Thursday, April 19, 2007

The Best Explanation for No Planes Yet

I got a chuckle out of this thread:

is because if they had used real planes there was always the potential that much of the planes debris may have landed in the street revealing no pasengers on board. Also, using no planes escaped radar and the potentiality of being shot down.

It really is this simple.

Except, as pointed out later:

The only thing wrong with it is they didn't escape radar, so where does that leave you?

Another no-planer jumps in:

I have raised this argument many times. What if either of the "planes" had missed their targets altogether and landed downtown Manhattan? These were supposedly n00b pilots after all. How did they even find their targets mid way from Boston to LA; from 35,000ft without naviational aid? They just looked out the window?

It's called the Hudson River.



At 19 April, 2007 18:37, Blogger pomeroo said...

As I pointed out on the JREF, the fantasists miss the beauty of the Impossibly Vast Conspiracy's conception:

The IVC simulated the effects of planes crashing into buildings by actually crashing planes into buildings.

Such subtlety is beyond praise.

At 19 April, 2007 18:42, Blogger CHF said...

No planers are the best indication of the uetter cluelessness of the twoof movement.

The fact that even have to debate such theories amongst themselves is beyond sad.

At 19 April, 2007 19:57, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

They are using the false premises of one CT (unmanned drones) to validate a second, even more ludacris premise (no planes).

This is absolutely priceless.

It is like the old CT stuff is becoming the new Official story, that the no-planers are now fighting against.



At 19 April, 2007 21:00, Blogger James B. said...

It is called GPS.

At 19 April, 2007 23:15, Blogger Luke said...

On the one hand I like you guys cause you do actually debunk some of the really loony stuff, but at the same time you're dicks for making it seem like more than a few dozen truthers think there weren't planes...

At 20 April, 2007 00:42, Blogger The Girl in Grey said...

Yes, they just looked out of the window. That's what pilots DO at low altitude! Honestly, haven't these people ever spoken to pilots? I'm not a pilot. But I know pilots and have spoken to them, which is where I get that information from.
The biggest problem with a lot of these claims made by deniers of various stripes is that they are made on technical matters by people with no technical knowledge. People who aren't structural engineers make comments on abstruse points of engineering. People who know next to nothing about controlled demolition make comments on technical issues about that. Look, if I lost a loved one in an air crash, I wouldn't accept an explanation from a bloke who'd never even visited the crash site and had no relevant qualifications at all. I'd want a trained air crash investigator! Most 'Truthers' are like the waitress I witnessed in a station tea-room solemnly pointing out to her boyfriend the clue on the front of the morning paper that the police in a major murder investigation had missed.

Even the scholars are guilty of this. The modern academy so specializes and compartmentalizes that a scholar in one realm (say philosophy) has NOT A CLUE about engineering. But both have PhDs.

At 20 April, 2007 08:10, Blogger Ed said...

I wonder how he thinks the real pilots planned on navigating and why those means weren’t also available to the hijackers.

At 20 April, 2007 11:38, Blogger Pat said...

Luke, if you look back you won't see us posting very often on the no-planers. But I do think there are some significant people in that crowd that the rest of the 9-11 Truth Movement embraced at least at first--Judy Wood, Jim Fetzer, Killtown, Nico, Morgan Reynolds, etc.

At 20 April, 2007 14:30, Blogger 911_truthiness said...

Terrorist had bought a Garmin GPS III Pilot device. And credit card records show some were in NY days before the attack.

Those towers are very hard to miss on a nice clear day.

At 20 April, 2007 15:17, Blogger Civilized Worm said...

Is anyone else unable to access the comments sections of recent posts?

At 21 April, 2007 07:59, Blogger Alex said...

You gotta click the "comments" link :)

At 21 April, 2007 11:00, Blogger Cl1mh4224rd said...

Civilized Worm said: "Is anyone else unable to access the comments sections of recent posts?"


At 21 April, 2007 11:02, Blogger Cl1mh4224rd said...

Oh, geez. It helps if I read the very next post...

At 21 April, 2007 17:36, Blogger Civilized Worm said...

Seriously dudes, I can't get in to these trackback comments.

At 22 April, 2007 09:31, Blogger Alex said...

Might be a javascript problem. If you're using firefox with Noscript, try enabling it. Otherwise, I dunno what to tell you...

At 24 April, 2007 17:21, Blogger Cl1mh4224rd said...

Alex said: "Might be a javascript problem. If you're using firefox with Noscript, try enabling it. Otherwise, I dunno what to tell you..."

Argh. This is exactly the problem. You need to allow scripts from to run. Thanks!

At 25 April, 2007 21:50, Blogger Col. Jenny Sparks said...

Someone really should have appologized on time.

I do not endorse the message that follows. I appologize if anyone is offended or frightened. However it is the example of the sort of thing self appointed debunkers feel is an acceptable way to attack 911activists.

>>>Thursday, April 19, 2007
Jenny Sparks. Wouldn't it be Great?

Wouldn't it be great to wake up with the following news....

Jenny Sparks found dead. Each of her nipples had been bitten off. Her left eyeball had been removed with a pair of tweezers. Two fingers on each hand, along with two toes on each foot had been cut off with scissors. She layed sprawled out on the floor. Her arms nailed to the floor, crucifiction style. Carved into her torso were the word "DIE TWOOFERS" over and over again. The official cause of death was drowning. Her lips had been superglued together and a continuous flow of water was seeped into her nostrils.

Wouldn't it be great?........<<<

You can find the original at

Note--to the best of my knowledge not ONE debunk has flagged this blog or complained to Google--the most efficient way to catch the perp, even if it really was me, as they claim.


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