Tuesday, August 15, 2006

Is Jim Fetzer a Nazi, or Just Stupid?

Yesterday I posted an interview with Jim Fetzer in which he (falsely) claimed that Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff and Popular Mechanics editor Benjamin Chertoff of being cousins, based off the neo-Nazi newspaper, the American Free Press. A reader pointed out in the comments that he also accused Michael Chertoff of having dual American-Israeli citizenship, based off, you guessed it, another article in the American Free Press.

The AFP website is down (thankfully) but here is a link to a mirror of the article:

CONTROLLED PRESS CONCEALS CHERTOFF'S ISRAELI ROOTS
By Christopher Bollyn
Exclusive to American Free Press

Michael Chertoff, the new head of the Department of Homeland Security, was approved in a 98-0 vote in the U.S. Senate without the question of his Israeli roots and nationality being raised.

On February 15, 2005, Michael Chertoff, an apparent dual national with Israeli roots, was sworn in as the second Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The new "homeland security czar," who oversees the U.S. Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services, seems to be hiding his own dual-national status all with the cooperation of the controlled press.
On what does he base this? Well, his mother worked in Israel for a while.

The omission of Chertoff's mother's Zionist past suggests that there is an effort by the media to conceal his ties to Israel and his status as a "de jure" Israeli national, by birth.

Under Israeli law, a child born to an Israeli citizen, including children born outside of Israel as first generation out of Israel, is considered an Israeli citizen. The child remains an Israeli national until he or she formally renounces their Israeli nationality.

Even worse (gasp) his mother was a flight attendent:

Chertoff was born on November 28, 1953 in Elizabeth, New Jersey, to the New York-born Rabbi Gershon Baruch Chertoff and Livia Eisen, the first hostess for El Al, Israel's state-owned airlines, founded in 1948.
Then Bollyn suggests a newspaper coverup, even though he admits that he isn't even sure of Chertoff's mother's citizenship:

Even in 1998, however, The Star-Ledger was vague about Livia's nationality. "Born in Poland, Mrs. Chertoff lived in Palestine and Elizabeth before moving to Florida several years ago," it wrote.

Israel's citizenship law of 1952 says: "Any Jew who immigrated to Israel before July 14, 1952, was granted citizenship after declaring a desire to reside permanently in Israel." As El Al's first hostess, Livia probably held Israeli citizenship.
The article gets even stupider from there. This whole thing is silly though, because even if Chertoff had "dual citizenship" even Bollyn doesn't claim it was based on anything he did. He never applied for it, lived there, or even intended to live there. His mom worked there as a flight attendent. Although I suppose for a Nazi, that is enough to condemn you.

This is perfectly legal based on US law incidently:

A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth.U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another. Also, a person who is automatically granted another citizenship does not risk losing U.S. citizenship. However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship.
Perhaps you are saying, James, I think the American Free Press is stupid, but aren't you a little over the top in calling it "neo-Nazi"? Well, that is a good question. Let's do a little research, since we know Uncle Fetzer won't.

The American Free Press was founded by a man named Willis Carto. Willis Carto also started a site called The Barnes Review. Here is a sample article from the Barnes Review. No, this is not a satire.







Christopher Bollyn has appeared on David Duke's radio show several times. And look, if you go to David Duke's website, look who all appears in his "links" section.

Links
Duke Radio Archive
The Council of Conservative Citizens
Stormfront Forum
The Truth at Last - Dr. Ed Fields\' website
American Free Press
E.U.R.O. - European American
Unity & Rights Organization
National Vanguard
American Renaissance
The Barnes Review
The Occidental Quarterly
The Institute for Historical Review (IHR) Noontide Press

Well I am glad "Distinguished McKnight University Professor of Philosophy at the University of Minnesota, Duluth" Jim Fetzer, only uses sources of the highest unimpeachable character.

31 Comments:

At 15 August, 2006 21:59, Blogger shawn said...

