Jim Meigs in NY Post
On how to join the New World Order:
ON Feb. 7, 2005, I became a member of the Bush/Halliburton/Zionist/CIA/New World Order/Illuminati conspiracy for world domination. That day, Popular Mechanics, the magazine I edit, hit newsstands with a story debunking 9/11 conspiracy theories. Within hours, the online community of 9/11 conspiracy buffs - which calls itself the "9/11 Truth Movement" - was aflame with wild fantasies about me, my staff and the article we had published. Conspiracy Web sites labeled Popular Mechanics a "CIA front organization" and compared us to Nazis and war criminals.
For a 104-year-old magazine about science, technology, home improvement and car maintenance, this was pretty extreme stuff. What had we done to provoke such outrage?
Research.
Yep, that's what did us in, too!
However, we do have very cool badges:
Hat Tip: Scrutinator.
posted by Pat @ 4:06 PM
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31 Comments:
It's da Joooooos.
I don't get it....lol
TAM
He has favored our undertaking.
A new order for the ages. (Though the nuts translate it as "New World Order").
I hear Dylan want to set up a commune in South America....
DO NOT DRINK THE KOOL-AID. Trust me on this.
I wonder if Meigs and Co. would do us a service with a new book investigating PEOPLE and MONEY?
yes those bad evil capitalists, what were they thinking...oh wait, its america...lol
How about investigating the Pakistan connection?
here are my thoughts on this issue.
I can guarantee there were pakistani entities who were helping out the hijackers. As for this joke of a claim that the head of Pakistani Intelligence funded the hijackers, show me one article that makes the connection, besides the "Times of India"...please note, articles that simply quote this magazine do not count, so throw out your Wall Street Journal article, as that is all it does...
The claims that Mossad was actually "shadowing" the 9/11 terrorists?
Show me enough proof to warrant an investigation.
Look into the (still unclaimed) profits from short-selling of Airline stocks?
Alot of it was reclaimed. The rest was likely left out of guilt of how they made it.
Show me proof from 2005-2006 that shows it is still mostly unclaimed.
Meigs wants to have us believe that the selective debunking of misused quotes and amateur internet theories proves there is no conspiracy surrounding 9/11?
If you have more than what Miegs has debunked, SOLID HARD EVIDENCE, as opposed to the things you say he debunked, than link away...this should be good.
I suppose they must take the same stance as the 9/11 commission, that the bankrollers of the attacks are of "little practical significance"?
they are of little significance because it is almost certain that the bankrollers are two faced saudi and pakistani officials. So what...we know there is severe corruption in both countries.
Just like the 9/11 commission did to the victims family members, they're ignoring the hard questions that they can't so easily dismiss
Name the hard questions that have not been answered?
Watch this new video and see what I'm talking about. It focuses on Paul Thompsons 911 timeline and the victims families press for truth leading up to the 911 commission. It's well done and interesting to watch even if you're stuck on the "official" side.
You lost me at "Paul Thompson"...sorry.
Kind of me asking you to watch this PNAC publicity video that proves the terrorists did it...would you give it any credit...no.
TAM
Andrew, if you have blogger, you can compose your comments in the 'Create New Post' screen, complete with links, and then copy and paste them into your post.
WRT the points you raise, the Pakistan connection's unproven; the stories all eventually go back to a Times of India article which was unsourced.
The Mossad bit, hey, you and Justin Raimondo can keep chasing that.
Unclaimed profits from trading? Is that the SF Chronicle article from September 2001? You do know that those contracts would have settled the third week in October?
Osama gets his funding from various sources, but he's definitely had a crimp put in those operations (no thanks to the NY Times).
this was pretty extreme stuff. What had we done to provoke such outrage?
Lie.
So how'd the revolution go, mate?
Was it the massive gathering you expected?
It was what it was. The real revolution has just begun:
9/11: Press for Truth
Look into the (still unclaimed) profits from short-selling of Airline stocks?
Do you people do any actual research whatsoever? You can't buy millions in put options on from some guy on a street corner, you have to have an account set up with a broker and they have to buy a contract. Most brokers will exercise the option for you automatically. And why would they pay money for an option, only to not claim it anyway?
Geez, you repeat some rumor from October 2001, before the options even expired, and suddenly is "still" the truth.
