, zilch to do her job as National Security Advisor and protect this country from a known threat.

It's her fault.

 
At 21 September, 2012 13:11, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Don't change the subject, goat fucker. I just proved that the responsibility for the intelligence failures on 9/11 rests SQUARELY ON BUSH'S SHOULDERS, NOT DR. RICE.

Get it through your thick skull, jackass:

"...Tenet and Black felt they were not getting through to Rice. She was polite, but they felt the brush-off. President Bush had said he didn't want to swat at flies." -- The Washington Post, 1 October 2006.

So how much does the Hoover Institution pay you to spam the Internet for 18 hours a day with hate propaganda directed against Dr. Rice--you Log Cabin Republican bigot? Do you suck George W. Bush's cock, too?

Now stop trying to CHANGE THE SUBJECT, and ANSWER THE GODDAMNED QUESTION.

Here's what you wrote at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17:

"...Condi was responsible to prevent 9/11. The CIA briefed her on 5/30 and 7/10. There was the famous 'Bin Laden Determined to Attack in US' memo on 8/6. There were all the other PDBs now under discussion. She did nothing. The CIA's Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' The CIA's Tenet and Blee said that if she had acted, 9/11 might have been prevented." -- Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good, lying his ass off at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17

And now, "punxsutawneybarney":

YouTube Link 3. And I quote:

"Condi committed perjury when she told the 9/11 Commission that the 'Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US' memo was not a warning. It warned of preparations for hijackings and planned attacks in the US. She got strong warnings from the CIA on 5/30 and 7/10; Tenet and Blee agreed that had she acted, 9/11 could have been prevented. Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' See my video 'Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows.'" -- "punxsutawneybarney"

Now stop changing the subject and answer the question, scum.bag:

So goat fucker, you're either a plagiarist or "punxsutawneybarney." So which is it, scum.bag? Take your pick.

Now squeal, CHANGE THE SUBJECT and lie again, scum.bag.

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At 21 September, 2012 14:14, Blogger snug.bug said...

You proved nothing of the sort. KindaLiesaLot told the 9/11 Commission she could not remember if she discussed al Qaeda's domestic presence with the president.

 
At 21 September, 2012 15:22, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good whines, "...You proved nothing of the sort. KindaLiesaLot told the 9/11 Commission she could not remember if she discussed al Qaeda's domestic presence with the president."

That doesn't prove a thing.

Your own Washington Post article proves that you're wrong--and I quote:

"...Tenet and Black felt they were not getting through to Rice. She was polite, but they felt the brush-off. President Bush had said he didn't want to swat at flies." -- The Washington Post, 1 October 2006.

Dr. Rice's memory isn't the issue. Bush's wishes are a matter of record. Thus, the responsibility for the intelligence failure rests on Bush's shoulders and Bush's shoulders alone.

And you didn't answer my question--you Log Cabin Republican bigot:

How much does the Hoover Institution pay you to spam the Internet for 18 hours a day with hate propaganda directed against Dr. Rice--you Log Cabin Republican bigot? Do you suck George W. Bush's cock, too?

Now stop changing the subject and address the "punxsutawneybarney" question.

Here's what you wrote at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17:

"...Condi was responsible to prevent 9/11. The CIA briefed her on 5/30 and 7/10. There was the famous 'Bin Laden Determined to Attack in US' memo on 8/6. There were all the other PDBs now under discussion. She did nothing. The CIA's Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' The CIA's Tenet and Blee said that if she had acted, 9/11 might have been prevented." -- Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good, lying his ass off at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17

And now, "punxsutawneybarney":

YouTube Link 3. And I quote:

"Condi committed perjury when she told the 9/11 Commission that the 'Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US' memo was not a warning. It warned of preparations for hijackings and planned attacks in the US. She got strong warnings from the CIA on 5/30 and 7/10; Tenet and Blee agreed that had she acted, 9/11 could have been prevented. Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' See my video 'Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows.'" -- "punxsutawneybarney"

Now stop changing the subject and answer the question, scum.bag:

So goat fucker, you're either a plagiarist or "punxsutawneybarney." So which is it, scum.bag? Take your pick.

Now CHANGE THE SUBJECT, STONEWALL and LIE again, scum.bag.

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At 21 September, 2012 16:49, Blogger snug.bug said...

Nice job of quote-mining, ButtGale.

The article says:

"Tenet hoped his abrupt request for an immediate meeting would shake Rice. . . . She was polite, but they felt the brush-off. . . . She was in a different place. Tenet left the meeting feeling frustrated. . . . Afterward, Tenet looked back on the meeting with Rice as a tremendous lost opportunity to prevent or disrupt the Sept. 11 attacks. Rice could have gotten through to Bush on the threat, but she just didn't get it in time, Tenet thought. . . . He felt she was not organized and did not push people. . . .

Black later said, "The only thing we didn't do was pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/30/AR2006093000282.html

 
At 21 September, 2012 17:05, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Bullshit!

I didn't quote mine anything. Nor did I take one word out of CONTEXT.

In fact, you're the one who's quote mining--you evil son-of-a-bitch. And the ellipses (...) in your hack quote mining job are all the proof I need to prove that you're lying. You also left the following quote out of hack job. Why is that, scumbag?

"...Tenet and Black felt they were not getting through to Rice. She was polite, but they felt the brush-off. President Bush had said he didn't want to swat at flies." -- The Washington Post, 1 October 2006.

Notice that I didn't leave the first TWO SENTENCES OUT OF MY QUOTE. That would be quote mining. This FACT ALONE PROVES that I didn't quote mine anything--you lying bigot.

In fact, you quote mined the article. And we know this is true because you failed to include the aforementioned quote wherein the article states--and I quote: "...President Bush had said he didn't want to swat at flies."

So why did you carefully omit that CRUCIAL SENTENCE?

Answer: You're a QUOTE MINER with the morals of a street-walking whore.

See? You're an idiot. You're so poorly educated that you don't know the definition of QUOTE MINING.

Cretin.

Once again, you FAIL, goat fucker.

Now stop changing the subject and address the "punxsutawneybarney" question.

Here's what you wrote at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17:

"...Condi was responsible to prevent 9/11. The CIA briefed her on 5/30 and 7/10. There was the famous 'Bin Laden Determined to Attack in US' memo on 8/6. There were all the other PDBs now under discussion. She did nothing. The CIA's Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' The CIA's Tenet and Blee said that if she had acted, 9/11 might have been prevented." -- Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good, lying his ass off at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17

And now, "punxsutawneybarney":

YouTube Link 3. And I quote:

"Condi committed perjury when she told the 9/11 Commission that the 'Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US' memo was not a warning. It warned of preparations for hijackings and planned attacks in the US. She got strong warnings from the CIA on 5/30 and 7/10; Tenet and Blee agreed that had she acted, 9/11 could have been prevented. Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' See my video 'Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows.'" -- "punxsutawneybarney"

Now stop changing the subject and answer the question, scum.bag:

So goat fucker, you're either a plagiarist or "punxsutawneybarney." So which is it, scum.bag? Take your pick.

Now lie again, scum.bag.

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At 21 September, 2012 17:17, Blogger Ian said...

I'd like to remind everyone that Brian STILL hasn't gotten a single question from the widows answered. Not one.

Maybe if Brian spent less time posting homosexual stalker spam about Willie Rodriguez all over the internet, the widows would have a few questions answered by now.

 
At 21 September, 2012 17:23, Blogger snug.bug said...

You're full of it, ButtGale. You quoted the only sentence in the whole article of which Bush is the subject. Rice is the subject in 4 sentences. And she's the object (of Tenet and Black's efforts to get her to listen) in 8 more.

The headline is "Two Months Before 9/11, an Urgent Warning to Rice". The subject of the article is Rice's lack of response to the warning.

I omitted the sentence "President Bush had said he didn't want to swat at flies" because it's meaningless. Tenet and Black don't blame Bush. They blame Rice.





 
At 21 September, 2012 17:31, Blogger Ian said...

Hey Brian, remember that time you babbled about how the US was going to invade Canada to steal all its tar sands oil?

I guess that's the kind of thing that a failed janitor who believes in magic thermite elves would expect.

 
At 21 September, 2012 17:42, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good whines, "...You're full of it, ButtGale. You quoted the only sentence in the whole article of which Bush is the subject. Rice is the subject in 4 sentences."

See? You don't know the definition of quote mining.

In order to quote mine, you must take the quote OUT OF CONTEXT--you Goddamned moron.

The quote I provided WAS PERFECTLY IN CONTEXT.

You, on the other hand, deliberately omitted the following quote:

"...Tenet and Black felt they were not getting through to Rice. She was polite, but they felt the brush-off. President Bush had said he didn't want to swat at flies." -- The Washington Post, 1 October 2006.

Thus, you and only YOU are guilty of quote mining. After all, it's the most crucial sentence in the article.

FAIL.

Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good whines, "...I omitted the sentence "President Bush had said he didn't want to swat at flies" because it's meaningless."

Bullshit!

Dr. Rice was a member of the Bush administration. Thus, she was SUBORDINATE TO GEORGE W. BUSH--you droolin' moron. Obviously, when Bush said he doesn't want to "swat at flies" THE IMPLICATIONS FOR HIS SUBORDINATE, Dr. Rice, COULDN'T BE MORE CLEAR.

George W. Bush put the brakes on the counter-terrorism activity, not Dr. Rice.

See? You can't be trusted to tell the truth.

Once again, you FAIL, goat fucker.

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At 21 September, 2012 18:05, Blogger snug.bug said...

Ian, I'm sorry you're so incompetent. You don't know what I said. Having another great night in NYC, I see.

UtterFail, you took the quote out of context. You took the only sentence of which Bush was the subject--in an article that blamed Rice--and you claimed that it showed that Bush and not Rice was at fault.

Bush said he didn't want to swat at flies. That certainly left his National Security Advisor the option of saying "Mr. President, this is not a fly." She didn't.

I can't fathom why you guys invent these bizarre rationalizations for your distorted views.

 
At 21 September, 2012 18:26, Blogger GuitarBill said...

You're shitting your pants, aren't you--you lying scumbag?

Your argument is destroyed and you're too stupid and arrogant to realize the you've been smashed again, fruitcake.

It sucks to be you, loser.

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At 21 September, 2012 18:31, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 21 September, 2012 18:32, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, the article blames Rice. Its title is "The headline is "Two Months Before 9/11, an Urgent Warning to Rice". Its subject is Rice's failure to respond to the warning.

Clearly Tenet and Black blame Rice.
You took the Bush quote out of context. You got a thing for gap-toothed lesbian torturers in boots or something?

 
At 21 September, 2012 18:32, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good whines, "...you took the quote out of context. You took the only sentence of which Bush was the subject--in an article that blamed Rice--and you claimed that it showed that Bush and not Rice was at fault."

You don't know the definition of the word CONTEXT, do you, cretin?

Context n. 1. The part of a text or statement that surrounds a particular word or passage and determines its meaning. 2. The circumstances in which an event occurs; a setting.

I quoted the ENTIRE paragraph; thus, the CONTEXT IS PRESERVED.

"...Tenet and Black felt they were not getting through to Rice. She was polite, but they felt the brush-off. President Bush had said he didn't want to swat at flies." -- The Washington Post, 1 October 2006.

See? You don't know the definition of the word CONTEXT any more than you understand the definition of the term quote mining.

