Never Forget!
We've added a little feature on the sidebar at the right. A script calls up a random victim of the attacks of 9-11 along with some biographical information (and in the future, a small photo). Danny Carlton, a very talented blogger at JackLewis.net, came up with the script. It's easy to add to your blog as well; just follow the instructions at this link. Note: If you are non-technical I can guide you through the process of adding this to your Blogger template; simply send me an email.
posted by Pat @ 10:32 AM
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We won't forget how factions in the US and Israeli govt's MURDERED all of them.
killtown, I know that you have been asked before, but here's another attempt:
Please provide evidence backing up your statement or retract it.
I believe that the laws of the United States of America are very clear that people are to be found innocent under the law unless and until they are found guilty. Please provide the evidence with which you would convict these two governments of murder.
Thank you.
If you want to stage a large scale terror attack such as 9/11 and use it as a pretext to further your agenda in a foreign place, what would you do to get away with it?
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For starters, I would use Iraqis instead of Saudis.
er.. I don't want to stage any scale of terror attack... but I'm going to guess that if I were a member of an extremist movement like the Taliban and/or AlQueda bent on furthering an agenda of fear and an absolutist interpretation of Islam, there's every possibility that I would have acted much like they did.
They were obsessing over those buildings a long time before 9/11...
wait, you were talking about the fact that the hijackers and OBL were the attackers using the attacks to further their aims abroad right?? If not, my request to you is the same as my request to Killtown, please provide evidence backing up your beliefs/assertions or retract them.
... wish I could edit the post... I'd change my request to:
please provide evidence backing up your beliefs/assertions or retract them until such a time as you have said evidence.
K, here.
apparently I was still not specific enough, I apologize.
Please provide the SPECIFIC evidence that the US/Israeli government murdered the victims of 9/11 or retract your statement.
Salman Rushdi being given an "air ban", a standard - annual - training mission of NORAD's, your inexplicable incomprehension of similies and metaphors used when describing events witnessed/experienced, and your incomprehension of the words "missile" and "explosive"; none of these things constitute evidence that the US/Israli governments commited murder.
Please provide specific evidence that clearly illustrates your accusation or retract it.
Thank you.
Please provide specific evidence that clearly illustrates your accusation or retract it.
did you see the Lone Gunmen episode? that should be all the proof anyone needs
Read it all kodiak, read it all.
Have you seen Popular Mechanics' blog Debunking 9/11 Myths?
killtown, I have asked you (repeatedly now) to back up the assertion that you made with evidence. You have not provided specific evidence, instead you offer 200 links and nothing else.
You assume (erroneously) that I have not perused said links in the past. However, that does nothing to answer my request for the specific evidence that you are basing your claims on.
The ball is in your court sir. Please provide the specific evidence. If you cannot do so, then please retract your statement.
To be very clear here, I'm asking for specifics, and if need be, the corellations apparent to you (which we apparently are missing despite wading through those hundreds of news stories) which link the specific evidence into a chain that would withstand scrutiny.
Thank you.
good job killtown,
some of your "smoking guns" contradict eachother.
But I don't suppose you noticed.
BTW, any luck on those interviews that another poster asked you for about 20 times? The ones with the personel from the flight 93 crash.
Feel free to provide that link any time.
back to the topic of this blog post, thanks for the picture blog html. www.911yj.blogspot.com now has this picture code up and running...we will never forget.
We won't forget how factions in the US and Israeli govt's MURDERED all of them.
Well why didn't Israel get Palestinians on the planes then? Or perhaps blame it specifically on Iran? or perhaps Hizbollah? Nah, that'd make too much sense, eh Killtown? Those damn Jews again.
If you want to stage a large scale terror attack such as 9/11 and use it as a pretext to further your agenda in a foreign place, what would you do to get away with it?
First, I would've used a truck bomb or something people expected, because I'd have less chance of failure. I also wouldn't demolish two gigantic towers, because that raises the chance of failure to astronomical levels. Then, as Mark said, I'd make all the hijackers Iraqis. After that, I would fake a specific document linking Saddam to the order of the attack, and not some vague "Oh his people met with Osama's people sometime somewhere".
Once I invaded Iraq I wouldn't go hunting WMDs, I'd destroy the insurgency in its womb and have a stable country. Y'know, just so most Americans would say I was doing a good job.
I like the Jewish people.
I like the Muslim people.
I like the American people.
I don't like the Israeli government most of the time.
I don't like most Muslim governments.
I don't like the present US administration.
Just because the Israeli government takes an action doesn't mean it is always correct because it is Israel doing it.
Just because a Muslim country is taking an action doesn't mean that it is always wrong because they are Muslim.
Just because the Americans take an action doesn't mean it is alway correct.
Jewish is a religion. Jesus was jewish.
Zionism is a secular movement begun in the late 19th century to create an Israeli homeland in Palestine. Zionism is not Judaism. Judaism is a religion of piece.
Judaism does not equal Zionism.
The tenets of the religion of Islam call for peace.
American is not a religion, but is a nationality, just as Israeli is a nationality.
Zionism is a secular movement begun in the late 19th century to create an Israeli homeland in Palestine. Zionism is not Judaism. Judaism is a religion of piece.
A vast majority of the world's Jew are Zionists. Funny you say "Judaism" is a religion of peace, insinuating that Zionism is warlike. Weird how every action taken by Israel has been defensive. That is weird, isn't it? Odd how at every turn it is the Palestinians who turn down what would create the two states. Odd, isn't it?
The tenets of the religion of Islam call for peace.
Except for the parts that say slay the unbelievers. Also founded by a warlord.
OK, Ill take the Goosestepper Codi rice position just for you:
Israel= always good no matter what--all killings justified--even the kids--all good.
