Screw 9/11 Mysteries - Clunkity Clunk Edition
Since this is the hot new video of 9-11 Denial, our buddy The Doc put together an excellent debunking:
| This is a counter-video to the first edition of "9/11 Mysteries". Using their own video and words, "Screw 9/11 Mysteries" aims to point out not only the bad science used in the film, but also the several accounts of lying, quote mining, tricky editing and strawman arguments. NOTE: There may be some grammatical errors in this video. Everything was spell-checked but I can't promise anything. Coming Soon: http://www.911mysteriesguide.com http://www.lolloosechange.co.nr http://www.lolinfowars.co.nr http://www.911myths.com http://www.debunking911.com http://www.loosechangeguide.com http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com http://thedoc911.blogspot.com | |
There's also a bit torrent, high-quality, DVD edition and a downloadable version here. If you have trouble reading the print overlay, you can also watch at Google here; just choose "fit to window" (little button at bottom left). The Doc is also working on a Viewers Guide which will be available here.
Kudos to The Doc! Clunkity clunk!
posted by Pat @ 10:40 AM
48 comments
48 Comments:
clunkity clunk!
BG's mindless spamming/idiotic opinions in 3...2...1
BG's mindless spamming/idiotic opinions in 3...2...1
Exelent movie!!
Kudos to The Doc and MarkyX!
To bad u forgot to debunk one thing though.
At 32:12, you see a chunk of from the out columns wedged in the building. They claim it shot all the way up there.
Thats a lie.
If u look at the next picture in the top right corner, you can see the chunk sticking out of the building.
bleh, wa typing something but i wanted to change it, but i forgot to delete the first part, so now it looks all screwed up...
Yatesey,
sorry to disappoint....
Yatesey, Just for You:
'London bomb plot was just a hoax'
Attorney General: "The Constitution doesn't say that every individual in the United States or every citizen has or is assured the right of habeas corpus. It doesn't say that. It simply says that the right of habeas corpus shall not be suspended." (dailykos.com)
Dems to AG: How Many Prosecutors Have You Pushed Out?
BG, you retarted nutter, is it really that hard for you to actually comment on the topic itself, or do you just like to spam for no particular reason.
You have your own Blog, so you can fill that with all your off topic links all day long. So stop being such an ass, because its getting really boring.
Update: Specter Admits Role in Expanding WH Powers
Yatesey provoked me......
And anyhow, after one says: "Clunkity Clunk", what could possibly be said further on the subject?
(911coverup said...
Wtc7=controlled demolition)
How about some proof to back up your mindless babble
Lying_Dylan said...
I can type
Lying_Dylan=shits 100 dollar bills out his ass'
Right, Jay, I was breaking up the continuity of a fascinating thread.
Bagel recipes easily available on line. Proof of JEW involvement
Ok so know we debunked 9/11 Mysteries. Are you ready to move the goal post again truthers? What film should be debunked next?
Hope you guys like it :)
Stevew said:
How about some proof to back up your mindless babble
you've got to be kidding right? Asking a CTer for proof on a 9/11 CT is like asking my child to prove there is gold at the end of the rainbow.
"But dad, it says so in my nursery rhyme book, so it must be true".
Yes son...of course it is true.
TAM
I think 9/11 Mysteries is actually dumber than Loose Change. I can't believe the CTs moved the goal posts to this nonsense. Can't wait for the next one we "have to debunk". Probably someone Judy Wood cooks up.
Might as well start working on debunking the Star Wars movies. The only question is which version of the Death Star will she refer to.
9/11 mysteries is too long. Well, for the makers to actually be able to remain coherent, anyhow. Was it an implosion or an explosion? Make your minds up, people!
And I have no idea why anyone would want to have any thermite around WTC, even though it is useful stuff (just not for demolishing buildings).
Sorry TAM
I must have lost my head :)
I finally finished the video, excellent destruction of Sofia's nonsense.
The end part really got to me. Everytime I see those monsters, let alone hear them speak, I am filled with such an unbelievable rage.
Delenda est al-Qaeda.
why so bitter tempestuous. Like I tell my children...if you don't want to watch it, turn the channel, or go watch tv downstairs...
