Oh Canaduh!
The Troofers next fiasco-waiting-to-happen will take place in the Great White North. Here are the details:
The International Center for 9/11 Studies has decided to sponsor four days of Citizen Hearings in the city of Toronto, Canada on the 10th anniversary of the events of September 11, 2001.
These Hearings will not be a mock trial or symbolic tribunal. They will involve the serious, careful and informed consideration of the best evidence that has been discovered in the ten years since the 9/11 events occurred.
No, it's not going to be a mock trial, although they've already got some nitwitnesses, including Box Boy Gage, Earthquake Machine Jones, Waterboy Ryan and Pearl Harbor Griffin.
And no, it's not going to be a tribunal, even though there are three "moderators" with terrific credentials. One of them is an English professor, another is an Anthropology prof, and the third is a professor of Public Administration. A serious, careful and informed trio of lunatics.
There's also going to be a group of 3-5 panelists, although their function and identities are unknown as yet.
It is obvious that this distinguished group will arrive at the TRUTH and disseminate it to the world. Or get a nice little trip to Toronto.
posted by Pat @ 2:38 PM
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I don't know anything about the moderators, but it's hilarious how the "witnesses" are the same losers who have attended every one of these circle-jerks for the last decade. Maybe it's time for the truthers to get some new blood?
I'll defend the US.
All I have to do is call each of those experts to counter eachother's theories, which they already have.
Me: "Mr. Gage, how could there be controlled demolition? Mz. Jones just tesified that the towers turned to dust.Which is it, Mr. Gage?"
Then I would do the one magic trick I know then blackmail them for cash with the threat of making the sun vanish.
What no Willie Rodriguez? How dare they?
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The lead sponsor of these Hearings is the International Center for 9/11 Studies. Established by U.S. attorney James Gourley, the Center is currently known best for its success in gaining the release of approximately four terabytes of video evidence held (and kept from the public) by the National Institute of Standards and Technology.
LOL :D What a succes that was.... I really dont get that anyway. They keep yelling that NIST is part of the conspiracy, but as soon as they get a FOIA for the release of the videos they hand over the evidence that proves they are in on it? They also keep yelling that Evidence was destroyed in the collapse of WTC7, so why didnt the conspirators get rid of all those videos in a fire or building collapse? Truthers say they did it before, so why not with the videos? And everyone could have gotten those videos. Are they really that full of themselves?
And why in Canada? Aint they welcome anymore in the States?
I really dont get the truthers way of thinking tbh...
What no Willie Rodriguez? How dare they?
Why would Willie Rodriguez want to waste his time with a bunch of frauds and liars?
What, no widows? How dare they?
Pat, the widows' participation in 9/11 events is entirely a question of their own wishes. If they had wished to attend the Sydney conference, for instance, they could have raised airfare in a few hours.
snug.bug said...
What no Willie Rodriguez? How dare they?
What no Brian Good? how come they did not invite the know-it-all of the Truth Movement?
Can you raise the money with the San Francisco group and go as a witness?
The challenge is on Brian Good, we are waiting.
Pat said...
What, no widows? How dare they?
Genius Pat, just Genius!
BGS, I have never sought the status as a truth movement "heavy".
I have worked in a supporting role and, recognizing the unique opportunities of my independent status, focused on combating certain obvious liabilities to the truth movement: Kevin Barrett, William Rodriguez, and the Citizen Investigation Team. None of them are likely to get a significant platform on 9/11/11, and all of them lie about me.
Taking out the trash is a dirty, thankless job, but somebody's got to do it or it starts to stink up the place.
Willie's whore brian Good says:None of them are likely to get a significant platform on 9/11/11, and all of them lie about me.
I bet you WR will get more mainstream coverage, Nationally and internationally than all of your truthers combined.
wanna bet?
You claimed that the South African media were all over Willie's story, but I can't find any evidence that's true.
Getting media coverage for a lie is counterproductive. That's why I decided to bring Willie down.
I can't find any evidence that's true.
And that's the way Brian should've said a long time ago.
wanna bet?
"BGS, I have never sought the status as a truth movement "heavy"."
You're a lightweight, boron.
And insane lightweight moron.
Have a close at "Sabba's" avatar. Now that is funny.
The avatar consists of a photograph of the goat fucker holding up a protest sign that reads, "...I hate the Hero Willie Rodriguez. Google: 'Brian Good Sex Stalker' To find out why!"
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
I have worked in a supporting role and, recognizing the unique opportunities of my independent status, focused on combating certain obvious liabilities to the truth movement: Kevin Barrett, William Rodriguez, and the Citizen Investigation Team. None of them are likely to get a significant platform on 9/11/11, and all of them lie about me.
Shorter version: I was expelled from the movement for stalking people.
Brian, can you name a single truther who vouches for your continued membership of the group? Every truther who mentions your name talks about how you've been kicked out.
Ian, you make stuff up.
Ian, you make stuff up.
So, as I suspected, you can't name a single truther who vouches for you. You've been expelled, Brian. The truth movement wants nothing to do with you. Think of how pathetic that is.
Ian, I could name many who vouch for me. I'm not going to expose them to your attentions.
The truthers you know are all liars.
Brian, can you name a single truther who vouches for your continued membership of the group?
I understand what you're getting at here, but let's not pretend 9-11 Truth is a "group." They've been a hodgepodge of mixed agendas and lots of infighting since the days they were relevant.
Still, they all agree that Brian Good is an idiot.
Triterope wrote, "...Still, they all agree that Brian Good is an idiot."
Idiots agree that the goat fucker is an idiot.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
Carol Agrees Brian Good is an Idiot.
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I offered to have a debate with Willie on Carol Brouillet's radio show. He doesn't have the guts.
