Wednesday, July 12, 2006

Loosers Yuck It Up Over Box Cutters; Get Put In Place by Pilot's Daughter

Over at this thread the $%#!@s at the Loose Change forum are having a grand old time laughing about the pilots of the planes getting killed with box cutters, when they get slammed by Wendy Burlingame, daughter of the pilot of the plane that crashed into the Pentagon.



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I've said it before and I'll say it again: Dylan Avery and his buddies are no better than the Reverend Fred Phelps and his evil brood.

30 Comments:

At 13 July, 2006 00:26, Blogger Billythekid said...

"(...) and you cannot tell that "wendyb" is a complete and total work of fiction extracted from a half dozen obits found on Google?"

This is what happens all the time. When loudmouthed Truthers are suddenly confronted by real victims...denial!

Real eyewitnesses were "made up" or bribed, and real victims get this story: Hey, we don't know what happened to your father, but believe us, the official story is not true!

 
At 13 July, 2006 03:23, Blogger shawn said...

That'll wear off, but the stupid is probably going to stick with you.

Endless source of irony.

 
At 13 July, 2006 07:31, Blogger telescopemerc said...

murdervillage,
theres a reason why you don't see boxcutter fights in movies.


Yeah, they don't look good, they tend to hide on the hand, they're messy, you can't flip 'em around stylishly like a Bowie Knife, Wire fighting with boxcutters looks silly, You can't 'Flynn-parry' like you do with a sword. In short, they don't film well.

Also, boxcutter fight implies that both parties have boxcutters. In most real-life cases it is usually one person with a boxcutter, the other with nothing.

That doesn't mean they aren't deadly or intimidating.

I take this comment to show that once again, CT'ers get most of their information about how the world works from movies.

 
At 13 July, 2006 07:36, Blogger Manny said...

telling me to "F--k off" - for WHAT?

For being an evil, lying, disgusting advocate for the terrorists who perpetrated the September 11th attacks on America.

Hope that helps.

 
At 13 July, 2006 07:47, Blogger Barry said...

You are a complete moron. People aren't who they say they are on the Internet.

Please show me where the proof is that she is who she says she is.

This whole site is a goverment ploy to try and brainwash people into believing their CRAP!

In your video, all you do is pick at wording and sentace construction. You question the fact that it is dedicated to those lives lost on 9/11 and not the actual facts. You have none of your own evidence to prove anything.

Loose change is a fabulous video, you've just been paid by government officials (or you are one). The American government are a bunch of child fuckers, they are scared now that people have seen through their piles of bullshit and are running with their tails between their legs. Haha, go join them you cunt.

 
At 13 July, 2006 08:28, Blogger Pat said...

Pat and James, I know you read these comments. You gotta take a moment away from criticizing every piddly comment made by someone on the Loose Change boards and respond to markyx telling me to "F--k off" - for WHAT?

Nobody put a gun to your head....

But she does have a point. I know that emotions can get raw, particularly on a post like this. Let's remember to play the ball, not the man. Ad hominems do not convince the undecided middle.

That said, Joan, how in the world do you think the hijackers got guns on the airplane?

 
At 13 July, 2006 11:12, Blogger telescopemerc said...

The reason you don't see boxcutter fights in movies its it would be unconvincing.

So the fact that something doesn't film well means that it is unusable as a weapon? Tell that to the folks who've had their faces slashed by boxcutters. Maybe you'll get a face full of 'convincing'.

They got guns on the same way they figured out how to evade NORAD.

That is not an explanation. That is an incredibly bad similie, especially in light of what NORAD was designed to do. (Hint: It wasn't taking doen domestic flights).

How did they get the guns on board, joan.

 
At 13 July, 2006 13:03, Blogger James B. said...

I don't know for certain that it is her, but if you have any evidence to the contrary, please share it with the rest of us.

 
At 13 July, 2006 13:10, Blogger shawn said...

Nobody put a gun to "Wendy Burlingame's" head and forced her to read message boards. I do think that the pilots were overtaken by guns to the head, though. The boxcutter/plastic knives stuff - no.

