Thursday, July 27, 2006

Markyx Strikes Again!

Terrific video demonstrating the Loosers' callous attitude towards the passengers and pilots:

46 Comments:

At 27 July, 2006 10:39, Blogger apathoid said...

Terrific job Markyx. Its pretty hard to make my blood boil, but that video did it. I dont think that these idiots actually know what a box cutter looks like, or how absolutely knife-through-butter razor sharp these blades are.
I still have a scar across my index finger from when I cut myself with one 15 years ago. I remember thinking that the bleeding was never going to stop because it cut so deep....

In the right hand a knife/boxcutter is every bit as deadly as a handgun.

 
At 27 July, 2006 10:41, Blogger Chad said...

Very well done. I hope you emailed a link to Mother Avery.

 
At 27 July, 2006 11:00, Blogger CHF said...

I find it amazing that CTers think a knife is such an odd tool to hijack a plane with.

A guy in Turkey hijacked a plane with a teddy bear and a phony bomb in 1998!

When your victims are TRAINED not to offer resistance you can do just about anything.

Hell, if I wanted to I could rob a bank with NO WEAPON AT ALL! If I went up to a teller and said I had a gun/bomb/knife etc. they'd give me money no questions asked - and it's not because there's a conspiracy to help me rob banks!

 
At 27 July, 2006 11:32, Blogger Damian P. said...

What radio show did this come from?

 
At 27 July, 2006 11:34, Blogger default.xbe said...

i have a baxcutter where the handle and casing is made of plastic, in fact its all plastic except for the blade, does this count as a "plastic" knife?

and yeah, i used to work in a grocery store stocking shelves, i lost count of how many times i almost cut my finger off opeing a case of tampons

 
At 27 July, 2006 11:41, Blogger Killtown said...

"Oh please Mr. Hijacker, keep those boxcutters away from us 44-90 people!"

LoL! I can't believe you OCTs still by the boxcutter and small plastic knives theory!

Btw, boxcutters were only reported on Flt 77 buy Babs Olson's husband and BushCo member, Ted "the gov't lies" Olson as far as I know.

 
At 27 July, 2006 11:42, Blogger Killtown said...

Oh and Pat, still waiting for your conclusions about my Val McClatchey photo analysis.

 
At 27 July, 2006 11:44, Blogger apathoid said...

LoL! I can't believe you OCTs still by the boxcutter and small plastic knives theory!

We stand by it because we live in the real world where its entirely possible to kill someone with a knife, and because thats exactly what happened on 9/11...

 
At 27 July, 2006 11:44, Blogger Manny said...

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At 27 July, 2006 11:46, Blogger Manny said...

Oh and Pat, still waiting for your conclusions about my Val McClatchey photo analysis.

And I'm still waiting for you to decide which specific member of the New York City Fire Department you'd like to libel next, since your first choice was murdered by terrorists before he could accomplish the task you assigned to him. Any progress on that? Or at least an apology to Chief Ganci?

 
At 27 July, 2006 11:49, Blogger Killtown said...

That's what happened huh, because the powers-at-be told you? Sheep.

As soon as one passenger was hurt/killed by a boxcutter weilding person, you'd have 43-89 people bum-rushing them and on top of them.

Why didn't all those seasoned military men on Flt 77 do anything? Were they all "scared" by those menacing boxcutters on board? LoL!

 
At 27 July, 2006 11:54, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

Suggestion:

first image in the video should be, telling the audience who is about to talk, what he is famous for (video Loose Change) and what he believes.

It will have a greater impact on the audience, when they then listen to his juvenile crassness.

Killtown;

I have worked in the ER, and I have treated wounds made with boxcutters, and let me tell you, they can not only give you a long wound, but also a very deep wound.

Beyond that, the hijackers threatened they had bombs.

I AM SICK AND TIRED OF CTs BELITTLING SUCH A HORRIBLE TRAGEDY BASED ON THEIR 20/20 HINESIGHT OF THE SITUATION.

"Thats rediculous...I would have hit him with my luggage, I would have ran at them and taken them in minutes...blah, blah, blah....what a bunch of heated S@#t!!

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE DONE IF 5 GD ARABS STOOD UP WITH ELONGATED WEAPONS IN THEIR HANDS, THREATENED TO BLOW UP THE PLANE WITH A BOMB, AND THEN CUT SOME OF THE ATTENDANTS WITH THOSE BLADES.

Something tells me, after you S*&t and pissed in your pants, you would probably have shut up and been a good little boy.

damn i am mad!!!

 
At 27 July, 2006 11:59, Blogger apathoid said...

"We have a bomb" I believe is what the hijackers said to the pax. Also, at this stage, it wouldve meant certain death to rush the hijackers because they were ready to die(unlike the pax) and were at the controls...
You see, most pre-9/11 hijackings(do you agree that aircraft have been hijacked by non-CIA operatives?) ended more or less peacefully because aircrews, and passengers as well, wanted to live so they obeyed the commands of the hijackers.

