In The Interests of Getting Us All on the Same Page
I think a lot of us have listened to the Prison Planet audio of this, noticed that there seems to be some skipping, and assumed that Alex Jones' minions fiddled with the tape to make it seem like Giuliani had some warning of the possibility that the Twin Towers would collapse.
As far as I can see, this is not the case. (Wrong: See update below) Skepticism is warranted when dealing with stuff from Jones, but in this case he just seems to have gotten hold of a bad tape. If you listen to the interview here, it seems abundantly clear that Giuliani was warned almost immediately prior to the collapse of the South Tower:
But, and this is the important point, there is no big mystery here. There were warnings prior to the collapse of South Tower. Battalion Chief John Peruggia:
I was in a discussion with Mr. Rotanz and I believe it was a representative from the Department of Buildings, but I'm not sure. Some engineer type person, and several of us were huddled talking in the lobby and it was brought to my attention, it was believed that the structural damage that was suffered to the towers was quite significant and they were very confident that the building's stability was compromised and they felt that the north tower was in danger of a near imminent collapse.
I grabbed EMT Zarrillo, I advised him of that information. I told him he was to proceed immediately to the command post where Chief Ganci was located. Told him where it was across the street from Number 1 World Trade Center. I told him "You see Chief Ganci and Chief Ganci only. Provide him with the information that the building integrity is severely compromised and they believe the building is in danger of imminent collapse." So, he left off in that direction.
We know from Zarillo's testimony that message was in fact delivered to Ganci immediately prior to the collapse of the South Tower:
As I was walking towards the Fire command post, I found Steve Mosiello. I said, Steve, where's the boss? I have to give him a message. He said, well, what's the message. I said the buildings are going to collapse; we need to evac everybody out. With a very confused look, he said who told you that? I said I was just with John (Peruggia) at OEM. OEM says the buildings are going to collapse; we need to get everybody out.
He escorted me over to Chief Ganci. He said, hey, Pete, we got a message the buildings are going to collapse. His reply was who the f*ck told you that? Then Steve brought me in and with Chief Ganci, Commissioner Feehan, Steve, I believe Chief Turi was initially there, I said, listen I was just at OEM. The message I was given was that the buildings are going to collapse; we need to get our people out. At that moment, this thunderous, rolling roar came down and that's when the building came down, the first tower came down.
I can't yet trace it to who actually warned Giuliani, but it is hardly surprising that he would be warned. I'll go through some more testimonies and see if it comes up.
Update: Jones or whoever provided him with his version of the tape did a little creative editing to make it seem like Giuliani had 10-15 minutes warning. But in fact he had almost none. Further details here.
Labels: Collapse Warning, Rudy Giuliani
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