Monday, January 15, 2007

David Ray Griffin on Debunking the Debunkers

It appears David Ray Griffin is going to be on Kevin Barrett's GCN radio show this afternoon, where he will address, among other things, his upcoming book Debunking the Debunkers.

From Kevin Barrett;
David Griffin will be my guest on gcnlive.com, (Network 2) 3-5 p.m. Central. We'll be discussing his forthcoming book Debunking the Debunkers, as well as his other 9/11 work, including the book he inspired that I helped edit, 9/11 and the American Empire v.2, which should be shipping next week:http://www.amazon.com/11-American-Empire-Christians-Muslims/dp/156656660...
Please feel free to call in at (800) 259-5791.
Kevin Barrett

I don't know if I will be able to catch it, but if anyone needs any debunking...

Good luck getting a response though. A forum offered "your questions answered" from DRG over a week ago, thus far no response.

28 Comments:

At 15 January, 2007 11:16, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is what the book will be like.

"Q. How come there are no structural engineers that think there were bombs in the towers"

"A. Because God sees these people as obvious subhumans who cannot reach the intellectual level I have."

or

"A. *puts hands over ears* la-la-la-la-la-la-la"

 
At 15 January, 2007 11:43, Blogger Unknown said...

These clowns will do anything for a buck. If they were sincere, they would sell it for cost as toilet paper

 
At 15 January, 2007 13:40, Blogger James B. said...

Because the 9/11 denial movement is a religious cult, based on emotion, feeling and a devout belief system, not reason and logic. He is a natural.

 
At 15 January, 2007 14:11, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Troy,

have you thought about starting a blog?

 
At 15 January, 2007 14:20, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Barrett knew that it was you, Troy......

 
At 15 January, 2007 14:51, Blogger Alex said...

Last time god threw a lightning bolt at me, I merely smiled, touched the nearest high-voltage cable, and powered the national grid for the next week.

True story.

 
At 15 January, 2007 14:57, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Troy,

Start you own talk show at talkshow.com

 
At 15 January, 2007 14:58, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry,

Talkshoe

 
At 15 January, 2007 15:16, Blogger James B. said...

Who are you quoting there temp?

 
At 15 January, 2007 15:51, Blogger shawn said...

"The other co-blogger, James B. is in the National Guard has his own
blog called the chief brief. He doesn't like using his real name. Ready for his favorites? PowerLine, LittleGreenFootballs, Michelle Malkin, Instapundit and more."


Oh my science! He's a conserative! Say it ain't so!

Ad hominem. Look it up.

 
At 15 January, 2007 17:01, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The other co-blogger, James B. is in the National Guard has his own blog called the chief brief.

Is that some sort of a crime?

He doesn't like using his real name.

With good reason, some fruit loop such as yourself could look up his name in the phone book and start making prank phone calls and junk mail to his address.

 
At 15 January, 2007 17:04, Blogger Alex said...

Hah, hey, I remember this idiot. She'd spend days blabbering on about CENTCOM and calling everyone atheists. It was actually amusing in a very morbid way.

Welcome back temper-tantrums! I've missed your particular brand of lunacy :) Come on, call me an atheist CIA agent again!! Got any new stories yet? What brand of tinfoil do you use these days?? It's been so long! You GOTTA tell me all about what you've been up to!

 
At 15 January, 2007 17:04, Anonymous Anonymous said...

For you so-called liberal atheists out there. pay attention to it. You are being used.

Judging from the last election, there are a ton of left-wingers in Congress but I still don't see any of them buying into this 9/11 "inside job" conspiracy crap. Might it be the total lack of evidence to back up these ludicrous assertions?

 
At 15 January, 2007 18:17, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The next round of gaot's blood is on me.

 
At 15 January, 2007 18:18, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Or even goat's blood, if you prefer... :-/

 
At 15 January, 2007 18:32, Blogger telescopemerc said...

So somehow beleiving in a bearded sky fairy makes one automatically good?

 
At 15 January, 2007 18:40, Blogger James B. said...

This blog has teamed up with the 101st Fighting Keyboardists--a group of ultra-right wingers, who have been lauded by the like of CENTCOM. The letters are readily available. They will post Centcom related crap.

Ultra-right wingers? Have you seen all the posts we have written criticizing both the far right and the far left? Please point out the posts written by CENTCOM.

 
At 15 January, 2007 19:26, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

tempestuous I use to think you were fiesty but at least sane...now I am doubting that second part.