 
At 27 July, 2006 12:04, Blogger MarkyX said...

KillTown, I guess those people who are murdered by knives everyday are wusses.

If you think this is bad, you should when Dylan Avery talks about Bernard. I got 8 minutes done so far. It's going to more then the Loose Change crew.

 
At 27 July, 2006 12:14, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

here is the Fetzer top 10 link for you MarkyX

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fbP1lvmBY8

 
At 27 July, 2006 12:49, Blogger MarkyX said...

Nice, but I need VISUAL evidence for each one. I'm avoiding subtitles now.

 
At 27 July, 2006 13:05, Blogger shawn said...

LoL! I can't believe you OCTs still by the boxcutter and small plastic knives theory!

Btw, boxcutters were only reported on Flt 77 buy Babs Olson's husband and BushCo member, Ted "the gov't lies" Olson as far as I know.


Uh they also said they had bombs? S-s-s-trawman for the win.

Even if we pretend they didn't claim to have bombs - why would they resist? Since you (and seemingly every conspiracy loon) are so ignorant when it comes to history, and specifically the history of terrorism, I'll let you in on a secret - when people hijacked planes, they had their demands met and let people go. They didn't FLY FULLY FUELED AIRLINERS INTO SKYSCRAPERS.

By the way, how do you defend against a boxcutter (hell, even a plastic knife) nailing you from behind without knowing its coming? I could kill you with a Mach 3 from behind if I wanted to.

 
At 27 July, 2006 13:37, Blogger shawn said...

That's what happened huh, because the powers-at-be told you? Sheep

Oh no, we must be sheep! We don't listen to Killtown! (Damn, you people wouldn't understand irony if it came up and bit you on the behind.)

As soon as one passenger was hurt/killed by a boxcutter weilding person, you'd have 43-89 people bum-rushing them and on top of them.

Yeah, since there's been packed planes that didn't do that...Killtown, there's this thing called "history" and in this "history" things called "events" happen. Now we, as thinking individuals, take these "events" and judge present and/or future "events" on how the rest of this "history" followed.

I already explained how history ain't on your side, buddy.

 
At 27 July, 2006 14:15, Blogger Pat said...

The "plastic" knives were not the kind you use at a picnic; they're the ones advertised on TV, where the pitchman cuts a soda can in half, then uses it to slice a tomato. Because they were not made of metal, they will not show up on a metal detector.

 
At 27 July, 2006 14:23, Blogger Pat said...

KT, I left a comment on that post just now.

 
At 27 July, 2006 17:22, Blogger 911coverup said...

$3.98 boxcutter vs multi-trillion dollars defense system...who wins?

 
At 27 July, 2006 17:31, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

ummm, I am guessing the latter, but what the $%*^ does that have to do with what we are talking about.

 
At 27 July, 2006 17:59, Blogger MarkyX said...

You mean a trillion dollars is spent on airplanes?

And they still don't give pilots a gun.

 
At 27 July, 2006 18:02, Blogger default.xbe said...

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At 27 July, 2006 18:03, Blogger default.xbe said...

ummm, I am guessing the latter, but what the $%*^ does that have to do with what we are talking about.

the 6 trillion dollar man of course, he was seated in coach on all 4 flights....at the same time, unlike that 6 million dollar man who could only be in one place at a time

 
At 27 July, 2006 19:05, Blogger shawn said...

$3.98 boxcutter vs multi-trillion dollars defense system...who wins?

Because the defense system was specifically designed to stop people hijacking planes and crashing them all over?

Oh right, that never happened before.

You should pick up a Bible sometime. There's this story about a Philistine (big ol' brute) named Goliath who gets killed by a little boy named David.

 
At 27 July, 2006 20:38, Blogger Avery Dylan said...

Like hey man this comment?

$3.98 boxcutter vs multi-trillion dollars defense system...who wins?

Makes more sense when applied to:

$3.98 boxcutter vs. throat

I mean, that's what they were used on.

 
At 27 July, 2006 20:49, Blogger CHF said...

"$3.98 boxcutter vs multi-trillion dollars defense system...who wins?"

I'm sorry, maybe I'm misunderstanding the 911 official story.

Did the hijackers storm a military base, kill 5,000 Marines, blow up 50 tanks, shoot down 10 jets, knock out America's satelites, and then hijack 19 F-16s which they used to destroy the WTC and Pentagon - all with boxcutters?

Because if that's what happened then I guess you'd have a point.

But as far as I understand it, the hijackers went up against civil aviation and crews that was trained to offer no resistance.

I don't recall the hijackers defeating US military forces on the field of battle.

Do you?

 
At 27 July, 2006 21:18, Blogger shawn said...