Is it any wonder why logic is beyond you?

Once again, you FAIL, goat fucker.

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At 21 September, 2012 20:24, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The gentle reader will ask, "Why is Brian Good constantly wrong"?

That's a very good question, and I believe I have the answer.

Brian Good suffers from Dunning-–Kruger effect, which is defined as follows:

"...The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes."

Fro more information, see the following links:

The Anosognosic’s Dilemma: Something’s Wrong but You’ll Never Know What It Is (Part 1)

Unskilled and unaware of it: How difficulties in recognizing one's own incompetence lead to inflated self-assessments

Why the unskilled are unaware: Further explorations of (absent) self-insight among the incompetent

Yep, that's the problem in a nutshell.

What a charming combination. A psychopath who also suffers from Dunning-Kruger effect.

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At 21 September, 2012 20:30, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, I'm sorry you're so incompetent. You don't know what I said.

Poor Brian. He's such a pathetic, hysterical liar that he pretends he didn't post delusional dumbspam that everyone here saw. It's as funny as his attempt to pretend he's not petgoat.

Having another great night in NYC, I see.

And I see Brian is humiliated by my pointing out that he has no friends, no family, and spends every lonely night posting dumbspam about 9/11.

You got a thing for gap-toothed lesbian torturers in boots or something?

Yup, Brian's lust for Rice is just as disturbing as his lust for Rodriguez, Carol Brouillet, and Laurie Van Auken.

Ever notice how Brian sexualizes every one of his obsessions?

You're quite the disgusting pervert Brian, even without the women's underwear.

 
At 21 September, 2012 21:05, Blogger SnowCrash said...

So, I'm wondering: if Brian the troll says anything, would you guys all be against it just because Brian's such a dick? I know it's tempting..

 
At 21 September, 2012 21:09, Blogger SnowCrash said...

And, just for the record: I have huge problems with many of the things this blog is saying but it seems we all agree Brian Good is a dick.

And I would like to apologize to William Rodriguez for it, by the way. I and I reckon most truthers do not in any way support Brian Good's stalker insanity. Just so we're clear on that. The creep is banned everywhere, it appears there is a debunker/truther consensus that Brian needs help.

 
At 22 September, 2012 03:54, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

if Brian the troll says anything, would you guys all be against it just because Brian's such a dick?

I don't get it Michiel. You're every bit as contrarian and arrogant and argumentative as Brian. Has TruthAction been more productive since you had him banned?

 
At 22 September, 2012 08:22, Blogger SnowCrash said...

"I don't get it Michiel. You're every bit as contrarian and arrogant and argumentative as Brian. Has TruthAction been more productive since you had him banned?"

Yes.

That doesn't answer my question to you though.

 
At 22 September, 2012 08:32, Blogger snug.bug said...

SnowCrash, somebody has got to be a dick, and all I see around here is weenies.

 
At 22 September, 2012 09:09, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

Yes.

If you say so. Looks like infighting as usual to me over there.

That doesn't answer my question to you though.

Speaking only for myself, I think Brian raises interesting points once in a while. The reason I find it unproductive to engage him is that he spends most of his time playing devil's advocate by his own invented rules (e.g., 1700 is a significant number if you first convert it to 3.5 million).

But that's just me. Some people enjoy rubbing his nose in his numerous errors.

 
At 22 September, 2012 09:23, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "Poster Child for Dunning-Kruger" Good whines, "...SnowCrash, somebody has got to be a dick, and all I see around here is [SIC] weenies."

Perhaps you should extract your head from your ass.

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At 22 September, 2012 09:31, Blogger snug.bug said...

Silly ButtGale, he thinks his ass is my ass, and thinks my foot is my head.

 
At 22 September, 2012 09:44, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "Poster Child for Dunning-Kruger" Good whines, "...he thinks his ass is my ass, and thinks my foot is my head."

Wrong again, fool. In fact, I know your head is in your ass, "punxsutawneybarney."

Now stop changing the subject and answer the question, scum.bag:

So goat fucker, you're either a plagiarist or "punxsutawneybarney." So which is it, scum.bag? Take your pick.

Oh, that's right! You're so insane that you'll continue to lie even when caught red-handed.

Should we expect less from a compulsive liar? Probably not.

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At 22 September, 2012 09:46, Blogger snug.bug said...

I guess the possibility didn't occur to you that maybe punx is plagiarizing ME? No, that didn't occur to you.

 
At 22 September, 2012 09:49, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Yeah, sure. Whatever you say, Pinocchio. "punxsutawneybarney" is plagiarizing you.

By the way, goat fucker, does the word mythomaniac mean anything to you?

And remember, I'm just asking questions...

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At 22 September, 2012 10:13, Blogger snug.bug said...

Sure, mythomania is what you've got. How's that Wayne Newton thing working out for you?

 
At 22 September, 2012 10:28, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Yeah right! Tell us, how many times were you caught lying in this thread alone?

Oh, that's right! Your Dunning-Kruger doesn't allow you to admit when you're full-of-shit.

"...I self-critique constantly, RGT. That's why I'm never wrong." -- snug.bug

Yeah! No Dunning-Kruger there. Right, "punxsutawneybarney"?

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At 22 September, 2012 11:18, Blogger barogers619 said...

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At 22 September, 2012 13:28, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, I didn't lie any times on this thread or any other thread.

I see SnowCrash seemed determined on the other thread to demonstrate his confusion and poor judgment.

Willie has no cause to sue me, because truth is an absolute defense. He's a fraud. That's a fact. He went around the world telling an impossible hero story and asking for money. I can prove that old Jiggle-cheeks is a fraud, and he can't prove his hero tale.

His website used to feature the false claim that he "single-handedly rescued fifteen (15) persons" right next to a PayPal button. Willie didn't single-handedly rescue anybody.

Now his website claims he "initially rescued fifteen (15) persons". And no longer has the PayPal button. I guess he figured he could either make the lying claims OR ask for money, not both. Presumably he wasn't getting anything from the PayPal anymore anyway.









 
At 22 September, 2012 13:57, Blogger snug.bug said...

What happened to old Jiggle-cheeks, anyway? Last I heard from him he was bragging about all the news coverage he was going to get. I tried to find the news coverage and couldn't find anything. Huffington post mentioned his name in passing as a survivor, but I couldn't find any interview. Somebody posted something on Digital Journal about an old video Luke Rudkowsky posted about Willie. And American Free Press mentioned Willie twice in its 9/11 anniversary issue.

That's it. He couldn't even get his old buddies at Russia Today to interview him? Poor Willie. He's so 2007.

 
At 22 September, 2012 15:29, Blogger SnowCrash said...

I see SnowCrash seemed determined on the other thread to demonstrate his confusion and poor judgment.



Actually, I was about to respond to RGT that he was right: libel is not a criminal offense except for these states:



At the federal level, there are no criminal defamation or insult laws in the United States. However, on the state level, 19 states and 2 territories as of 2005 had criminal defamation laws on the books: Colorado (Colorado Revised Statutes, § 18-13-105), Florida (Florida Statutes, § 836.01-836.11), Georgia, (O.C.G.A. § 16-11-40), Idaho (Idaho Code, § 18-4801-18-4809), Kansas (Kansas Statute Annotated, §21-4004), Louisiana (Louisiana R.S., 14:47), Michigan (Michigan Compiled Laws, § 750.370), Minnesota (Minnesota Statutes. § 609.765), Montana (Montana Code Annotated, § 13-35-234), Nevada (Nevada Revised Statutes §§ 200.510-200.560), New Hampshire (New Hampshire Revised Statute Annotated, § 644:11), New Mexico (New Mexico Statute Annotated, §30-11-1), North Carolina (North Carolina General Statutes, § 14-47), North Dakota (North Dakota Century Code, § 12.1-15-01), Oklahoma (Oklahoma Statutes, tit. 27 §§ 771-781), Utah (Utah Code Annotated, § 76-9-404), Virginia (Virginia Code Annotated, § 18.2-417), Washington (Washington Revised Code, 9.58.010) (This appears to have been repealed: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/dispo.aspx?cite=9.58.010 ), Wisconsin (Wisconsin Statutes, § 942.01), Puerto Rico (Puerto Rico Laws, tit. 33, §§ 4101-4104) and Virgin Islands (Virgin Islands Code, Title 14, § 1172).[103]



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation#Criminal_defamation_3



Which makes RGT only partly right. Another thing he said is not true: I wasn't advocating jail, I am advocating you be fined.



But then, either Pat or James bravely put the thread in moderation and didn't publish my response.



If I were Willie Rodriguez, I would sue. On the other hand, being you is punishment enough.

 
At 22 September, 2012 15:58, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 22 September, 2012 16:00, Blogger snug.bug said...

SnowCrash, since you can not possibly have fact-checked Willie's story and found it to be true, it's obvious that you have not fact-checked Willie's story at all. So your yammerings about differences between civil and criminal penalties are moot. Truth is an absolute defense. To state that Willie's hero story is a lie from its fifteen rescues to the Last Man Out is not a libel, it is not an opinion, it is a proven fact. The man is a fraud.
He lied to get money.

He claimed that hundreds of people were trapped behind locked fire exit doors waiting for him to come and set them free. Every janitor, every security guard, every cop, every firefighter, every lawyer, every night-club manager, and every architect in the world knows this story is impossible.

Willie's bogus stories indict the intelligence of everyone who's dumb enough to believe them, and indict the integrity of everyone who knew he was lying but chose to keep silent about it.

Willie did enormous damage to the truth movement as he traveled around and the truthers tried to get local journalists to cover his story, informed local lawyers about the Rodriguez v. Bush lawsuit, and gifted local firefighters with the DVD. Willie made his supporters look like idiots. Journalists would find in 15 minutes research that Willie's claims were not verifiable, lawyers would find that the lawsuit was illiterate and laughable, and firefighters would see a strutting braggart stealing his glory from the dead.

 
At 22 September, 2012 16:17, Blogger GuitarBill said...

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At 22 September, 2012 16:22, Blogger GuitarBill said...

You just won't stop lying about William Rodriguez, will you, pervert?

For example, you conflate the words building and rubble to smear William Rodriguez.

Officer Lim, et al, weren't the last people to emerge from the building. After all, they WERE IN THE BUILDING DURING THE COLLAPSE. Therefore, they did NOT emerge from the BUILDING, they emerged from the RUBBLE.

Get it through your thick skull, jackass:

Building n. something built with a roof and walls, such as a house or factory.

Rubble n. A loose mass of angular fragments of rock or masonry crumbled by natural or human forces.

You're a liar who employs underhanded propaganda techniques to smear the targets of your homosexual insanity.

You have no business in polite society; you belong behind bars where you can rot with your fellow homosexual degenerates.

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At 22 September, 2012 16:34, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 22 September, 2012 16:45, Blogger snug.bug said...

It's a false distinction, ButtGirl. Willie's claim was Last Man Out. Not Last Man Out of the Intact Building Before it Fell Down. Last Man Out. He was not the last man out.

He not only stole his "Opening doors so the people could escape" story from the dead, but he stole his "Last Man Out" story from the living.
He's a scumbag.

 
At 22 September, 2012 17:19, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "Poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect" Good lies, "...Willie's claim was Last Man Out. Not Last Man Out of the Intact Building Before it Fell Down. Last Man Out. He was not the last man out."

