Wednesday, July 12, 2006

Loosers Yuck It Up Over Box Cutters; Get Put In Place by Pilot's Daughter

Over at this thread the $%#!@s at the Loose Change forum are having a grand old time laughing about the pilots of the planes getting killed with box cutters, when they get slammed by Wendy Burlingame, daughter of the pilot of the plane that crashed into the Pentagon.



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I've said it before and I'll say it again: Dylan Avery and his buddies are no better than the Reverend Fred Phelps and his evil brood.

79 Comments:

At 12 July, 2006 21:40, Blogger ScottSl said...

I feel sick.

 
At 12 July, 2006 22:13, Blogger default.xbe said...

im always happy to people forcing th eloosers to recognize that the victims arent just names on paper but real people

next i wanna see mark binghams mother smack dylan avery like i know a mother can

 
At 12 July, 2006 23:21, Blogger roger_sq said...

I feel sick.

That'll wear off, but the stupid is probably going to stick with you.

Lemme see if I get this straight. You assclowns sit around here all day "Debunking" with your highbrow bullshit occamsadhinem mental masturbation, and you cannot tell that "wendyb" is a complete and total work of fiction extracted from a half dozen obits found on Google?

Get fucked! Y'all are completely incompetent- find another hobby!

 
At 12 July, 2006 23:23, Blogger roger_sq said...

next i wanna see mark binghams mother smack dylan avery like i know a mother can

You probably will. I'm sure she's over perusing LC2 in her spare time too.

suckers........

 
At 12 July, 2006 23:34, Blogger apathoid said...

Hey Roger, care to make things interesting. You said you have 50,000$ to spend on an engineer proving "pancake collapse" is possible. Care to lay down some dough on the authenticity of Wendy B???

It can be easily verified.....

 
At 12 July, 2006 23:41, Blogger roger_sq said...

Hey Roger, care to make things interesting. You said you have 50,000$ to spend on an engineer proving "pancake collapse" is possible. Care to lay down some dough on the authenticity of Wendy B???

It can be easily verified.....


I'll need your address to send the paypal instructions (provided this doesn't go afoul of the poker laws they passed yesterday of course). How much would you like to pay me?

 
At 12 July, 2006 23:47, Blogger apathoid said...

Roger, register over at the SLC forum and shoot me a PM. I emailed Wendy B and pointed her to this post here. So I dont think we should continue this here...and yes she is for real.

 
At 12 July, 2006 23:55, Blogger apathoid said...

BTW Roger, I've spoken to two United 93 relatives over on the United 93 board. Why do you find it so hard to believe that people would go onto the internet to defend their loved ones??
Do you have a heart or a soul?

 
At 13 July, 2006 00:08, Blogger roger_sq said...

Why do you find it so hard to believe that people would go onto the internet to defend their loved ones??
Do you have a heart or a soul?


Because anyone with any depth perception can determine that the internet is a bottomless morass of about 1 billion human beings from all walks of life and background, some of whom are in fact at war with each other as I type, and bouncing around the blogosphere setting the record straight, and take personal offense at the rantings of complete strangers, in the hopes of getting everyone's beliefs and opinions to fall in line is akin to roaming california scrubbing graffitti off of bathroom stalls, and anyone who actually honored the loss of a loved one probably wouldn't bother?

Is Ken Lay's wife going to show up and set them straight on that whole "he faked his death thing" and crib his obituary to prove who she is?

Yer outta yer fuckin' mind!

 
At 13 July, 2006 00:10, Blogger roger_sq said...

Roger, register over at the SLC forum and shoot me a PM. I emailed Wendy B and pointed her to this post here. So I dont think we should continue this here...and yes she is for real.


It's past my bedtime, if you haven't sobered up or been caught by the paranoiacs at LC by tomorrow we'll pick this up then.

Cheers.

 
At 13 July, 2006 00:26, Blogger Billythekid said...

"(...) and you cannot tell that "wendyb" is a complete and total work of fiction extracted from a half dozen obits found on Google?"

This is what happens all the time. When loudmouthed Truthers are suddenly confronted by real victims...denial!