But as far as I understand it, the hijackers went up against civil aviation and crews that was trained to offer no resistance.

Oh, come on, now you're losing logic. That's not fair, they don't stand a chance.

 
At 28 July, 2006 04:02, Blogger 911coverup said...

How long do you supposedly think it takes to hijack a plane with boxcutters? Enough time for FAA, NEADS, NORAD and USAF to react. Are you getting it yet?

 
At 28 July, 2006 04:17, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

911coverup...

I am bored, your comments are boring, because those issues have been delt with on all the sites (SLC, SLC Forum, JREF Forum) zillions of times. They carry no weight here, as they have been explained and or debunked...so yes I am getting yet, I got it long ago, its crap...

 
At 28 July, 2006 04:42, Blogger 911coverup said...

Remember which airport AA77 left before reaching it's destination?

 
At 28 July, 2006 04:43, Blogger apathoid said...

How long do you supposedly think it takes to hijack a plane with boxcutters? Enough time for FAA, NEADS, NORAD and USAF to react.

I imagine the 80 minute unarmed intercept of Payne Stewarts Learjet is a conspiracy too??

Do you have evidence of ANY timely intercepts of civil aircraft operating in US airspace, at any time in the past?
Surely, there must be a few if youre so sure about 22-47 minutes being too long.
Do you have evidence of there being more than 14 armed fighters on alert at 7 differnent installations(excluding Andrews AFB) on the morning of 9/11??

Please share the overwhelming history of timely civil aircraft intercepts over the US, and how every fighter aircraft at NORADS disposal is armed with air-to-air missiles, and at the ready 24X7.

Are you getting it yet?
??
Are we getting baseless, uninformed, idle speculation by a horde of intellectually and mentally deficient teenagers(of all ages) who go around playing interent detective, chasing the shadows of entities that dont exist whilst apologizing for terrorists and denying any evidence that goes against your claims, which have no merit in eyes of hundreds of thousands if not millions of trained professionals in all 9/11 related fields...???
No, we arent getting it.

 
At 28 July, 2006 04:43, Blogger 911coverup said...

The pentagon had been hit 35 minutes after the second hit in NYC. Think about it...real hard...

 
At 28 July, 2006 04:49, Blogger apathoid said...

Remember which airport AA77 left before reaching it's destination?

And?? You may have a point if you can prove:
- Andrews had armed interceptors on alert the morning of 9/11.
- Armed interceptors were on alert at bases closer than Otis and Langley.
Can you do it?

 
At 28 July, 2006 05:00, Blogger apathoid said...

The pentagon had been hit 35 minutes after the second hit in NYC. Think about it...real hard...
Think about it? Am I supposed to be conjuring images from movies where pilots run out to their already armed, pre-flighted aircraft with no briefings and hop right in and take off, hit full afterbuner and cruise at Mach 2 and destroy the offending aircraft in less than 10 minutes? I've thought about. Its nonsense.

And way to ignore everything I said. This asking questions BS has gone on for 5 years, start showing us some evidence. Can you do it?

Find me some intercepts that took less time than the (would-be)911 intercepts, and you can start by explaining why Stewarts Learjet went unopposed for EIGHTY minutes.

 
At 28 July, 2006 05:31, Blogger MarkyX said...


How long do you supposedly think it takes to hijack a plane with boxcutters? Enough time for FAA, NEADS, NORAD and USAF to react.


Less then 15 minutes, since that is when the pilot door is open.

 
At 28 July, 2006 06:11, Blogger apathoid said...

AA 77 Timeline(abbreviated)

0856: AA77s transponder stops reporting and flight disappears from scopes, assumed to be crashed by Indianaplois Center.
0856-0910: AA 77 flying in a "hole" in FAA primary radar coverage, re-appeared at 0905, but not spotted.
0903: Secret Service wants fighters scrambled from nearby Andrews AFB, but no interceptors are armed.
0909: NORAD Commands Langley AFB to Battle Stations Alert.
0910: Washington FAA center finds unidentified aircraft(NORAD not informed)
0920: FAA Command Center Notifies Field Facilities That Flight 77 Is Lost; The Indianapolis flight controllers begin to doubt their assumption that Flight 77 has crashed and consider that it might be hijacked; Indianapolis Flight Control Reportedly Finally Learns of National Crisis and notifies NORAD of "lost AA77"
0921: NEADS reports that AA77(mistakenly referred to as AA11) is hijacked and heading for DC
0924: Langleys F-16 crews are scrambled
0930: F-16s airborne, heading for DC (155 miles away)
0930: ATC Dulles reidentifies AA 77 30 miles from Pentagon
0937: AA77 disappers from radar in vicinity of Washington National airport; hits SW facade of Pentagon
0937: Langleys F-16s still have not reached Washington.

Mass confusion and bureaucratic incompetenace? Definately.
Foul play? NO.