And what do I get in response? More underhanded propaganda techniques.

The "distinction"--you lying homosexual degenerate--is not based on William Rodriguez' "claim." The distinction--you jackass--is a matter of logic.

If you're inside a building and it collapses. if you're lucky enough to survive the collapse, you will not emerge from the "building," you will emerge from the rubble.

Since you were in the building during the collapse, you can't possibly be the "last person out," or the "last person out of the building." Thus, Officer Lim, et al, and Josephine Harris did NOT emerge from the BUILDING, they emerged from the RUBBLE.

Your claim, moreover, is false. You claim--and I quote: "Willie's claim was Last Man Out."

That claim is FALSE, as the following passage from William's website proves beyond a doubt--and I quote:

"...Rodriguez, at great risk to his own life, re-entered the Towers three times after the first, North Tower impact at about 8:46 A.M., and is believed to be the last person to exit the North Tower alive, surviving the building's collapse by diving beneath a fire truck." -- an excerpt from William Rodriguez' william911.com

Keep reading the part that says "and is believed to be the last person to exit the North Tower alive" until it penetrates your 8' thick, steel-reinforced concrete skull. As everyone can see, you are deliberately misrepresenting William's words in service to your deranged homosexual smear propaganda.

See? You're a liar who can't be trusted to tell the truth.

Should we expect less from an insane homosexual mythomaniac? Probably not.

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At 22 September, 2012 17:35, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Now make sure to lecture us about quote mining. Okay, scum.bag?

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At 22 September, 2012 17:37, Blogger snug.bug said...

You're just trying to lawyer away the fact that Willie steals his glory from the living and the dead.

The distinction between the building and the rubble is false because Willie does not make that distinction. He does not say "Last Man Out of the Building". He says "Last Man Out".

When Willie left the building, others were behind him on the stairway. They got out after he did. Thus his claim that he was the Last Man Out is a lie.

Willie has made a fool of you with his blatant lies. The people were not locked in. It's impossible.


 
At 22 September, 2012 17:49, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "Poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect" Good "...The distinction between the building and the rubble is false because Willie does not make that distinction. He does not say 'Last Man Out of the Building'. He says 'Last Man Out'."

You didn't read a word of what I wrote, did you, goat fucker?

Again, you claim--and I quote: "Willie's claim was Last Man Out."

That claim is FALSE, as the following passage from William's website proves beyond a doubt--and I quote:

"...Rodriguez, at great risk to his own life, re-entered the Towers three times after the first, North Tower impact at about 8:46 A.M., and is believed to be the last person to exit the North Tower alive, surviving the building's collapse by diving beneath a fire truck." -- an excerpt from William Rodriguez' william911.com.

William NEVER said the word "out." He said--and I quote: "and is believed to be the last person to exit the North Tower alive."

Thus, your fallacious argument is premised on a straw man argument. You deliberately twist his words beyond recognition in service to your insane homosexual smear propaganda, and then you attack your twisted interpretation of his words. Thus, your argument is a textbook example of a straw man argument.

See? You're a liar who can't be trusted to tell the truth.

Should we expect less from an insane homosexual mythomaniac? Probably not.

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At 22 September, 2012 18:09, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, obviously Willie has edited his website since the glory days when he was claiming that he singlehandedly rescued 15, claimed he saved hundreds, and claimed he was the Last Man Out.

At one point he even claimed he was The Last Survivor. If you would do even a little bit of research you would know this.

 
At 22 September, 2012 18:21, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "Poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect" Good lies, "...obviously Willie has edited his website since the glory days when he was claiming that he singlehandedly [SIC] rescued 15, claimed he saved hundreds, and claimed he was the Last Man Out."

And here, folks, we see Brian Good's Dunning-Kruger effect
bias on full display.

The goat fucker was caught red-handed using a straw man argument to attack William Rodriguez. Does the goat fucker acknowledge his dishonesty or apologize? Hell, no! Instead, HE MOVES THE GOAL POST AND CHANGES THE SUBJECT.

Furthermore, you're citing yourself as an authority while you fail to provide so much as a scintilla of evidence to support your claim that "Willie has edited his website since the glory days."

You wouldn't happen to have any evidence to substantiate that 100% fact-free nonsense, would you, goat fucker?

I won't hold my breath waiting for your evidence.

Face it, goat fucker, you don't have a shred of credible evidence to substantiate your insane homosexual smear propaganda.

As I said before, lies simply can't be substantiated.

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At 22 September, 2012 18:31, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, you obviously can't be bothered to do a little bit of homework.

Have you ever heard of a guy named Gravy? Here are two quotes from Willie that Gravy cites.

“Not only was I there, but I’m actually the last survivor from the north tower that was pulled from the rubble.”

“Hi, I'm William Rodriguez. I'm not with the FDNY. Actually I’m the last survivor pulled from the rubble.”

So you see, not only is Willie R not distinguishing between the building and rubble, he's claiming he was the last man out of the rubble.

JiggleCheeks is a lying scumbag, and you're a fool to believe his nonsense.

 
At 22 September, 2012 18:32, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...I self-critique constantly, RGT. That's why I'm never wrong." -- snug.bug

So goat fucker, if you "self-critique constantly" why did you fail to acknowledge your dishonesty when you were caught red-handed using a straw man argument to attack William Rodriguez?

I guess you were lying when you claimed to "self-critique constantly." Right, Pinocchio.

Or does your Dunning-Kruger bias prevent you from acknowledging your dishonesty and incompetence?


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At 22 September, 2012 18:37, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "Poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect" Good whines, "...Have you ever heard of a guy named Gravy?"

Yeah, as I stated years ago, Mark Roberts is just as full-of-shit as you, goat fucker.

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At 22 September, 2012 18:43, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...Rodriguez, at great risk to his own life, re-entered the Towers three times after the first, North Tower impact at about 8:46 A.M., and is believed to be the last person to exit the North Tower alive, surviving the building's collapse by diving beneath a fire truck." -- William Rodriguez

He very likely was the last person out of the North Tower, and he was pulled from the rubble.

So how did he "lie"?

If you're looking for a liar, have a nice long look in the mirror.

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At 22 September, 2012 18:46, Blogger snug.bug said...

He lied when he claimed he was the last survivor. You're not very smart, are you?

 
At 22 September, 2012 18:50, Blogger GuitarBill said...

There's only one problem: You haven't proven anything.

How many times must I tell you that your twisted perception isn't reality?

Impervious to logic and real knowledge, aren't you, "punxsutawneybarney"?

You're not very honest, are you?

Should we expect less from a mythomaniac? Probably not.

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At 22 September, 2012 18:53, Blogger GuitarBill said...

And goat fucker, once again, you deliberately avoided my questions:

"...I self-critique constantly, RGT. That's why I'm never wrong." -- snug.bug

So goat fucker, if you "self-critique constantly" why did you fail to acknowledge your dishonesty when you were caught red-handed using a straw man argument to attack William Rodriguez?

I guess you were lying when you claimed to "self-critique constantly." Right, Pinocchio.

Or does your Dunning-Kruger bias prevent you from acknowledging your dishonesty and incompetence?

Now CHANGE THE SUBJECT and MOVE THE GOAL POST AGAIN, Pinocchio.

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At 23 September, 2012 07:19, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, I've proven that Willie not only claimed he was the last man out of the intact building but claimed he was the last survivor pulled from the rubble as well.

Your hysterical defenses of a lying con artist are noted.

 
At 23 September, 2012 07:37, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 23 September, 2012 09:07, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, pointing out the Bush administrations' incompetence DOES make one a troofer, because the obvious bipartisan agenda of the official investigations has been to try to cover up the Bush Administration's incompetence.

Uncovering the facts of what happened on 9/11 is what the Truth movement is all about.

 
At 23 September, 2012 14:46, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

What you need to understand is Wille Rodriguez is Brian's Achilles Heel.

Brian's mental illness was revealed when he became jealous of how Carol Brouillet liked Willie more than him. He became unglued.

Brian needs Willie to be a fraud because like everything else 9/11 he has put so much time into his fantasy the fact that he is wrong eats away it him.

Brian knows he's a clown. Brian knows he will never be anything more than a lazy, third-rate hack at whatever he does.

Willie Rodriguez's very existence simply emphasized the depth of his failures in every way a man can fail.

 
At 23 September, 2012 15:27, Blogger Ian said...

Well, I see Brian spent another weekend posting homosexual sqealspam about the man he called a "strutting, bragging, lyning, hot sexy hunk of Latin manhood", Willie Rodriguez.

I'd say that Brian should do more with his weekend, but he has no job, so he has nothing to do but post homosexual squealspam during the week too.

Of course, Brian could actually try to get the widows' questions answered, but that would require actual work beyond spamming Youtube and this blog, and Brian clearly doesn't have the mental capacity for such work, given that he can't even mop floors competently.

 
At 23 September, 2012 15:29, Blogger Ian said...

Uncovering the facts of what happened on 9/11 is what the Truth movement is all about.

The facts have been uncovered. Yet you continue to squeal hysterically because the government won't investigate your claims about magic thermite elves.

 
At 23 September, 2012 17:00, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 23 September, 2012 19:48, Blogger snug.bug said...

MGF, Wille Rodriguez is nobody's Achilles Heel but his own. If you would spend ten minutes examining his story instead of indulging in effete psychobabble you would see it's impossible. If he saved hundreds on 39 floors, then hundreds more on the 50 floors above his should have died. They didn't. He lied. It's as simple as that.

I don't need Willie to be a fraud.
He is a fraud.

Ian, your made-up quotes are childish, and fool only children.

The facts have not been uncovered. The new PDBs, for example, we have not seen. The 28 pages redacted in the original congressional report we have not seen. NIST has not explained the how the collapsed, or the pulverization of the concrete.

 
At 24 September, 2012 04:39, Blogger Ian said...

MGF, Wille Rodriguez is nobody's Achilles Heel but his own. If you would spend ten minutes examining his story instead of indulging in effete psychobabble you would see it's impossible. If he saved hundreds on 39 floors, then hundreds more on the 50 floors above his should have died. They didn't. He lied. It's as simple as that.

Poor Brian. He's hysterical because Rodriguez is a hero while Brian is a failed janitor who has been banned from the truth movement for being a liar and a lunatic.

Ian, your made-up quotes are childish, and fool only children.

Squeal squeal squeal!

Brian is hysterical because I've pointed out his homosexual lust for Rodriguez.

The facts have not been uncovered. The new PDBs, for example, we have not seen. The 28 pages redacted in the original congressional report we have not seen. NIST has not explained the how the collapsed, or the pulverization of the concrete.

I already told you that the government is not interested in investigating the delusions of a mentally ill unemployed janitor.

 
At 24 September, 2012 08:01, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 24 September, 2012 08:24, Blogger snug.bug said...

Ian, you are simply being contrary. Are you claiming that Fraudriguez's claims are true? Nobody is willing to do that--not even SnowCrash, and not even the "hero" himself. ButtGale tried to claim that Last Man Out was true until I showed that JiggleCheeks had claimed not just that he was the last man out of the intact building, but that he was the Last Survivor Pulled from the Rubble.