I refused the challenge to debate in person because I feared that in real time Willie would drag Carol into the conflict in a way that might be hurtful to her.
the challenge is on Brian.
Sabba, the point of having the debate on Carol's radio program is that she would have edit power in case Willie made damaging statements about her.
In a live real-time performance she would not have such power, and that is not acceptable to me.
The goat fucker prevaricates, "...In a live real-time performance she would not have such power, and that is not acceptable to me."
I see. Your steadfast refusal to debate is based on your "concern" for the woman you sexually harassed.
Excuse me while I projectile vomit.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
Your steadfast refusal to debate is based on your "concern" for the woman you sexually harassed.
He's like a 14-year-old, isn't he? "I could show everybody Willie's a phony if I could just get him to debate me in front of Carol!" When everybody knows Carol thinks he's a creep.
UtterFail, I didn't sexually harrass anybody, and your continued lying on the subject is getting tiresome. I know your game is to try to provoke me into replying with some bit of juicy gossip, and you're not going to get it.
TR, I don't need to get Willie into a debate to show he's a phony. I can show he's a phony right here. He lied in federal court documents when he claimed that he single-handedly rescued fifteen persons, and he lied when he claimed that he lost his livelihood. He lied when he went around the world claiming that his Key of Hope "saved hundreds of lives". 15,000 civilians were evacuated below the impact zones. Civilian survival rates on Willie's 39 floors were no higher than they were on the other accessible floors he could not reach. If Willie was saving lives, then thousands should have died on the floors where he wasn't there to open doors. It's as simple as that. He's a liar and a con man.
So no, I don't need to debate to show he's a fraud. The only reason I brought up the dabate is because sabba claimed I was afraid to debate.
TR, I don't need to
Shut the fuck up, Brian.
Willie's BitchBrian Good from Palo Alto California, AKA Snug.bug says:
So no, I don't need to debate to show he's a fraud. The only reason I brought up the dabate is because sabba claimed I was afraid to debate.
not so Lying bitch, you have said in many posts here that you will debate him "Anyplace, anywhere" and when pressed and shown that you actually ran away from him years ago when (your own words) he threateaned to come up with a camera crew to debate you, then, you change the tune.
Brian, as recently as couple of days ago , you said: I made an offer to have a debate on Carol Brouillet's radio show with Willie. He doesn't have the guts.
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2011/05/steven-jones-latest-research.html#c3106733349810403438
Now, we call your bluff, and you are trying now to squirm out of it.
We also challenged you that if you can produce a simple supporting email or comment from Carol brouilliett that you DID NOT STALK HER, that you DID NOT HARRASS HER and that YOU were not kicked out for your behavior from the San Francisco Truth Group, we will stop the insults and accept we were wrong about you and even apologize to Carol. We are waiting to be shown wrong stalker boy.
to IAN. Please send a private email to Pat Curley so we can connect, I have something you are going to love to see and hear! Pat, you have my permission.
Willie's BitchBrian Good from Palo Alto California, AKA Snug.bug says:
So no, I don't need to debate to show he's a fraud. The only reason I brought up the dabate is because sabba claimed I was afraid to debate.
not so Lying bitch, you have said in many posts here that you will debate him "Anyplace, anywhere" and when pressed and shown that you actually ran away from him years ago when (your own words) he threateaned to come up with a camera crew to debate you, then, you change the tune.
Brian, as recently as couple of days ago , you said: I made an offer to have a debate on Carol Brouillet's radio show with Willie. He doesn't have the guts.
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2011/05/steven-jones-latest-research.html#c3106733349810403438
Now, we call your bluff, and you are trying now to squirm out of it.
We also challenged you that if you can produce a simple supporting email or comment from Carol brouilliett that you DID NOT STALK HER, that you DID NOT HARRASS HER and that YOU were not kicked out for your behavior from the San Francisco Truth Group, we will stop the insults and accept we were wrong about you and even apologize to Carol. We are waiting to be shown wrong stalker boy.
The Challenge is on Brian Good.
Triterope said...
Your steadfast refusal to debate is based on your "concern" for the woman you sexually harassed.
He's like a 14-year-old, isn't he? "I could show everybody Willie's a phony if I could just get him to debate me in front of Carol!" When everybody knows Carol thinks he's a creep.
thanks Triterope, you said it better than me.
Willie's BitchBrian Good from Palo Alto California, AKA Snug.bug says:
So no, I don't need to debate to show he's a fraud. The only reason I brought up the dabate is because sabba claimed I was afraid to debate.
not so Lying bitch, you have said in many posts here that you will debate him "Anyplace, anywhere" and when pressed and shown that you actually ran away from him years ago when (your own words) he threateaned to come up with a camera crew to debate you, then, you change the tune.
Brian, as recently as couple of days ago , you said: I made an offer to have a debate on Carol Brouillet's radio show with Willie. He doesn't have the guts.
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2011/05/steven-jones-latest-research.html#c3106733349810403438
Now, we call your bluff, and you are trying now to squirm out of it.
We also challenged you that if you can produce a simple supporting email or comment from Carol brouilliett that you DID NOT STALK HER, that you DID NOT HARRASS HER and that YOU were not kicked out for your behavior from the San Francisco Truth Group, we will stop the insults and accept we were wrong about you and even apologize to Carol. We are waiting to be shown wrong stalker boy.
Willie's BitchBrian Good from Palo Alto California, AKA Snug.bug says:
So no, I don't need to debate to show he's a fraud. The only reason I brought up the dabate is because sabba claimed I was afraid to debate.
not so Lying bitch, you have said in many posts here that you will debate him "Anyplace, anywhere" and when pressed and shown that you actually ran away from him years ago when (your own words) he threateaned to come up with a camera crew to debate you, then, you change the tune.