Poland attacked Germany?

Well, I guess if you count Germans 'capturing' their own radio station and broadcasting messages in Polish while leaving the body of an 'insurgent' behind - then yes, Poland attacked Germany.

Funny these nuts make up false-flag attacks, but ignore the real ones.

As many have said before - this is ideology not science.

 
At 15 August, 2006 22:37, Blogger Pat said...

I actually had the dual citizenship issue because I was born in Germany of American parents (on an Army base). It was a constant hassle during my youth because I didn't have a regular Birth Certificate; I had some document entitled "Report of Child Born Abroad to American Parents", which nobody wanted to accept (even the Catholic Church for my confirmation). So my mom did some research and found a way I could get a Birth Certificate. It required me to give up my right to any German citizenship. So we go in front of some judge, he asks me a couple questions and our application is accepted. And nobody ever asks for my Birth Certificate ever again.

 
At 16 August, 2006 00:24, Blogger nesNYC said...

Speaking of Nazis...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6759022809518563654

Some real history for shawn

 
At 16 August, 2006 04:19, Blogger Pepik said...

The dual citizenship claim is usually a code word for "jew", so this is pretty much what I expected. The conclusion is that Chertoff my be a distant cousin of a guy he has never met and who may theoretically be eligible for Israeli citizenship. Based on this, he is a mossad agent covering up 9/11.

 
At 16 August, 2006 05:37, Blogger apathoid said...

Is Jim Fetzer a Nazi, or Just Stupid?

Why not both, in addition to being certifiably insane.

 
At 16 August, 2006 08:11, Blogger shawn said...

Some real history for shawn

Nesnyc, you'll need to understand what "real history" is before trying to engage me in any kind of discussion of the subject.

 
At 16 August, 2006 09:09, Blogger nesNYC said...

Nesnyc, you'll need to understand what "real history" is before trying to engage me in any kind of discussion of the subject.

Not really. That you know as "real" is the propaganda version and has no validity in fact. Face it, you wasted your money in "school" getting the Zionist version of things. Wake up and smell reality.

 
At 16 August, 2006 09:16, Blogger apathoid said...

Wake up and smell reality.

You should've taken the blue pill, Neo.

Its still at your disposal, those Joos don't have to rule the world if you don't want them to.

 
At 16 August, 2006 09:23, Blogger nesNYC said...

You should've taken the blue pill, Neo.

Its still at your disposal, those Joos don't have to rule the world if you don't want them to.


No thanks. ED is for wimps, I'm fine in that department.

The holyco$t caper is not about "Joose" ruling the world. They are indeed victims of it to be corralled in a country that didn't want them namely, Palestine. Now the Zionist/Masonic/Ruling Class (note, NOT Joose) could use their cannon fodder to have endless wars with the Arabs and confiscate their wealth. Jews are as much a victim of Zionism as the rest of us. In fact, Zionism is designed to eventually destroy "Israel" and the Jews.

 
At 16 August, 2006 09:49, Blogger Pepik said...

nesync, are you aware that you are an embarrassment to the "just asking questions" mainstream (?) of the 9/11 Truth movement?

 
At 16 August, 2006 09:58, Blogger JoanBasil said...

Do you remember Golan Cipel, Gov. Jim McGreevey's Israeli-citizen lover that he appointed to head NJ Homeland Security? Why that position when there are so many positions a new Governor gets to appoint?

We have the AIPAC spying case going on right now, the Pollard spy case, the Weinmann spy case. Its not even a secret about people who have had high level influence in the Bush administration and the "Clean Break" strategy (http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm) That wasn't for America's benefit and neither was this war in Iraq that pro-Israel types got us into and that is draining and weakening this country. You have only to remember hurricane Katrina to know that Americans aren't high on Michael Chertoff's priorities.

 
At 16 August, 2006 10:01, Blogger Alex said...