Real eyewitnesses were "made up" or bribed, and real victims get this story: Hey, we don't know what happened to your father, but believe us, the official story is not true!

 
At 13 July, 2006 03:04, Blogger Cassiopeia said...

So, they've hit rock bottom and started digging. Yeah, Wendyb could be a crack government agent desperately trying to discredit the brave voices, the keepers of the real truth. Or alternatively they could just be sad, self important little boys who can't see how offensive their fantasy is to the real victims of a terrible tragedy.

 
At 13 July, 2006 03:23, Blogger shawn said...

That'll wear off, but the stupid is probably going to stick with you.

Endless source of irony.

 
At 13 July, 2006 05:12, Blogger MarkyX said...

Hey Roger, thanks for proving yet again about how the "Truth" movement has very little regard of the victims or facts, but instead prefer to masterbate to the concept that the government is after them.

It's sad we live in an age where people would rather be against the government then merely question it.

 
At 13 July, 2006 05:27, Blogger debunking911 said...

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At 13 July, 2006 05:28, Blogger debunking911 said...

This is the main reason I do this. This is also why I don't treat the conspiracy theorist with kid gloves either. They don't care who they hurt as long as they demonize the government. It's down right SICK!

 
At 13 July, 2006 05:53, Blogger JoanBasil said...

Nobody put a gun to "Wendy Burlingame's" head and forced her to read message boards. I do think that the pilots were overtaken by guns to the head, though. The boxcutter/plastic knives stuff - no.

 
At 13 July, 2006 06:15, Blogger Murdervillage said...

As far as I know, the only account of "boxcutters" is from flight 77. The other accounts mentioned knives and bombs. But why is this an issue? I'm a big, strong, athletic guy. But if someone grabbed me from behind and slit my carotid or jugular with a boxcutter, I'm dead in seconds. Joanbasil apparently doesn't bleed.

Whatever weapons the hijackers used, the first thing they did was to kill people. We know that from the flight attendant reports of the stabbings. These were not spontaneous acts. The terrorists planned to kill people, presumably practiced over and over how they would do it, carried weapons, and did it. Please remember that and stop niggling about how much weaponry a terrorist would need to have before YOU would take them seriously.

 
At 13 July, 2006 06:23, Blogger MarkyX said...

Nobody put a gun to "Wendy Burlingame's" head and forced her to read message boards. I do think that the pilots were overtaken by guns to the head, though. The boxcutter/plastic knives stuff - no.


Are you suggesting that family members should simply back off and leave the CTs alone?

Fuck you. One of the reason what makes western societies great is freedom of speech, asshole.

You CTs act more like a police state then any other government. We can't go against you, debate you, question you, or oppose you.

And they call us the Nazi Supporters.

 
At 13 July, 2006 06:44, Blogger JoanBasil said...

markyx,
geez. Talk about Nazis. What a response.

Pat and James, I know you read these comments. You gotta take a moment away from criticizing every piddly comment made by someone on the Loose Change boards and respond to markyx telling me to "F--k off" - for WHAT? Your own credibility is at stake if you let that kind of stuff go on unchallenged on your own board but are hypersensitive to posters on the Loose Change board.

 
At 13 July, 2006 06:46, Blogger JoanBasil said...

murdervillage,
theres a reason why you don't see boxcutter fights in movies.

 
At 13 July, 2006 06:54, Blogger MarkyX said...

Watch "The Hunted", very great knife fight in the end.

 
At 13 July, 2006 07:31, Blogger telescopemerc said...

murdervillage,
theres a reason why you don't see boxcutter fights in movies.


Yeah, they don't look good, they tend to hide on the hand, they're messy, you can't flip 'em around stylishly like a Bowie Knife, Wire fighting with boxcutters looks silly, You can't 'Flynn-parry' like you do with a sword. In short, they don't film well.

Also, boxcutter fight implies that both parties have boxcutters. In most real-life cases it is usually one person with a boxcutter, the other with nothing.

That doesn't mean they aren't deadly or intimidating.

I take this comment to show that once again, CT'ers get most of their information about how the world works from movies.

