Monday, November 07, 2011

We Are the 84 Percent!

The Troofers once again prove how after 10 years they have captured the heart and soul of America. Now they are starting a petition on the official White House site, where if they gather 15,000 signatures in a month, they get an official response from the government. The petition is actually pretty generic, nothing particularly controversial by Troofer standards:


Appoint and fund an independent prosecutor and impanel a public grand jury to investigate the crimes of 9/11.
Bring the questions concerning what happened on 9/11 into the judicial process where an independent prosecutor, the power to subpoena, and the risk of prosecution for lies can be used to publicly seek answers to why the first 3 steel superstructure buildings in history fell symmetrically at near free fall speed into their own footprints in New York on 9/11/2001 killing 3,000 people. In addition, notify all current/former federal employees and contractors that failure to respond truthfully and completely to questioning will--in addition to any criminal penalties--result in loss of employment, cancellation of pension benefits, and/or voiding of any employment contract. Further, prosecution for lying or refusing to testify for any reason will not be defended by the government.

Well how are they doing, a quarter of the way into the month. Let's... uhh... just say that they are a little behind schedule.








By comparison the following petition has over 7,700 signatures in only 3 days.


We demand a vapid, condescending, meaningless, politically safe response to this petition.

Since these petitions are ignored apart from an occasional patronizing and inane political statement amounting to nothing more than a condescending pat on the head, we the signers would enjoy having the illusion of success. Since no other outcome to this process seems possible, we demand that the White House immediately assign a junior staffer to compose a tame and vapid response to this petition, and never attempt to take any meaningful action on this or any other issue. We would also like a cookie.


But hey, everyone likes cookies.

31 Comments:

At 07 November, 2011 22:25, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

49 signatures.

1. Ilene Tutheryte.
2. Rhonda Rosy
3. Bend Dover
4. Hue G. Woody
5. Cyndy Metryk Kollapz
6. Saddam Hussein
7. Mike Hunt
8. Noah Kiddin
9. Angie O' Plasty
10. Heywood Jablomi
11. Mat Trez
12.Dick Trickle
13. Bertha Christ
14. Emma Royds
15. Hugh Jass
16. Anita Bathe
17. Kareem Pye
18. Jaques Strahp
19. Woody Duer
20. Betty Wount
21. Stu Pidasso
22. Ivanna Tinkle
23. Amanda Blomi
24. Al Khoholik
25. Palmer Johnson
26. Oliver Klosov
27. Saxon Druugz
28. Helen Highwater
29. Richard Cranium
30. Dick Cabeza
31. G Honoria.
32. Red Ruphensore
33. Tormi Kokov
34. Peter Gazinya
35. Phil McKraken
36. Lou Zher
37. Anita Dickk
38. Ben Dur
39. Mary C. Doats
40. Dossy Doats
41. Lillian C Divey
42. Holden McGroin
43. Don Alduk
44. Mike Oxbig
45. Brian Dunson Mandick
46. Carmine Dioksyde
47. Kurt Reply
48. Hugo Guhrl
49. Dr. D Ephidents

 
At 07 November, 2011 22:30, Blogger James B. said...

Hey, Dick Trickle was my favorite NASCAR driver.

 
At 08 November, 2011 06:04, Blogger Ian said...

Berevtov Szanity didn't sign? But he's one of the most notable people to join Richard Gage's group.

 
At 08 November, 2011 09:25, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...Bring the questions concerning what happened on 9/11 into the judicial process where an independent prosecutor, the power to subpoena, and the risk of prosecution for lies can be used to publicly seek answers to why the first 3 steel superstructure buildings in history fell symmetrically at near free fall speed into their own footprints in New York on 9/11/2001 killing 3,000 people...[blah][blah][blah]."

So let me see if I understand the troofer's demand.

They want to mount an investigation complete with "power to subpoena," and an "independent prosecutor" based on nothing more than "questions concerning what happened on 9/11"?

Shouldn't the investigation be based on evidence grounded in facts as opposed to mere "questions"? Since when are "questions" considered evidence?

And since when does a Kangaroo court constitute a "judicial process"?

