Tuesday, May 30, 2006

In Response to Perry Logan

Perry's included us in his links to other folks debunking the 9-11 "Truth" movement, but with an amusing disclaimer:

Lots of good debunking at this site, if you don't step in the right-wing BS. Needless to say, these people think the 9/11 Truth Movement are all liberals gone bad. But keep in mind, they voted TWICE for The Worst President Everâ„¢. Thousands of women and children have died because of them. Yet even these poor, tortured souls can see right through the 9/11 Truth Movement.

I resent that remark; I only voted for Jimmy Carter once. ;)

But I would like to correct one thing. I don't see the 9-11 Truthers as liberals. Some liberals may be Truthers, but I'd suspect they're a small percentage. The Truthers are more likely to be anarchists or very far leftists. There are undeniably some people whom most of us would consider conservative also in the 9-11 Truth movement.

But more Truthers are far left than far right, just as more folks keeping tabs on the Clinton Death List in the 1990s were far right than far left (and just about as nutty). And indeed, Perry even notes that the Truthers like to snort at the "false left-right dichotomy" which is of course the favored trope of far Left celeb-blogger Arianna Huffington.

Anyway, we recognized early on that Perry was, in addition to being a 9-11 "Truth" debunker, a liberal. But in this battle we've got no quarrel with liberals. And he's very funny, which sometimes isn't easy for conservatives when you're debating folks who thought President Bush intentionally killed 3,000 Americans on 9-11.

And we'll try to tone down the right-wing BS. Right Donald--errr, James?


At 30 May, 2006 19:17, Blogger shawn said...

Weird, I make a comment in another thread about this and *poof* here's a new post.

Yes, Perry Logan understands that 9/11 was an Islamist conspiracy.

But he ignores that far-left and far-right people cling to these conspiracy theories. He's a partisan hack, note he doesn't just hate Republicans, but neocons (which are closer to Democrats than Republicans, oddly enough) and libertarians. Libertarians for crying out loud! They're the closest to what the Founding Fathers were and he attacks them. I see very little attacking corrupt Democrats or communists, etc.

At 30 May, 2006 19:17, Blogger shawn said...

While he is sometimes funny, he also comes off as a loon.

At 30 May, 2006 19:30, Blogger James B. said...

The 9/11 conspiracy movement seems to have both an extreme right, and extreme left component. Then there are just those generation x slacker types who hold no particular ideology other then their own arrogance.

At 31 May, 2006 06:32, Blogger shawn said...

He's a partisan hack,
ad hominem

Ah you don't even understand logical fallacies. It's ad hominem if that's my ONLY response to what he has to say. It's when my argument hinges on that. You know, like saying Marvin Bush is related to Dubya, and ergo had something to do with destroying the buildings that day. (That's poisoning the well, a specific type of ad hominem.) I guess you forgot the rest to read the rest of my entry, which goes on to say why he's a partisan hack.

Who is the Commander-in-Chief of the US Armed forces?

The head of the executive branch. What the hell is the point of that question, anyway? I'd love to call you out on yet another red herring, but I'd like to see your tortured logic for this one.

Now my question: what's the evidence for a conspiracy in the death of JFK?

Bonus points if you can get through a response without your totally gay refrains.

"Totally gay". I think someone's pretending to be older than he is. And those refrains would cease once you give your evidence (heh) for the assassination conspiracy involving JFK.

Back and to the left!

At 01 March, 2008 13:10, Blogger Joe said...

Perry Logan seriously needs to just jump off of a bridge, it's people like that that make me never want to vote for a democrat. Do you people not notice how weird and crazy this toolbag is? He has less worth than a cockroach. And people wonder why our congress has been controlled by Republicans for so long....

At 09 December, 2008 20:18, Blogger DeathMcDie said...

This guy need's to be shot or returned to the mental ward.

At 02 November, 2009 17:56, Blogger Unknown said...

I find it odd that in this post it says a lot of Truthers are anarchists. In fact, when you look at one of the major anarchist websites, infoshop.org, there is an entire section dedicated to debunking Truthers.



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