Are you claiming that we have seen the new PDBs discussed recently in the NYT op-ed? Are you claiming that we have seen the 28 pages redacted in the original congressional report? Are you claiming that NIST has explained how the building collapsed? Are you claiming that they explained the pulverization of the concrete? Does it not trouble you that you can not back up any of those claims?

Why do you lie and lie and lie about 9/11? What is wrong with you?

 
At 24 September, 2012 09:42, Blogger GuitarBill said...

So "punxsutawneybarney," why was Cofer Black recommended for possible disciplinary action for refusing to notify the FBI prior to 9/11 that several of bin Laden's henchmen were known to have entered the U.S.?

Ex-Counterterrorism Czar Accuses CIA Of Trying To “Flip” 9/11 Hijackers.

Nah, Cofer Black, the CIA operative who oversaw the development and implementation of "enhanced interrogation" techniques, extraordinary renditions, CIA "black sites," and "disappearances" around the world would never lie and try to blame Dr. Rice for his own failure, now would he?

Obviously, Cofer Black is evil.

So why would anyone believe a word that emanates from Cofer Black's lying maw?

Oh, that's right! Anything that agrees with the goat fucker's insane homosexual smear propaganda is unquestionably true, and anything that refutes your asinine conspiracy nonsense is "incomplete, unscientific and unbelievable."

So why should anyone believe Cofer Black?

Your "source" isn't worth a hill of beans.

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At 24 September, 2012 10:08, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, the possibility that the CIA lied about the briefings to Condi occurred to me years ago. But if they did lie, Dr. Rice's failure to defend herself makes her complicit in the lie.

That many PDBs warn of upcoming attacks by al Qaeda makes the question moot. Even if they lied about the briefing, the warnings are in the PDBs. And we know Condi lied under oath about the August 6 PDB "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US".



 
At 24 September, 2012 10:36, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Don't change the subject, "punxsutawneybarney." You have no evidence against Dr. Rice as the revelations I provide above proves beyond a doubt.

I asked you a direct question.

So why should anyone believe Cofer Black when he was recommended for possible disciplinary action for refusing to notify the FBI prior to 9/11 that several of bin Laden's henchmen were known to have entered the U.S.?

Why should we believe a torturer who failed to notify the FBI?

Why should we believe a CIA black ops specialist who has AMPLE MOTIVE TO BLAME DR. RICE FOR HIS FAILURE TO NOTIFY THE FBI AND AVOID EXPOSURE OF HIS OWN INCOMPETENCE AND POSSIBLE MALFEASANCE?

Now STOP changing the Goddamned subject and answer the question.

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At 24 September, 2012 10:42, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...As head of the CIA’s Counterterrorism Center following 9/11, Black supervised the agency’s “extraordinary rendition” program, which illegally transported alleged terrorists to secret detention centers abroad, where they were tortured." -- The Nation: Mitt Romney's Neocon War Cabinet.

Nothing to see here, folks, move along.

Do you cite Henry Kissinger as a font of "truth," too--you lying Log Cabin Republican scumbag?

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At 24 September, 2012 10:51, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...In a recently aired video interview with filmmakers John Duffy and Ray Nowosielski, Richard Clarke, the former counterterrorism "czar" who resigned during the Bush administration, charged former CIA director George Tenet and top CIA officials Cofer Black and Richard Blee with suppressing information about al-Mihdhar's intent to enter the United States after the Malaysia meeting. The CIA deliberately had withheld cables to the FBI about al-Mihdhar entering the United States and failed to notify the State Department to put him and his traveling companion on the State Department watch list." -- More Evidence of Water Torture "Depravity" in Rumsfeld's Military

Nothing to see here, folks, move along.

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At 24 September, 2012 10:54, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, As I explained, it doesn't matter if Cofer Black was lying. Your inability to perceive that the warnings in the PDBs are evidence against Dr. KindaLiesaLot Rice, and her lies under oath are evidence against her, only shows your incompetence.

You seem to think that recrimination is sufficient defense. You're not very smart.


 
At 24 September, 2012 10:56, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Bullshit!

Cofer Black "failed to notify the State Department to put him and his traveling companion on the State Department watch list"?!?!?!?!?!?

And who was the head of the State Department? And why was Cofer Black was so careful to keep her "out of the loop"?

Oh what a terrible web we weave when at first we practice to deceive.

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At 24 September, 2012 10:59, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Now dig your heels in, goat fucker, CHANGE THE SUBJECT and continue to tell the same lies as though I didn't blow a hole a mile wide in your argument.

You're a liar and a racist.

FAIL.

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At 24 September, 2012 11:03, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Dr. Rice didn't lie under oath. Cofer Black lied under oath.

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At 24 September, 2012 11:06, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Now answer the question, scumbag:

Who was the head of the State Department? And why was Cofer Black so careful to keep her "out of the loop"?

Lie to us, nutbag.

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At 24 September, 2012 11:08, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, your defenses of KindaLiesaLot Rice are as bogus and unintelligent as your defenses of Willie Fraudriguez.

Condi was hardly left out of the loop when many PDBs warned of upcoming attacks.

She lied under oath when she told the 9/11 Commission (twice!) that the "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US" memo was not a warning. It warned of preparations for hijackings and planned attacks inside the USA. Her buddy Philip Zelikow was overheard asking the CIA authors of the memo to validate Condi's characterization of it, and they refused.

 
At 24 September, 2012 11:14, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Stop changing the Goddamned subject.

There's not a shred of credible evidence to prove that Dr. Rice lied under oath. If she lied under oath, why wasn't she disciplined? The answer is simple: She didn't lie under oath.

Again,

"...In a recently aired video interview with filmmakers John Duffy and Ray Nowosielski, Richard Clarke, the former counterterrorism "czar" who resigned during the Bush administration, charged former CIA director George Tenet and top CIA officials Cofer Black and Richard Blee with suppressing information about al-Mihdhar's intent to enter the United States after the Malaysia meeting. The CIA deliberately had withheld cables to the FBI about al-Mihdhar entering the United States and failed to notify the State Department to put him and his traveling companion on the State Department watch list." -- More Evidence of Water Torture "Depravity" in Rumsfeld's Military

Who was the head of the State Department? And why was Cofer Black so careful to keep her "out of the loop"?

Now continue to pettifog, scumbag.

Why are you trying to protect a torturer and black ops specialist who lied under oath to the Congress?

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At 24 September, 2012 11:24, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, if you would bother to read the transcript of Dr. Rice's statement to the 9/11 Commission, and if you would bother to read the document she was talking about, you'll see that she lied. She said it was not a warning. It was a warning.

You have no evidence that Cofer Black kept Condi out of the loop. You have no evidence that Black had the power to keep Condi out of the loop. You're just going "poof poof poof".

 
At 24 September, 2012 11:29, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Bullshit!

Why was Cofer Black recommended for possible disciplinary action for refusing to notify the FBI prior to 9/11 that several of bin Laden's henchmen were known to have entered the U.S.?

THAT IS A FACT, GOAT FUCKER.

If Dr. Rice lied under oath to the Congress, why was she never charged with perjury? Thus, you HAVE NO PROOF WHATSOEVER THAT DR. RICE LIED TO CONGRESS.

Who was the head of the State Department? And why was Cofer Black so careful to keep her "out of the loop"?

Why are you trying to protect a torturer and black ops specialist who lied under oath to the Congress?

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At 24 September, 2012 11:35, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...On August 25, 2005, the Associated Press’ Katherine Shrader revealed that CIA Inspector John Helgerson’s then-classified report 'recommended disciplinary reviews' for Black, Tenet, and former clandestine service head Jim Pavett. 'The former officials are likely candidates for proceedings before an accountability board,' Shrader wrote. Tenet’s successor, Porter Goss, took no disciplinary action." -- J. Cofer Black Should Make Voters See Red?

Now lie to us again, scumbag.

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At 24 September, 2012 11:39, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, do you deny that George W. Bush violated the laws by aggressively invading other countries without good cause, by torturing prisoners, and by engaging in wiretaps without warrents?

The proof that Rice lied under oath is obvious. Do you deny that she said the Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US memo was not a warning? Do you deny that it was a warning?

You have not shown that Cofer Black had the power to keep Dr. Rice out of the loop, let alone that he did so.

You substitute attitude for substance, and discredit your own argument.

 
At 24 September, 2012 11:44, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Don't CHANGE THE SUBJECT, GOAT FUCKER. You're dancing around like a fag on a hot-tin roof. And we all know you're lying when you start dancing around like a fag.

Answer the Goddamned questions:

Why was Cofer Black recommended for possible disciplinary action for refusing to notify the FBI prior to 9/11 that several of bin Laden's henchmen were known to have entered the U.S.?

If Dr. Rice lied under oath to the Congress, why was she never charged with perjury? Thus, you HAVE NO PROOF WHATSOEVER THAT DR. RICE LIED TO CONGRESS.

Who was the head of the State Department? And why was Cofer Black so careful to keep her "out of the loop"?

Why are you trying to protect a torturer and black ops specialist who lied under oath to the Congress?

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At 24 September, 2012 11:52, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, your pretense that the case against Condi rests on Cofer Black is silly. Read her testimony.
read the document. She lied.

My questions are pertinent, yours are not. I can show how they're pertinent.

Do you deny that George W. Bush violated the laws by aggressively invading other countries without good cause, by torturing prisoners, and by engaging in wiretaps without warrents?

Do you deny that Rice swore that the Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US memo was not a warning? Do you deny that it was a warning?

You have not shown that Cofer Black had the power to keep Dr. Rice out of the loop, let alone that he did so.

You substitute attitude for substance, and discredit your own argument. You're only demonstrating your own ignorance and stupidity.

 
At 24 September, 2012 12:05, Blogger GuitarBill said...

You haven't proven a Goddamned thing. You opinion isn't proof of anything.

OBVIOUSLY, Dr. Rice was NEVER CHARGED WITH PERJURY.

Cofer Black, on the other hand, was "recommended disciplinary review"

...On August 25, 2005, the Associated Press’ Katherine Shrader revealed that CIA Inspector John Helgerson’s then-classified report 'recommended disciplinary reviews' for Black, Tenet, and former clandestine service head Jim Pavett. 'The former officials are likely candidates for proceedings before an accountability board,' Shrader wrote. Tenet’s successor, Porter Goss, took no disciplinary action." -- J. Cofer Black Should Make Voters See Red

Obviously, Cofer Black was under suspicion, not Dr. Rice.

Answer the Goddamned questions:

Why was Cofer Black recommended for possible disciplinary action for refusing to notify the FBI prior to 9/11 that several of bin Laden's henchmen were known to have entered the U.S.?

If Dr. Rice lied under oath to the Congress, why was she never charged with perjury? Thus, you HAVE NO PROOF WHATSOEVER THAT DR. RICE LIED TO CONGRESS.

Who was the head of the State Department? And why was Cofer Black so careful to keep her "out of the loop"?

Why are you trying to protect a torturer and black ops specialist who lied under oath to the Congress?

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At 24 September, 2012 12:29, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...In January 2001, the CIA tied Mihdhar to 'Khallad,' an al-Qaeda agent who bombed the U.S.S. Cole in Yemen in October 2000. 'Yet we found no effort by the CIA to renew the long-abandoned search for Mihdhar or his travel companions,' the 9-11 Commission concluded (page 266). It added, CIA director George 'Tenet and Cofer Black testified before Congress’s Joint Inquiry into 9/11 that the FBI had access to this identification from the beginning. But drawing on an extensive record…we conclude this was not the case.'" -- J. Cofer Black Should Make Voters See Red.