 
At 08 November, 2011 11:47, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

LOL @ 49 signatures! Another example of epic failure.

 
At 08 November, 2011 11:56, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

Further, prosecution for lying or refusing to testify for any reason will not be defended by the government.

Ummm in order to prosecute the Government the Government has a right to defend itself according to the U.S. Consitution.

That last statement makes no sense at all. Hilarious!

 
At 08 November, 2011 14:07, Blogger Ian said...

I also love the mangled syntax of the petition:

the first 3 steel superstructure buildings in history

I never knew WTC 1, 2 and 7 were the original 3 steel superstructure buildings to be constructed in history. And here I had always thought that the Empire State Building, among others, was an older structure than the WTC.

 
At 08 November, 2011 14:28, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

LOL Ian!

 
At 08 November, 2011 18:21, Blogger Len said...

”In addition, notify all current/former federal employees and contractors that failure to respond truthfully and completely to questioning will--in addition to any criminal penalties--result in loss of employment, cancellation of pension benefits, and/or voiding of any employment contract.”

LOL Funny what they think will put the 'fear of God' into low-level conspirators; it's as if they would think to themselves: "I don't mind going to prison for perjury for 10 years but I couldn't bear to lose my job and pension, I'd better tell the truth"

Further, prosecution for lying or refusing to testify for any reason will not be defended by the government.

WAQ is right that makes no sense but they seem to have meant 'Further, lying or refusing to testify for any reason will be prosecuted'

Except there's that pesky 5th Amendment thingy

 
At 08 November, 2011 18:42, Blogger James B. said...

Why not, they repeatedly accused firefighters of covering up the murder of their comrades because they don't want to lose their pensions.

 
At 09 November, 2011 09:51, Blogger Ian said...

Hey, they're up to 70 signatures now! Momentum is building!

 
At 09 November, 2011 10:17, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 09 November, 2011 10:18, Blogger snug.bug said...

Hey, ain't it "wondiful" when some lone flake's action can be misconstrued as a poster boy for 200 million adults who think the government has not told us the full truith about 9/11?

You go, Martini! Knock down them other things on the board!

 
At 09 November, 2011 10:25, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

I thought I heard a goat saying: "Brian, you're a baaaaaaaaad boy."

You molesting those goats again Brian?

 
At 09 November, 2011 10:42, Blogger Ian said...

Hey, ain't it "wondiful" when some lone flake's action can be misconstrued as a poster boy for 200 million adults who think the government has not told us the full truith about 9/11?

Poor Brian. Life's not easy when you're constantly mocked for being an unemployed janitor who wears women's underwear and believe in magic thermite elves, so he has to go around inventing people who agree with him.

Sorry Brian, but there's a big difference between your beliefs in magic thermite elves and the belief that the government hasn't told the whole truth about 9/11 (which is something I believe).

The signatories of that petition believe in magic thermite elves just as you do, and they're a tiny, pathetic, insane minority.

 
At 09 November, 2011 15:32, Blogger snug.bug said...

Ian, it's easy to be mocked on the basis of stuff that isn't true. No problem.

 
At 10 November, 2011 07:22, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, it's easy to be mocked on the basis of stuff that isn't true. No problem.

Right, you make claims that aren't true about meatballs and forks and magic thermite, and we mock you for it. Then you get upset, start squealing, and call us "girls".

 
At 10 November, 2011 12:43, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"Hey, ain't it "wondiful" when some lone flake's action can be misconstrued as a poster boy for 200 million adults who think the government has not told us the full truith about 9/11?"

200 million my ass. World wide maybe. In this country YOU are the 1%.

"Ian, it's easy to be mocked on the basis of stuff that isn't true. No problem"

It's easier to be mocked for thing that you actually do, like believing 9/11 was an inside job, sexually harrassing a peace activist, wearing women's underwear, believing thermite was used to bring down the WTC even though none was found.

 
At 10 November, 2011 13:27, Blogger snug.bug said...