Brian, as recently as couple of days ago , you said: I made an offer to have a debate on Carol Brouillet's radio show with Willie. He doesn't have the guts.
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2011/05/steven-jones-latest-research.html#c3106733349810403438
Now, we call your bluff, and you are trying now to squirm out of it.
We also challenged you that if you can produce a simple supporting email or comment from Carol brouilliett that you DID NOT STALK HER, that you DID NOT HARRASS HER and that YOU were not kicked out for your behavior from the San Francisco Truth Group, we will stop the insults and accept we were wrong about you and even apologize to Carol. We are waiting to be shown wrong stalker boy.
sabba, what challenge are you talking about? How do you come to make challenges for Willie?
I offered years ago to have a debate with him on Carol Brouillet's radio show. He doesn't have the guts.
He doesn't have the guts.
You don't havethe guts to debate anyone in person. You'd shit your pants if you had to debate Mark Roberts in person.
The goat fucker continues to bald-faced lies, "...I offered years ago to have a debate with him on Carol Brouillet's radio show. He doesn't have the guts."
Liar. Carol Brouillet stated very clearly and unequivocally that she wants nothing to do with you. In fact, she threatened to have you arrested if you ever approach her again. E.g.,
"...I don't think your attacks on me, Kevin Barrett, and William Rodriguez have anything to do with Kevin Barrett or William Rodriguez or anything rational. The attacks have to do with Brian Good and Carol Brouillet and are completely emotional. You have a crush on me and erroneously hold delusions about me. You are being irrationally jealous of Kevin and William. You cannot accept the fact that I am happily married and refuse to allow you to TRY to cause trouble between my husband and I. Because of your delusions, I cannot ever feel "safe" in your presence alone, and would rather not see you again, but you are so desperate for attention that you are doing extremely negative, destructive things- attacking me and respected members of the 9/11 Truth Movement to force me to pay attention to you." -- Carol Brouillet
You ought to be ashamed of yourself. It's a wonder that you can show your face in public.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
You're a liar, GutterBall. Carol never threatened to have me arrested.
As you do, she tried though an ad hominem attack to deflect attention from the truths I was revealing. In her case I was showing both Barrett and Willie for liars, and showing Barrett for a bigot as well, and she tried to paint the issue as one of my own emotionalism. She was wrong. I never tried to cause trouble with her husband.
Willie's BitchBrian Good from Palo Alto California, AKA Snug.bug says:
So no, I don't need to debate to show he's a fraud. The only reason I brought up the dabate is because sabba claimed I was afraid to debate.
not so Lying bitch, you have said in many posts here that you will debate him "Anyplace, anywhere" and when pressed and shown that you actually ran away from him years ago when (your own words) he threateaned to come up with a camera crew to debate you, then, you change the tune.
Brian, as recently as couple of days ago , you said: I made an offer to have a debate on Carol Brouillet's radio show with Willie. He doesn't have the guts.
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2011/05/steven-jones-latest-research.html#c3106733349810403438
Now, we call your bluff, and you are trying now to squirm out of it.
We also challenged you that if you can produce a simple supporting email or comment from Carol brouilliett that you DID NOT STALK HER, that you DID NOT HARRASS HER and that YOU were not kicked out for your behavior from the San Francisco Truth Group, we will stop the insults and accept we were wrong about you and even apologize to Carol. We are waiting to be shown wrong stalker boy
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willie's bitch, Brian Good AKA, "punsuxtawneybarney" in youtube, "Petgoat" in DU forums and snug.bug here, says: She was wrong. I never tried to cause trouble with her husband.
Lying again Brian Good. You called her husband and implied that SHE was having an affair with Barrett. You even complained on the forums at SF 9/11 Group that Carol's husband ignored you in activities and that you only wanted to be "friendly". The sign of a stalker.
Sabba wrote, "...Lying again Brian Good. You called her husband and implied that SHE was having an affair with Barrett. You even complained on the forums at SF 9/11 Group that Carol's husband ignored you in activities and that you only wanted to be "friendly". The sign of a stalker."
Now it all makes sense.
The goat fucker hates Kevin Barrett, not because he's a anti-Semite or a fraud, after all the troof movement is loaded with anti-Semites, liars and frauds, but rather because he believes Carol Brouillet was having an affair with Kevin Barrett. Willie the Rod, of course, defended Carol Brouillet from the goat fucker's scurrilous accusations, which explains why the goat fucker REALLY attacks Rodriguez. The goat fucker flew into a jealous rage and has attacked both Barrett and Willie the Rod ever since.
You're one sick puppy, goat fucker.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
The sign of a stalker.
Another sign of a stalker is their inability to leave their victims alone.
GuitarBill said...
that's the ticket, guitarbill!
Sabba wrote, "...that's the ticket, guitarbill!"
Thanks for clearing things up, Sabba.
I had a suspicion that we weren't getting the whole truth as concerns the Good/Barrett/Rodriguez troofer cat fight. Now we know the truth.
Again, thank you for shedding light on this sordid affair. Your effort's are truly appreciated.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
Thanks Guitarbill!
Also , Brian tried to imply that something "funny" happened between Rodriguez and Carol, when he came to San Francisco due to the fact that Carol wrote that in the Bed and breakfast were WRod was staying, his alarm kept ringing in the morning and he did not wakeup, Carol , later explained that WR was very tired from the whole tour and interviews. Brian implied that Carol stayed in the same place with WR and funny things happened. The usual BG stuff, just asking questions, just being sarcastic, etc.
He will tell Carol creepy sexual dreams- fantasies he had with her and that scared the hell out of her!
Since Carol was defending both, Barrett and WR, he went bananas and acted like a chimp. He never recovered. Then Rodriguez challenged him to a debate and Brian Good cowed away claiming he did not have the Charisma.