Obviously, it was Cofer Black who withheld information form the FBI.

Dr. Rice, on the other hand, was never changed with perjury.

Your entire "theory," as usual, is a pile of lies by omission.

Now, answer the Goddamned questions:

Why was Cofer Black recommended for possible disciplinary action for refusing to notify the FBI prior to 9/11 that several of bin Laden's henchmen were known to have entered the U.S.?

If Dr. Rice lied under oath to the Congress, why was she never charged with perjury? Thus, you HAVE NO PROOF WHATSOEVER THAT DR. RICE LIED TO CONGRESS.

Who was the head of the State Department? And why was Cofer Black so careful to keep her "out of the loop"?

Why are you trying to protect a torturer and black ops specialist who lied under oath to the Congress?

FAIL.

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At 24 September, 2012 12:31, Blogger snug.bug said...

Q: Why was Cofer Black recommended for possible disciplinary action for refusing to notify the FBI prior to 9/11 that several of bin Laden's henchmen were known to have entered the U.S.? A: Because he refused to notify the FBI prior to 9/11 that several of bin Laden's henchmen were known to have entered the U.S. Of course this has nothing to do with the fact that Condi lied under oath to the 9/11 Commission.


Q: If Dr. Rice lied under oath to the Congress, why was she never charged with perjury? A: Because nobody in the Bush administration with the exception of Scooter Libby was held accountable for anything. So this in no way refutes the fact that Condi lied under oath to the 9/11 Commission.

Q: Who was the head of the State Department? A: Colin Powell, as any fool knows, was Sec'y of State before Condi. Of course this has nothing to do with the fact that Condi lied under oath to the 9/11 Commission.

Q: And why was Cofer Black so careful to keep her "out of the loop"? A: You have not demonstrated that Black did keep her out of the loop, or even had the power to do so. Of course this has nothing to do with the fact that Condi lied under oath to the 9/11 Commission.

Q: Why are you trying to protect a torturer and black ops specialist who lied under oath to the Congress? A: I'm not protecting anybody. You are. You're protecting the perjurer and torturer Dr. Condoleezza Rice.






 
At 24 September, 2012 12:42, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Idiot lies, "...Of course this has nothing to do with the fact that Condi lied under oath to the 9/11 Commission."

You haven't proven that Dr. Rice lied to anyone, including the commission.

Lying to Congress is a serious crime. Yet, she was never placed under suspicion or charged with perjury.

Why is that, liar?

The facts simply don't support your idiotic opinion.

And your "answers" are not answers at all.

It was Black who withheld information from the FBI. And I quote:

"...In January 2001, the CIA tied Mihdhar to 'Khallad,' an al-Qaeda agent who bombed the U.S.S. Cole in Yemen in October 2000. 'Yet we found no effort by the CIA to renew the long-abandoned search for Mihdhar or his travel companions,' the 9-11 Commission concluded (page 266). It added, CIA director George 'Tenet and Cofer Black testified before Congress’s Joint Inquiry into 9/11 that the FBI had access to this identification from the beginning. But drawing on an extensive record…we conclude this was not the case.'" -- J. Cofer Black Should Make Voters See Red.

Tenet is liar; JC Black is a liar; and Jim Pavett is a liar.

In fact, the only people who misled Congress are Tenet and Black. The coverup (CYA) was orchestrated by Porter Goss, who refused to pursue the issue.

Now, stop lying and pettifogging and answer the Goddamned questions:

Why was Cofer Black recommended for possible disciplinary action for refusing to notify the FBI prior to 9/11 that several of bin Laden's henchmen were known to have entered the U.S.?

If Dr. Rice lied under oath to the Congress, why was she never charged with perjury? Thus, you HAVE NO PROOF WHATSOEVER THAT DR. RICE LIED TO CONGRESS.

Who was the head of the State Department? And why was Cofer Black so careful to keep her "out of the loop"?

Why are you trying to protect a torturer and black ops specialist who lied under oath to the Congress?

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At 24 September, 2012 12:49, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, you just deny facts like Ian does, and you're not fooling anybody any more than he is.

The 9/11 Commission was an independent bipartisan commission, not a congressional investigation.

I already answered your silly questions, and for you to pretend that I didn't only makes you look stupider.

 
At 24 September, 2012 12:51, Blogger Pat Cowardly said...

It looks like SnowCrash, the "Blizzard of Oz", is reduced to a meaningless flurry again, and he's De Boering everyone to death as usual.

You seem to enjoy throwing public tantrums to get attention. That's why you make so many friends at Blogger and JREF. Allow me to quote from your whining bullshit back in March:

"It will be an absolute bloodbath, and on the front line, slaughtering civilians, will be an unholy alliance of M-16 wielding, grimacing "anti-socialist", "anti-NWO" corporate schlong sucking sociopaths from the Tea Party, Ron Paul/AJ camp and the 'Oath Keepers' blah blah blah..."

What was the point of that childish, alarmist vitriol? Can you point out where the critical thinking and technical acumen can be found in it? How about anything of use at all? One might even think you were trying to incite something, but no one's dumb enough to take the bait.

Posting your precious 'animated GIF' didn't prove Bazant correct in the previous thread, and you fled from answering any questions about how your 'calcs' override the expertise of 1700+ professionals. Is it too soon to just call you SnowCass, or are you going to act like an adult?

 
At 24 September, 2012 12:55, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...the threat reporting that we received in the spring and summer of 2001 was not specific as to time nor place nor manner of attack. Almost all the reports focused on al Qaeda activities outside the United States." -- Condoleezza Rice

This, in your idiotic opinion is "specific"?!?!?!?!?!?

"...FBI information... indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country, consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attack." -- bin Laden determined to strike the US.

So based on that vague assessment, how do you come to the conclusion that Dr. Rice "lied to the commission"?

You're full-of-shit.

Now, stop lying and pettifogging and answer the Goddamned questions:

Why was Cofer Black recommended for possible disciplinary action for refusing to notify the FBI prior to 9/11 that several of bin Laden's henchmen were known to have entered the U.S.?

If Dr. Rice lied under oath to the Congress, why was she never charged with perjury? Thus, you HAVE NO PROOF WHATSOEVER THAT DR. RICE LIED TO CONGRESS.

Who was the head of the State Department? And why was Cofer Black so careful to keep her "out of the loop"?

Why are you trying to protect a torturer and black ops specialist who lied under oath to the Congress?

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At 24 September, 2012 13:21, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Idiot lies, "...The 9/11 Commission was an independent bipartisan commission, not a congressional investigation."

Bullshit! She testified UNDER OATH.

"...National security adviser Condoleezza Rice testified Thursday under oath and in public before the independent National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States investigating the attacks of September 11, 2001." -- CNN

See? You can't be trusted to tell the truth--ever.

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At 24 September, 2012 13:26, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Here's more proof that you're full-of-shit.

"The terrorists were at war with us, but we were not yet at war with them. For more than 20 years, the terrorist threat gathered, and America's response across several administrations of both parties was insufficient. Historically, democratic societies have been slow to react to gathering threats, tending instead to wait to confront threats until they are too dangerous to ignore or until it is too late....Despite the sinking of the Lusitania in 1915 and continued German harassment of American shipping, the United States did not enter the First World War until two years later. Despite Nazi Germany's repeated violations of the Versailles Treaty and its string of provocations throughout the mid-1930s, the Western democracies did not take action until 1939." -- Condoleezza Rice

Nothing to see here, folks, move along.

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At 24 September, 2012 13:36, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Here's what Dr. Rice said about the threat posed by Al Qaeda.

"...the threat reporting that we received in the spring and summer of 2001 was not specific as to time nor place nor manner of attack. Almost all the reports focused on al Qaeda activities outside the United States." -- Condoleezza Rice

This is a direct quote from the PDB.

"...FBI information... indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country, consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attack." -- bin Laden determined to strike the US.

How do you come to the conclusion that the PDB provides "specifics"?

"[O]r other types of attack" is anything but "specific."

I guess that's why you deliberately omit out those 5 words from your insane homosexual smear propaganda. Right, "punxsutawneybarney"?

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At 24 September, 2012 14:00, Blogger snug.bug said...

ButtGale, your dishonest quote marks are an attempt to buttress your bogus goal shifting.

I didn't say anything about specifics. I said Condi lied. She said the memo was not a warning. It is a warning. You're trying to lawyer away her perjury by arguing that it's not a specific warning. It's a warning of activity indicating attacks in the USA.

You try to lawyer away the lies of the scumbag con artist Willie Rodriguez, and you're trying to lawyer away the perjury of the scumbag torturer Condi Rice.

You irrationally conflate the fact that the 9/11 Commission was not a congressional committee with the question of her testimony under oath. There's no relationship there.

And you repeat your stupid questions, which have nothing to do with the fact of her perjury, in a stupid attempt to pretend I haven't answered them.

You're dishonest, you're ignorant, and you're a waste of time.



 
At 24 September, 2012 15:16, Blogger GuitarBill said...

On the contrary, you're a waste of time.

"...the threat reporting that we received in the spring and summer of 2001 was not specific as to time nor place nor manner of attack. Almost all the reports focused on al Qaeda activities outside the United States." -- Condoleezza Rice

That assessment is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, as the quotation proves:

"...FBI information... indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country, consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attack." -- bin Laden determined to strike the US.

Those five words -- "or other types of attack." -- prove that you're lying.

The PDB was not specific, and did not provide enough information.

What was Dr. Rice to do?

How does one guard against "hijackings or other types of attack" when there are no specifics?

It's YOUR opinion that the PDB is a warning. There's only one problem. The PDB doesn't provide enough information to thwart ANY ATTACK, andis written in such a broad, unspecified manner as to be worthless.

Now, stop lying and pettifogging and answer the Goddamned questions:

Why was Cofer Black recommended for possible disciplinary action for refusing to notify the FBI prior to 9/11 that several of bin Laden's henchmen were known to have entered the U.S.?

If Dr. Rice lied under oath to the Congress, why was she never charged with perjury? Thus, you HAVE NO PROOF WHATSOEVER THAT DR. RICE LIED TO CONGRESS.

Who was the head of the State Department? And why was Cofer Black so careful to keep her "out of the loop"?

Why are you trying to protect a torturer and black ops specialist who lied under oath to the Congress?

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At 24 September, 2012 15:40, Blogger GuitarBill said...

One PDB reads as follows:

"...CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our Embassy in the UAE in May saying that a group of bin Laden supports was in the US planning attacks with explosives."

Another PDB read as follows:

"...Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country, consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attack, including surveillance of federal buildings in New York." -- bin Laden determined to strike the US.

So which is it, goat fucker?

Should Dr. Rice have worked to prevent an unspecified attack with explosives, an attack on a federal building, or an unspecified "hijacking"?

Hijacking? Federal buildings? Explosives?

So which threat should she have taken seriously?

One, two, all three, or more?

You're not very smart, are you, "punxsutawneybarney"?

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At 24 September, 2012 16:42, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 24 September, 2012 16:56, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, your hysterical denial doesn't change anything. The memo warned of preparations for attacks inside the USA. Condi said it was not a warning. She lied. Under oath. None of your lying lawyering can change that.