 
At 13 July, 2006 07:33, Blogger Cassiopeia said...

Unless you're wilfully ignoring history, pre-911, hijackers would tend to seek that the plane be diverted elsewhere or would hold the passengers captive as bargaining chips. To suggest there is something suspicious in the passengers not leaping from their seats and going Bruce Willis on the hijackers is absurd. If they announced they had bombs and everyone better sit down and STFU, I'm guessing that's exactly what they did in the interests of self preservation. Whether the hijackers had boxcutters, tactical nukes or sharpened slices of mango, as soon as they said 'bomb' everything else was rendered moot.
But, as ever CT'ers don't let reason, history, logic or fact get in the way of a good yarn. Shame you have to piss on people's graves in the process.

 
At 13 July, 2006 07:36, Blogger Manny said...

telling me to "F--k off" - for WHAT?

For being an evil, lying, disgusting advocate for the terrorists who perpetrated the September 11th attacks on America.

Hope that helps.

 
At 13 July, 2006 07:47, Blogger ScottSl said...

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At 13 July, 2006 07:47, Blogger Electric Cube said...

You are a complete moron. People aren't who they say they are on the Internet.

Please show me where the proof is that she is who she says she is.

This whole site is a goverment ploy to try and brainwash people into believing their CRAP!

In your video, all you do is pick at wording and sentace construction. You question the fact that it is dedicated to those lives lost on 9/11 and not the actual facts. You have none of your own evidence to prove anything.

Loose change is a fabulous video, you've just been paid by government officials (or you are one). The American government are a bunch of child fuckers, they are scared now that people have seen through their piles of bullshit and are running with their tails between their legs. Haha, go join them you cunt.

 
At 13 July, 2006 07:54, Blogger ScottSl said...

Sometimes I've though about stopping the 9/11 debunking for a while.
But its these horrible people that keep me going.

I see we have another classy CT post above me.

 
At 13 July, 2006 07:54, Blogger ScottSl said...

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At 13 July, 2006 08:07, Blogger Cassiopeia said...

I know it's an easy to take cheap shots questioning the mental health of the CT crowd. But Electric Cube, seriously: seek help.

 
At 13 July, 2006 08:28, Blogger Pat said...

Pat and James, I know you read these comments. You gotta take a moment away from criticizing every piddly comment made by someone on the Loose Change boards and respond to markyx telling me to "F--k off" - for WHAT?

Nobody put a gun to your head....

But she does have a point. I know that emotions can get raw, particularly on a post like this. Let's remember to play the ball, not the man. Ad hominems do not convince the undecided middle.

That said, Joan, how in the world do you think the hijackers got guns on the airplane?

 
At 13 July, 2006 09:55, Blogger Murdervillage said...

JoanBasil said...
murdervillage,
theres a reason why you don't see boxcutter fights in movies.


Please explain what in blazes movie fights have to do with this subject.

 
At 13 July, 2006 10:08, Blogger undense said...

You are a complete moron. People aren't who they say they are on the Internet.

You mean like JohndoeX over at the LC forum who claims to be a commercial pilot with 20 years experience but doesn't seem to know his ass from a hole in the ground? The guy who claims he was in middle school during the Iran/Contra affair, which was 20 years ago when he was supposedly flying the friendly skies?

Please show me where the proof is that she is who she says she is.

Why don't you go over to the LC forum, PM her, and find out for yourself?

 
At 13 July, 2006 10:12, Blogger Murdervillage said...

From the 9/11 Commission Report and this BBC article

Flight 11
Sweeney calmly reported on her line that the plane had been hijacked; a man in first class had his throat slashed; two flight attendants had been stabbed - one was seriously hurt and was on oxygen while the other's wounds seemed minor; a doctor had been requested; the flight attendants were unable to contact the cockpit; and there was a bomb in the cockpit...

Flight 175
They used knives (as reported by two passengers and a flight attendant), Mace (reported by one passenger), and the threat of a bomb (reported by the same passenger).

They stabbed members of the flight crew (reported by a flight attendant and one passenger).

