Breaking News--Pentagon Citgo Video Released!
Unfortunately it looks like there's nothing to see. The Deniers will be all over the date in the top left; 01-01-93, but you can see the correct date and time in the center of the video.
Update: There are a couple people who see things in the video that seem compelling; not sure whether it's real or not. For example at 1:21 we see something white coming across the screen from right to left in the top right panel, followed by what appears to be an explosive blast at about 1:30.
But I'm more interested about 4:43. There's a sudden white flash in that same top right frame then, but more important, you can see the people in the bottom frame suddenly dash towards the windows to see what's going on.
Raw Story reports that the Doubletree video will also be released no later than November; no word on the Sheraton Hotel.
posted by Pat @ 10:37 AM
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20 Comments:
I look at this evidence positively. It is one more piece of evidence they were whining to have released, and it does not help them in the least.
TAM
It seems that none of the cameras of the petrol station were directed towards the Pentagon, and the Doubletree video will probably reveal nothing either because of the same issue. The idea of these cameras is to safeguard property.
My hypothesis anyway is that when/if footage is released that clearly shows a 757, the truthers will just write it off as a forgery, like they did with the cell phone calls.
How shocking. A security video shows nothing but the store which it is trying to secure.
Like hey man, I mean 93! Like I thought I was bad when my vcr went 12 12 12 12!
How shocking. A security video shows nothing but the store which it is trying to secure.
Not so fast. The BIG problem here is why did the FBI confiscate it so fast and then a FOIA was needed to have it released? Maybe they wanted all the speculation to take attention away from what really happened?
Maybe they wanted all the speculation to take attention away from what really happened?
That the camera doesn't show anything?
"Not so fast. The BIG problem here is why did the FBI confiscate it so fast and then a FOIA was needed to have it released?"
Who knows, and how does it matter? Possibly it was "confiscated" along with every other video in the area at once. Besides, define "so fast". What, was it grabbed up minutes after the impact? Plus, FOIA to get released: Why is that a surprise? It was considered evidence of a crime. Even though it's ultimately useless, someone somewhere still classifies this as potential evidence of a crime.
What are you getting at with those questions? That the FBI's hiding something, or that the FBI's pretending to hide something important in order to deflect attention?
The FBI might well have had reason to seize the tapes, despite them not showing the crash. They may have found evidence of a suspicous observer, or other person in place checking up on the effects of the attack. It probably was a slim chance, but they weren't really taking chances.
As for why it needed an FOIA. Well, the government doesn't just release anything it might consider evidence.
What I find more amusing is that NONE of you troothers put in the effort of filling out an FOIA form let alone follow up on it (unlike the group that actually did). But man, we never heard the end of the 'they won't release the tapes' whine.
It makes no difference to the conspiracy theorists.
If they don't release the tape then it is proof of a coverup.
If they release the tape and it shows nothing, than it wasn't a plane.
If they release the tape and it shows a plane, then it is a fake.
With their logic they win either way.
why is it that everything in this world, right down to a gas security cam, is a godamn conspiracy right out of a Tom Clancy Novel with you CT dopes.
JHC, occasionally things ARE what they seem, and the world is ordinary and simple.
TAM
Even though the government confiscated the tape as part of the investigation, doesn't it still remain the property of the gas station? Maybe some of the delay was in working out the right to release the video?
What, was it grabbed up minutes after the impact?
YES!!!! BINGO!
The FBI might well have had reason to seize the tapes, despite them not showing the crash.
15 Minutes after the impact?
What I find more amusing is that NONE of you troothers put in the effort of filling out an FOIA
wrote a lengthy explanation describing how judicial watch piggybacked on flight77.info's lawsuit, and how they actually had NOTHING to do with forcing the recent video release
Velasquez says the gas station's security cameras are close enough to the Pentagon to have recorded the moment of impact. "I've never seen what the pictures looked like," he said. "The FBI was here within minutes and took the film."
Three Months On, Tension Lingers Near the Pentagon
I don't understand why the FBI would care so much about a terrorist attack on the Pentagon either.
15 Minutes after the impact?
They did it that fast because they could do it that fast.
What, should they have sat on their butts for eight hours before heading out, feigning ineffectiveness to "look less suspicious"?
Tell you what, I theorize that if they'd taken more time, then you'd have gone "Oooh, proof of a conspiracy! They took so long because it didn't interest them to know what hit the Pentagon! They knew it was a plane!". So what's it matter? Damned if you do, damned if you don't. The truthers fry you either way.
I don't understand why the FBI would care so much about a terrorist attack on the Pentagon either.
And that is the most intelligent, funny, and wonderful piece of sarcasm I've read in I don't know how long. Congratulations, pal:D!
By the way, I think it'd be pretty hilarious if the camera indeed did show the Pentagon. I can just picture the people setting the damned cameras up.
"OK, let's put one up here to watch the pumps, one here to watch the front of the store, one here to watch the back of the store, one here to watch this corner, and one here to look over the Pentagon in case a plane hits it and the FBI needs evidence".
Sure S**t:).
I don't know if that's the plane going by at 1:21. It stays in screen for about 5 seconds which at the speed and distance Flight 77 would have been travelling I don't think it would have stayed in picture for that long. I think we might be seeing a car that's travelling by at right that moment.
It's just such a poor quality image to really make any decent judgement.
If the camera is pointing to the gas station entrance then it is pretty much pointing away from the Pentagon. I know, because I drive through that area frequently.
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