I never said anything about specifics. That's your lying red herring.

The Mossad gave the names of at least four alleged 9/11 hijackers. Is that specific enough for you?

What was Dr. Rice to do? How about ask a few questions, shake some trees?

The PDB warns of planned attacks inside the USA. Condi said it was not a warning. Condi lied.

Your pretense that I have not already answered your silly questions is dishonest.

Dr. Rice should have worked to prevent all attacks. She should have taken all the threats seriously. That was her job. She didn't do it.

 
At 24 September, 2012 17:02, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "Poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect" Good lies, "...The memo warned of preparations for attacks inside the USA. Condi said it was not a warning. She lied. Under oath."

False.

Dr. Rice and General Richard Myers have stated that contrary to repeated claims, the CIA's PDB did not warn the President of a specific new threat but "contained historical information based on old reporting"

I've already proven that there were no specifics. So what was she supposed to prevent?

You can't just claim "[s]he should have taken all the threats seriously. That was her job. She didn't do it."

Which threat?

Hijacking? Federal buildings? Explosives?

So which threat should she have taken seriously?

One, two, all three, or more?

And how was she to accomplish this daunting task?

Or in your insane homosexual smear propaganda world is the government omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent?

Your argument simply doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

You're not very smart, are you, "punxsutawneybarney"?

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At 24 September, 2012 17:04, Blogger Ian said...

Are you claiming that Fraudriguez's claims are true?

Yes.

Are you claiming that we have seen the new PDBs discussed recently in the NYT op-ed? Are you claiming that we have seen the 28 pages redacted in the original congressional report? Are you claiming that NIST has explained how the building collapsed? Are you claiming that they explained the pulverization of the concrete?

Yes.


Does it not trouble you that you can not back up any of those claims?

All claims have been backed up.

Why do you lie and lie and lie about 9/11? What is wrong with you?

My, such squealing!

 
At 24 September, 2012 17:06, Blogger Ian said...

Let's also remember that Brian is a mentally ill unemployed janitor who failed out of San Jose State, so anything he posts here is purely for our amusement. We get to point and laugh while Brian squeals hysterically.

 
At 24 September, 2012 17:13, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...Had we thought that there was an attack coming in Washington or New York, we would have moved heaven and earth to try and stop it...And I know that there was no single thing that might have prevented that attack." -- Condoleezza Rice

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At 24 September, 2012 17:17, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...Yet, as your hearings have shown, there was no silver bullet that could have prevented the 9/11 attacks." -- Condoleezza Rice

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At 24 September, 2012 17:22, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...There was no new threat information, and it did not, in fact, warn of any coming attacks inside the United States..."I can also tell you that there was nothing in this memo that suggested that an attack was coming on New York or Washington, D.C. There was nothing in this memo as to time, place, how or where. This was not a threat report to the president or a threat report to me." -- Condoleezza Rice

Yep, in the goat fucker's world, the U.S. government is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent.

In the real world, however, this assertion is false.

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At 24 September, 2012 19:02, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, I didn't lie about anything. The memo warned of preparations for attacks inside the USA. Condi said it was not a warning. She lied. Under oath. Rice's claim that the PDB was "historical information based on old reporting" was not true. The memo contained information about new warnings about planned attacks inside the USA.

She supposed to do something to prevent the upcoming attacks--inform herself, shake the trees, set up teleconferences.


Ian, your claims are silly lies. You can't substantiate them. They have not been backed up.


UtterFail, it's really funny that you quote the claims of a perjurer as if they refuted the fact that she perjured herself. She said the memo was not a warning. It warned of preparations for attacks inside the USA. She lied.

 
At 24 September, 2012 19:20, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "Poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect" Good lies, "...it's really funny that you quote the claims of a perjurer as if they refuted the fact that she perjured herself."

Oh, I see. Dr. Rice is guilty of "perjury," but she's never been convicted for perjury.

Who's the liar?

We know who's the liar, and it's not Dr. Rice.

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At 24 September, 2012 19:27, Blogger snug.bug said...

Bush has never been convicted of the torture or illegal wiretaps. So do you think that means he didn't commit those crimes--even though he bragged about them on TV and in his book?

 
At 24 September, 2012 19:29, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "Poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect" Good lies, "...Because nobody in the Bush administration with the exception of Scooter Libby was held accountable for anything. So this in no way refutes the fact that Condi lied under oath to the 9/11 Commission."

The decision to prosecute Dr. Rice for alleged perjury wasn't Bush's decision--you cretin.

The committee was full of Democrats like Mr. Ben-Veniste and Mr. Kerry.

If Dr. Rice "lied to the commission," why didn't Mr. Ben-Veniste or Mr Kerry, for example, press perjury charges?

The answer is simple: She didn't commit "perjury."

Your insane homosexual smear propaganda is not reality, idiot.

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At 24 September, 2012 19:32, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Prediction: punxsutawneybarney's next reply will be an argument from ignorance.

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At 24 September, 2012 19:46, Blogger snug.bug said...

Thanks for revealing your ignorance. 9/11 Commissioners Kean and Hamilton wrote that they considered referring the lies of NORAD representatives to the DoJ for a criminal investigation. The fact is, they didn't prosecute known perjurers. You'll have to ask them why not.

Any fool can see that she lied. She said the memo was not a warning. It warned of preparations for attacks inside the USA.

 
At 24 September, 2012 19:56, Blogger snug.bug said...

So GutterBall, does your lawyering for the torturer and perjurer and all-around slime-bucket Dr. KindaLiesaLot Rice mean you've given up on lawyering for the lying con artist William Rodriguez? Are we now in agreement that Old Jiggle Cheeks is a liar and a fraud?

 
At 24 September, 2012 20:39, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "Poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect" Good whines, "...The fact is, they didn't prosecute known perjurers."

False.

It's Mr. Ben-Veniste and Mr. Kerry's DUTY to press perjury charges if the circumstances warrant such a course of action.

Could it be that they didn't press charges because they know something which you refuse to acknowledge? Namely, her INTERPRETATION of the data, mistaken or not, does not equal perjury.

Brian "Poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect" Good lies, "...You'll have to ask them why not."

As predicted, an argument from ignorance.

Your continued refusal to acknowledge the obvious--namely, Dr. Rice's interpretation of the data does not equal a "lie"--reveals your bias and intellectual dishonesty.

Thus, we can see, once again, that your insane homosexual smear propaganda doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

It doesn't matter who you try to smear, William Rodriguez or Dr. Rice, your interpretation is ALWAYS based on logical fallacies.

In the case of Dr. Rice, your fallacious argument is premised on a logical fallacy called leap of logic.

Her interpretation of the data, mistaken or not, does NOT equal a "lie." Your logic, as always, is fallacious nonsense.

Face it, "punxsutawneybarney," you're malevolent.

Once again, you FAIL, "punxsutawneybarney."

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At 24 September, 2012 20:43, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Yo! Mr. leap of logic.

I sure hope you're never arrested, because if the judge decides to apply your "standards of evidence," you're toast.

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At 24 September, 2012 20:56, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Prediction: punxsutawneybarney's next reply will be a rationalization of the logical fallacies that premise his insane, lying homosexual smear propaganda.

Recall, his Dunning-Kruger bias prevents him from acknowledging his myriad faults.

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At 24 September, 2012 21:30, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, your belief that the 9/11 Commissioners were going to do their duty is a real hoot. Max Cleland at least had the integrity to resign.

Barack Obama not only didn't do his duty to prosecute the Bush administration for war crimes, he failed to fulfil his obligations under the UN Convention Against Torture to do so.

If you feel I have indulged in logical fallacies, please provide specifics. It's clear as day that Condi lied. She said the memo was not a warning, but any fool can see it warns of preparations for attacks.

Your own fallacy is to assume that if there is no prosecution then there is no crime. You haven't answered the question: do you deny that the Bush administration committed criminal offenses while in office?

 
At 24 September, 2012 23:04, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "Poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect" Good lies, "...Barack Obama not only didn't do his duty to prosecute the Bush administration for war crimes, he failed to fulfil [SIC] his obligations under the UN Convention Against Torture to do so."

As predicted! CHANGE THE SUBJECT AND RATIONALIZE.

Weak.

Brian "Poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect" Good lies, "...If you feel I have indulged in logical fallacies, please provide specifics. It's clear as day that Condi lied."

I have explained my argument in full. Your fallacious argument is premised on a logical fallacy: Leap of logic.

Again, her interpretation of the data, mistaken or not, does NOT equal a "lie."

Get it through your thick skull, jackass.

Brian "Poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect" Good lies, "...Your own fallacy is to assume that if there is no prosecution then there is no crime"

That's not a fallacy, it's called being reasonable--which an insane, lying homosexual smear propagandist is incapable of understanding.

Brian "Poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect" Good lies, "...You haven't answered the question: do you deny that the Bush administration committed criminal offenses while in office?"

That's right, "punxsutawneybarney," CHANGE THE SUBJECT.

Another leap of logic, jackass? George Bush and Dick Cheney's crimes do NOT prove that Dr. Rice lied to the 9/11 commission.

Again, her interpretation of the data, mistaken or not, does NOT equal a "lie." Your logic, as always, is fallacious nonsense.

Face it, "punxsutawneybarney," you're full-of-shit.

Once again, you can't just claim "[s]he should have taken all the threats seriously. That was her job. She didn't do it."

Which threat?

Hijacking? Federal buildings? Explosives?

So which threat should she have taken seriously?

One, two, all three, or more?

And how was she to accomplish this daunting task?

Or in your insane homosexual smear propaganda world is the government omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent?

Your argument simply doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

You're not very smart, are you, "punxsutawneybarney"?

Once again, you FAIL, "punxsutawneybarney."

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At 24 September, 2012 23:08, Blogger snug.bug said...

GutterBall, Condi said the memo was not a warning. It was a warning. Its authors said it was a warning. She lied.

 
At 24 September, 2012 23:16, Blogger GuitarBill said...

That's right, "punxsutawneybarney," ignore my argument and CHANGE THE SUBJECT.

Then why didn't Mr. Ben-Veniste and Mr. Kerry prosecute her for perjury?

And "I don't know, ask them," isn't an answer. It's an appeal to ignorance.

See? All you have are lies and logical fallacies.

Once again, you FAIL, "punxsutawneybarney."

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At 24 September, 2012 23:21, Blogger snug.bug said...

Kerry and Ben Veniste did not have the power to prosecute Rice. You'll have to ask them why they didn't file a complaint. Maybe they were afraid someone would accuse them of being racist. Maybe they ARE racist, and assumed that Condi can't be expected to know truth from lies. Maybe like you they have some kinky thing for gap-toothed torturing lesbians in leather boots.

You keep asking the same stupid questions again and again and again as if they hadn't been answered. The 9/11 Commission did not refer the liars from NORAD for criminal investigation, so why would you expect them to refer Rice?



 
At 24 September, 2012 23:22, Blogger snug.bug said...

Kerry and Ben Veniste did not have the power to prosecute Rice. You'll have to ask them why they didn't file a complaint. Maybe they were afraid someone would accuse them of being racist. Maybe they ARE racist, and assumed that Condi can't be expected to know truth from lies. Maybe like you they have some kinky thing for gap-toothed torturing lesbians in leather boots.