Both pilots had been killed (reported by one flight attendant)...

At 0900, Lee Hanson received a second call from his son Peter: "It's getting bad, Dad - a stewardess was stabbed - they seem to have knives and Mace - they said they have a bomb.

Flight 77
The hijackers used knives (reported by one passenger) and moved all the passengers (and possibly crew) to the rear of the aircraft (reported by one flight attendant and one passenger)...

At some point between 0916 and 0926, Barbara Olson called her husband, Ted Olson, the solicitor general of the United States.She reported that the flight had been hijacked, and the hijackers had knives and box cutters... About a minute into the conversation, the call was cut off.

Flight 93
At 0932, a hijacker, probably Jarrah, made or attempted to make the following announcement to the passengers of Flight 93: "Ladies and Gentlemen: Here the captain, please sit down keep remaining sitting. We have a bomb on board. So, sit." (More about flight 93 below.)

From the 9/11 Commission Report, footnote 82 to chapter 1:
The FBI collected 14 knives or portions of knives at the Flight 93 crash site. FBI report, “Knives Found at the UA Flight 93 Crash Site,” undated.

Flight 93 Phone Call Summary
At least two callers from the flight reported that the hijackers knew that passengers were making calls but did not seem to care... It might not have occurred to him that they were certain to learn what had happened in New York, thereby defeating his attempts at deception.

At least 10 passengers and two crew members shared vital information with family, friends, colleagues, or others on the ground. All understood the plane had been hijacked.

They said the hijackers wielded knives and claimed to have a bomb.

Callers reported that a passenger had been stabbed and that two people were lying on the floor of the cabin, injured or dead - possibly the captain and first officer.

One caller reported that a flight attendant had been killed...

During at least five of the passengers' phone calls, information was shared about the attacks that had occurred earlier that morning at the World Trade Center.

Five calls described the intent of passengers and surviving crew members to revolt against the hijackers.

According to one call, they voted on whether to rush the terrorists in an attempt to retake the plane.

They decided, and acted.

 
At 13 July, 2006 10:14, Blogger Dog Town said...

Fiction is all the CTers understand.If they haven't seen it in a movie they don't believe it.Their favorite work of fiction seems to be LC.Gives you an idea of their intelligence level right there.

 
At 13 July, 2006 10:20, Blogger CHF said...

Let the CTers laugh at the dead.

If your enemy wants to make a mistake just stand back and leave them to it.

 
At 13 July, 2006 10:42, Blogger default.xbe said...

murdervillage,
theres a reason why you don't see boxcutter fights in movies.


yes, there is a reason, and that reason is they arent entertaining, they dont sell tickets

so unless you think the hijackers were concerned with the entertainment of people reading the newspaper the next day, your comment is less than pointless

 
At 13 July, 2006 10:59, Blogger JoanBasil said...

The reason you don't see boxcutter fights in movies its it would be unconvincing.

They got guns on the same way they figured out how to evade NORAD.


Pat,
You're not getting my point. Words like "a--hole" and "F--k" are filthy. You've told us you're getting a lot of links and visitors and you guys so often want to talk about what oddballs posters on the Loose Change forum are. Markyx has to be a nut, don't you agree? Where does that come from to spew filth at somebody except that this guy is a nut?


(And I'd hardly call that "ad hominem," it doesn't reach even that level of debate to just spew filthy words at somebody, does it?)

 
At 13 July, 2006 11:09, Blogger default.xbe said...

The reason you don't see boxcutter fights in movies its it would be unconvincing.

unconvincing? in a movie? hahahaha, you need to realize that movies are veeeeerrrrrry far from reality

They got guns on the same way they figured out how to evade NORAD.

they got guns on the plane by being inside US airspace already?

 
At 13 July, 2006 11:12, Blogger Dog Town said...

Better to be able to spew than be silenced.Mention any thing with real "truth" at LC forum ,you get locked out.So whats afew bad words.

 
At 13 July, 2006 11:12, Blogger telescopemerc said...

The reason you don't see boxcutter fights in movies its it would be unconvincing.

