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Tuesday, November 16, 2010
Shermer and the Dolts
Note how excitable the "Truthers" get, particularly Anthony J. Hall (loved him in 16 Candles).
"The campus security started to make overtures to Professor Hall, making him feel unwelcome in the lecture theatre."
Oh no, the Professor felt unwelcome. Maybe if he hadn't continually interrupted the speaker with remarks like "you're a denier", and "do some homework", the "thought police", as the English twit who made the video refers to the security, might not have had to intervene.
He also refer to Griffin as "the Dean of 9/11 studies", which tells you all you need to know.
Professor Hall has a screw loose. "Reporters failed to ask important questions"...which reporters? The one indisputable fact of 9/11 is that the WTC was ringed with over 1000 reporters, and hundreds of camera people.There are some questions that just didn't need to be asked because the answers are obvious to all but the troofers.
Griffen wasn't there, and his conclusions are based on mountains of evidence that he has chosen to ignore; instead focusing on his pet theories and making an ass of himself.Architects for Truth is not the same thing as a bunch of engineers or physicists, I can be certified as an arhcitect in 2 1/2 years, and while I would be able to redesign your kitchen or a getaway cottage I sure as hell would not be qualified to give a structural failure analysis on a unique structure like WTC7
I like it when Shermer agreed with Pat that it's impossible to tell iron from rust. Or when he agreed with Gutterbile that no one can distinguish iron melted in a 'conflagration' from iron that comes from concrete. Great stuff!
"Cosmos" (aka "Path Cowardly") prevaricates, "...I like it when Shermer agreed with Pat that it's impossible to tell iron from rust. Or when he agreed with Gutterbile that no one can distinguish iron melted in a 'conflagration' from iron that comes from concrete. Great stuff!"
Logical fallacy: Straw man argument.
I never made any such claim.
Furthermore, the video makes no mention whatsoever of "melted iron." Hallucinating today, shit-for-brains?
Again, for the 100th time, this is a link to the RJ Lee Report:
Cite the RJ Lee Report as concerns the source of the iron-rich and alumino-silicate spheres. A simple cut-and-paste from the RJ Lee Report will suffice.
You can't cite the RJ Lee Report as concerns the source of the iron-rich and alumino-silicate spheres?
Bit late this one, but an Aussie journalist reckons truthers are using their 'lizard brains'.
"And so it is with 9/11 conspiracy theories. Never before has bad information been able to be distributed so far, so quickly, to such a receptive audience."
(There has been a couple of truther story's in the press recently. One radio host called them idiots, as did the PM when a union official called for a new investigation. It aws 15 mins of fame for the Oz truthers)
Thanks, GB. Will listen to it tonight. Read some of the comments about it; the usual deluded nonsense. Doesn't surprise me that it's from a NZ station. A great country. Am going to buy a house or land there soon for my retirement.
Sure it's the same guy. Furthermore, the actor who played "Duckie" in that movie is the co-star of "Two and a Half Men" with truther extraordinaire Emilio Estevez. What does it all mean?
Keep posting the link, Gutterbile. The more you post it, the more people can read it, and see how it contradicts both your 'explanation' of the melted iron, and Pat's.
Did you figure out which one is 'retarded' for not buying into the other's nonsense yet, fatso?
On the contrary, fuck 'tard, the only thing people learn is that you can't substantiate your assertions (heavy emphasis on ass when dealing with a scat muncher like "Cosmos.")
You didn't answer my question, you PAThetic fat-ass. How does it feel to have Pat think you're 'retarded'? He says the spheres came from torches (that don't make spheres), making you a 'retarded' person. Why are you so afraid to address this issue?
I would change my ways if I were you: Pat took a science course once. He knows about stuff, even if it sounds like he has no idea. Watch yourself, tough guy.
It's not so much that 'I win', Ian, although your observation is flattering. It's that GutterBile, Fat Pat, and the entire pseudoskeptic circus has lost: they can't agree on where this evidence comes from, and both of them can't bring themselves to admit that the RJ Lee report contradicts their 'explanations' completely. If only they cared as much about the truth as you believe they do. Quick, GutterBile: post the link again!