You keep asking the same stupid questions again and again and again as if they hadn't been answered. The 9/11 Commission did not refer the liars from NORAD for criminal investigation, so why would you expect them to refer Rice?

 
At 24 September, 2012 23:27, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "Poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect" Good lies, "...Kerry and Ben Veniste [SIC] did not have the power to prosecute Rice."

That is AN OUTRAGEOUS LIE.

Dr. Rice TOOK AN OATH--you lying homosexual smear propagandist.

Mr. Ben-Veniste and Mr. Kerry had all the power necessary to prosecute Dr. Rice.

See? You can't be trusted to tell the truth.

Once again, you FAIL, "punxsutawneybarney."

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At 24 September, 2012 23:45, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, you don't know what you're talking about. Mr. Ben-Veniste and Mr. Kerry are private citizens and have no power to prosecute Dr. Rice.

 
At 25 September, 2012 00:07, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "Poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect" Good lies, "...you don't know what you're talking about. Mr. Ben-Veniste and Mr. Kerry are private citizens and have no power to prosecute Dr. Rice."

Then why did Dr. Rice take an oath to "tell the truth and nothing but the truth"?

Oath n. pl. under the obligation of an oath

Under an obligation? And what is that obligation?

She is a witness--a witness who took an oath to tell the truth. To do otherwise after taking an OATH is a crime called perjury--you cretin.

Perjury carries a penalty--and I quote:

"...Current through Pub. L. 112-123. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

"Whoever—

"(1) having taken an oath before a competent tribunal, officer, or person, in any case in which a law of the United States authorizes an oath to be administered, that he will testify, declare, depose, or certify truly, or that any written testimony, declaration, deposition, or certificate by him subscribed, is true, willfully and contrary to such oath states or subscribes any material matter which he does not believe to be true; or

"(2) in any declaration, certificate, verification, or statement under penalty of perjury as permitted under section 1746 of title 28, United States Code, willfully subscribes as true any material matter which he does not believe to be true; is guilty of perjury and shall, except as otherwise expressly provided by law, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. This section is applicable whether the statement or subscription is made within or without the United States."


18 USC § 1621 - Perjury generally

So what was the point of forcing Dr. Rice to take an OATH?

See? You can't be trusted to tell the truth.

Once again, you FAIL, "punxsutawneybarney."

"...I self-critique constantly, RGT. That's why I'm never wrong." -- snug.bug

Yeah! No Dunning-Kruger there. Right, "punxsutawneybarney"?

Disgusting.

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At 25 September, 2012 04:37, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, your claims are silly lies. You can't substantiate them. They have not been backed up.

False. I can back them all up.

You, however, still have not gotten "meatball on a fork" publishes in an engineering journal, and you STILL haven't gotten a single question from the widows answered. Not one.

So, as everyone can see, I've defeated you yet again, Brian. All the squealing in the world won't change that fact.

 
At 25 September, 2012 06:33, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, stop with the meaningless rhetorical questions already!

You're just blowing smoke to try to cover up the fact that your favorite con artist, Willie Rodriguez, is a liar and your favorite torturer, Condi Rice, is a perjurer.

The point of having Dr. Rice take an oath was to bring about the illusion of gravitas to the proceedings.

Ian, you lie. The 28 redacted pages have not been released, and you can not back up your lying claim that they have. You can not back up your other lying claims.

What happened to old Jiggle-Cheeks, by the way? I proved that his hero story was a lie from the 15 initial rescues to the Last Man Out, and he ran away screaming and crying and refused to debate.







 
At 25 September, 2012 06:54, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 25 September, 2012 07:29, Blogger snug.bug said...

Also, what happened to old SnowCrash? He stopped by to demonstrate his ignorance of the difference between libel and slander, to demonstrate his ignorance of Willie Rodriguez's impossible and fraudulent hero story, and to accuse me of criminal behavior--and then he disappeared.

I heard that Snowcrash's little girlfriend Kat, who apparently bragged about having a paper in the review process at a technical journal, lost interest in her paper during the review process and has abandoned it. Is that true?

 
At 25 September, 2012 08:45, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "Poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect" Good lies, "...The point of having Dr. Rice take an oath was to bring about the illusion of gravitas to the proceedings."

False.

There you go again, citing yourself as an authority.

I just gave you the law as it applies to "[w]hoever -- having taken an oath before a competent tribunal, officer, or person, in any case in which a law of the United States authorizes an oath to be administered." The penalty includes a fine and imprisonment for five years, or both. The source is Cornell University's School of Law.

As usual, I cite impeccable sources and you cite yourself as an authority. You are not an authority, you're a failed janitor, college dropout, sex predator, Internet vandal and a compulsive liar.

The only person who's "blowing smoke," obviously, can be found between your chair and your keyboard.

Mr. Ben-Veniste had all the power necessary to charge and prosecute Dr. Rice for perjury. Yet, that outcome never materialized because, in the judgment of the committee, she didn't commit perjury.

Again, your fallacious argument is premised on a logical fallacy: Leap of logic. Dr. Rice's interpretation of the data, mistaken or not, does NOT equal a "lie."

Once again, you FAIL, "punxsutawneybarney."

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At 25 September, 2012 08:49, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Now that your "Condi lied" horseshit is proven FALSE, let's move on to the REAL ISSUE.

Here's what you wrote at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17:

"...Condi was responsible to prevent 9/11. The CIA briefed her on 5/30 and 7/10. There was the famous 'Bin Laden Determined to Attack in US' memo on 8/6. There were all the other PDBs now under discussion. She did nothing. The CIA's Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' The CIA's Tenet and Blee said that if she had acted, 9/11 might have been prevented." -- Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good, lying his ass off at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17

And now, "punxsutawneybarney":

YouTube Link 3. And I quote:

"Condi committed perjury when she told the 9/11 Commission that the 'Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US' memo was not a warning. It warned of preparations for hijackings and planned attacks in the US. She got strong warnings from the CIA on 5/30 and 7/10; Tenet and Blee agreed that had she acted, 9/11 could have been prevented. Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' See my video 'Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows.'" -- "punxsutawneybarney"

Now stop changing the subject and answer the question, scum.bag:

So goat fucker, you're either a plagiarist or "punxsutawneybarney." So which is it, scum.bag? Take your pick.

Now lie again, scum.bag.

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At 25 September, 2012 09:23, Blogger snug.bug said...

Typicaal ButtGale farteousness: ask me a question and then criticize me when I answer it.

The 9/11 Commission showed that it had no interest in protecting the integrity of its sworn testimony when it decided to give the NORAD liars a pass.

Has it ever occurred to you that your gaseous writings would not even pass 8th grade English? Nobody's reading your crap.

 
At 25 September, 2012 09:37, Blogger GuitarBill said...

There you go again, citing yourself as an authority.

I've already proven that your argument is bullshit. And the quote form Cornell's School of Law ends the debate.

Now STOP CHANGING THE SUBJECT AND ANSWER THE QUESTION, "punxsutawneybarney."

Here's what you wrote at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17:

"...Condi was responsible to prevent 9/11. The CIA briefed her on 5/30 and 7/10. There was the famous 'Bin Laden Determined to Attack in US' memo on 8/6. There were all the other PDBs now under discussion. She did nothing. The CIA's Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' The CIA's Tenet and Blee said that if she had acted, 9/11 might have been prevented." -- Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good, lying his ass off at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17

And now, "punxsutawneybarney":

YouTube Link 3. And I quote:

"Condi committed perjury when she told the 9/11 Commission that the 'Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US' memo was not a warning. It warned of preparations for hijackings and planned attacks in the US. She got strong warnings from the CIA on 5/30 and 7/10; Tenet and Blee agreed that had she acted, 9/11 could have been prevented. Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' See my video 'Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows.'" -- "punxsutawneybarney"

Now stop changing the subject and answer the question, scum.bag:

So goat fucker, you're either a plagiarist or "punxsutawneybarney." So which is it, scum.bag? Take your pick.

Now lie again, scum.bag.

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At 25 September, 2012 12:04, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 25 September, 2012 12:07, Blogger Pat Cowardly said...

Heeere Snowy! Heeeere Snowy! I guess I scared him off with his own words, kind of like what I do with Pat. What will Cass say back at headquarters?

Maybe the dickjacket he was trying to fit on snug fit him better instead?

Or maybe he's just a bitch and a coward, like Pat and James.

No more snow, but it sure was blustery...

 
At 25 September, 2012 12:30, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 25 September, 2012 12:33, Blogger snug.bug said...

GutterBall, I guess you don't read my posts. Did you consider the possibility that punx plagiarized me? I do send emails, you know. They do get forwarded sometimes.

You're not too smart, are you? And I see that you're trying to change the subject away from the fact of Condi's perjury to the 9/11 Commission and the fact that your pet con artist's story is a lie from beginning to end.

PC, SnowCrash does seem to be getting rather erratic lately. I once regarded him as one of the brighter commentators in the truth movement but lately he's been acting like somebody's dosing his herbal tea with something.

 
At 25 September, 2012 12:40, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "Poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect" Good lies, "...I guess you don't read my posts. Did you consider the possibility to punx plagiarized me?"

Yeah, sure! People are lining up to plagiarize a failed janitor, college dropout, sex predator, Internet vandal and a compulsive liar.

Brian "Poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect" Good lies, "...You're not too smart, are you?"

I'm smarter than you on a bad day. And I have the academic background and professional career to prove it.

Tell us more about ΔT, charlatan.

Brian "Poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect" Good lies, "...And I see that you're trying to change the subject away from the fact of Condi's perjury to the 9/11 Commission and the fact that your pet con artist's story is a lie from beginning to end."

Lying, insane homosexual smear propaganda is hardly a "fact."

Face it, you lost the debate. Again, your fallacious argument is premised on a logical fallacy: leap of logic. Dr. Rice's interpretation of the data, mistaken or not, does NOT equal a "lie."

Now stop CHANGING THE SUBJECT and answer the question, gay boi.


Here's what you wrote at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17:

"...Condi was responsible to prevent 9/11. The CIA briefed her on 5/30 and 7/10. There was the famous 'Bin Laden Determined to Attack in US' memo on 8/6. There were all the other PDBs now under discussion. She did nothing. The CIA's Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' The CIA's Tenet and Blee said that if she had acted, 9/11 might have been prevented." -- Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good, lying his ass off at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17

And now, "punxsutawneybarney":

YouTube Link 3. And I quote:

"Condi committed perjury when she told the 9/11 Commission that the 'Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US' memo was not a warning. It warned of preparations for hijackings and planned attacks in the US. She got strong warnings from the CIA on 5/30 and 7/10; Tenet and Blee agreed that had she acted, 9/11 could have been prevented. Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' See my video 'Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows.'" -- "punxsutawneybarney"

Now stop changing the subject and answer the question, scum.bag:

So goat fucker, you're either a plagiarist or "punxsutawneybarney." So which is it, scum.bag? Take your pick.

Now lie again, scum.bag.

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At 25 September, 2012 12:52, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, your empty claims of victory fool only the feeble-minded. And your continued harping on ΔT as if it were something significant when any fool can google it and found out in one minute that there's nothing to it is really, really, really, really stooooopid.

 
At 25 September, 2012 12:58, Blogger GuitarBill said...