So the fact that something doesn't film well means that it is unusable as a weapon? Tell that to the folks who've had their faces slashed by boxcutters. Maybe you'll get a face full of 'convincing'.

They got guns on the same way they figured out how to evade NORAD.

That is not an explanation. That is an incredibly bad similie, especially in light of what NORAD was designed to do. (Hint: It wasn't taking doen domestic flights).

How did they get the guns on board, joan.

 
At 13 July, 2006 12:48, Blogger roger_sq said...

"(...) and you cannot tell that "wendyb" is a complete and total work of fiction...

This is what happens all the time. When loudmouthed Truthers are suddenly confronted by real victims...denial!


No, this is another example of sheep being sheep. That post is as fake as fake gets.

The USS Saratoga...

Are you guys really going to try and pass this off as legit? Isn't that very Dylan Avery of ya?

 
At 13 July, 2006 13:03, Blogger James B. said...

I don't know for certain that it is her, but if you have any evidence to the contrary, please share it with the rest of us.

 
At 13 July, 2006 13:10, Blogger shawn said...

Nobody put a gun to "Wendy Burlingame's" head and forced her to read message boards. I do think that the pilots were overtaken by guns to the head, though. The boxcutter/plastic knives stuff - no.

Yeah, it's really easy to get on a plane with guns.

Loose change is a fabulous video, you've just been paid by government officials (or you are one).

Oh it's a fabulous example of how not to make a fact-based documentary.

No, this is another example of sheep being sheep.

That irony again, roger. You gotta watch it.

but if you have any evidence to the contrary, please share it with the rest of us.

He never has evidence. All's he does is say "wrong" or "I know the truth!" and then ironically belittle others.

 
At 13 July, 2006 13:19, Blogger Manny said...

James,

I'd say that whether that particular poster is Ms. Burlingame or an imposter is largely irrelevant to your larger point that the Loosers are no better than the Phelpses. It's true that Ms. Burlingame exists and as you demonstrated, the opinions advanced in that post accurately represent those of the Burlingame family.

If a person were to impersonate, say, a member of Matthew Shepard's family that would not mean that Phelps' comments about Mr. Shepherd would be any less offensive.

In other news, box cutters are lethal weapons.

 
At 13 July, 2006 13:26, Blogger Murdervillage said...

JoanBasil said...
They got guns on the same way they figured out how to evade NORAD.

But they decided to kill people with knives instead? Or do you suppose the guns had bayonets attached?

 
At 13 July, 2006 13:48, Blogger shawn said...

They got guns on the same way they figured out how to evade NORAD.

Yes, they needed to evade NORAD to get on the flights.

Joan, as you're speaking from ignorance and I'm not, I can tell you you cannot just walk on a plane with a gun.

 
At 13 July, 2006 13:51, Blogger apathoid said...

Roger...
No, this is another example of sheep being sheep. That post is as fake as fake gets.

The USS Saratoga...


She mentioned the Sara....oooooh the faker!! I see that psychology isnt particularly a strong point of yours, Roger. Nor is research.

On Saturday, September 8, Naval aviator and former Saratoga shipmate Charles "Chic" Burlingame was mowing the lawn at his Virginia home, listening to the Navy-Georgia Tech football game...while wearing his USS Saratoga cap.

"He loved that cap and his association with Saratoga," said his wife Sheri, an American Airlines flight attendant. "That was the last cap he wore before putting on his uniform for his flight on Tuesday," she said quietly. "The Saratoga cap is still hanging on the peg in the laundry room where he hung it."

"He loved the Navy," said his younger sister Debra Burlingame, an attorney from Los Angeles. "Chic actively participated in a foundation that mentored young people considering attending Annapolis and a career in the Navy."


from 911research

Why on earth would Wendy B mention the Saratoga? Its not like her father loved it or anything...

If she's not who she claims to be, it should be easy to prove Roger, show us. We can admit to being wrong, unlike most of you CT'ers. I'm sure by now you've PMed her/emailed her from the LC forums.

 
At 13 July, 2006 13:58, Blogger Sword of Truth said...

"Pat,
You're not getting my point. Words like "a--hole" and "F--k" are filthy.