After that he went to work with Richard Gage and we know the rest. He used Gage's computers to attack Willie. Willie in exchange had people working for him to identify attacks, it all led to Richard Gage's orgnization. Then , both, Gage and Rodriguez were invited to a Radio Show and William told Gage that he will not support him or his organization when he is getting attacked by people there. On air! Richard was at lost of words and did not how to respond. Then Brian Good started attacking Former MI5 officer, Annie Machon and Gage had it!
Brian was Out of the organization to much relieve of Gage. Brian never recovered and blamed Willie.
Then the San Francisco group kicked him out for his obsessions with Carol and harassments. He blamed Willie. He never recovered. Then 3 more groups including the one in Australia, banned him and laughed at his antics. He never recovered. Then in DU forum he was told as "petgoat" to stop posting Rodriguez stuff publicly. He never recovered.
Then he was vandalizing William Rodriguez page on Wikipedia as "contrivance" (go see the history and compared his antics here!) he was banned from posting on 9/11 truther pages like Barrett's, Carol's, DRG and Rodriguez's. He never recovered and blamed Rodriguez. Then -by his own admission- declared that Norwegian hackers working for willie exposed him and his different personas. He never ever ever recovered.
I feel bad for Willie Rodriguez. It can't be fun to have an insane unemployed person stalking you all over the globe.
Brian, can't you find something better to do with your life?
Sabba, I never "actually ran away" from that fat fraud, Willie Rodriguez. I never called Carol's husband, ever. I objected to Barrett's influence over Carol because I thought she had great potential as an activist and candidate and I could see that he was a man of little integrity with very poor political sense.
I implied nothing about Carol and Willie. I never used Gage's computers to attack Willie. The rest of your claims are too silly for response.
I offered years ago to have a debate with him on Carol Brouillet's radio show. He doesn't have the guts.
Stop lying, Brian. Ypu're the one without the guts to debate Rodriguez. That's because you know he's a hero and you're a failed janitor and sex-stalking lunatic.
Sabba, when did I say I would debate Willie "anytime, anywhere"? I certainly never meant to offer to debate him in Tierra del Fuego in 1769.
I never "actually ran away from" Willie. He threatened to bring a camera crew and he never brought them. If anything, Willie "actually ran away from" me--because I told him I would confront him if he ever showed up in the Bay Area, and he hasn't shown up since.
It is up to you to prove your claims, and you can't, because they're not true. I have never called Carol's husband, ever. I never implied anything about Carol and Willie. You report a lot of things that never happened, and the ones that did happen you report in a scrambled chronology that suits your fantasies.
Ian, where I come from, it is considered unheroic to lie about your deeds and to use innocent third parties as human shields.
Willie's bitch, Brian Good says:
snug.bug says:
Sabba, when did I say I would debate Willie "anytime, anywhere"...?...
Really Brian? how about this:
Willie doesn't have the guts to debate me--not here, not in person, not anywhere on the internet, and not on Carol's program. That's because he knows better than anyone that he's a liar and a fraud.
We have seen otherwise Brian Good.
I never "actually ran away from" Willie.
You did then and you doing it now.
He threatened to bring a camera crew and he never brought them.
and by your own words, you did not accepted his challenge because you did not wanted to comp[ete with his charisma. Why will he have to travel in vain then?
If anything, Willie "actually ran away from" me--because I told him I would confront him if he ever showed up in the Bay Area, and he hasn't shown up since.
Another lie Brian Good? he has been there but of course since you did not know about it, it is not true? right?
I doubt you will have the guts to confront him and since he just offered to face you, what is then stopping you?
It is up to you to prove your claims, and you can't, because they're not true. I have never called Carol's husband, ever. I never implied anything about Carol and Willie.
calling meaning trying to talk to him, I give you that. But you did talk to him and tried to mess up her marriage little rat. I know it from the right sources bitch. It is up to you to prove that I am lying by presenting the challenge of a note or an email from Carol or her husband that we are lying. We are still waiting. It will NEVER happen!
You report a lot of things that never happened, and the ones that did happen you report in a scrambled chronology that suits your fantasies. oh now it seems I have "some" things right!, wrong, everything I said is correct about you down to your family history, personal information etc.
Ian, where I come from, it is considered unheroic to lie about your deeds and to use innocent third parties as human shields.
Brian, where you going you will be laughed by the innocent, the truthers and the human shields.
And by the way, have the balls to respond on the challenge to debate thread so everybody will see this, otherwise I will cut and paste over there for you. Bitch!
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Sabba, when did I say I would debate Willie "anytime, anywhere"?
You have repeatedly made this unsubstantiated claim.
I never "actually ran away from" Willie. The most unheroic Willie, however, threatened to cancel an upcoming appearance rather than answer my questions about his claim of a 22-story internal collapse in WTC1.
Willie's threat to bring a camera crew was independent of any talk of a debate--obviously it was merely an empty threat.
You have provided no evidence that Willie has appeared in the Bay Area. I've heard of no such thing, so if he has, he's sneaked in and out and attracted no notice.
I never tried to mess up Carol's marriage. I thought that as a candidate, the stability of her marriage was one of her greatest assets and needed to be protected.
It is not up to me to prove a negative. It is up to you to prove your claims. You can't, you won't, and you claim secret knowledge. What a creep!
There is no need for anyone to travel. We can have a nice little debate on Carol's radio program. I will show that Willie's hero story is a lie, and instead of showing that it's true he will tell big whopping lies about me.
Willie's gay stalker,Brian Good says: Sabba, when did I say I would debate Willie "anytime, anywhere"?
You did on the old Haloscans on this website, not once but many times.
I never "actually ran away from" Willie. The most unheroic Willie, however, threatened to cancel an upcoming appearance rather than answer my questions about his claim of a 22-story internal collapse in WTC1.