Yeah, it's really easy to get on a plane with guns.

Loose change is a fabulous video, you've just been paid by government officials (or you are one).

Oh it's a fabulous example of how not to make a fact-based documentary.

No, this is another example of sheep being sheep.

That irony again, roger. You gotta watch it.

but if you have any evidence to the contrary, please share it with the rest of us.

He never has evidence. All's he does is say "wrong" or "I know the truth!" and then ironically belittle others.

 
At 13 July, 2006 13:19, Blogger Manny said...

James,

I'd say that whether that particular poster is Ms. Burlingame or an imposter is largely irrelevant to your larger point that the Loosers are no better than the Phelpses. It's true that Ms. Burlingame exists and as you demonstrated, the opinions advanced in that post accurately represent those of the Burlingame family.

If a person were to impersonate, say, a member of Matthew Shepard's family that would not mean that Phelps' comments about Mr. Shepherd would be any less offensive.

In other news, box cutters are lethal weapons.

 
At 13 July, 2006 13:48, Blogger shawn said...

They got guns on the same way they figured out how to evade NORAD.

Yes, they needed to evade NORAD to get on the flights.

Joan, as you're speaking from ignorance and I'm not, I can tell you you cannot just walk on a plane with a gun.

 
At 13 July, 2006 13:58, Blogger Sword of Truth said...

"Pat,
You're not getting my point. Words like "a--hole" and "F--k" are filthy.


So is accusing thousands of police officers, firefighters, federal agents, US servicemen, Canadian servicemen and every structural engineer in the world of participating in and covering up the murder of thier countrymen with nothing but ouright lies and innuendo as your evidence.

Go ____ yourself, Al-Queada scum.

 
At 13 July, 2006 14:37, Blogger Alex said...

The reason you don't see boxcutter fights in movies its it would be unconvincing.

Actualy, you're absolutely right. It WOULD be unconvincing. Also, a granade going off would be quite unconvincing. That's why holywood takes liberties, and every granade explosion causes a massive fireball. People expect it to look powerfull, so that's what holywood gives you. Same thing with an RPG HEAT round hitting a vehicle. In the movies you get massive explosions which tear apart the entire vehicle and look like a 2000lb bomb hit the thing. In real life, they make a hole the size of a dime. Don't look "convincing" at all on tape. But they sure are effective.

Joan, as you're speaking from ignorance and I'm not, I can tell you you cannot just walk on a plane with a gun.

I gotta disagree Shawn - it happened a couple times before 9/11, so it's quite possible that some of them could have smuggled a gun on board. If all 19 of them tried to do it, at least one of them could have gotten through.

The problem is, the other 18 woiuld have gotten caught. So they'd have to be a bunch of utter morons in order to actually PLAN to take guns on board. And judging from their methods and accomplishments, they were the furthest thing for being morons.

 
At 13 July, 2006 14:38, Blogger shawn said...

The problem is, the other 18 woiuld have gotten caught.

That's my point.

 
At 13 July, 2006 14:46, Blogger shawn said...

Getting a gun on board a plane is quite rare, that two men from the same aiport on the same day would be able to smuggle them on is just ridiculous (and even more ridiculous since this scenario would have to play out twice).

I live outside of Boston. I've been to Logan countless times. My parents both work there (my mom's under ICE [per 9-11 was the INS], my dad's port director for Homeland Security).

 
At 13 July, 2006 14:52, Blogger Manny said...

Ah, so you're a shill! ;)

 
At 13 July, 2006 14:55, Blogger shawn said...

Ah, so you're a shill! ;)

Indeed.

Part of my digust with these people is my dad - the smartest, most honest, individual-thinking person I've ever met would've had to be in on this nonsense.

 
At 13 July, 2006 15:37, Blogger Alex said...

Part of my digust with these people is my dad - the smartest, most honest, individual-thinking person I've ever met would've had to be in on this nonsense.