So is accusing thousands of police officers, firefighters, federal agents, US servicemen, Canadian servicemen and every structural engineer in the world of participating in and covering up the murder of thier countrymen with nothing but ouright lies and innuendo as your evidence.

Go ____ yourself, Al-Queada scum.

 
At 13 July, 2006 14:37, Blogger Alex said...

The reason you don't see boxcutter fights in movies its it would be unconvincing.

Actualy, you're absolutely right. It WOULD be unconvincing. Also, a granade going off would be quite unconvincing. That's why holywood takes liberties, and every granade explosion causes a massive fireball. People expect it to look powerfull, so that's what holywood gives you. Same thing with an RPG HEAT round hitting a vehicle. In the movies you get massive explosions which tear apart the entire vehicle and look like a 2000lb bomb hit the thing. In real life, they make a hole the size of a dime. Don't look "convincing" at all on tape. But they sure are effective.

Joan, as you're speaking from ignorance and I'm not, I can tell you you cannot just walk on a plane with a gun.

I gotta disagree Shawn - it happened a couple times before 9/11, so it's quite possible that some of them could have smuggled a gun on board. If all 19 of them tried to do it, at least one of them could have gotten through.

The problem is, the other 18 woiuld have gotten caught. So they'd have to be a bunch of utter morons in order to actually PLAN to take guns on board. And judging from their methods and accomplishments, they were the furthest thing for being morons.

 
At 13 July, 2006 14:38, Blogger shawn said...

The problem is, the other 18 woiuld have gotten caught.

That's my point.

 
At 13 July, 2006 14:46, Blogger shawn said...

Getting a gun on board a plane is quite rare, that two men from the same aiport on the same day would be able to smuggle them on is just ridiculous (and even more ridiculous since this scenario would have to play out twice).

I live outside of Boston. I've been to Logan countless times. My parents both work there (my mom's under ICE [per 9-11 was the INS], my dad's port director for Homeland Security).

 
At 13 July, 2006 14:52, Blogger Manny said...

Ah, so you're a shill! ;)

 
At 13 July, 2006 14:55, Blogger shawn said...

Ah, so you're a shill! ;)

Indeed.

Part of my digust with these people is my dad - the smartest, most honest, individual-thinking person I've ever met would've had to be in on this nonsense.

 
At 13 July, 2006 15:37, Blogger Alex said...

Part of my digust with these people is my dad - the smartest, most honest, individual-thinking person I've ever met would've had to be in on this nonsense.

But it's gotta make you wonder...that new mansion you moved in to on 9/12...all those Lambourghinis and Hummers sitting in your garage....could they really be just a coincidence? :)

 
At 13 July, 2006 15:41, Blogger shawn said...

But it's gotta make you wonder...that new mansion you moved in to on 9/12...all those Lambourghinis and Hummers sitting in your garage....could they really be just a coincidence? :)

Hmmm you make a valid point. And there is the question of our new Gulfstream.

 
At 13 July, 2006 18:01, Blogger roger_sq said...

So you have proof of this, yes?
Maybe you should go ahead and show it to us...


You want me to PROVE someone is not something.

Aw c'mon Shawn, you aren't gonna leave me hangin' on this one are you? That's logic 101, chime in please my beautiful black brother!

Oh wait, you asked me to do the same thing somewhere else.

Dylan Avery would be so proud. Too bad you guys don't have his talent eh? Then you wouldn't have to be hangers on, but either way you hae blown your integrity all to hell here.

 
At 13 July, 2006 18:07, Blogger shawn said...

Aw c'mon Shawn, you aren't gonna leave me hangin' on this one are you? That's logic 101, chime in please my beautiful black brother!

See what you do here is you prove the person who posted this is.

When boggle continually hounded me to prove a negative, I just proved the positive of how many less people were dying each year in Afghanistan thanks to American intervention.

 
At 13 July, 2006 18:07, Blogger shawn said...

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At 13 July, 2006 18:09, Blogger shawn said...

Dylan Avery would be so proud. Too bad you guys don't have his talent eh?

