When Kevin Ryan Attacks
Earlier we linked to the excellent series of articles by Manuel Garcia (PhD Aerospace & Mechanical Engineering, Princeton). Now Kevin Ryan (BS, Chemistry) has written a piece attacking him. Of course Kevin can hardly be content with discussing the science of the issue, so he must include the paranoid claims of corruption.
With the case of Manuel Garcia, and his three recent, rapid-fire articles in Counterpunch, we appear to have another opportunity to examine the phenomenon of Bush science. Here we see a fully educated scientist making strong supportive statements of the Bush Administration’s 9/11 theories, despite the fact that he must know those theories are based on false or unsubstantiated claims. For our own understanding, let’s take a closer look at Manuel Garcia and his efforts.
Garcia not only works for the government, he works for a very interesting organization in terms of the best hypothesis for what happened that day. Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL), Garcia’s employer, appears to be where explosive thermite was invented, and it continues to be a focus of research there.(1) At LLNL, government scientists have learned how to combine the exothermic power of the thermite reaction with organic moieties to produce a thermite reaction that can do pressure/volume work (i.e. turn massive quantities of concrete and other building materials into dust). From the research of Steven Jones, we know that the thermite reaction likely played a role in bringing the towers down, and it would not be surprising if technology developed by LLNL was involved. Could that be why Manuel Garcia is so intent on seeing Physics that don’t exist, in order to avoid seeing links to technology developed by his employer?
He even goes on to mention Halliburton concentration camps. Do these people realize how bizarre they sound?
posted by James B. @ 12:38 PM
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7 Comments:
Kevin Ryan, at some point, perhaps just when 09/11 denial began, might have had some, some, degree of credibility. Now he is worse than the Fetzers and A. Jones, because he has a science background, and still proceeds to act and speak like a conspiracy loon. I feel his opinion on all matters but water testing is complete garbage...EOS.
TAM
Oh God, not the thermite crap again. I thought they'd finally given up trying to fit that particular square peg into the round hole....
Why is it that these clowns just make these crazy claims and never give proof. I would like to see some details on this explosive thermite. The fact that he works at Livermore means he is well qualified, unlike the whaks like Ryan.
He claims false or unsubstantiated claims but he and the toofers have never provided a shread of proof. Hundreds of qualified people agree with what happened and it is not a theory, unlike the whaks.
I guess we can't trust him either, since, by his own definition, he also worked for the Bush Administration.
No that would end up in a 911 call (ironic) to get the paramedics in to treat Fetzer when he blows a gasket during the debate.
TAM
Unfortunately, those folks usually turn out to either work for the Bush Administration directly, like FEMA and NIST,
Or they work for private companies, like many of the people involved in producing the NIST reports and studies (who frequently explain their involvement quite proudly on their own websites), or for private demolition companies, like Jowenko, ImplosionWorld, or literally dozens of private structural engineers who've written papers on the collapse, a number who have gotten themselves published, one who won an engineering award for their work on the collapses. Or the hundreds strong team of forensic experts. Or the FBI investigation.
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Or they work for private companies, like many of the people involved in producing the NIST reports and studies (who frequently explain their involvement quite proudly on their own websites), or for private demolition companies, like Jowenko, ImplosionWorld, or literally dozens of private structural engineers who've written papers on the collapse, a number who have gotten themselves published, one who won an engineering award for their work on the collapses. Or the hundreds strong team of forensic experts. Or the FBI investigation.
Well yeah, but dontcha see, their companies get paid by the government. Or another conspirator. So they're in on it, too!
I forget who it is, but one of the folks here has a healthy habit of asking Loosers who would they trust to do the new, independent investigation they all claim to be demanding and how would those people get paid for their work. He's never, ever received even an attempt at an answer.
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