Sure , we believe you.
Willie's threat to bring a camera crew was independent of any talk of a debate--obviously it was merely an empty threat.
yes, one that you ran away from. Your own words bitch. YOu did not wanted to face him and his Charisma.
You have provided no evidence that Willie has appeared in the Bay Area. I've heard of no such thing, so if he has, he's sneaked in and out and attracted no notice.
You are the one who has not shown any evidence he has not. I told you bitch, go to facebook, oh I get it, you don't do facebook!.
I never tried to mess up Carol's marriage.
Biggest lie ever! You did and everybody knows it, even your group, the one you got kicked out from (remember that one?
) wanted to protect her from you.
I thought that as a candidate, the stability of her marriage was one of her greatest assets and needed to be protected. Bullshit, it was because of you , the biggest reason she decided not to run again.
It is not up to me to prove a negative. It is up to you to prove your claims. You can't, you won't, and you claim secret knowledge. What a creep! Sure Brian, I have been correct all along, I have been diligent collecting the information just to be sure. It is up to you to prove us wrong and you have not succeeded. Where is the simple support note from Carol that will squash all of this? you will never ever ever get it. Because I am telling the truth.
There is no need for anyone to travel. Scared to face him? come on , this is your opportunity to tell the Puertorican Janitor what you think of him.
We can have a nice little debate on Carol's radio program.
It will NEVERhappen and that is why you keep saying the same thing.
As a matter of fact I just found out that Willie was the one who offered a second debate, after you ran away from the first one with the cameras, to be held in San Francisco as an event and the proceeds to go to the San Francisco 9/11 Truth Group and again, you ran away claiming that you did not do live debates.
I will show that Willie's hero story is a lie, and instead of showing that it's true he will tell big whopping lies about me.
Sure, sure, we are waiting for you to put up.
Willie's bitch,Brian Good aka:punsuxtawneybarneyand Snug.bug said:
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2011/05/steven-jones-latest-research.html#c1200425862572217163
At 10 May, 2011 12:34, snug.bug said...
Sabba, if Willie ever sneaked into the Bay Area, I never heard anything about it. He knows that if he ever appears here I will confront him in person, I will picket the
venue, and I will leaflet progressive events exposing him as a liar. The fat fraud doesn't have the guts to come to the Bay Area and he doesn't have the guts to debate me
Yeah right, here is your chance bitch.
How about this?
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2011/01/jones-back-from-dead.html#c8499705990274301527
At 13 January, 2011 11:23, snug.bug said...
Where do you get the idea that I'm afraid to face Willie for a debate?....He's the one that threatened to cancel his appearance in Oakland because he was afraid to answer
a few questions.
We are coming to a consensus that indeed, you are afraid to debate Rodriguez and to answer a few questions of your own.
More here for you Brian Good:
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2011/01/truther-body-count.html#c6055801419227956943
Good luck getting Willie to debate. The guy wouldn't even answer questions at his presentations. And he threatened to cancel his 2007 appearance in the San Francisco Bay Area because he was afraid to answer questions from one of the promoters. Willie doesn't do questions.
So we are lucky I guess and he is willing to answer questions.
How about this statement, also by you...
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2011/01/truther-body-count.html#c8055571289290466469
At 16 January, 2011 23:21, snug.bug said...
You claim Willie had a public 2010 tour.
I claim that I made a private offer of a internet radio discussion.
a private offer to who? bitch!
Ian, where I come from, it is considered unheroic to lie about your deeds and to use innocent third parties as human shields.
Says the guy who lies about his educational accomplishments constantly ("I was reading James Joyce before my mother had stopped breast feeding me!") and also tries to hide behind "widows" and squeals about it whenever we point out that nobody cares about said widows.
So will you accept Rodriguez' debate challenge, Brian? Or are you the pathetic coward and liar we all suspect you to be?
so, Brian Good, are you still claiming:
1: that you were not kicked out from the San Francisco Group for harassing Carol, William and others?
2: That you were not kicked out of other forums because of the same actions?
3: That Carol is wrong about you?
William_Rodriguez said:
Thank you, and Thanks to Pat Curley for accepting. Let Pat organize all the details, I have some time sporadically available until mid July, after that is crazy for me due to the amount of work required for the anniversary, interviews setups for victims etc. I can travel to SF, or we can bring my "bitch" somewhere agreed upon on. I look forward to face Mrs. Good. Bye for now. Any requests, please send them to Mr. Curley.
Sooo, when are you going to accept Brian Good? the clock is ticking.
Sabba, your habit of spamming the same repeated lies on different threads degrades the quality of this forum.
Thanks for proving my point: you can't prove your claim that I offered to debate Willie any time and any place. Why would I offer to debate him in Tierra del Fuego in 1763?
I never "actually ran away from" Willie. The most unheroic Willie, however, threatened to cancel an upcoming appearance rather than answer my questions about his claim of a 22-story internal collapse in WTC1.
Willie's threat to bring a camera crew was independent of any talk of a debate--obviously it was merely an empty threat.
You have provided no evidence that Willie has appeared in the Bay Area. I've heard of no such thing, so if he has, he's sneaked in and out and attracted no notice.
I never tried to mess up Carol's marriage. I thought that as a candidate, the stability of her marriage was one of her greatest assets and needed to be protected.
It is not up to me to prove a negative. It is up to you to prove your claims. You can't, you won't, and you claim secret knowledge. What a creep!
There is no need for anyone to travel. We can have a nice little debate on Carol's radio program. I will show that Willie's hero story is a lie, and instead of showing that it's true he will tell big whopping lies about me.