Hanlons Razor:
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity(or incompetance)

 
At 28 July, 2006 06:16, Blogger apathoid said...

Addendum to the above(for reference)

-AA11 impacts North Tower at 0847
-UA175 impacts South Tower at 0904

 
At 28 July, 2006 07:22, Blogger 911coverup said...

2 fighter jets were deployed 20 minutes after radio lost contact with stewert's plane...so i'm not sure where you got the 80 minutes from...? And the differences is that there was no hijackers in Stewart's private jet, like there were in the four large airliner civilian public boeing aircraft.

Why are you so fixated on stewert's private jet anyway? A total of 67 diverted flights had been intercepted and quickly accompanied by fighter jets in a year between june 2000 to sept 11, 2001.

 
At 28 July, 2006 07:30, Blogger 911coverup said...

Interesting. That time line makes absolutely no sense...

Also this was from NORAD's timesheet which was released on 9/18/2001

American Flight 77 –Dulles enroute to Los Angeles

FAA Notification to NEADS 0924

Fighter Scramble Order (Langley AFB, Hampton, Va. 2 F-16s) 0924

Fighters Airborne 0930

Airline Impact Time (Pentagon) 0937(estimated)

http://www.standdown.net/noradseptember182001pressrelease.htm

Why are you acting like it was the three stooges who worked in the FAA department?

 
At 28 July, 2006 07:44, Blogger apathoid said...

2 fighter jets were deployed 20 minutes after radio lost contact with stewert's plane...so i'm not sure where you got the 80 minutes from...?

I am getting 80 minutes from the NTSB report, where are you getting 20 minutes?(could it be that you did take the 1 hour time change into consideration)

At 0933:38 EDT (6 minutes and 20 seconds after N47BA acknowledged the previous clearance), the controller instructed N47BA to change radio frequencies and contact another Jacksonville ARTCC controller. The controller received no response from N47BA. The controller called the flight five more times over the next 4 1/2 minutes but received no response

About 0952 CDT,7 a USAF F-16 test pilot from the 40th Flight Test Squadron at Eglin Air Force Base (AFB), Florida, was vectored to within 8 nm of N47BA


A total of 67 diverted flights had been intercepted and quickly accompanied by fighter jets in a year between june 2000 to sept 11, 2001
Then it should be easy to point me to the NTSB/DoD reports that outline some or all of these 67 intercepts. I'm asking for just one though....

 
At 28 July, 2006 07:50, Blogger apathoid said...

Why are you acting like it was the three stooges who worked in the FAA department?

Why dont you cut these people some slack. Their job is to prevent planes from colliding, not to coordinate shootdowns of the planes they are supposed to be safely directing. They've never seen anything like what happened on 9/11 before, most have never dealt with regular crashes, much less hijackings.
There was no red-phone that patched the FAA to NORAD, they had to contact them the hard way. That has changed, so has any of the "holes" in radar coverage.
Mistakes were made. NORAD proved to be useless against interior threats, the lesson was learned; any future hijackers wont be succeeding in their missions...

 
At 28 July, 2006 07:51, Blogger Good Lieutenant said...

"Interesting. That time line makes absolutely no sense..."

Loose Change version 8 does make sense, though. After the next revision, we'll finally have the FINAL version of the "truth."

Why all the revisions? Shouldn't the original piece stand up to actual scrutiny?

I'll answer it - because the movie and the "theories" that propel the 9-11 Denial community are symptomatic of a larger infection that has taken over the left in this country. They know it, and we know it.

In addition, if you are going to make outlandish assertions involving secret covert military strikes on US citizens with $$$ going out all over to Jews and government officials, missles, controlled demolitions, etc. while completely dismissing the testimony of scientists, physicists, government officials, firemen, police officers, intel agents, rescue workers, actual vicims and family members of the attacks, then the burden is on the denial community to present that overwhelming evidence that they so often refer to but we never seem to see.

The burden is not on us to "disprove" the 9-11 deniers. There is more than enough evidence (as this blog and other sites and publications like Popular Science have demonstrated) to counter and dispell their ignorant rantings.

This is America - if you are going to make a charge, the burden of proof is on YOU. These CT are like defense attorneys trying to act like prosecutors - trying to build a case while simultaneously destroying their case (or ignoring those facts which destroy their case - namely, all of them).

Maybe they're saving the "big guns" for "Loose Change re-edited version 67: Now with MORE truthiness!"

 
At 28 July, 2006 10:15, Blogger MarkyX said...

Hey 911coverup, you know the difference between scramble and intercept, right?

 
At 28 July, 2006 10:48, Blogger apathoid said...

911coverup, all I asked for was proof of a single measly intercept of a civil aircraft over the US prior to 9/11...

Can you not provide evidence for a single one? After all, you claim there were 67, it should be easy.

 

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