Thursday, September 14, 2006

Steven Jones Denies Anti-Semitism

This article gives us a bit more of a clue as to why Jones was suspended by BYU:

The action came two days after Jones appeared on KUER-FM 90.1's respected news talk show "Radio West." On the show, he said it appeared responsibility for the attacks rested with Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle and an "international banking cartel."

The statement drew immediate response from Jews who said they were offended because references to international banking have for decades been used by anti-Semitic groups as codespeak to blame Jews for various problems. Hitler often blamed "international financiers" for Germany's debt after World War I.

A spokesman for the Anti-Defamation League said he will recommend in a committee meeting tomorrow that the ADL send a letter to BYU complaining about the comments and expressing concern that such comments might be made by Jones in his classes. BYU relieved Jones of his teaching load this semester while it conducts a formal review of his research and statements.

"Wow, I don't know if he could be any clearer," said Jonathan Bernstein, regional director of the Anti-Defamation League for California, Utah and Hawaii. "This is the language we hear from David Duke and other hatemongers who want to scapegoat Jews."
Ironically Steven Jones has been one of the least outrageous "scholars". If they want to be offended why don't they listen to Alex Jones or Jim Fetzer, although since neither is currently a professor, they have nothing to be fired from.

On this note, Fetzer was supposed to interview Chris Bollyn from the neo-Nazi American Free Press today, but Chris was a no-show. This obviously points to only one thing, the Jews made him disappear!

So as a result Fetzer rants by himself for most of the two hours. You can listen to it here, if you are a masochist. You could use this to interrogate Al Qaeda prisoners, but the Justice Department would probably rule it illegal. He is interrupted briefly by a handful of callers and RBN radio host John Stadtmiller, freshly back from the Holocaust denial festival, who comes on begging for donations. Sort of a PBS pledge drive from hell.

Fetzer, as usual, repeats his greatest hits. Once again he mangles the phrase allahu akhbar. Inshallah this kaffir will be struck down for repeated blasphemy. The US is still building an oil pipeline across Northern Afghanistan (meanwhile I am still trying to figure out the geography behind that one). Five, 6, or 7 (will you please make up your mind how many) of the hijackers are still alive. Michael Chertoff is a traitor because his mother once worked as a flight attendant in Israel. Let's not forget that George H. W. Bush was involved in the Bay of Pigs, based on the fact that he named his boat Barbara (I don't get that one either).

I am thinking of starting a contest, like those ones I remember from when I was a kid, where you guessed how many jelly beans are in the jar. Guess how many lies Jim Fetzer tells in one radio show and win a prize (do we have any Screw Loose Change t-shirts?).

For pure entertainment value, listen to the "hick redneck caller of the week", Gene from Texas, at the 55 minute mark of the second hour:

I want to add something here. To me, the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 was basically very similar to the twin towers in this way. I don't believe that truck bomb of chicken manure, caused that federal building to be blown away like it was.

No, I am not making it up, that is what he says. And Fetzer agrees with him...

31 Comments:

At 14 September, 2006 22:52, Blogger nesNYC said...

Just like in the Jews and the Lizards, when people get too close to the PTB they are quickly and effectively smeared as "anti-Semite." What are "they" afraid of?

 
At 14 September, 2006 22:57, Blogger nesNYC said...

A spokesman for the Anti-Defamation League said he will recommend in a committee meeting tomorrow that the ADL send a letter to BYU complaining about the comments and expressing concern that such comments might be made by Jones in his classes.

ADL "Jones is a heretic!"

LOL!

 
At 14 September, 2006 22:57, Blogger James B. said...

Damn, how did I guess you would be the first person to post on here? I should put up some google ads for books on Zionism. I could pay for my college tuition just from your click-throughs alone.

 
At 14 September, 2006 23:14, Blogger nesNYC said...

just from your click-throughs alone.

I wouldn't click them because Zionism is a farce. It is the "Jihad" movement for the Jews and unfortunately they got conned into believing it.

Back to the ADL and Jews. I liken these people to the medieval church that orchestrated the inquisitions. Nothing new here. The ADL is effectively silencing dissent by crying "anti-Semitism" when people stray to close to the truth.