I have never lied about my education. I had Newton's 3rd Law in Church School before I could tie my shoes. Sorry, it's not my fault that my Church School teachers were the wives of college professors.
your answers was given before bitch http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2011/05/oh-canaduh.html#c582259628665391628
and for the record, I am recovering the missing posts from blogger. You have 2 Threads of a challenge, this one here, and this one: http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2011/05/screw-loose-change-to-host-debate.html#links
I have never lied about my education.
False.
I had Newton's 3rd Law in Church School before I could tie my shoes.
So you can't tie your shoes, Brian? That goes a long way towards describing your feeble intellect that has cost you a job mopping floors and has you all confused about 9/11.
Sorry, it's not my fault that my Church School teachers were the wives of college professors.
Nobody cares.
So Brian, are you going to accept Rodriguez' debate challenge, or are you going to try to bury my question in dumbspam?
Ian, I'm not aware that I've had a debate challenge from William Rodriguez.
There seems to be an anonymous internet poster named sabba who lies and lies and lies and thinks he speaks for Willie and for Carol Brouillet.
Years ago I offered to have a debate with Willie on Carol Brouillet's radio program. That offer still stands.
Thanks Again Mr. Curley.
I am William Rodriguez , I will state here, under perjury of law that this is my personal id (William_Rodriguez) here a screwloosechangeblogspot.
For the Record, so there is no doubt.
I hereby Challenge Brian Good from Palo Alto California to a live debate. A debate to be hosted by Screwloosechange and recorded for future research. I forfeit any rights to edit, manipulate or any claims to my image to any of the recordings made of the debate. Also for the record and as far as I personally know, Carol Brouillet will NOT have Brian Good on his show, ever, so this is an excuse by the alleged stalker. I hope this clears the way to the debate with this alleged stalker. I will, at my own expense and to make it easier to Brian Good, fly and meet with Mr. Curley and face Mr. Good on his own territory. I will like this to be done before mid July due to my compromises and responsibilities for the upcoming anniversary. Again, contact Mr. Curley for all the arrangements.
my email is wtcbill@gmail.com and I welcome mails from IAN, Guitarbill,Triterope, Brian Good Stalker, Sabba, roo and Mr. Curley to corroborate my identity. Not from Brian Good who is banned and advised not to harass me via email (he has been blocked for years).
"William Rodriguez", if you want to challenge me to anything, you need to communicate with me directly. William Rodriguez, who travels around the world lying about 9/11, has not communicated with me in years.
My offer to debate William on Carol Brouillet's radio show stands. My warning that if he ever dares to show his face in the Bay Area that I will picket and leaflet the venue, and leaflet progressive events to publicize his fraudulent activities stands.
Willie's bitch, Brian Good aka snug.bug original post says:If William Rodriguez wishes to challenge me to anything, he needs to communicate with me directly. William Rodriguez, who travels around the world lying about 9/11, has not communicated with me in years.
He just did fricking idiot! He challenged you publicly and do not need to do it privately to feed your sexual fantasies with him.
...Rodriguez, who travels around the world lying about 9/11, has not communicated with me in years.
didn't you claimed he didn't travel around the world since 2009? oh I forgot, I proved you wrong on that one too.
...has not communicated with me in years why he should communicate directly with a stalker who has defame him all over?, stop the BS and accept the fricking challenge once and for all.
Sabba, William Rodriguez has not challenged me to anything.
An anonymous internet poster who calls himself "William Rodriguez" may or may not have. I really didn't pay much attention. William Rodriguez, who travels around the world lying about 9/11, has not communicated with me in years.
really? I just e-mailed him at the same e-mail you use to send him garbage and he answered back and confirmed his identity.
As a matter of fact he requested IANto send him a private note.
I believe Pat Curley can answer that question for you Brian Good.
sabba, since you have lied repeatedly, none of your bald assertions deserve any attention whatsoever.
Willie's Coward bitch, Brian Goodsnug.bug said...
sabba, since you have lied repeatedly, none of your bald assertions deserve any attention whatsoever.
sure Brian, sure. We are dissecting you little by little, and we are finding the piece of trash and blabber that you are, we are hitting you with your favorite subject. you will not stop responding me ,because you know I exposed you for the little rat that you are. So stop pretending that you will ignore me.
I never said I'd ignore you. I said that since you seemed to be claiming to speak for Willie and for Carol both, there was no reason to respond to you.
You're only exposing yourself for an incompetent liar.
Willie's whore Brian Good says:
I never said I'd ignore you. I said that since you seemed to be claiming to speak for Willie and for Carol both, there was no reason to respond to you.
Seemed is not the same as officially speaking for them like you had done in the past.
You're only exposing yourself for an incompetent liar.
I think everybody will agree that the only liar here is you.
The goat fucker whines, "...Sabba, your habit of spamming the same repeated lies on different threads degrades the quality of this forum."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
The unmitigated gall. This is beyond comedy. I think I'm going to piss my pants I'm laughing so hard.
By all means, goat fucker, tell us more about how "your habit of spamming the same repeated lies on different threads degrades the quality of this forum."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
yeah!! tell us please! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hey Brian, I heard a rumor you may be tabling at Conspiracy Con, Richard Gage will be so pleased to see you there...Send my regards.
Years ago I offered to have a debate with Willie on Carol Brouillet's radio program. That offer still stands.
Years ago, I offered the Boston Red Sox my services in left field for $10 million a year. That offer still stands.
Brian, you do realize that Carol Brouillet will never have you on her show since you're a lunatic sex stalker that tried to destroy her marriage, right?
So debate Rodriguez here at Screw Loose Change. What difference does it make?
BTW, of all the hilarious lies Brian has told again and again ("I'm not petgoat", "I didn't stalk Carol Brouillet"), this one has to be the best. There's the offer on the front page of this blog from Rodriguez to debate Brian and Brian continues to insist that Rodriguez won't debate him.