Now the Zionist/Masonic/Ruling Class (note, NOT Joose) could use their cannon fodder to have endless wars with the Arabs and confiscate their wealth.

WHAT wealth? Most of the middle east is a worthless pile of sand. The only resources at their disposal are oil and antiques. Neither of which would recoup the ammount of wealth needed to capture them in the first place. Only someone utterly ignorant of basic economics could make such an idiotic statement. And that's without even getting into just how psychotic you'd have to be in order to beleive in a "Zionist/Masonic/Ruling Class".

 
At 16 August, 2006 10:02, Blogger Alex said...

Awesome, Joan's gone anti-semite too. Well, it was bound to happen sooner or later, what with the company she's been keeping since she joined the 9/11 denial movement.

 
At 16 August, 2006 10:09, Blogger nesNYC said...

nesync, are you aware that you are an embarrassment to the "just asking questions" mainstream (?) of the 9/11 Truth movement?

I don't give a shit about "just asking questions." I'm laying it down, telling it like it is. Too bad more "truthers" don't have a spine to just smack some sense into the foolish and stupid.

 
At 16 August, 2006 10:10, Blogger nesNYC said...

WHAT wealth? Most of the middle east is a worthless pile of sand.

Right, which is why billions are made off of it yearly. What planet you living in?

 
At 16 August, 2006 10:12, Blogger nesNYC said...

Awesome, Joan's gone anti-semite too. Well, it was bound to happen sooner or later, what with the company she's been keeping since she joined the 9/11 denial movement.

The Zionist regime are the real anti-Semites since they want to kill all Semitic Arabs. The Zionists themselves are jealous since they don't have Semitic blood and are Khazar in origin.

 
At 16 August, 2006 10:14, Blogger nesNYC said...

And that's without even getting into just how psychotic you'd have to be in order to beleive in a "Zionist/Masonic/Ruling Class".

Please get a clue. Didn't your "history" classes teach you about feudalism? What do you think those people just disappeared?

 
At 16 August, 2006 10:20, Blogger nesNYC said...

Awesome, Joan's gone anti-semite too. Well, it was bound to happen sooner or later, what with the company she's been keeping since she joined the 9/11 denial movement.

Joan is telling it like it is. The Zionist lobby is a fifth column in the US. They subvert our laws to their advantage and fool the stupid to go and die for Israel as is the case in Iraq and the coming war with Iran.

 
At 16 August, 2006 10:33, Blogger MarkyX said...


Right, which is why billions are made off of it yearly. What planet you living in?


Saudi Arabia isn't the majority of the Middle East.

 
At 16 August, 2006 10:45, Blogger nesNYC said...

Saudi Arabia isn't the majority of the Middle East.

Saudi Arabia is the only place there that produces "black gold?" I reiterate, what planet do you live on?

 
At 16 August, 2006 11:01, Blogger Alex said...

Didn't your "history" classes teach you about feudalism?

I'm not at all surprised that you don't understand the meaning of "feudalism". You know, I've never considered evolution to be a controversial topic, but the ability of people like you to survive past chidhood gives me pause. Maybe creationism IS a more plausible explanation. The existance of a God with a twisted sense of humour certainly would explain your continued existance.

 
At 16 August, 2006 11:06, Blogger JoanBasil said...

I don't have a link to this Henry Kissinger quote but I saw him say it on a documentary about the Israeli-Arab war that occurred when Nixon was President. He said that the Nixon Administration realized that because Israel had a small population, "every life was precious."

Our government had just been throwing American boys into the maw for years and years and by the hundreds of thousands, but every Israeli life was precious.

 
At 16 August, 2006 11:15, Blogger Alex said...

Our government had just been throwing American boys into the maw for years and years and by the hundreds of thousands, but every Israeli life was precious.