He can't write, he can't narrate, and can't think critically. He made a supremely amateur documentary that a bunch of morons on the internet latched to (hmmm sounds like a certain Mr. Jones).

Well, yeah, I guess I am jealous.

 
At 13 July, 2006 18:09, Blogger roger_sq said...

I live outside of Boston. I've been to Logan countless times. My parents both work there (my mom's under ICE [per 9-11 was the INS], my dad's port director for Homeland Security).

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Well that's interesting. No shawn, you're dad's not "IN" on it, he scored a kick ass pork barrel job. Mom at least got a raise I hope.

That's some powerful shit there, junior, thanks for sharing.

You should ask your dad why we're subcontracting cargo inspection to a company in the Bahamas owned by a Chinese company with direct ties to the Chinese military.

Is that to save a couple bucks? Or is it just good old fashioned treason? I'd love his opinion on the matter.

 
At 13 July, 2006 18:10, Blogger shawn said...

but either way you hae blown your integrity all to hell here.

This coming from the guy who doesn't think the Cold War happens and says he knows where JFK's brain is but won't let us in on the goods.

 
At 13 July, 2006 18:14, Blogger roger_sq said...

See what you do here is you prove the person who posted this is.

Alright then. I posted it. I'm wendyb. But I REALLY thought you guys would see through it, I'm disappointed...though my expectations were low enough that I'm not THAT disappointed.

Thanks for the chuckle!

 
At 13 July, 2006 18:16, Blogger roger_sq said...

This coming from the guy who doesn't think the Cold War happens and says he knows where JFK's brain is but won't let us in on the goods.

You never replied re Golitsyin.

And shwan, about the brain- I'd tell you, but you know, then I'd haveta...

Shhhhhhh.

 
At 13 July, 2006 18:17, Blogger shawn said...

Alright then. I posted it. I'm wendyb. But I REALLY thought you guys would see through it, I'm disappointed...though my expectations were low enough that I'm not THAT disappointed.

So you were blocked, but they just let you make another username?

Sorry if I don't believe an idiot man-child, but I'm gonna need a little more evidence.

 
At 13 July, 2006 18:19, Blogger shawn said...

You never replied re Golitsyin.

First you have to tell me if you believe him or not. Your question is if I knew of him, and I do. I then asked you if you believed him or not. Quid pro quo.

Oh, you also have never explained the JFK conspiracy thing. So I guess it's ok if you ignore everyone else's questions as long as yours are answered, isn't that right, pookie?

 
At 13 July, 2006 18:41, Blogger roger_sq said...

So you were blocked, but they just let you make another username?

Yeah, rocket science I know.

Sorry if I don't believe an idiot man-child, but I'm gonna need a little more evidence.

Go ahead, I'm waiting...

 
At 13 July, 2006 18:46, Blogger roger_sq said...

First you have to tell me if you believe him or not. Your question is if I knew of him, and I do. I then asked you if you believed him or not. Quid pro quo.

And tragic it is to see that you can't form a basis for your argument until you know which side to establish. School of Rhetoric strikes again. What school DID you go to...I want to be sure not to send my kids there. Alright, yes I believe he was what who he claimed to be for the most part.

you also have never explained the JFK conspiracy thing. So I guess it's ok if you ignore everyone else's questions as long as yours are answered, isn't that right, pookie?

I'm tryimg to but you are soooooo far down the road of horseshit it's gonna be a long walk back. Especially if you won't move along ex qiod pro quo.

 
At 13 July, 2006 18:47, Blogger MarkyX said...


Dylan Avery would be so proud. Too bad you guys don't have his talent eh? Then you wouldn't have to be hangers on, but either way you hae blown your integrity all to hell here.


What talent? The guy didn't get past a second-tier film school. He saw the market of stupid rich kids willing to believe that George Bush is a butcher, and market it.

It worked for Michael Moore, worked for numerous anti-bush authors, and worked for several journalists.

I should've joined the bandwagon :(

 
At 14 July, 2006 04:54, Blogger apathoid said...