But it's gotta make you wonder...that new mansion you moved in to on 9/12...all those Lambourghinis and Hummers sitting in your garage....could they really be just a coincidence? :)

 
At 13 July, 2006 15:41, Blogger shawn said...

But it's gotta make you wonder...that new mansion you moved in to on 9/12...all those Lambourghinis and Hummers sitting in your garage....could they really be just a coincidence? :)

Hmmm you make a valid point. And there is the question of our new Gulfstream.

 
At 13 July, 2006 18:07, Blogger shawn said...

Aw c'mon Shawn, you aren't gonna leave me hangin' on this one are you? That's logic 101, chime in please my beautiful black brother!

See what you do here is you prove the person who posted this is.

When boggle continually hounded me to prove a negative, I just proved the positive of how many less people were dying each year in Afghanistan thanks to American intervention.

 
At 13 July, 2006 18:07, Blogger shawn said...

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At 13 July, 2006 18:09, Blogger shawn said...

Dylan Avery would be so proud. Too bad you guys don't have his talent eh?

He can't write, he can't narrate, and can't think critically. He made a supremely amateur documentary that a bunch of morons on the internet latched to (hmmm sounds like a certain Mr. Jones).

Well, yeah, I guess I am jealous.

 
At 13 July, 2006 18:10, Blogger shawn said...

but either way you hae blown your integrity all to hell here.

This coming from the guy who doesn't think the Cold War happens and says he knows where JFK's brain is but won't let us in on the goods.

 
At 13 July, 2006 18:17, Blogger shawn said...

Alright then. I posted it. I'm wendyb. But I REALLY thought you guys would see through it, I'm disappointed...though my expectations were low enough that I'm not THAT disappointed.

So you were blocked, but they just let you make another username?

Sorry if I don't believe an idiot man-child, but I'm gonna need a little more evidence.

 
At 13 July, 2006 18:19, Blogger shawn said...

You never replied re Golitsyin.

First you have to tell me if you believe him or not. Your question is if I knew of him, and I do. I then asked you if you believed him or not. Quid pro quo.

Oh, you also have never explained the JFK conspiracy thing. So I guess it's ok if you ignore everyone else's questions as long as yours are answered, isn't that right, pookie?

 
At 14 July, 2006 05:00, Blogger Alex said...

School of Rhetoric strikes again. What school DID you go to...I want to be sure not to send my kids there.

They're going to let YOU have kids?

*shudder*

Now THAT is scary.

I never thought I'd be in favour of forced vasectomies, but the truth movement has made me re-consider that particular issue.

 
At 14 July, 2006 08:11, Blogger shawn said...

And tragic it is to see that you can't form a basis for your argument until you know which side to establish.

No. I can form my argument. I think the guy was wrong, as he said the collapse of Communism was a feint so that they could come back. Obviously what he says hasn't come true.

I just wanted to see what you had to say before I said that.

Oh look I read further down your post and you do believe in him and I don't. Weird.

I'm tryimg to but you are soooooo far down the road of horseshit it's gonna be a long walk back.

Why do you continue to project?

 
At 14 July, 2006 08:14, Blogger shawn said...

Oh, and roger, you fall under that group of idiots that think to acquire thinking skills you go to school.

Did you even go to school? No one who ever went to high school or college would agree that they teach you logical discourse. They give you knowledge, but beyond that, you're on your own.

Look up the word "autodidact" sometime.

 
At 14 July, 2006 14:44, Blogger Alex said...

That's the problem it seems. I'm thinking we need to implement mandatory courses on Basic Logic in highschools. It would (hopefuly) make a lot of these conspiracy theories go away.

 
At 23 September, 2007 16:29, Blogger Gator said...

You know, some time has passed, but now I'm wondering if Burlingame played along with the flight over the Pentagon, landed at Dulles and then him, along with everyone on-board, were greeted by "thugs" that killed them. Dulles doesn't have terminal gates, you have to board a motorized house flatbed, which takes you to the Main Building. You can kill a whole plane-load of people in one of those things !

 

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