TAM
I was rather pleased to see "The Usual Suspects" spliced in at the end of the film. Those confessions of the hijackers were chilling. As a complement to the "Usual Suspects," I recommend the beautifully researched book "Perfect Soldiers" by Terry McDermott. I think most will come away with a clearer picture of the intent of these murderers.
Tempestuous wrote: "You've started with Christ and worked your way forward. Pathetic"
You're saying that debunking Christ is just an easy, first step? Not exactly a ringing endorsement for you Lord and Savior, is it?
there seems to be one flaw in the video that i have seen so far... right about 1:10:00 into the movie, there is a discussion of pyroclastic flow and that it could not possible have formed in a building collapse... according to what i can read on the subject, such a flow can be cooler than 100c and they are created by a gravity fed collapse... the use of the Greek "pyro" in the term is used to refer to the glowing of the cloud that is usually seen in volcanic activity... i propose that it very well could have been classified as a pyroclastic flow... there was fire present in the structure as it collapsed.. and it was a gravity fed projection of debris... as it is pointed out multiple times in earlier sections of the film, no one has ever seen a structure of this size collapse... so there isn't any precedent for this the amount of force involved nor the amount of acceleration created by gravity...
I only hope you post a debuking add-on to every 9/11 conspiracy movie ever made!
I didn't see the movie, but please tell us how Building #7 fell down, just like it was demolished, yea I really liked that fairy tail. And, when was the last time any of you replaced the exhaust manifold on your car engine. Like it gets up to about 900 degrees so they should melt or something - right? I think there are some real questions that need answers, not just mindless conjecture. For now I stay out of any steel reinforced structure, never can tell when they will just fall down!
All I want to know is how does a perfectly good building fall down in a heap of rubble without being hit by anything (Building #7). And, without any serious metal melting blast furnace type fires going on inside. Not to mention that no other structural steel building had ever previously collapsed even after days of burning. Where is the science in that scenario?
First off, 900 F exhaust temperatures? What kind of car are you driving?! Better check your A:F ratio there high speed. Second, WTC 7 was hit by another building and suffered severe damage to both the south wall and the south west corner. Fires also burned throughout the entire building for most of the day. Finally, there have been other buildings that have collapsed because of fire. Do just a little bit of research before making an ass out of yourself please.
900 F exhaust temperatures? Must be a top fueler LOL
It happens WTC7 was built over two electrical substations owned by the old electrical utility Coned. It's an unusual design. It has a series of cross truss steel girders that are literally holding it up and after it was built, they were the main support of the building. When the steel cross trusses weakened the building was doomed, the center had the greatest load and the heat from the 45000 gallons of fuel was concintrated in the middle of the structure and not around the perimeter. WTC #7 had a lot of damage from the colapse of the towers as well, some 20 stories tall.
There are two other possible contributing factors. First, trusses on the fifth and seventh floors were designed to transfer loads from one set of columns to another. With columns on the south face apparently damaged, high stresses would likely have been communicated to columns on the building's other faces, thereby exceeding their load-bearing capacities.
They stored 45,000 gallons of diesel fuel there, that was used for emergency fuel for generators and burned for 7hrs under the main load bearing supports.
THE GUY WHO PUTS TOGETHER THE DEBUNKING OF THE 911 VIDEO IS EITHER MENTALLY DYSFUNCTIONAL OR A REAL FAR RIGHT WING NUT JOB. HERE IS MY POINT, AND FEEL FREE TO ATTEMPT TO DEBUNK ME.
1-there are FIREFIGHTERS on record by name who have CLEARLY said that they were under a RESTRAINING order not to talk about the BOMBS THAT WERE PLACED in the twin towers on 911.
2...THIS CLOWN actually has the GALL to say that THE HEAD construction supervisor of the twin towers IS A JERK FOR EVEN IMPLYING the use of the NET COMPOSITION effect of the twin towers to RESIST such a force of yes.."multiple impacting airliners"...HOW CONVIENENT OF THIS IDIOT TO TELL A DEAD GUY and construction supervisor of the towers that he is out of his mind.