You can squeal until you're blue in the face, charlatan. You lost the debate. Your argument, as I've pointed out on numerous occasions, is premised on a logical fallacy: leap of logic. Dr. Rice's interpretation of the data, mistaken or not, does NOT equal a "lie."

See? All you have a non-sequiturs and bullshit.

Now stop changing the subject and answer the question.

Here's what you wrote at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17:

"...Condi was responsible to prevent 9/11. The CIA briefed her on 5/30 and 7/10. There was the famous 'Bin Laden Determined to Attack in US' memo on 8/6. There were all the other PDBs now under discussion. She did nothing. The CIA's Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' The CIA's Tenet and Blee said that if she had acted, 9/11 might have been prevented." -- Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good, lying his ass off at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17

And now, "punxsutawneybarney":

YouTube Link 3. And I quote:

"Condi committed perjury when she told the 9/11 Commission that the 'Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US' memo was not a warning. It warned of preparations for hijackings and planned attacks in the US. She got strong warnings from the CIA on 5/30 and 7/10; Tenet and Blee agreed that had she acted, 9/11 could have been prevented. Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' See my video 'Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows.'" -- "punxsutawneybarney"

Now stop changing the subject and answer the question, scum.bag:

So goat fucker, you're either a plagiarist or "punxsutawneybarney." So which is it, scum.bag? Take your pick.

Now lie again, scum.bag.

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At 25 September, 2012 13:24, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, clearly you have not considered the possibility that punx plagiarized me.

So I guess you're doing your damndest to spam over the fact that I proved that your buddy William Fraudriguez's story is a lie from beginning to end?

 
At 25 September, 2012 13:43, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian "Poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect" Good whines, "...clearly you have not considered the possibility that punx plagiarized me."

On the contrary, I've considered it, and concluded that your specious nonsense is bullshit. After all, you're a proven compulsive liar.

Deal with it, Pinocchio.

Brian "Poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect" Good lies, "...So I guess you're doing your damndest to spam over the fact that I proved that your buddy William Fraudriguez's story is a lie from beginning to end?"

No, you lost that "debate," too. You conflate the words "building" and "rubble." You and your hateful, insane homosexual smear propaganda, however, fool no one.

Now stop changing the subject and answer the Goddamned question.

Here's what you wrote at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17:

"...Condi was responsible to prevent 9/11. The CIA briefed her on 5/30 and 7/10. There was the famous 'Bin Laden Determined to Attack in US' memo on 8/6. There were all the other PDBs now under discussion. She did nothing. The CIA's Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' The CIA's Tenet and Blee said that if she had acted, 9/11 might have been prevented." -- Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good, lying his ass off at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17

And now, "punxsutawneybarney":

YouTube Link 3. And I quote:

"Condi committed perjury when she told the 9/11 Commission that the 'Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US' memo was not a warning. It warned of preparations for hijackings and planned attacks in the US. She got strong warnings from the CIA on 5/30 and 7/10; Tenet and Blee agreed that had she acted, 9/11 could have been prevented. Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' See my video 'Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows.'" -- "punxsutawneybarney"

Now stop changing the subject and answer the question, scum.bag:

So goat fucker, you're either a plagiarist or "punxsutawneybarney." So which is it, scum.bag? Take your pick.

Now lie again, scum.bag.

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At 25 September, 2012 14:10, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, I didn't conflate the words "building" and "rubble". Willie did. By claiming he was the "Last Man Out" (instead of "Last Man Out of the Intact Building") he was claiming he was the last man out of the building AND the rubble.

You're not learning. Willie claimed “I’m actually the last survivor from the north tower that was pulled from the rubble.”

Willie claimed: "I’m the last survivor pulled from the rubble.”

So who's conflating the building and the rubble? Not me.

 
At 25 September, 2012 14:19, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Now you're posting nonsense and bald-faced lies.

Proof?

Right here, jackass:

My comment at time stamp 22 September, 2012 16:22.

See? You're a liar who can't be trusted to tell the truth.

And now you're trying to bury your latest humiliating defeat in an avalanche of squealspam.

Now stop changing the subject, cretin, and answer the Goddamned question.


Here's what you wrote at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17:

"...Condi was responsible to prevent 9/11. The CIA briefed her on 5/30 and 7/10. There was the famous 'Bin Laden Determined to Attack in US' memo on 8/6. There were all the other PDBs now under discussion. She did nothing. The CIA's Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' The CIA's Tenet and Blee said that if she had acted, 9/11 might have been prevented." -- Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good, lying his ass off at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17

And now, "punxsutawneybarney":

YouTube Link 3. And I quote:

"Condi committed perjury when she told the 9/11 Commission that the 'Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US' memo was not a warning. It warned of preparations for hijackings and planned attacks in the US. She got strong warnings from the CIA on 5/30 and 7/10; Tenet and Blee agreed that had she acted, 9/11 could have been prevented. Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' See my video 'Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows.'" -- "punxsutawneybarney"

Now stop changing the subject and answer the question, scum.bag:

So goat fucker, you're either a plagiarist or "punxsutawneybarney." So which is it, scum.bag? Take your pick.

Now lie again, scum.bag.

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At 25 September, 2012 14:39, Blogger snug.bug said...

Willie claimed he was the last man pulled from the rubble, GutterBall.

 
At 25 September, 2012 15:04, Blogger GuitarBill said...

He was pulled from the rubble.

After all, he hid under a fire truck in order to avoid being crushed by falling debris. He was rescued by the FDNY, when he was pulled from the rubble. He also required medical attention.

"...Rodriguez, at great risk to his own life, re-entered the Towers three times after the first, North Tower impact at about 8:46 A.M., and is believed to be the last person to exit the North Tower alive, surviving the building's collapse by diving beneath a fire truck." -- William Rodriguez

Unlike you, William is a hero.

You, on the other hand, are a loser.

Now stop changing the subject and answer the question, liar.


Here's what you wrote at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17:

"...Condi was responsible to prevent 9/11. The CIA briefed her on 5/30 and 7/10. There was the famous 'Bin Laden Determined to Attack in US' memo on 8/6. There were all the other PDBs now under discussion. She did nothing. The CIA's Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' The CIA's Tenet and Blee said that if she had acted, 9/11 might have been prevented." -- Brian "drag queen for 9/11 troof" Good, lying his ass off at time stamp 20 September, 2012 08:17

And now, "punxsutawneybarney":

YouTube Link 3. And I quote:

"Condi committed perjury when she told the 9/11 Commission that the 'Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US' memo was not a warning. It warned of preparations for hijackings and planned attacks in the US. She got strong warnings from the CIA on 5/30 and 7/10; Tenet and Blee agreed that had she acted, 9/11 could have been prevented. Cofer Black said 'We did everything but pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head.' See my video 'Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows.'" -- "punxsutawneybarney"

Now stop changing the subject and answer the question, scum.bag:

So goat fucker, you're either a plagiarist or "punxsutawneybarney." So which is it, scum.bag? Take your pick.

Now lie again, scum.bag.

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At 25 September, 2012 15:23, Blogger snug.bug said...

Posting the same spam again and again
doesn't change the fact that I proved that Willie JiggleCheeks's hero story is a lie, that I showed that Condi lied under oath, and that you just go pouf pouf pouf pouf all day long.

 
At 25 September, 2012 15:38, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Still spamming the thread with your insane homosexual smear propaganda, gay boi?

You didn't prove anything. On the other hand, you're a prolific liar, as I proved above.

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At 25 September, 2012 16:06, Blogger snug.bug said...

I proved that Willie's hero story is a lie. You were so busy spamming you missed it. I didn't lie about anything.

 
At 25 September, 2012 18:38, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, you lie. The 28 redacted pages have not been released, and you can not back up your lying claim that they have. You can not back up your other lying claims.

Poor Brian. He's hysterical because he STILL hasn't gotten a single question from the widows answered. Not one.

Also, he still hasn't had his "meatball on a fork" model published.

And he still lives with his parents because he can't hold down a job mopping floors.

 
At 25 September, 2012 18:39, Blogger Ian said...

I proved that Willie's hero story is a lie. You were so busy spamming you missed it. I didn't lie about anything.

Brian, you've proved nothing. You've just posted hysterical spam about your homosexual obsession with Rodriguez.

 
At 25 September, 2012 18:40, Blogger Ian said...

Anyway, Brian, remember that time Rodriguez challenged you to a debate? Yeah, you ran away squealing and crying, demanding that the debate be on the radio show of a woman you made death threats against.

Yup, that's what we expect from a mentally ill unemployed janitor who wears women's underwear.

 
At 25 September, 2012 21:57, Blogger snug.bug said...

Ian, I proved that Willie's story is a lie. I debated him right here. I proved he was a liar, I proved he was a fraud, he could not deny it, and he ran away squealing and crying. Here I am, and here he is not.

 
At 26 September, 2012 04:31, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, I proved that Willie's story is a lie. I debated him right here. I proved he was a liar, I proved he was a fraud, he could not deny it, and he ran away squealing and crying. Here I am, and here he is not.

False. You've proved nothing except that you're a pathetic homosexual who lusts after a genuine hero like Rodriguez.

Anyway, we're not talking about your sexual obsession with Rodriguez. We're talking about the fact that you STILL haven't gotten a single question from the widows answered. Not one.

 
At 26 September, 2012 08:45, Blogger snug.bug said...

I proved that his story is a lie, Ian.

His story about 15 initial rescues is a lie. He showed his ABM co-workers to the street. They already knew their way to the street. Construing that as "rescue" is an insult to the people who died that day. Strike one.

Willie's story that he was "opening doors and letting people out" is a lie. The fire exit doors were not locked from the inside, and the people were not locked in. There is not one 911 call from anyone trapped behind a locked fire exit door. There is not one credible person who will tell us he or she (or his or her spouse, daughter, parent, sibling or friend) was trapped behind a fire exit door until Willie came and opened the door. Strike two.

Willie claim that there was a 22-story collapse from 65 to 43 is a lie. He didn't see it, nobody else in the world says it happened, as a matter of engineering it's impossible because it would have brought the entire building down. The reason he needs this lie is to fix a major narrative problem in his story: if he saved hundreds of people on the lower 39 floors, what kind of hero abandons the hundreds more from floor 40 to 87 who need Willie's lifesaving key to come and open the doors and let them out? The only solution for this problem was to invent the 22-story collapse--the trapped people above were all dead, so there was no point in trying to save any more people and Willie left the building. It's a stupid, obvious lie that does nothing but serve Willie. Strike 3.

Willie's claim that he was Last Man Out is not true. A dozen firefighters on the stairway behind him got out after he did. He may or may not have been the Last Man Out of the Building Before it Fell. There's no reason to take his word for it. GutterBall's hysterical attempts to distinguish between Last Man before the collapse and Last Man after the collapse are sabotaged by Willie himself, who claimed he was the Last Survivor Pulled from the Rubble. Strike Four.

Willie Rodriguez is a liar and a fraud. I proved it, he ran away screaming and crying, and he hasn't come back.

 
At 26 September, 2012 09:29, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

See, Sir Spamalot goes apeshit whenever you mention Wille. Brian knows he can never measure up.

 
At 26 September, 2012 09:41, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 26 September, 2012 09:42, Blogger snug.bug said...

Can't measure up? Won't measure down. Willie steals his glory from the heroes who died that day. Not my style. I proved he is a liar and a fraud, and there's nothing you or Ian can do about it.

 

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