Sunday, May 21, 2006

More Of Those Damn Inconvenient Witnesses

One sign of how far out in left field this movie is, is that even most of the 9/11 conspiracy theorists don't believe the theory that United 93 didn't crash in Pennsylvania. One thing the filmmakers forget is there were eyewitnesses to the event. But don't forget, in conspiracy theory logic, any eyewitness that contradicts your view, is inherently unreliable.

"It dropped out of the clouds," too low for a commercial flight, Butler said. The plane rose slightly, trying to gain altitude, then "it just went flip to the right and then straight down."

He radioed back to his office, telling coworkers Homer Barron, 49, and Jeff Phillips, 30, what he had seen.

"I told them a plane crashed. At first they didn't believe it, because you know, we do joke around."

Then Barron saw smoke and called 911.

The plane came down on farmland reclaimed from a coal-mining operation. Barron and Phillips drove to the crash scene and found a smoky hole in the ground. A few firefighters had already begun pouring water onto the debris.

16 Comments:

At 21 May, 2006 22:07, Blogger ScottSl said...

James if you want to look into the shoot down theory also, might I suggest checking the debris field and compare this with the flight path.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:911_commission_UA93_path.png

http://www.september11news.com/FlightPaths.gif

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_12967.html

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?c=y&imageID=465657&caption=Map+by+International+Mapping

Scott

 
At 21 May, 2006 22:15, Blogger ScottSl said...

If you want a laugh check this out

http://www.archive.org/details/interview-miller

Click interview. Its Wallace Miller.

 
At 22 May, 2006 04:53, Blogger JoanBasil said...

Flight 93 is a very odd crash and that is certainly interesting in itself. I never liked the way the government and the media glommed onto the "passengers saved our whole government" scenario based on a piece of second hand information, Mrs. Beamer thinking her husband said "Let's roll." It was a cartoonish, unserious way to deal with something very serious.

It didn't give me a lot of confidence in how the official investigation would be conducted.

I don't know what happened to Flight 93. I haven't heard or read anything that would prove it was hijacked by 4 or 5 Arabs. "Allahu Akbar" proves nothing; even I knew that phrase prior to 9/11.

 
At 22 May, 2006 05:32, Blogger MarkyX said...

Allah Ackbar is something arabs say. Deal with it.

 
At 22 May, 2006 05:36, Blogger LT said...

joan
Please tell us how you handled the situation the last time the plane you were on was hijacked. We want to know how you did it, so we can compare it with the actions of the passengers on flight 93.

And yes, like James has said, it must be hard for you and your likes to REALLY DETERMINE what happened to flight 93 when there are voice recorded accounts of what went on inside the plane. I wonder why you and your group are the only ones smart enough to SEE THROUGH the government coverup...

Allahu Akbar. A phrase that Muslims chant as they carry out suicide bombing, roadside bombing, PLANE CRASHES, and other attacks against infidels here and abroad. Glad that you've heard it before. It shouldn't be anything for you then to determine what was going on right?

 
At 22 May, 2006 05:36, Blogger LT said...

means God is great.

 
At 22 May, 2006 07:13, Blogger JoanBasil said...

Thats pretty lame. If a hijacker yelled "Geronimo!" would it make him an American Indian? If he said, "Au revoir mes amis!" would it make him French?

 
At 22 May, 2006 08:31, Blogger Alex said...

If he yelled BANZAI! it certainly would make him Japanese.

You're denser than lead Joan. You really think the government put a white CIA dude in the cockpit, and said "drive this plane into the ground, and yell Alluh Ackbar while doing it"? You're losing it babe.

 
At 22 May, 2006 08:47, Blogger LT said...

she never had it.

 
At 22 May, 2006 08:51, Blogger undense said...

Yelling Allahu Akbar is not proof for the CTs to accept that the hijackers were Arab jihadis. (Because it's such a common phrase uttered on airplanes, I suppose.) Yet, they found their own beliefs of a conspiracy on less evidence and shoddier reasoning than that.

The irony in their selective use of logic and rationales is utterly amazing.

 
At 22 May, 2006 09:10, Blogger LT said...

Yep
certainly there's no connection between a phrase that terrorists chant during attacks on infidels, and hearing that chant on an airliner that later crashes, on a day when 3 other planes crashed into buildings inside the United States is truly just a coincidence.lmao

 
At 22 May, 2006 10:43, Blogger nes718 said...

Allah Ackbar is something arabs say. Deal with it.

Could be Zionists intentionally saying to implicate Arabs. Please note, a lot of Zionist Mossad are fluent in Arab.

They have been implicated many times trying to frame Arabs.

 
At 22 May, 2006 12:10, Blogger dman said...

Lets see - 37 phone call (35 on
Airphones, only 2 on cellphones at
end of flight when flying at 5000ft
Passengers report being hijacked
backed up by air traffic controller
tapes when hijackers screw up and
accidently broadcast that plane has
bomb on board. Cockpit voice
recorder capturing hijackers panic
as passengers begin to fight back
and attack cockpit. And you say
we dont know what happened.

I admit will probably never know
exactly what was said/done by
passengers, but have enough to
piece togather what they did with
resonable accuracy.

Please wrap more tinfoil around
head as current helmet not
effective!

 
At 22 May, 2006 12:43, Blogger Chad Chandler said...

"But don't forget, in conspiracy theory logic, any eyewitness that contradicts your view, is inherently unreliable."

According to the CT's, not only are witnesses unreliable, but they have all be threatened by men in black suite and sunglasses that they'll be killed if they talk about "the conspiracy."

Maybe the CT's are right, and all of the passengers from flight 93 are safe in Boulder Mountain along with Elvis Presley, Osama bin Laden, Super Secret Undercover Agent Valerie Plame and St. Germaine.

These conspiracy freaks really crack me up.

 
At 22 May, 2006 13:51, Blogger MarkyX said...

nesync, you have any other sources besides pro-nut sites?

 
At 24 May, 2006 12:04, Blogger Antimajica said...

If hollywood can make movies and if a highschool kid can make a movie, what is so hard to believe that the US Gov. may have staged some of this. I am not saying they did, but I am saying it is possible.

 

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