"Cosmos" (aka "Path Cowardly") prevaricates, "...It's not so much that 'I win', Ian, although your observation is flattering. It's that GutterBile, Fat Pat, and the entire pseudoskeptic circus has lost...[blah][blah][blah]."
According to whom? A compulsive liar with the moral integrity of an Oakland International Blvd. street walker?
And I still don't see a citation from the RJ Lee Report.
So, given the harsh reality of your continued failure to substantiate your assertions (heavy emphasis on ass when dealing with an anal sphincter like "Cosmos"), who lost, shit-for-brains?
Thanks, Ian, I know. You're not the first person to tell me that on this blog, but for some reason, GutterBile and Fat Pat can't bring themselves to admit that they're clueless and mistaken about the evidence in this case, kind of like Mark Roberts. Makes you wonder how many other lies Pat and GutterBile spread around to the gullible idiots who believe they actually 'debunk' things.
...the entire pseudoskeptic circus has lost: they can't agree on where this evidence comes from, and both of them can't bring themselves to admit that the RJ Lee report contradicts their 'explanations' completely.
Sorry, what passage of the RJ Lee report was that again? I can't find it in my copy. Can you please help?
Uh, Pat Cowardly, do you mind addressing my other point? What do you do now? I mean, you've got an avalanche of evidence, so you're going to present it to a prosecutor, right? I mean, this is going to make you an international hero! What are you waiting for?
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This video is pretty old. But its typical truthers disrupting a presentation based on their nonsense.
"The campus security started to make overtures to Professor Hall, making him feel unwelcome in the lecture theatre."
Oh no, the Professor felt unwelcome. Maybe if he hadn't continually interrupted the speaker with remarks like "you're a denier", and "do some homework", the "thought police", as the English twit who made the video refers to the security, might not have had to intervene.
He also refer to Griffin as "the Dean of 9/11 studies", which tells you all you need to know.
Professor Hall has a screw loose. "Reporters failed to ask important questions"...which reporters? The one indisputable fact of 9/11 is that the WTC was ringed with over 1000 reporters, and hundreds of camera people.There are some questions that just didn't need to be asked because the answers are obvious to all but the troofers.
Griffen wasn't there, and his conclusions are based on mountains of evidence that he has chosen to ignore; instead focusing on his pet theories and making an ass of himself.Architects for Truth is not the same thing as a bunch of engineers or physicists, I can be certified as an arhcitect in 2 1/2 years, and while I would be able to redesign your kitchen or a getaway cottage I sure as hell would not be qualified to give a structural failure analysis on a unique structure like WTC7
I like it when Shermer agreed with Pat that it's impossible to tell iron from rust. Or when he agreed with Gutterbile that no one can distinguish iron melted in a 'conflagration' from iron that comes from concrete. Great stuff!
"Cosmos" (aka "Path Cowardly") prevaricates, "...I like it when Shermer agreed with Pat that it's impossible to tell iron from rust. Or when he agreed with Gutterbile that no one can distinguish iron melted in a 'conflagration' from iron that comes from concrete. Great stuff!"
Logical fallacy: Straw man argument.
I never made any such claim.
Furthermore, the video makes no mention whatsoever of "melted iron." Hallucinating today, shit-for-brains?
Again, for the 100th time, this is a link to the RJ Lee Report:
Source: WTC Dust Signature Report: Composition and Morphology: Summary Report, Prepared for: Deutsche Bank.
Cite the RJ Lee Report as concerns the source of the iron-rich and alumino-silicate spheres. A simple cut-and-paste from the RJ Lee Report will suffice.
You can't cite the RJ Lee Report as concerns the source of the iron-rich and alumino-silicate spheres?
Then STFU.
OT:
Bit late this one, but an Aussie journalist reckons truthers are using their 'lizard brains'.
"And so it is with 9/11 conspiracy theories. Never before has bad information been able to be distributed so far, so quickly, to such a receptive audience."
(There has been a couple of truther story's in the press recently. One radio host called them idiots, as did the PM when a union official called for a new investigation. It aws 15 mins of fame for the Oz truthers)
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/blogs/untangling-the-web/dont-get-caught-in-the-web-of-conspiracy-theory-truthiness/20101105-17gq1.html
Paul, here's one you may enjoy.
