Tuesday, May 02, 2006

Men Always Lie About Size

At the 22 minute mark, Loose Change, referring to the damage at the Pentagon claims "The only damage to the outer wall is a single hole, no more than 16 feet in diameter." Oh really, here is a picture of the Pentagon. It is a bit hard to see through the smoke (click to enlarge), but that hole is a hell of a lot bigger than 16 feet. Compare it to the firetruck and firefighters just in front of it.

If you look at the damage after the fire is put out, you also see the extent of the damage. Look at how much rubble is piled up in the front. It is quite obvious the hole is around 30-40 meters across, which amazingly also happens to be the wingspan of a 757. What an amazing coincidence!

Purdue University, interestingly enough, came out with a computer simulation of the crash. It almost exactly mimics the damage, a wide hole in the outer ring, growing increasingly smaller through 2 more rings. You can see it here.

Update: The official estimate according to the ASCE report is 90 feet, which is pretty close to me 30-40 meter rough guess, and a really long way from 16 feet. Warning to moonbats, read this report at your own risk, it contains lots of engineering terms and actual science.

The width of the severe damage to the west facade of the Pentagon was approximately 120 ft (from column lines 8 to 20). The projected width, perpendicular to the path of the aircraft, was approximately 90 ft, which is substantially less than the 125 ft wingspan of the aircraft. An examination of the area encompassed by extending the line of travel of the aircraft to the face of the building shows that there are no discrete marks on the building corresponding to the positions of the outer third of the right wing. The size and position of the actual opening in the facade of the building (from column line 8 to column line 18) indicate that no portion of the outer two-thirds of the right wing and no portion of the outer one-third of the left wing actually entered the building.


At 15 September, 2006 11:32, Blogger The Masked Writer said...

How did they determine the width of the hole 'after' the collapse? Were they using the same photos or what?

At 09 December, 2006 17:17, Blogger Alxemi said...

The pictures used in loose change are a lot more clear than the ones used here. You can easilly see wall behind that red line:


I came here looking for real "screws" and everything i have found makes "loose change" stronger. Good work guys.

At 09 December, 2006 17:26, Blogger Alxemi said...

I have made a comparison between your shot and the one used in the documentary, you can easily see wall between the two white lines i draw:

loose change shot in which you can see the wall:

your shot with smoke where there is wall, and your red line just in fron of it:

The comparison is not 100% acurate, but you can see the point, look at the rubish in the ground as reference between the two pictures.

At 11 December, 2006 08:12, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Um, actually smart one who owns this blog, you can't prove your point with this ridiculously unclear picture, you expect me to believe that behind all that smoke is a 30 meter hole, come on now, your hurting your cause.

At 26 July, 2007 02:19, Blogger salliboy said...

Over the the last couple of years I find that most of the information I come across that supports the official 9/11 story is posited to debunk other information. It's always conveyed as the counter to some 'crack-pot' theory. If it's the 'official' version you support, it shouldn't have to 'counter' or 'screw' anything. It should stand alone, always. It should never be used to start this silly school-yard squabble that is this blog. Have respect for your point of view SLCers. Supposedly, it's the official truth. Us 'crack-pots' are just trying to get where you are already...stop trying to beat us down with your 'truth'.

At 28 July, 2007 07:38, Blogger Smile and Say "Cheese" said...

Have to agree with sumy23, one cannot see the left edge of the impact hole. But...one can see that the photo of collapsed section matches up well with the "smoke filled" photo to show that the impact hole was NOT 90 feet across...fyi Pentagon windows are not 15 feet across...Whoops!

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