3..DISBELIEVES in the official criminal bush administration version of 911 did not say that A STEEL BUILDING NEVER collapsed after being on fire...WE HAVE SAID THAT A STEEL BUILDING HAS NEVER collapsed LIKE in demolition style...YES steel buildings have BROKEN off and then collapsed...A BIG DIFFERENCE.
and ALL scientific INFO all points to the fact that JET FUEL can ONLY burn at a top temperature of 1700 degrees,,FAR below what it would have TAKEN for the STEEL BEAMS to really reflect and RESPOND to the jet fuel affect in those AREAS on the twin towers...AND the chances OF BOTH PLANES having done the CORRECT perfect damage to the STRUCTURE of the FLOORS as the so called PLANES entered into those buildings ,,,THE PROBABILITES are a billion to one. AND ACCORDING to the un biased PROFESSOR Jones,,,YES KORDITE was found in the final COLLAPSED debree at ground zero..THIS is the ONLY ingredient KNOWN to be as a ABSOLUTE necessity to HELP bring down the STEEL colums for the affect needed THAT WE ALL SAW on 911.
4...THE MORON of this video does not reflect at all of the APPALING mess the pentagon so called attack is DRESSED UP IN...THE MISSING OR STOLEN VIDEOS by the Bush administration,,,RELEASING A VIDEO THAT IS TOTALLY FAKE,,,and DAMAGE on the front of the Pentagon THAT NOT ONLY DOES NOT ACCOMODATE a airliner BUT ALSO NOT A MISSLE EITHER.....you are ONE SICK DUDE MR DEBUNKER....WHAT DAMAGED THE FRONT OF THE PENTAGON,,,minus THE REAL VIDEOS to prove me wrong,,,HIGH TECH MOMBS placed on the front of that building AND TIMED OUT TO EXPLODE perfectly by the EVIL DOERS of the Bush administration and the Illuminati who ordered this mess from hell called 911.
5...AND YOU INSULTUOUS little bastard TO NOT EVEN mention the total HYPOCRITICAL fake theatre of the FAKE crash site in PA at shanksville and the OTHER crash site spread out according to cheney and rumsfeld from some 2-8 miles also in PA,,,,WITH NO PICTURES ever having been taken or shown to us the DEMANDING public.
5a..and finally,,,OUR AIR DEFENSE THAT DAY was emersed in a ILLEGAL STAND DOWN or a totally incompeten AIR DEFENSE RESPONSE...which is it big guy of DEBUNKING LAND,,,and if you HAVE THE BALLS to claim the air defense was RIGHT on the mark,,THEN SHOW ME logs that prove it and SHOW ME VIDEOS where the DEFENSE response is even WITHIN reasonable SHOUTING DISTANCE of the planes hitting the TOWERS AND THE PENTAGON AND chasing after the PA hi jacked plane.
6..OH YES 911 was an inside job,,,AND THIS DEBUNKER KNOWS IT,,,,still think it was not?...THEN EMAIL me but make it good : frankradiotv@yahoo.com and or call me at 718-390-6635
leave your name and number if I am not in or asleep.
THE GUY WHO PUTS TOGETHER THE DEBUNKING OF THE 911 VIDEO IS EITHER MENTALLY DYSFUNCTIONAL OR A REAL FAR RIGHT WING NUT JOB. HERE IS MY POINT, AND FEEL FREE TO ATTEMPT TO DEBUNK ME.
1-there are FIREFIGHTERS on record by name who have CLEARLY said that they were under a RESTRAINING order not to talk about the BOMBS THAT WERE PLACED in the twin towers on 911.
2...THIS CLOWN actually has the GALL to say that THE HEAD construction supervisor of the twin towers IS A JERK FOR EVEN IMPLYING the use of the NET COMPOSITION effect of the twin towers to RESIST such a force of yes.."multiple impacting airliners"...HOW CONVIENENT OF THIS IDIOT TO TELL A DEAD GUY and construction supervisor of the towers that he is out of his mind.