Brian, seriously, check yourself into a mental hospital. You really need to start living in the same universe as the rest of us.
Ian, if Willie wants to debate me, he needs to contact me directly and not hide behind a pack of liars as messenger boys.
Youse guys live in a universe of lies. Stupid and boring lies.
Willie's gay bitch, Brian Good, aka- snug.bug said...
Ian, if Willie wants to debate me, he needs to contact me directly and not hide behind a pack of liars as messenger boys.
Youse guys live in a universe of lies. Stupid and boring lies.
He just did and publicly bitch!
re-read and then re-read and then re-read. If any doubt contact Pat Curley, Pat will not put the blog or his name on a clearly liable situation of impersonating Rodriguez. So do not be a coward. Stop now trying to manipulate the challenge and face the music.
Sabba, you are not in a position to make demands on behalf of William Rodriguez.
Willie's gay bitch, Brian Good, aka- snug.bug said...
Sabba, you are not in a position to make demands on behalf of William Rodriguez.
First you accuse me of being Rodriguez...
He will hide behind lying sock puppets like sabba and CBSF and enlist the aid of liars like you and GutterBall.
Then he will complain of me making demands. May I remind you that I can take FULL credit for doing the job you failed to do? things like contacting people to corroborate your lies? May I remind you that it was me who contacted the FBI because I believe you to be a potential terrorist? May I also remind you that it was me who contacted Rodriguez on Facebook to make him aware about your BS ? I think that after all these actions you should not go to Conspiracy Con and spend time here instead preparing for your debate. I want to be in front seat to watch this show of course!
Thanks BGS for reposting this.
Thanks BGS for reposting this.
your welcome Sabba.
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2011/05/screw-loose-change-to-host-debate.html#c3208490674352027247
Ian, if Willie wants to debate me, he needs to contact me directly and not hide behind a pack of liars as messenger boys.
So you're scared to debate him because you know that you don't stand a chance one-on-one with him.
Youse guys live in a universe of lies. Stupid and boring lies.
So instead of debating him, you'll just post endless squealspam.
Sabba, you are not in a position to make demands on behalf of William Rodriguez.
See what I mean?
hey Brian, will I see you on Wednesday the 25th at the next Green Party meeting?
I bet you will never recognize me!
Sabba, the fact that you don't know the difference between William Rodriguez and an anonymous internet poster using the handle "William Rodriguez" shows that you're not very bright.
So now you seem to think you speak not just for Willie and for Carol, but now you're speaking for Pat too.
Ian, your stupid-premise-leads-to-stupid-conclusion Q.E.D.'s never fail to amuse.
BGS, I don't need to prepare for debate. Willie's silly lies demolish themselves essentially in freefall.
Willie's Gay Bitch, Brian Good says: Sabba, the fact that you don't know the difference between William Rodriguez and an anonymous internet poster using the handle "William Rodriguez" shows that you're not very bright.
It shows actually how an idiot you are. I have been e-mailing the guy and his headers check out. Also I first contacted him via Facebook. It shows how scared you are. Call my bluff, like I called yours and prove it is not Rodriguez who challenged you. Go ahead, illuminate us. We are waiting.
Willie's Lying Stalker, Brian Good from Palo Alto California says:
So now you seem to think you speak not just for Willie and for Carol, but now you're speaking for Pat too.
Do you see any of them complaining?
Sabba, your belief that we should accept the claims of an anonymous internet poster (you) only show how unintelligent you are.
Were I to accept a debate challenge at ScrewLooseChange from some clown who claims to be Willie Rodriguez. he could then tell vicious lies about me and about other 9/11 activists, and then Willie could deny the whole thing.
I need to have direct communication from Willie before I will agree to anything.
In the meantime, here I am, and Willie has for almost four years been afraid to answer my questions.
"...Sabba, your belief that we should accept the claims of an anonymous internet poster (you) only show how unintelligent you are."
We? Who's this "we" you're talking about, goat fucker? You must have more alternative personalities than Sybil.
"...Were I to accept a debate challenge at ScrewLooseChange from some clown who claims to be Willie Rodriguez. he could then tell vicious lies about me and about other 9/11 activists, and then Willie could deny the whole thing"
God forbid there might be a chance that anyone could "tell vicious lies" about a vicious liar. Can't have that, now can "we"?
"...I need to have direct communication from Willie before I will agree to anything."
Let me spell it for you real s--l--o--w, goat fucker:
C---O---P O---U---T!
"...In the meantime, here I am, and Willie has for almost four years been afraid to answer my questions."
A likely story.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
Ian, your stupid-premise-leads-to-stupid-conclusion Q.E.D.'s never fail to amuse.
My, such squealing!
Too bad you're a liar and coward who is afraid of Willie Rodriguez. I was looking forward to you debating him.
UtterFail, obviously "we" is everyone in this forum who reads sabba's claims.
For almost four years, Willie has been running away from my questions.
Your link-spamming of Barrett's nonsense is highly hypocritical, unless you share Barrett's "9/11 Was an Inside Jew Job" conclusions.
Barrett lies about me because I have exposed him as an idiot, a liar, and a bigot.
Hey Bitch Brian Good, ignoring you is not the same as"running away from you". If the guy, like Carol thinks you are a stalker and have been saying so for the last 4 or 5 years, you do not have a leg to stand on claiming they are running away from you. He is here facing you and your questions, are you ready to face him and his questions?
Sabba, your claim that Willie is here facing my questions is a lie. He is not here and he is not facing my questions.
Please explain how over a four-year period I can be simultaneously running away from Willie and stalking him.
you seem to misunderstand mr. Idiot. You are running away from him now. Will you face him on a debate yes or no? are you only trying to debate him online since you are afraid to face him and to let his Charismatic hero persona (your words) take over?