You fools expected thousands
Thousands didn't turn up for Bu$h what makes you think we expected thousands?
- Who is He? The Anti-Christ, the devil.
Most likely British monarchy and will rule the world from Jerusalem after the next world war.
- The whole damn thing flies into the face of God. Jesus is the only way, truth, and life.
- Who is He? The Anti-Christ, the devil.
Easy there Pat Robertson. Gotta keep an eye on the blood pressure in your old age.
- "Annuit Cœptis" mean "He has Favored Our Undertakings." Who is he?
God.
- "Novus Ordo Seclorum" means "New Order of the Ages"; eg, the New Order George H Bush first spoke of in 9/11/90. exactly 11 years before 9/11.
He said "new world order" which is a generic term for whenever power shifts happen. Following WWI there was a new world order, following WW2 there was a new world order, and after the Cold War there was a new world order.
- Who is He? The Anti-Christ, the devil.
As someone who's studied religion extensively (and used to be quite devout), I do know that Revelations is only a subversive writing attacking the Romans. The Antichrist is Nero.
God.
Which one?
Which one?
There's only one.
singular god with a capital G refers almost exclusively to the judeo-christian (and muslim) god
I think he's gonna say they worship a different god. We'll just add it to the long list of things he's got wrong.
The "God" they are referring to is Lucifer.
"In God We Trust" on the dollar is Lucifer not the God of Abraham.
IN GOD WE TRUST CAME FROM A HYMN OR INVOCATION TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WRITTEN BY ALEISTER CROWLEY. It is an invocation to manifest the New Aeon and drive America and the world into INDEPENDENCE (from the God of Abraham)!
born 1875, his invocation was likely a mockery of the US motto
In God We Trust was first used on paper money in 1957 when it appeared on the one-dollar Silver Certificate. Kind fits the time frame no?
BTW..
"In God is our trust." <> "In God We trust"
~NEXT!~
BTW, the dollar is loaded with Masonic symbolism. Crowely was a high degree Mason so ..
And look at this hat he's wearing, look familiar?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Aleister_Crowley_4.png
"In God is our trust." <> "In God We trust"
Please explain the substantive difference between the two phrases. Apparently, the 1864 US Mint felt they were equivalent. Whoever fed you that line about Crowley was either wrong or lying, Nesnyc.
"In God We Trust" on the dollar is Lucifer not the God of Abraham.
He does get dumber by the day.
Lucifer wasn't a god, moron.
BTW, the dollar is loaded with Masonic symbolism.
Washington was a Mason.
for example if i asked my little sister to design a dollar bill im sure it will have several disney princesses on it with th emagic kingdom on the back, however this is not evidence of some disney conspiracy, it just means my sister likes disney
You can bet that nessie would find all kinds of illuminati crap on _that_ dollar as well.
I guess you never heard the CT about Mickey Mouse being a jewish ploy to get children to like jews.
And no, I'm not joking. I'll bet Nazinyc beleives in that one too.
So yeah, your sisters dollar bill would be evidence of the NWO plot too :)
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Lucifer, being an angel, is only a demigod.
"In whom the god of this world hath blinded..."
Plus, it was a backhanded swat at the "god (lower case "g") of this world", who was limited to the earthly and not spiritual realm.
In other words, it was a mocking use of the word "god", sort of the modern rhetorical equivalent of enclosing in irony quotes.
Did you know the root word used to create the name Lucifer means "light bringer" in latin?
He was the Morning Star (the Roman lucifer does literally mean "light bearer" but that was the term for Venus aka the Morning Star). He was called this because he was the most beautiful and favored of all the angels.
I'm aware of the linguistic nature of Biblical figures (especially the more interesting ones. Satan means "Adversary".
Oh, and the idea that Freemasons have anything to do with Lucifer comes from a hoax by Leo Taxil (a former member).
Jack, Freemasonry is a frat for grown men.
Why is that every thing with you is so simple? Oh, I know because you don't do any research or ask any questions.
Actually, it's because I do research that I understand the actuality of a situation. Sorry for you (and likeminded folk) but the truth is usually simple and very boring.
"New Order of the Ages",
Which referenced a liberal democracy. You people tend to miss out on this thing called 'context'.
Call me parinoid if you must.
Ok.
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