3..DISBELIEVES in the official criminal bush administration version of 911 did not say that A STEEL BUILDING NEVER collapsed after being on fire...WE HAVE SAID THAT A STEEL BUILDING HAS NEVER collapsed LIKE in demolition style...YES steel buildings have BROKEN off and then collapsed...A BIG DIFFERENCE.
and ALL scientific INFO all points to the fact that JET FUEL can ONLY burn at a top temperature of 1700 degrees,,FAR below what it would have TAKEN for the STEEL BEAMS to really reflect and RESPOND to the jet fuel affect in those AREAS on the twin towers...AND the chances OF BOTH PLANES having done the CORRECT perfect damage to the STRUCTURE of the FLOORS as the so called PLANES entered into those buildings ,,,THE PROBABILITES are a billion to one. AND ACCORDING to the un biased PROFESSOR Jones,,,YES KORDITE was found in the final COLLAPSED debree at ground zero..THIS is the ONLY ingredient KNOWN to be as a ABSOLUTE necessity to HELP bring down the STEEL colums for the affect needed THAT WE ALL SAW on 911.
4...THE MORON of this video does not reflect at all of the APPALING mess the pentagon so called attack is DRESSED UP IN...THE MISSING OR STOLEN VIDEOS by the Bush administration,,,RELEASING A VIDEO THAT IS TOTALLY FAKE,,,and DAMAGE on the front of the Pentagon THAT NOT ONLY DOES NOT ACCOMODATE a airliner BUT ALSO NOT A MISSLE EITHER.....you are ONE SICK DUDE MR DEBUNKER....WHAT DAMAGED THE FRONT OF THE PENTAGON,,,minus THE REAL VIDEOS to prove me wrong,,,HIGH TECH MOMBS placed on the front of that building AND TIMED OUT TO EXPLODE perfectly by the EVIL DOERS of the Bush administration and the Illuminati who ordered this mess from hell called 911.
5...AND YOU INSULTUOUS little bastard TO NOT EVEN mention the total HYPOCRITICAL fake theatre of the FAKE crash site in PA at shanksville and the OTHER crash site spread out according to cheney and rumsfeld from some 2-8 miles also in PA,,,,WITH NO PICTURES ever having been taken or shown to us the DEMANDING public.
5a..and finally,,,OUR AIR DEFENSE THAT DAY was emersed in a ILLEGAL STAND DOWN or a totally incompeten AIR DEFENSE RESPONSE...which is it big guy of DEBUNKING LAND,,,and if you HAVE THE BALLS to claim the air defense was RIGHT on the mark,,THEN SHOW ME logs that prove it and SHOW ME VIDEOS where the DEFENSE response is even WITHIN reasonable SHOUTING DISTANCE of the planes hitting the TOWERS AND THE PENTAGON AND chasing after the PA hi jacked plane.
6..OH YES 911 was an inside job,,,AND THIS DEBUNKER KNOWS IT,,,,still think it was not?...THEN EMAIL me but make it good : frankradiotv@yahoo.com and or call me at 718-390-6635
leave your name and number if I am not in or asleep.
9/11 Debate: Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics on utube
idiots - 0 popular mechanics -1
two college kids who thinks they are smarter than everyone who actually know what they are talking about
Your efforts are desperate attempts to cover up the truth. At this point there is so much evidence that 911 was an inside job that one must make a concious effort to disbelieve it.
Anyone with half a brain can see that towers 1 & 2 were shredded as they came down. News casts interviewed eyewitnesses that day that said there were bombs going off before the towers came down. What was happening is that the lower levels were being hollowed out to create space for the debris that was to come when they brought down the towers.
To say that WTC 7 collapsed because of fire is humorus. All one needs to do is watch the videos of it "collapsing" to see the cutter charges go up the side of the buildings.
Why didn't you discuss how Bush didn't want the investigation done and how he allocated only $11 million to fund it (we spent over $40 million to investigate Bill's blowjob).
Also, there were multiple drills running on 9-11. These drills included scenarios of attack similar to the real one. This gave the govt cover and confusion with all agencies involved. Norman Minetta's testimony concluded that Cheney was watching the plane fly into the Pentagon and did nothing. Where's the discussion of that.
If you're gonna debunk anything you must consider all the facts. Truth is, there are volumes of evidence, 90% of which isn't mentioned in "911 mysteries".
Bottom line...The world knows 911 was an inside job. No one wants to believe the government did it, but they did.
NIST lied about the construction of the buildings. Read em and weep:
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/blueprints.html
The blueprints have been hidden from public since 911.