Brian Good the Idiot says: Sabba, your claim that Willie is here facing my questions is a lie. He is not here and he is not facing my questions.
Nice try to avoid the fact that you WILL NOT face him and you are afraid of the questions he has a right to pose for you.
I want to ask him about all those things you have denied here for such a long time.
(and that we know you have lied about!).
Have you called C-Span yet?
Sabba, I am not now and I have not ever run away from Willie Rodriguez the 9/11 con artist who single-handedly destroyed the truth movement's good relationship with C-Span.
I offered years ago to have a debate with Willie on Carol Brouillet's radio program. The reason for choosing that venue is because in any other Willie is likely to try to introduce rhetorical distractions by lying about Carol. She needs to have edit power over the debate.
Willie was once charismatic, which makes it very difficult to believe that he spent the Clinton prosperity years hiding in a stairwell when he could have been selling Maseratis. If I ever said he was still charismatic, I must have been joking.
Only those wishing to see a truther cat-fight would claim that
Willie has a moral right to respond to serious questions about his lies and his fraudulent activities with gossipy lies instead of answers. That is one reason that a SLC forum is inappropriate for a debate. The truther cat-fight that Pat wants will not serve the cause of truth or the interests of the truth-seeking community.
I haven't lied about anything. Why are you posting in the last thread in the forum? Hoping to get a last lie in before the thread gets archived?
Willie's Lying Stalker, Brian Good AKA- snug.bug said...
Sabba, I am not now and I have not ever run away from Willie Rodriguez the 9/11 con artist who single-handedly destroyed the truth movement's good relationship with C-Span.
Your own words is that you did, that you did not wanted to face him when he offered to bring a film crew and several survivors with him. Check your past in other forums to double check what you have said bitch. Also , do not even go to the C-Span bit, we have challenged you to provide any evidence to your BS and all you can muster is "there has not been any coverage of the 9/11 truth movement, since Willie had a 2 hour fest on the station". I told you, call C-Span, I did, I have friends there, but again, I am an internet anonymous poster that should not be believed, right? So how come you do not call? do you want the number again Brian the Lying bitch?
I offered years ago to have a debate with Willie on Carol Brouillet's radio program. The reason for choosing that venue is because in any other Willie is likely to try to introduce rhetorical distractions by lying about Carol. She needs to have edit power over the debate. Second lie. Rodriguez was the one with the idea to have you on Carol's Show years ago after you refused a second attempt of him to go there and make it an event that will have raised funds for the SF9/11 Group.
Carol will Never. EVER! have you on her show and you know it as well as all of us.
Willie was once charismatic...
there you go bitch, finally you accept ed it, since anyways those were your words in the past. You prove me right, once again!
...which makes it very difficult to believe that he spent the Clinton prosperity years hiding in a stairwell when he could have been selling Maseratis. If I ever said he was still charismatic, I must have been joking. oh the jealously of a failed janitor!
Only those wishing to see a truther cat-fight would claim that
Willie has a moral right to respond to serious questions about his lies and his fraudulent activities with gossipy lies instead of answers.
WAIT!!!!!!!!!! listen who is talking!!!
Did you or did you not came here to the forum with gossipy BS about WR? Did you or didn't you asked and implied about gossipy shit about WR marriage (who cares but you!). How about gossip about the Loose Change guys and Rodriguez? Come on Bitch, you have been the biggest YENTA in the forum! How dare you now question that others may or may not asked you about all those allegations?
That is one reason that a SLC forum is inappropriate for a debate. The truther cat-fight that Pat wants will not serve the cause of truth or the interests of the truth-seeking community.
My work here to expose you for what you really is then is evident for everybody to see. All they have to do is go back to the 2 main threads and see you for what you really are. A P U S S Y!
I haven't lied about anything. Why are you posting in the last thread in the forum? Hoping to get a last lie in before the thread gets archived?
nope, maybe avoiding that you get away with excuses and that you put the last lie without being questioned.
I never said I didn't want to face Willie. I said I didn't want to have a staged debate because real-time media give the advantage to glib liars, and there was nothing to debate as long as Willie was afraid to answer my questions.
If C-Span has done 9/11 truth movement coverage since Willie's shameful brag-fest in 2007, please advise as to when. I'm not aware of any.
Here you are again, speaking for Carol Brouillet. Who elected you spokesturd?
I haven't had any gossipy bs about Willie. If his claims that he is a father are lies, that's hardly my fault. If they're true, so what?
I haven't lied about anything, but you surely have. And Willie has made a career out of blatant, stupid lies that make the truth movement look bad.
William's Lying yenta and bitch, Brian Good from Palo ALto California says:Firefighters have Halligan bars to break open doors, and Willie finally acknowledged this in his interview with Rosie when in saying "Like they needed the key, you know?" he was indicating that they didn't need the key.
How dishonest and a liar you are, Brian Good. Rodriguez have said that indeed, the firefighters did not need the key to BREAK DOORS, but it is the TIME NEEDED and LOST to Break THOSE DOORS that made the Key so important, and as he said, it was the effort to try to save as MANY PEOPLE in the LESS AMOUNT of TIME. Your stupidity is not shared by the White HOuse that in a matter to invite him there , will check and re-check the facts , specially during those times when the alert was very high and the Anthrax scare was also active. I guess you are better than the White House National Security Detail department and the Secret Service in a matter of checking background facts. Hail the expert! now Brian is not only an "engineering expert" but a Secret Service requirements expert.
Have you called Shyam Sunder yet?
Have you called Carol yet?
Have you called Visibility911 yet?
Have you called Glen Zarmanoff yet?
Have you called the Port Authority yet?
Have you called your parents yet?
Have you called C-Span yet?
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