Yet another example of your clear ignorance. There's a reason why the US leads the way in armour technology, as well as developing tactics to decrease the number of casualties. Anyone who's had any sort of military experience, and who has had the pleasure of working along side the US military, will tell you that no country takes force-protection more seriously than the Americans. But, ofcourse, your civilian lifestyle is much better suited to judging foreign policy, military tactics, and the conduct of combat operations. Thanks for the input, I'm sure that with your credentials the US government will have no choice other than to immediately cease all combat operations and spend the next decade changing all aspects of foreign policy and military doctrine.

 
At 16 August, 2006 12:39, Blogger JoanBasil said...

alex,
Throwing hundreds of thousands of American boys into Vietnam and getting 58,000 killed and many more severely wounded was absolute contempt for American lives. What a ludicrous thing to argue, that the US government cares about "force protection" in wars they shouldn't be in in the first place! We all know about how contemptuous of American lives they were and how they lied, from the presidents on down. It was ego and not wanting to be the ones who "lost a war." American lives were not precious to our leaders then and they aren't today, when the current crew of liars is throwing them at a "new Middle East."

 
At 16 August, 2006 13:33, Blogger shawn said...

Our government had just been throwing American boys into the maw for years and years and by the hundreds of thousands, but every Israeli life was precious.

300 million people surrounded by ocean compared to 8 million surrounded by people who want them killed in the worst way.

Joan, perhaps you can tell the difference.

 
At 16 August, 2006 13:34, Blogger shawn said...

I actually agree with Joan on Vietnam in a sense. If they had flooded the country they would've had less deaths, as opposed to trickling in fighters over a decade and a half.

Although I know she didn't mean that.

 
At 16 August, 2006 16:39, Blogger default.xbe said...

Right, which is why billions are made off of it yearly. What planet you living in?

and the war in iraq is costing us what? trillions a year? sounds like a fair trade, we spend a trillion dollars to aquire a billion dollars worth of resources

or is math one of those "indoctrination" things we need to shake off?

Saudi Arabia is the only place there that produces "black gold?" I reiterate, what planet do you live on?

no, but SA and maybe kuwait are the only ones making good money off of it, iraq doesnt have crap, what do you think saddam invaded kuwait in '90 for?

Not really. That you know as "real" is the propaganda version and has no validity in fact. Face it, you wasted your money in "school" getting the Zionist version of things. Wake up and smell reality.

let me ask you again, how can you be sure you arent as indoctrinated as you claim we are? maybe the zionists are just innocent pawns of the interdimensional lizard people

 
At 16 August, 2006 17:21, Blogger shawn said...

Weird, I went to a college where almost everyone hated Israel. Guess that throws out your whole "indoctrination" idiocy.

 
At 16 August, 2006 20:28, Blogger MarkyX said...


Saudi Arabia is the only place there that produces "black gold?" I reiterate, what planet do you live on?


Where did you learn to read?

You said the "middle east" is making billions of dollars a year. I assumed you were talking about the entire region and not specifically Saudi Arabia.

Because if you think the entire middle east is driving in fancy cars and are the most enlightened people on earth...

As someone already stated, God is playing a nasty prank on us if you still exist.

 
At 17 August, 2006 11:55, Blogger Alex said...

What a ludicrous thing to argue, that the US government cares about "force protection" in wars they shouldn't be in in the first place!

What an idiotic thing to argue, that the US doesn't care about the lives of it's citizens simply because they happen to be fighting wars which you don't agree with.

People like you also argued against US involvment in WW2. They didn't consider it to be any concern of the US. They were wrong then, and you're wrong now. There will always be those amongst us who are too blind to see the neccesity of war untill it's too late. The kind of people who would have us "negotiate" with a known killer while he sits there reloading his rifle. For people like you, I have very little time. You can continue bitching about "unneccesary wars" all you want, but don't for a second presume to tell me about how much or how little the US government cares about the lives of it's soldiers.

 
At 31 October, 2007 06:09, Blogger Faktorie said...

Chertoff is an Israeli and US citizen:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chertoff

 

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