None the less, you can be entertaining, so welcome back.

Yours truely...the non-atheist

TAM:)

 
At 15 January, 2007 21:30, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Temp"

If it's true about your pointing out the meaning of "pull it", I'm with ya.

 
At 15 January, 2007 21:57, Blogger Pat said...

Temp, we are both conservatives yes. The 101st Keyboardists we joined because it would give us a huge google bomb on "Loose Change"; we come up #5 on that term because so many blogs link us with "Screw Loose Change". In fact, I'm a little surprised the Loosers still manage to outdo us.

 
At 15 January, 2007 22:58, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So the 9/11 Truth freaks still tries to say the word "PULL" is industry speak for implosion?

Long before 911 I witnessed the implosion of the Old Hudsons Department store here in Detroit. At that time it was the tallest building to be destroyed with explosives. I distinctly remember a news story where the head man called the operation a DROP.

In fact for companies who do explosive implosion of building this is the common term, They DROP a building. Go ahead try and find an article written before 9/11 where the term PULL is used to mean implosion by explosives. If the word pull is used it's used in the common usage of the word, I.E. Pull down a wall, Pull up a latter, etc. Only in the 9/11 Conspiracy Theorist world will you find PULL and EXPLOSIVES directly connected.

Here is an internet story done in 1996 describing the implosion of The Pacific Palisades Hotel and some line I "PULLED" from that story.
LINK

"While the theory is simple, planning a successful drop is quite complicated."

"So, how much dynamite does it take to drop a twenty-two-story building?"

"gauging the amount of explosive to be used is key to a successful drop. "

Note the word drop is directly equated to explosives and dynamite.

So do truthers use explosives to PULL down their pants? Whose leg are they trying to PULL? BOOM!!

 
At 16 January, 2007 08:23, Blogger Alex said...

I just love the ide of Silverstein ordering the fire department to demolish a building. Only in a twoofer's mind would such a scenario merit any consideration, let alone debate.

 
At 16 January, 2007 09:59, Blogger Pepik said...

Check the questions asked of Griffin on the link. Mostly people fighting over how Griffin is a shill, plant, etc., asking why he won't finger the jews, and so on.

 
At 16 January, 2007 11:17, Blogger Alex said...

Where's the ad-hominem? I said that only in a twoofers mind would such a scenario merit any consideration. "Twoofer" is not exactly an insult, it's simply a descriptive term. It compasses those who insist that there was some grand conspiracy involving 9/11. And I was telling the literal truth - only in your minds would such a scenario merit any consideration.

So where's the ad-hominem?

Granted, I think all of you should be locked up in padded rooms, but my comment was in no way ad-hominem.

Maybe you'd like to explain just why Silverstein would be ordering the fire department to blow up a building? Since it's your idea, it really would be nice if you could explain just how exactly such an event came about. I'd love to see what kind of convoluted theory you come up with!

 
At 16 January, 2007 12:49, Blogger Alex said...

Did operation northwoods involve firefighters too?

Is there a World Wide Conspiracy of Firefighters? Are they like the new Illuminati or seomthing?

For sure the Tuskegee experiments involved firefighters. That goes without saying. After all, someone had to "pull" down those guys pants before they could be injected with syringes. Clearly firefighters would be best qualified for that job. With Silverstein supervising, ofcourse.

 
At 16 January, 2007 18:17, Anonymous Anonymous said...

CDI [Controlled Demolition Incorporated] planned the implosion to pull the building to the southeast and away from the intersection of SW 9th and Mulberry Street.-
July 7, 2001:



Note that pull is NOT use in direct regards to explosive implosion. They could just as well have said "planned the implosion to TUG, or MANEUVER or RESTRAIN the building to the southeast and away from the intersection of SW 9th and Mulberry Street."

Only truthers use Pull as being synonymous with implosions.

 
At 17 January, 2007 09:13, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"CDI [Controlled Demolition Incorporated] planned the implosion to pull the building to the southeast and away from the intersection of SW 9th and Mulberry Street.-"

The word "pull" here is used to describe the desired result of the implosion (to "pull" it in a certain direction). It's not a label for the activity.

 
At 17 January, 2007 18:20, Blogger Alex said...

Great, make sure you ask them how many firefighters were involved in pulling down their pants. Also, if they've got any pictures of Silverstein overseeing the experiment while wearing his Illuminati robes, that'd be great. Maybe we can finally uncover the Great Firefighter Plot!

 

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