ADL = neo-inquisition

 
At 14 September, 2006 23:15, Blogger roger_sq said...

wow. international banking cartel = jews?

That's completely paranoid.

Oh. The JEWS are making the allegation.

Well I am utterly fucking baffled now.

Who is paranoid again?

 
At 14 September, 2006 23:19, Blogger default.xbe said...

nessie, please tell me you dont believe in the lizards, i honestly dont want to lose the last ounce of respect i have you for

(do we have any Screw Loose Change t-shirts?)


i designed these


although none were ever produced

 
At 15 September, 2006 00:22, Blogger JPSlovjanski said...

I have never been accused of anti-Semitism by a lizard, or any other reptile for that manner. A hedgehog once told me I was sexist but she was taking my comment out of context.

 
At 15 September, 2006 04:19, Blogger Conspiracy Smasher said...

How predictable that the stain on the underpants of humanity (aka nesnyc) once again prattles on about those nasty Jews.

 
At 15 September, 2006 04:45, Blogger JoanBasil said...

"The Lady doth protest too much." If the official conspiracy theory collapses the likely suspects are the Israeli government and people affiliated with the Israeli government.

 
At 15 September, 2006 05:20, Blogger shawn said...

It is the "Jihad" movement for the Jews

Hmmm except jihad calls for the world to be brought to Islam by the sword while Zionism wants a little piece of shitty land on the Mediterranean

If the official conspiracy theory collapses the likely suspects are the Israeli government and people affiliated with the Israeli government.

Lucky for them, reality doesn't "collapse".

I liken these people to the medieval church that orchestrated the inquisitions.

Except the Church tortured people (especially Jews, by the way) when they wouldn't convert or confess to imagined sins.

That's completely paranoid.

Hmmm except it's a long running antisemitic meme, roger, you idiot.

 
At 15 September, 2006 05:46, Blogger Chad said...

If the official conspiracy theory collapses the likely suspects are the Israeli government and people affiliated with the Israeli government.

Keyword being "IF". (And pssst!... Just between you and me Joan? It ain't gonna happen...)

However, you folk are more than willing to continue to blame Teh Joos anyway.

Shalom!

 
At 15 September, 2006 06:14, Blogger JPSlovjanski said...

I think we all need to drink because someone referred to the "official story" as a conspiracy theory.

 
At 15 September, 2006 07:28, Blogger nesNYC said...

wow. international banking cartel = jews?

That's completely paranoid.


Please name the families who were the original stock holders to the 'Federal' reserve system in the US.

 
At 15 September, 2006 07:38, Blogger nesNYC said...

nessie, please tell me you dont believe in the lizards, i honestly dont want to lose the last ounce of respect i have you for

No! I don't believe in shape shifting lizards. I post that video so you guys can see how the Jews are sicked on people who dare speak the truth and are then labeled as "anti-Semitic." In Ike's case he says the banking cabal is comprised of shape shifting reptiles and they want to impose a new world order on all of us. How then do the Jews feel what he is saying is "anti-Semitic" and want to tie him to neo-nazi groups? He (Ike) is outlandish it's almost too funny but the Jewish ADL still wants to silence him, why? Same mechanism is at work for Steven Jones in this case.

 
At 15 September, 2006 07:40, Blogger nesNYC said...

Except the Church tortured people

Ah, pressuring universities to take away someone's lively hood is intimidation and a kind of psychological torture in my book.

 
At 15 September, 2006 08:30, Blogger Alex said...

Your book? Don't lie boy, you've never picked up a book in your life. You want psychological torture? If I were in charge, I'd make people like you and Joan get the words "I hate Jews" tatooed on your forehead. See how life treats ya when your perverted biases are displayed to everyone you meet.

 
At 15 September, 2006 10:44, Blogger Dean Malenko Eats Dogs said...

I'm fairly sure that nesnyc has picked up a book once in his life. He put it down, seconds later, after seeing that it had already been coloured in.

 
At 15 September, 2006 11:08, Blogger Swing Dangler said...

Actually if you examine live news footage and statements from officials from the OKC bombing, there were reports of mulitple bombs in the building that morning.

