Wednesday, May 03, 2006

Loose Screw #2--The Coroner

The Somerset County Coroner, Wally Miller, comes in for some selective quoting in Loose Change. Here are two quotes that Dylan Avery finds particularly convenient for his argument that Flight 93 did not crash in Shanksville:



And:



But of course that there weren't bodies or blood evident at the site does not mean that the plane did not crash there; it just means they were largely obliterated in the crash.

Here's an article on Miller three weeks after the crash:

The FBI has mandated DNA testing to confirm the identities of remains, a process just beginning that Miller said could take four to six months. But using mostly dental records, Miller and staff have identified remains of 12 passengers -- a number that the coroner said might grow with last weekend's recovery of additional remains.

Remains, like the aircraft wreckage itself, were scattered when the jet hit the ground at as much as 575 mph, then exploded in a fireball of fuel.

With those of 12 people identified, Miller and his team have identified the remains of 27 percent of the people on the plane, more than the 20 percent match he said that experts predicted at the outset.


Here's another quote from Miller that you won't see in the film:

All that debris, and the fact that only 8 percent of the human remains could be recovered, mean the site is, essentially, a cemetery, Miller says. "The real story is about what those people did, deciding to rush the [terrorists] and sell everyone else on the idea," says Miller, who spent weeks crawling around on his hands and knees searching for remains and would rather talk about anything else. "Where it landed is not what matters. The most important thing is that they be properly remembered."

This is typical of kook conspiracy theories; one quote by somebody will be highlighted, while other quotes that disprove the theory will be ignored.

8 Comments:

At 10 September, 2006 08:38, Blogger Elmer's Brother said...

and yet he was able to identify remains. Obviously remains were found.

 
At 27 December, 2006 01:47, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why does one of your reports state that 27 percent of the remains were found and the other report say only 8 percent were found. Seems like your resources have some descrepencies of their own.

 
At 27 December, 2006 01:47, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why does one of your reports state that 27 percent of the remains were found and the other report say only 8 percent were found. Seems like your resources have some descrepencies of their own.

 
At 04 June, 2007 06:56, Blogger Merchant said...

27% of the passengers (not remains) were identified from 8% of their remains.. do the math.

Doesn't mean the same thing, just means that of the roughly 8% of what was left of all those passengers, they were able to match up to a number of people who amounted to 27% of those on the flight.

Now.. how you quantify a % of remains is another story, I wouldn't want that job.

 
At 11 October, 2007 00:56, Blogger Norm said...

When a plane crashes in the "so-called" manner claimed by the FBI, there would be more than scraps of an airplane. There were no remains of an airplane seen anywhere. No luggage...airplane seats...nothing...no bodies whatsoever. People like you should get their heads out of their asses and look at all the facts.

 
At 15 September, 2009 09:25, Blogger Anonymous said...

There Lying! Not Loose Change.

 
At 25 October, 2009 16:08, Blogger Registered Independent said...

First off I have no idea what your argument is about concerning Wally Miller, you simply have two quotes and a statement form a human being “Wally” that is reporting on a gut wrenching event a plane crash, simply saying”Loose screw” proves nothing except that your a shitty blogger regurgitating others hard work.

Secondly the premise of your blog to dismiss people attempting to gain the truth of 911 is counterproductive and a farce considering your just another one of the 911 Truthers, though your truth is based on the lies of others.

Do the world a favor and stop plagiarizing others work and try to come up with a thought of your own. Example the Wally Miller page, how about a link to another crash, showing the same devastation, or how about another steel frame building that falls from just fire alone, bet you can't because your just another useless human being polluting the web with trash.

Bring it on!

 
At 25 October, 2009 16:08, Blogger Registered Independent said...

First off I have no idea what your argument is about concerning Wally Miller, you simply have two quotes and a statement form a human being “Wally” that is reporting on a gut wrenching event a plane crash, simply saying”Loose screw” proves nothing except that your a shitty blogger regurgitating others hard work.

Secondly the premise of your blog to dismiss people attempting to gain the truth of 911 is counterproductive and a farce considering your just another one of the 911 Truthers, though your truth is based on the lies of others.

Do the world a favor and stop plagiarizing others work and try to come up with a thought of your own. Example the Wally Miller page, how about a link to another crash, showing the same devastation, or how about another steel frame building that falls from just fire alone, bet you can't because your just another useless human being polluting the web with trash.

Bring it on!

 

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