Muslims: always bad guys--like the Rambo movies--we should run over in a Nascar race while brain dead spectators watch with glee.
Israel= always good no matter what--all killings justified--even the kids--all good.
What about when the Israeli children die? We don't have emotional pictures of that all over the papers.
It's funny how little you people know about wars. I'm sure the Israelis are like "Hey, I bet there's a lot of kids in there! Let's throw a bomb right on them!" When these extremists strap bombs to themselves they purposely walk into discos and pizza parlors.
It's like you people completely ignore who starts a conflict. This started with Hizbollah (part of Lebanon's parliament, which was supposed to be disarmed by Lebanon) kidnapped Israelis.
Muslims: always bad guys--like the Rambo movies--we should run over in a Nascar race while brain dead spectators watch with glee.
Hmm never said that. Most Muslims are peaceful, loving people. It's the ones who follow the Koran word for word who are a problem (just like Christians who do the same are).
I hate NASCAR by the way, and live in the bluest of the blue states.
I'm so glad people like you weren't around during the Last War Everyone Agreed On.
Why are you bombing Japan?! Think of the children!
I don't want to go tit for tat for dead kids. Oh, the nutbar Muslim walked into daycare center with a bomb---Yes--EVIL.
Israel cluster bombs a city full of children and kills a bunch---BAD--and bomb a UN station bad.
I think most borderline intelligent people believe that they are both NUTBARS--albeit not 911nutbars, but nutbars nonetheless.
So is Israel alway right in all actions, no matter what, under all circumstances? Yes, or no.
Oh, and Zionism is a secular movement.
and bomb a UN station bad.
Hmmm let's look into this more. What flag was flying next to the UN's? Oh Hizbollah's? Where were the rockets being fired from? The UN position? Hmmm interesting.
I think most borderline intelligent people believe that they are both NUTBARS--albeit not 911nutbars, but nutbars nonetheless.
Most intelligent people don't think Israel is insane. It's quite obvious they're the only sane ones over there.
So is Israel alway right in all actions, no matter what, under all circumstances? Yes, or no.
Nope. That's impossible. No country is completely innocent.
Oh, and Zionism is a secular movement.
If there was a movement to make a country for Christians, would you consider it secular? Israel is a secular nation, but the idea of Zionism isn't. The idea that a religious group has the right to self-determination is by definition a religious idea.
Israel cluster bombs a city full of children and kills a bunch---
I missed the cluster bomb part. Let's not exaggerate shall we?
And did the Muslim walking into the daycare leave a bunch of flyers telling them he was going to do it and they should leave. Did he place a phone call? Maybe interrupt their radio for a moment to tell them?
Moral equivalence is a disgusting practice, don't engage in it.
It says that the bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima are the same as the rape of Nanking or the destruction of the Warsaw ghetto.
All mass killing=bad. God doesn't dig it. I think he said don't do it, but probably also said don't justify it so you can sleep soundly at night and go to church on Sunday.
All mass killing=bad. God doesn't dig it. I think he said don't do it, but probably also said don't justify it so you can sleep soundly at night and go to church on Sunday.
I'm an atheist.
And if Israel wanted to commit mass killings they could do it. You don't tend to warn your targets ahead of time if you want to wipe them out.
So again, please answer?
Does Israel ever do bad things----ever?
Yes or No?
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It's hard to argue that any "state" does bad things; the individual people in charge of the state certainly may do bad things, or bad actors within the state apparatus may do bad things.
Does New Jersey routinely do bad things to New York?
bomb a UN station bad.
How about a UN Headquarters? (Look waaaaaay down in the article, under "other developments".)
Does New Jersey routinely do bad things to New York?
Oy. You have no idea. ;)
Does Israel ever do bad things----ever?
I said it's impossible for a nation to be innocent all the time. Perhaps you should start reading my posts.
How that bolsters your retarded argument is beyond me.
So your position is that ISRAEL has NEVER EVER done anything wrong as a government. Yes or No. Please answer and I won't ask you anything more of this.
So your position is that ISRAEL has NEVER EVER done anything wrong as a government. Yes or No. Please answer and I won't ask you anything more of this.
Would you learn to read? Quoting myself:
I said it's impossible for a nation to be innocent all the time.
That means that Israel has been wrong.
Wow! Breakthrough. I'll even absorb the aetheists unfettered insults with glee. I can't believe it...Incredible...Your a good aetheist. So far I have a head count of two aetheists here. Usually, aetheists aren't shy about blurting out stuff (being that there's no pesky judgement to worry about). So HEAD COUNT: All aetheists stand up and be counted.
I really do like aetheists. It's just your rudeness, and A-hole behavior that convinced me you were a corrupted religious hypocrite. Sorry 'bout that. Do you guys sort of hang together---Do you have a debinking religion site---That would be interesting...Are you members of the 101st Fighting Keyboardists-complete with the letter of support from CENTCOM?
Do you have a debinking religion site---That would be interesting...
No, there's already a site that outlines the problem of the Bible.
Are you members of the 101st Fighting Keyboardists-complete with the letter of support from CENTCOM?
I still don't get what you're babbling about here.
I really do like aetheists. It's just your rudeness, and A-hole behavior that convinced me you were a corrupted religious hypocrite.
So in other words, you're an intolerant, stereotyping twit, who's bought the "american hick" stereotype hook, line, and sinker. Let me guess, you live somewhere in europe and beleive that the vast majority of americans are intolerant, inbred, militantly religious christians, with only a grade 2 education, and an IQ that matches their shoe size. As soon as someone disagrees with you, you simply file them away in the "HICK!" section of that large empty cavern between your ears, and then proceed to act like a retard towards them. Am I right?
No...No...I just believe you sodomize billy goats, Alex, and then ride the hershey highway with the nearest road kill chipmunk.
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