Roger, first off - grow up, you are acting like a child.
Second, I almost agree with you that one cannot really disprove a negative(unless you have the ability to prove the opposite - do you?) But this is not a court of law, and we are just curious as to what your evidence was other than "USS Saratoga...." "fake as fake gets" and general histrionics over Wendy B. Can you produce anything that remotely resembles evidence of your claim?

You see Roger, being a CTer hobbyist with goofy beliefs(and disbeliefs), your brain doesnt quite work like most human brains. There is something wired backwards in there and it impairs your ability to reason like a normal person. You don't have to take my word for it, see a shrink some time...

Back to the longest sentence in the history of mankind for a moment....

Because anyone with any depth perception can determine that the internet is a bottomless morass of about 1 billion human beings from all walks of life and background, some of whom are in fact at war with each other as I type, and bouncing around the blogosphere setting the record straight, and take personal offense at the rantings of complete strangers, in the hopes of getting everyone's beliefs and opinions to fall in line is akin to roaming california scrubbing graffitti off of bathroom stalls, and anyone who actually honored the loss of a loved one probably wouldn't bother?

I'm trying to see things from your perspective here. Hypothetically, if one of us was to write horrible statements about your mother or father in front of thousands of strangers, you would let that slide if you found it? Is that correct?

 
At 14 July, 2006 04:58, Blogger apathoid said...

Alright then. I posted it. I'm wendyb. But I REALLY thought you guys would see through it, I'm disappointed...though my expectations were low enough that I'm not THAT disappointed.

Ok, I'll play along. I left you, WendyB, an email and PM - what did they say?

You see, I just proved it WASN'T(a negative) you who wrote that message.

 
At 14 July, 2006 05:00, Blogger Alex said...

School of Rhetoric strikes again. What school DID you go to...I want to be sure not to send my kids there.

They're going to let YOU have kids?

*shudder*

Now THAT is scary.

I never thought I'd be in favour of forced vasectomies, but the truth movement has made me re-consider that particular issue.

 
At 14 July, 2006 05:56, Blogger LT said...

from the message board...

"These are not theories! they are COLD HARD FACTS!!! Have you watched Loose Change2??"

ROTFLMAO....This is a post from one of the "truthers" explaining to Ms Burlingame what "really" happened on her father's airliner that day. Reliable evidence eh???

 
At 14 July, 2006 08:11, Blogger shawn said...

And tragic it is to see that you can't form a basis for your argument until you know which side to establish.

No. I can form my argument. I think the guy was wrong, as he said the collapse of Communism was a feint so that they could come back. Obviously what he says hasn't come true.

I just wanted to see what you had to say before I said that.

Oh look I read further down your post and you do believe in him and I don't. Weird.

I'm tryimg to but you are soooooo far down the road of horseshit it's gonna be a long walk back.

Why do you continue to project?

 
At 14 July, 2006 08:14, Blogger shawn said...

Oh, and roger, you fall under that group of idiots that think to acquire thinking skills you go to school.

Did you even go to school? No one who ever went to high school or college would agree that they teach you logical discourse. They give you knowledge, but beyond that, you're on your own.

Look up the word "autodidact" sometime.

 
At 14 July, 2006 14:44, Blogger Alex said...

That's the problem it seems. I'm thinking we need to implement mandatory courses on Basic Logic in highschools. It would (hopefuly) make a lot of these conspiracy theories go away.

 
At 24 July, 2006 00:19, Blogger Decider said...

Gee did you feel this sick when Ann Coultergeist called some of the 9/11 victims Harpies?

 
At 06 December, 2006 06:01, Blogger PhilBiker said...

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Dylan Avery and his buddies are no better than the Reverend Fred Phelps and his evil brood.

They are worse. And that's saying a lot.

 
At 23 September, 2007 16:29, Blogger Gator said...

You know, some time has passed, but now I'm wondering if Burlingame played along with the flight over the Pentagon, landed at Dulles and then him, along with everyone on-board, were greeted by "thugs" that killed them. Dulles doesn't have terminal gates, you have to board a motorized house flatbed, which takes you to the Main Building. You can kill a whole plane-load of people in one of those things !

 

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