MGF, a 2006 poll showed that only 16% of the American people believed that the government had told us the full truth about 9/11. That number is probably less now that Kean and Hamilton have written that they were set up to fail and the information about WTC7 is getting out. That poll was taken before Architects and Engineers for Truth had even started.

 
At 10 November, 2011 14:26, Blogger Ian said...

MGF, a 2006 poll showed that only 16% of the American people believed that the government had told us the full truth about 9/11. That number is probably less now that Kean and Hamilton have written that they were set up to fail and the information about WTC7 is getting out. That poll was taken before Architects and Engineers for Truth had even started.

And as we've pointed out 1,000 times before, there's a big difference between believing that the government hasn't told us the full truth about 9/11 (as I do), and believing in magic thermite sprayed on by invisible elevator repairmen as the mechanism that destroyed the towers. That's something that a tiny fringe of lunatics like you believe.

 
At 10 November, 2011 14:32, Blogger Ian said...

I mean, just look at what you quoted above. In order to believe the stuff you do, one has to lie to himself about Kean and Hamilton (as you do), believe that the lack of motive and evidence for CD at WTC 7 is overcome by grainy youtube videos, and believe that a one-man charlatan show (Richard Gage) represents some sort of consensus among architects and engineers.

I mean, clearly you have to be insane to believe this, which is why normal people don't. Only failed janitors who believe in modified attack baboons and wear women's underwear like you believe it.

 
At 10 November, 2011 17:26, Blogger Ian said...

The petition is all the way up to 91 signatures! They should easily have 100 by the end of the month!

Great work, truthers!

 
At 11 November, 2011 21:58, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"That poll was taken before Architects and Engineers for Truth had even started."

Translation: The poll was taken before better liars joined the cause.

 
At 12 November, 2011 09:49, Blogger snug.bug said...

MGF, what motivation could the 1632 architects and engineers possibly have to lie?

 
At 12 November, 2011 10:07, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

what motivation could the 1632 architects and engineers possibly have to lie?

Money!

 
At 12 November, 2011 13:08, Blogger Ian said...

MGF, what motivation could the 1632 architects and engineers possibly have to lie?

They might not be lying in their own minds. They might actually be delusional or fanatical enough to believe this nonsense.

Regardless, it's unimportant what a tiny group of crackpots think and why they think it.

 
At 13 November, 2011 08:42, Blogger snug.bug said...

WAQo, what makes you think the 1638 architects and engineers who have signed the petition calling for new investigations get money from this? More likely they risk losing clients, business, and their jobs.

Ian, your reasoning is typically circular: It's unimportant, you say, what a bunch of crackpots think. But how do you know they're crackpots until you know what they think? Thus it is important to understand what they think before you reject it as crackpottery.

 
At 13 November, 2011 09:23, Blogger Ian said...

WAQo, what makes you think the 1638 architects and engineers who have signed the petition calling for new investigations get money from this? More likely they risk losing clients, business, and their jobs.

WAQ is referring to Richard Gage, who is the only person in AE911 Truth. He gets money from it, and he gets the personal satisfaction of being the high priest of a religious cult. I guess it beats designing Wal-Marts in Vallejo.

Ian, your reasoning is typically circular: It's unimportant, you say, what a bunch of crackpots think. But how do you know they're crackpots until you know what they think? Thus it is important to understand what they think before you reject it as crackpottery.

Brian, I know what Richard Gage thinks, and what he thinks is insanity. He's either a crackpot or a charlatan.

 
At 13 November, 2011 13:27, Blogger Ian said...

So Brian, are you watching the Giants-Niners game? I heard Craig Ranke likes the Niners, but Willie Rodriguez is a Giants fan. Who are you going to root for?

 
At 14 November, 2011 13:11, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

WAQo, what makes you think the 1638 architects and engineers who have signed the petition calling for new investigations get money from this?

The stupid books they write. DUH!

Think Brian, THINK!

 
At 14 November, 2011 13:13, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

WAQ is referring to Richard Gage, who is the only person in AE911 Truth. He gets money from it, and he gets the personal satisfaction of being the high priest of a religious cult. - Ian

Spot on Ian, not to mention the DVD & books sales they make.

 

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