Monday, July 05, 2010

So Many Mistakes, Just One Post...

This post almost seems like one of those old pictures where you were supposed to circle all the mistakes.

The officials couldn’t find the airplanes’ “black boxes” containing flight information, yet they found a paper passport presumably owned by one of the Middle Eastern highjackers—named on a list the FBI compiled with amazing speed, yet no similar names were on the original flight lists the airlines gave to CNN. The passport belonged to a Middle Eastern man, Mohammed Atta, a supposed devout and fanatic Muslim who ate pork, snorted coke, and rented prostitutes.


Let's see:

1. It wasn't Mohammed Atta's passport, it was Satam al-Suqami's.

2. The claims that he ate pork and snorted coke came from Amanda Keller who has since recanted her statement.

Then, some of the other highjackers turned up alive in various parts of the world objecting to having been accused of murder and suicide.


3. It's hijackers, not highjackers, and of course he links to the original BBC report without linking to the update.

We recently asked the FBI for a statement, and this is, as things stand, the closest thing we have to a definitive view: The FBI is confident that it has positively identified the nineteen hijackers responsible for the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Also, the 9/11 investigation was thoroughly reviewed by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States and the House and Senate Joint Inquiry. Neither of these reviews ever raised the issue of doubt about the identity of the nineteen hijackers.


And what about the lack of military response? Where was the trillion plus dollar security system we US taxpayers paid for? Where were the scrambled jets from Andrews AFB right next to the Pentagon? What about the surface to air missiles that ring the Pentagon lawn?


4. Andrews AFB is not "right next to the Pentagon, and the surface to air missiles that ring the Pentagon lawn exist only in the alleged minds of Truthers.

Even key members of the 9-11 Commission thought the investigation was flawed. Chairman Lee Hamilton wrote in his book Without Precedent—that the 9/11 Commission was “set up to fail” by the Bush Administration. John Farmer, Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission, wrote on page four of his book, The Ground Truth: “At some level of government, at some point in time, there was an agreement not to tell the people the truth about what happened.” These are presumably the same people with whom the 9-11 Untruthers agree.


Why, yes, yes, I do agree with John Farmer. What did he tell Brad Friedman?

JF: Well, let me just say that I think the [9-11 Commission] report is, uh, extremely accurate, and- and sets forth the facts of 9/11. And we actually did point out in the report the discrepancies between the accounts that were given and what we actually found.


He mentions JREF, and notes this quote from Mark (Gravy) Roberts:
As an example, I ran across a reference by “Gravy” on a JREF forum which refers to “Gage and his gang of lazy, lying, despicable creeps.”


That's unfair of Gravy. I have seen no evidence that Gage and his gang are lazy.

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Thursday, June 07, 2007

Alex Jones

Now I'm starting to get annoyed at Jones. Remember, he's seen the video that we've all seen and yet he gets it completely wrong.

On Coast To Coast AM yesterday, Jones said (8:33 into Hour One, 6/6/07):

Jones: ...and they just said to Giuliani, hey, you told Peter Jennings that afternoon and we have the videoclip up on the website, that you guys got word that Tower 1 and Tower 2 were going to come down right after they'd been hit and to get out of Building 7. And so you did that. And the quote is 'We were operating out of there when we were told the World Trade Center is going to collapse. So we got out.' There's the quote, and then they walk up to Giuliani....


Alex, that is a hanging curve, and I'll whack it out of the park if you don't mind. First, the warning did not come "right after they'd been hit". Second they were not in Building 7. Let's go to the videotape:



Jones clearly misrepresents two major facts in the course of a brief clip. First the context makes it clear that Giuliani did not get warning when the planes hit; he was told to evacuate and before he could respond the South Tower collapsed. This times the warning at around 9:59 or so, which fits with other testimony. And the claim that they were in Building 7 is ludicrous; Giuliani clearly states he was in 75 Barclay. It's just an absurd mistake, a ridiculous and easy mistake to recognize.

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