Whath WTC 7 "collapse" See the cutter charges going up the building:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_charges.html
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close look at cutter charges for WTC 7.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/wtc7_cutter.wmv
watch them go up the right side of the building....
How nicely this building came down. How long does it take to rig a building for demolition? Days, weeks. How come the building was demolished.
How did the Secret Service know Bush wasn't a target? If they hadn't know he would have been whisked away:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/9-11secretservice.html
Thank you so much for this video. It's good to see that there's some reasonable thinkers out there willing to counteract madness such as 9/11 mysteries.
Keep up the good work
Wow. I sat hoping that this "debunking" was actually going to have some substance. after watching 1/2 of it, I realized that it's nothing more than an unifomed, factless attack on someone elses video. Obviously, you're not a prosecutor, or even remotely intelligent based on your comments during the presentation. I would have been EMBARRESSED to have spent many hours producing this lame video. YOU should be.
First I watched the original video, then I watched your version. Any one with half a brain would know that those conspiracy theries are absolutelly false and it is all politicaly driven. If Clinton would have been in power these clowns would never be making any of these allegations. Accusing your goverment of mass murder in most countries would be a severly punished crime. Support your country and stop making these stupid and rediculous conspiracy theries.
why is it that some people find it too hard to believe that the terrorist attacks were actually carried out by a small group of murderous fanatics but have no problem believing that a government conspiracy and cover-up that would've had to involve at least a thousand people at various levels of power and that must have been on an unimaginable scale could be kept quite and carried out so successfully? the bush administration has proven itself incompetent and incapable in it's 8 years of power (and let's face it, the fbi and cia weren't exactly glowing examples during that period either). and yet some believe that it would be capable (along with its neo-con, "new american century" cronies...another pool of bright sparks) of pulling off something so devious, so complex and horrifying, on such a massive scale with so much precision. some people have an awful lot of faith in the absurd...
This is by far the most ridiculous video I've ever seen. The only thing debunked is your faculty for reason.
Please explain the molten steel from fires still burning in a basement weeks after the buildings came down. Please explain the sulfur residue. Please explain the sheared columns and how all of them were cut (by thermate) at the same angle.
Anyone with half a brain should come to the conclusion that the official story is a crock of shit. It doesn't make any sense when you apply the laws of physics. Buildings that suffer explosion and impact damage do not fall perfectly into their footprints; the WTCs did. Stacking floors don't create explosions, nor do small localized fires, and they never stack as fast as free-falling will. Physics makes that impossible with two novel concepts called resistance and deceleration.
This government has proven itself corrupt beyond imagination: Political firing scandals, billions in missing and misappropriated reconstruction money for Katrina and Iraq, warrentless domestic spying programs, commutation of Libby, violations of the Geneva convention through torture, the erosion of civil liberties, and heavy political and economic influence by our military/defense-industrial complex.
If you really think this administration gives a fuck about the welfare of the American people you should think again. I believe that the victims of 9-11 were pawns in a plan to bring about sweeping changes in our foreign policy, especially as the Middle East is concerned. It also had the effect of scaring a panicked America into accepting rollbacks on their fundamental rights. This administration is obsessed with imperial objectives, thinking we can bomb, politically divide and economically rape anyone who challenges its plans for US hegemony.
Extremists in other countries don't hate us for our freedoms, they hate us for our sustained campaigns of bombing and sanctions in their countries, our unconditional support for Israel, and the arrogant notion we're "saving" them by shoving democracy down their throats. The war on terror is a fraud concurrently used to scare a timid American populace while criminalizing those that are courageous enough to challenge the lies and deceptions this administration has come to rely upon. To support this lawless bunch of criminals, profiteers and mass murderers is nothing short of disgusting.
Charsa says, "Please explain the molten steel from fires still burning in a basement weeks after the buildings came down. Please explain the sulfur residue. Please explain the sheared columns and how all of them were cut (by thermate) at the same angle."
I say; did u even watch the freakin video??? This is all explained in the video. How can u leave a comment without watching the video? Oh, right. Because your a wacky conspiracy theorist that doesnt like anything thats called "official." Grow up and get some critical thinking skills.
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