"The ADL has organized to silence and eliminate all critical voices of Israel from academia and the media and has targeted professors , particularly those who are African American, and who are critical of Israel." Oh and they also settled out of court the spying case...
http://www.counterpunch.org/adlspying2.html

Shhhh look the other way...

 
At 15 September, 2006 11:17, Blogger Swing Dangler said...

"It appeared responsibility for the attacks rested with Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle and an "international banking cartel."

Well so much for free speech. Hmm I don't see the BYU Prof. stating 'Jews' as an ethnic group were responsible anywhere.

Opposing Zionism is not anti-semitism. Those arguements that try to link the two otherwise unrelated points that are conjoined and treated as a single proposition should be regarded as fallacies and henceforth ignored. It is expected to accept or reject both together, when in reality one is acceptable while the other is not.
Zionism is a radical political movement, however, often times one is labeled as an anti-semite when critizing the politics of Zionism, and Israel. Don't forget the billions pledged to Israel each year that could be going to stop future terrorist attacks!

 
At 15 September, 2006 11:47, Blogger Rob said...

If this is really why Jones was suspended then it's the worst possible turn of events. Even if Jones came out with a stream of the most rabid anti-semitism, racism or slander - which it hardly sounds like - the only reason he should be punished by the university is because of his published work within his domain not meeting proper standards. Otherwise he can claim, with some justification, that he's been punished for his political statements instead of the quality of his science.

What I suspect has happened is that his increasing media profile turned the attention of the university to his work on 9/11 which was causing such interest. What they saw led them to suspect - correctly in my opinion - that this work is so astoundingly shoddy that it risks bringing the entire physics dept of BYU into disrepute: so they suspend him while physicists, chemists and engineers review his work. Finally his work's getting peer-reviewed: something Jones says he's been trying to do for ages.

 
At 15 September, 2006 11:48, Blogger Alex said...

Actually if you examine live news footage and statements from officials from the OKC bombing, there were reports of mulitple bombs in the building that morning.

And if you examine interviews of Roswell residents, there are reports of multiple UFO's and little gray men with large eyes.

What the fuck's your point? People report all sorts of dumb shit.

...and has targeted professors , particularly those who are African American

Ah, yes, it's the Jews who are racist. Ofcourse, how could I have missed it. Thank you soooo much for that amazing revelation. You're my hero.

Oh and they also settled out of court the spying case...

Nobody cares. Very few spying cases actually go to court. Spying is the dirty little game that everyone plays, and nobody wants to be left out of. So when we catch someone's spies, we usually let them go. That way, THEIR countries will leave our spies alone too. It's one of those in politics things that makes very little sense, but has been going on for decades.

Well so much for free speech. Hmm I don't see the BYU Prof. stating 'Jews' as an ethnic group were responsible anywhere.

Well, technically if I said "let's kill all big nosed bankers who aren't Christian or Muslim", I wouldn't be stating "Jews" either, but I think people would get the drift of my message.

Zionism is a radical political movement

Really, eh? I suppose "Americanism" is a radical political movement too?

Why are so many troofers also disgusting anti-semitic piles of shit? Wait, don't answer that, I can do it. Both anti-semitism and 9/11 denial require a truly perverted personality, the willingness to believe in hateful propaganda, and the ability to suspend skepticism and logic. It's no wonder that so many of you fall into both camps.

 
At 15 September, 2006 15:25, Blogger shawn said...

I'd make people like you and Joan get the words "I hate Jews" tatooed on your forehead.

I'd make him watch an endless slideshow of the victims of the Holocaust to show him how "fake" it really was.

How then do the Jews feel what he is saying is "anti-Semitic" and want to tie him to neo-nazi groups?

Uh most of his audience is racist right-wings, sorry you didn't know that. And equating Jews to lizards (whether he's nuts or not) is antisemitic.

Zionism is a radical political movement, however, often times one is labeled as an anti-semite when critizing the politics of Zionism, and Israel.

Zionism is the belief that the Jews, as a people, have a right to self-determination. I do find anti-Zionism to thus be antisemitic. However, criticism of Israel isn't.

