Sunday, December 31, 2006

About That FBI Poster

The Deniers like to make a big deal out of the fact that the FBI's most wanted poster for Osama Bin Laden doesn't mention his involvement in the 9-11 attacks, but instead notes the 1998 embassy bombings. But... get the note at the bottom regarding rewards for his capture:

The Rewards For Justice Program, United States Department of State, is offering a reward of up to $25 million for information leading directly to the apprehension or conviction of Usama Bin Laden. An additional $2 million is being offered through a program developed and funded by the Airline Pilots Association and the Air Transport Association.

17 Comments:

At 31 December, 2006 13:58, Blogger Lying_Dylan said...

Why wouldtt it mention the 9-11 attacks?

 
At 31 December, 2006 16:17, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, I still note the curious lack of actual charges in connection with that little crime, despite some pilots' desire for revenge.

 
At 31 December, 2006 16:24, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gee, maybe because the FBI has no evidence connecting Bin Laden with the attacks. Kinda like how the Dallas police had no evidence when they arrested Lee Harvey Oswald.

 
At 31 December, 2006 17:33, Blogger default.xbe said...

you know in any other country bin laden would have been tried in absentia, convicted and sentenced to death, only america has a beaurocratic structure geared so heavily toward criminal rights that he cant even be indicted because all the evidence is of unknown provinence

but, people still find a reason to complain

seriously though, if 9/11 was an inside job, would the FBI let such a huge mistake slip by?

"well, operation 9/11 went off without a hitch"
"umm, sir, theres one problem....the FBI forgot to blame bin laden"
"crap, well lets correct that ASAP"
"we cant"
"why not?"
"..."


i cant think of a reasonable way to finish that conversation, maybe an imaginative CTer can fill in the blank

 
At 31 December, 2006 18:25, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, Oswald never got his day in court. Court cases have things like lawyers, evidence, defense lawyers, etc. The court of public opinion has no such stringent standards - just CTers - This isn't an oversight as I see it, just evidence of the venue chosen for the bin Laden 9/11 trial.

 
At 31 December, 2006 19:06, Anonymous Anonymous said...

He wasn't indicted for the 1993 WTC bombing, either. Kinda makes a person wonder about this "crackpot" theory. If nothing else, that's one talented family.

 
At 31 December, 2006 20:43, Blogger Lying_Dylan said...

What a pathetic sad fuck Jake is.
You fuckin gutless coward.

 
At 31 December, 2006 20:46, Blogger Lying_Dylan said...

Jake is probably the same sad pathetic sack of shit who threatened Danny B's 12 year old daughter.

Now doubt Jake lives at home with mommy and would never have the balls to reveal who he really is.

Too bad Jake that when your mom was working the streets she forgot the rubbers.

 
At 31 December, 2006 21:33, Blogger Manny said...

only america has a beaurocratic structure geared so heavily toward criminal rights that he cant even be indicted because all the evidence is of unknown provinence

Actually it's the bureaucratic structure that is precisely why he's not ever going to be indicted. If you indict a guy and he turns up alive and in custody, you have to put him on trial. You have to get him an attorney, empanel a jury, abide by federal sentencing laws, etc.

Stuff like that was the Clinton theory of dealing with international terrorism -- that terrorism is first and foremost an international law enforcement problem and that the most appropriate way to deal with it is through the FBI, Interpol, et. al., with military involvement as necessary.

The Bush theory is kill the fuckers. We're at war. We'll use the FBI and Interpol as necessary, but our primary means of dealing with international terrorism is to terminate international terrorists with extreme prejudice. Or if they turn up alive and in custody, have a friendly chat with them to determine what information they might have and then terminate them with extreme prejudice.

One might reasonably agree or disagree with the Bush theory on how to deal with these people. But it's not some kind of back-door indication that they didn't do it. It's a front-door, yelling to the world indication that the people who did this don't have rights under our civil law system.

 
At 31 December, 2006 23:37, Blogger shawn said...

Gee, maybe because the FBI has no evidence connecting Bin Laden with the attacks

Only several taped confessions.

Kinda like how the Dallas police had no evidence when they arrested Lee Harvey Oswald.

Seen fleeing the Texas Book Depository isn't evidence? I'd wonder why a guy looked ruffled in the cafe (like he ran down flights of strairs) after the president was shot from his direction.

Not only that, but he shot a police officer.

 
At 01 January, 2007 02:05, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Check this out:
"The alleged terrorists on this list have been indicted by sitting Federal Grand Juries in various jurisdictions in the United States for the crimes reflected on their wanted posters. Evidence was gathered and presented to the Grand Juries, which led to their being charged. The indictments currently listed on the posters allow them to be arrested and brought to justice. Future indictments may be handed down as various investigations proceed in connection to other terrorist incidents, for example, the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001."
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/fugitives.htm

If they catch him, the charges will be filed. Until then they've got more than enough to arrest and hold him for.

 
At 01 January, 2007 05:32, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

exactly. It is like getting a warrant to get somebody on charge X, an easy charge, then while you have them on charge X, you further charge them with Charges Y and Z.

AS for jakes comments, can he not be banned from blogger for violation of TOS (displaying personal information on someone without their permission)?

TAM

 
At 01 January, 2007 09:33, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And the funny part is guess who pointed this out...it was IVXX over at the Loose Change forum, go figure. Maybe the recent "conversion" of pdoherty has a far reaching influence.

 
At 01 January, 2007 09:36, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jake, what the hell...you are a perfect example of why your mom should have swallowed.

 
At 01 January, 2007 10:10, Blogger James B. said...

This is a silly argument. It is not like if some guy from 5 Group runs across Osama, he is going to let him go because the FBI website doesn't list 9/11 specifically.

 
At 01 January, 2007 13:25, Blogger R.Lange said...

shawn wrote: "Only several taped confessions."

Heh. I do enjoy how the "Truth" Movement constructs this elaborate conspiracy, which, according to their disconnected claims, seems to have been botched in an equally elaborate fashion.

For the CTs who believe the confession tapes were faked: even you have to wonder why the FBI would still fail to add 9/11 to Osama's wanted list.

The U.S. government according the "Truth" Movement: In on it... and completely "out of it".

 
At 03 January, 2007 14:25, Blogger Manny said...

For the CTs who believe the confession tapes were faked: even you have to wonder why the FBI would still fail to add 9/11 to Osama's wanted list.

Well, tradition, of course. See, killing 3,000 people, hijacking one's country's own civil aircraft, attacking one's own military command structure, paying off or intimidating tens of thousands of people into silence, killing the economy, all those things are OK. But messing with the 10 most wanted list? That's just going too far, man!

That, in a nutshell, is how CT reality works.

 

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