Kim Hill of New Zealand National Radio destroys Richard Gage. She literally dismantles the lying nut-bar.
Source: RadioDuJour.com: Kim Hill Destroys Richard Gage (mp3).
The link I posted took me to a Google page.
If it does for you, got to the top link:
'Don't get caught in the web of conspiracy theory truthiness'
www.smh.com.au
Thanks, GB.
Will listen to it tonight.
Read some of the comments about it; the usual deluded nonsense.
Doesn't surprise me that it's from a NZ station.
A great country. Am going to buy a house or land there soon for my retirement.
"Note how excitable the "Truthers" get, particularly Anthony J. Hall (loved him in 16 Candles)."
Its's not the same guy.
Its's not the same guy.
I think Pat was making a joke. Isn't it Anthony Michael Hall?
Its's not the same guy.
Sure it's the same guy. Furthermore, the actor who played "Duckie" in that movie is the co-star of "Two and a Half Men" with truther extraordinaire Emilio Estevez. What does it all mean?
Keep posting the link, Gutterbile. The more you post it, the more people can read it, and see how it contradicts both your 'explanation' of the melted iron, and Pat's.
Did you figure out which one is 'retarded' for not buying into the other's nonsense yet, fatso?
On the contrary, fuck 'tard, the only thing people learn is that you can't substantiate your assertions (heavy emphasis on ass when dealing with a scat muncher like "Cosmos.")
You didn't answer my question, you PAThetic fat-ass. How does it feel to have Pat think you're 'retarded'? He says the spheres came from torches (that don't make spheres), making you a 'retarded' person. Why are you so afraid to address this issue?
I would change my ways if I were you: Pat took a science course once. He knows about stuff, even if it sounds like he has no idea. Watch yourself, tough guy.
shorter Pat Cowardly:
spheres! spheres! spheres! I win!
"Cosmos" (aka "Path Cowardly") prevaricates, "...You didn't answer my question, you PAThetic fat-ass."
On the contrary, ass muncher, I answered your question days ago.
Let's play horse, "Cosmos," I'll be the front end and you be yourself.
"I win!" -Ian G.
It's not so much that 'I win', Ian, although your observation is flattering. It's that GutterBile, Fat Pat, and the entire pseudoskeptic circus has lost: they can't agree on where this evidence comes from, and both of them can't bring themselves to admit that the RJ Lee report contradicts their 'explanations' completely. If only they cared as much about the truth as you believe they do. Quick, GutterBile: post the link again!
So you win, Pat Cowardly. Now what?
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"Cosmos" (aka "Path Cowardly") prevaricates, "...It's not so much that 'I win', Ian, although your observation is flattering. It's that GutterBile, Fat Pat, and the entire pseudoskeptic circus has lost...[blah][blah][blah]."
According to whom? A compulsive liar with the moral integrity of an Oakland International Blvd. street walker?
And I still don't see a citation from the RJ Lee Report.
So, given the harsh reality of your continued failure to substantiate your assertions (heavy emphasis on ass when dealing with an anal sphincter like "Cosmos"), who lost, shit-for-brains?
"So you win, Pat Cowardly." -Ian
Thanks, Ian, I know. You're not the first person to tell me that on this blog, but for some reason, GutterBile and Fat Pat can't bring themselves to admit that they're clueless and mistaken about the evidence in this case, kind of like Mark Roberts. Makes you wonder how many other lies Pat and GutterBile spread around to the gullible idiots who believe they actually 'debunk' things.
Where's that citation from the RJ Lee Report, shit-for-brains?
...the entire pseudoskeptic circus has lost: they can't agree on where this evidence comes from, and both of them can't bring themselves to admit that the RJ Lee report contradicts their 'explanations' completely.
Sorry, what passage of the RJ Lee report was that again? I can't find it in my copy. Can you please help?
Uh, Pat Cowardly, do you mind addressing my other point? What do you do now? I mean, you've got an avalanche of evidence, so you're going to present it to a prosecutor, right? I mean, this is going to make you an international hero! What are you waiting for?
OT
Question for Cosmos...did you used to post on the Myspace forum Knowledge and Wisdom a few years back?
Meanwhile... http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/11/25/university-of-lethbridge-pays-student-7714-to-puruse-911-conspiracy-theories/
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