Don't forget the billions pledged to Israel each year that could be going to stop future terrorist attacks!

Don't forget the billions we didn't spend so six million died to the Nazis!

 
At 15 September, 2006 15:30, Blogger beervolcano said...

If all the man said was "international banking cartel," that could mean fucking anything. To me it does sound like a "doth protest too much" situation. Why is the ADL going apeshit just because he brought up Perle's name, Wolfowitz's name, (did he bring up Kristol's name?) and international bankers? What are they implying? That all international bankers are Jews? Or all the founder of PNAC are Jews? Well, they aren't.

 
At 15 September, 2006 16:48, Blogger shawn said...

Well, they aren't.

Perle and Wolfowitz are both Jews, and the "international banking cabal" as I've already stated is a long-running antisemitic idea.

 
At 15 September, 2006 19:37, Blogger JoanBasil said...

Have to put this on the record here: I recall that nesnyc agreed with me when I said the entire population of Israel should be welcome to relocate here in the US. The problem with the state of Israel isn't that the people are Jews but that the small, ethno-race-religion-centered state of Israel wants to dominate with force that region and the hundreds of millions of non-Jews. It was and is a recipe for neverending violence.

 
At 15 September, 2006 20:01, Blogger shawn said...

The problem with the state of Israel isn't that the people are Jews but that the small, ethno-race-religion-centered state of Israel wants to dominate with force that region and the hundreds of millions of non-Jews. It was and is a recipe for neverending violence.

Wow someone isn't exactly a scholar on the subject.

The entire problem is that they are Jews. The Arabs cannot stand them there.

The recipe for neverending violence is antisemitism and false sense of entitlement.

Recall that it wasn't the Israelis that started the violence.

 
At 18 September, 2006 17:12, Blogger roger_sq said...

Well, technically if I said "let's kill all big nosed bankers who aren't Christian or Muslim", I wouldn't be stating "Jews" either, but I think people would get the drift of my message.

Here you are again defending indefensible bullshit. Jones disn't say "big nosed bankers who aren't Christian or Muslim". He said international banking cartel.

Guess what... There IS an international banking cartel. Really! It's fact! And they are not all Jews, and I for one take offense at the Jews assuming they must be in charge of it, because we settled that argument 60 years ago and they lost.

Alex, why can't you hold yourtself to as high a standard as the people you mock?

 
At 19 September, 2006 15:58, Blogger Shaun Knapp said...

Disgusting that Dr. Jones would have had the "anti-Semitism" brush applied to him. What a disgusting interview for Dr. Goldberg to jump on that, and foolishly begin to make a mock of conspiracy theories.

He made it sound as if though those who believe in them are merely inveting them so as to "find meaning" for terrible events.

Nonesense. Disgusting. Idiots all accross the United States who mock "conspiracy" and deny it, show their foolishness and idiocy, a damned state of ignorance of history.

The instant “anti-Semitism” accusation was typical of what one might expect from people wanting to shut up the Scholars for 9/11 Truth.

Dr. Goldberg (if I get the name right) from the U of U foolishly made fun of “conspiracy theories” as people seeking to make or create meaning when tragic events occur. Nonsense.

I would have loved to have gotten on air and blasted them with this quote, which I hope you might use in a future article. This comes from David Rockefeller, from his own book, pubished in 2002, entitled Memoirs:

“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure -- one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”

So who are these phoney people calling in “offended” at the mention of bankers? I don’t know that Rockefeller is a Jew or not, but he’s an International Banker, and he's a traitor and even boasts of "conspiring" against the United States. Rockefeller as an International Banker holds vast wealth and power (putting people like Bill Gates to shame) and here he “boasts” of “Conspiring” against the United States, yet this phony radio show on KUER has guests and the first "caller" (it seemed staged and set up) a Jew who was "deeply offended by the mention of International Bankers.

