Ryan Mackey to Debate Troofers Szamboti, Chandler

On Hardfire, hosted by Ron Wieck. You know that we'll have the video up as soon as it is available. As I mentioned in that thread, I am confident that we are sending the right man into the arena, armed with the facts. Break a leg, Ryan!

Ryan Mackey on Hardfire: Part III

The third an final part of the Hardfire interview with Ryan Mackey is up. Enjoy.

Ryan Mackey on Hardfire: Part II

The second part of Ryan Mackey's presentation on the physics of 9/11 is up. In this part Ron Wieck gets more into his saga trying to book David Ray Griffin on to the show. I replied to Ron that he should have tried booking someone less demanding, like Barbra Streisand. I still need to do a post on that whole episode. Anyway, enjoy.

Ryan Mackey on Hardfire

NASA engineer, and David Ray Griffin's worst nightmare, Ryan Mackey appears in the first of a series of shows on Hardfire, hosted by Ron Wieck. Ron actually was trying to book Griffin originally, which didn't work out for a variety of reasons, which I may get into in a future post. In the meantime enjoy something a bit more logical.

Why, Indeed, Does the Baloney Avoid the Grinder?

Because when it doesn't it ends up looking as silly as Richard Gage does, with his boxes analogy:



From about 24 minutes into part 2 of the Hardfire debate with Mark Roberts that James has already linked. Notice how calm and comfortable Gravy is compared to the Gagemeister. Gage comes off as the nut he is.

Ace Baker on Hardfire, Part II

I have not had a chance to watch this video as yet, but I am sure that Steve Wright did as excellent a job as he did in the initial version. Kudos to Ron for setting this up.

No-Planer Theories Discussed on Hardfire

Ace Baker represents the TV fakery view, while Ron Wick (just kidding, Wieck) and Steve Wright argue the rationalist case. Ace presented his "evidence" well, but his case collapsed at freefall speed after Wright (an expert in video special effects) started analyzing it. Another excellent job by Ron in setting this up. There will be a second part to come in a week or so.

Challenge to Truthers: Stump Mark Roberts!

Our buddy Gravy from the JREF forums will appear again on Ron Wieck's Hardfire program, along with Arthur Scheuerman to discuss World Trade Center 7. The show will be live at 9:00 PM Eastern time tomorrow night, February 26. Having been unable to find a 9-11 "Truther" willing to debate these gentlemen, Ron will throw open the phone lines, and 9-11 conspiracy theorists are specifically encouraged to call in with their questions and challenges.

The main number is 718-935-9598. If it's busy, call 917-763-9896.

You can watch the show live tomorrow night here.

Put up or shut up, Truthers!

Update: Kick to top for the rest of Tuesday.

Ron & Mark on Schroeder, Rodriguez

This is a fascinating discussion about the John Schroeder interview tying it in with Willie Rodriguez's claims. The only negative is that the show is only a half-hour long.

Fetzer, Roberts & Wieck III

Starts with WTC 7 which of course is one of my favorite topics. Gravy gets off a devastating bit about "bombs and explosions".

Overall, Fetzer managed to dodge a lot of obvious problem punches. He got away with dominating the conversation. Fetzer does have some skills at debating conspiracy theories and compared to the Loosers and Les Jamieson, he acquits himself well.

I want to emphasize that is largely due to Fetzer's slipperyness, not to any superiority of fact. Mark Roberts didn't fatten his average against Uncle Fetzer because you cannot improve on 1.000. Once again Roberts surprised me with his breadth of knowledge, as did Ron.

Fetzer, Roberts & Wieck: Round II

Can be seen here. I'll add comments as I watch the video.

Update: Some very nice bits in there. I love it when Fetzer (18:30) was claiming that the bodies still strapped into their seats was a "nice story" and Mark corrected him saying it was a horrible story, and it happened to real people.

Lyte Trip will be pleased to hear that Uncle Fetzer has witnesses (22:25) who reported seeing the plane fly over the building.

Gravy Versus Fetzer: Round One

It took place in Brooklyn, so I suppose we could call it the Flatbush Flattening? Round one to Mark Roberts. Now we understand what he meant when he said he felt like an altar boy after the debate! Kudos also to Ron Wieck, the host, who cuts to the chase quite effectively.