Here would be an example of vicious treason spoken off by Ezra Taft Benson, Eisenhower's Secretary of Agriculture, just a 7 minute clip.

http://www.awakeandarise.org/media/EzraTaftBenson-selection7min.mp3

Then it might be of worth to hear Dr. W. Cleon Skousen, author of the Naked Communist and The Naked Capitalist speak of the treason against China after WWII.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1225674055778580653&pr=goog-sl

Then, surely seek out the treason being committed by The Rockefeller Establishment, of which David Rockefeller himself boasts.

http://www.awakeandarise.org/article/Borders.htm

Then, watch the documentary that all of the Bashers against Dr. Jones won't address, and are in such a damned state of supor and denial that they would claim it noon while standing in the darnkess of the midnight hour. 9/11 Truth is moving forward despite the "pathological scientists" who are doing all they can to prop up their flawed "government conspiracy theory" which is as foolish a "theory" as any put out there, nonetheless it recieves the full embrace and power of the media and all "officialdom" and thus dupes the unread and unschooled bafoon's who refuse to wake up to a sense of our awful situation because of this secret combination which seeks to overthrow the freedom of all nations, lands, and countries.

http://www.awakeandarise.org/article/911mysteries.htm

 
At 20 September, 2006 11:26, Blogger Rob said...

James B mentioned Jim Fetzer's Afghan pipeline fixation. 'Non-Random Thoughts', Sept 14th 2006. 2nd hour, 26 minutes in:
FETZER: "what they [large American oil companies] wanted among other things was to construct this pipeline across the Northern part of Afghanistan to gain access to Iraqi oil, one of the most impressive sources of oil in the world, and the administration was only too willing to aid them in accomplishing that goal..."

James B wrote "I am still trying to figure out the geography behind that one". Me too. The statement makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Afghanistan and Iraq are nearly 1000 miles apart at their closest, with the not-overly-friendly-to-America Iran in between. Northern Afghanistan gives no "access" to Iraq at all. Even if Fetzer suffered a slip of the tongue and meant to say "pipeline across the Northern part of Afghanistan to gain access to Iranian oil" this still makes no sense - any pipeline from Iran running via Northern Afghanistan would arrive in the extreme Western end of China.

 
At 08 October, 2006 13:54, Blogger RealTruthSquad said...

Clearly, to my mind, Steven Jones WAS intending to blame the Jews. I have debated Steven Jones, Jim Fetzer, and many of their followers by email and on Alex Jones' radio show. (Don't forget that the bizarre Alex Jones warns of a conspiracy to put flouride in our drinking water on his website, at last viewing.)

While I have not previously witnessed Steven Jones expressing anti-semitism, almost everyone else in the swamp that he is swimming in expresses the most extreme and virulent anti-semitism at the drop of a hat, even when it has no relationship to any part of the current topic. Guilt by association? NO... because....

No one in their right mind would MENTION international bankers in relation to 9/11 OTHER THAN as an anti-Jewish slur.

The 9/11 conspiracy theories of the 9/11 Neo-Nuts focuses very, very strongly on the supposed plan to remake the Middle East for the benefit of Israel's SECURITY interests... not for bankers.

The entire discussion is so FAR removed from bankers that there is no OTHER possible meaning for "international bankers" than as a code name for the Jews.

It is not simply the EXCLUSIVE meaning in conspiracy theories that international bankers = Jews but the COMPLETE LACK of any other possible meaning. There is no one who talks about 9/11 as having anything to do with bankers OTHER THAN in the anti-Jewish context.

LOOK AT THIS WAY: WHAT EVIDENCE can Steven Jones share with us tieing BANKS to a conspiracy to fake a 9/11 attack? Answer: None, I am quite sure. ALL of the supposed evidence centers on Jews, and therefore Steven Jones could not have any OTHER meaning in mind. What other meaning is there?

 
At 16 April, 2007 17:53, Blogger Paladin said...

Haven't any of you ever wondered why the US government continues to borrow money from the "International Banking Cartel" when she has the legal, moral, ethical, and constitutional right to print their own currency, completely interest free. And YES, The Federal Reserve is a private banking institution. Until you have taken the time to sit down and read "The Creature from Jeckell Island" You know nothing about The International Banking Cartel. It talls you the complete Who, What, Where, When Why and How of the International Banking Cartel. No lizards, no jews. Find out who said "give me control of a nations currency and I couldn't care less who makes it's laws."

 

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