Wednesday, March 24, 2010

Jesse The BSer Ventura: I Called It!

Remember back in December when the Governator had his Conspiracy Theory Show on the 9-11 Fruitcakes? There was a segment where Van Romero painted superthermite on a steel beam and lit it on fire (starts about 40 seconds into this clip):



Note that Romero asks the question, "Does it burn long enough and hot enough so that we have structural failure?" at about 1:50 into the video. Hilariously, Ventura cuts off Romero at that point. As I said at the time:

"And we see that while the unpainted beam did not catch fire, the painted beam did seem to light up. But will it fail structurally?"

Well, no kidding they skip right over that part. Apparently the idea that the steel caught on fire, however briefly, is enough to convince Jesse that this was how they did it. And nobody stops to mention that the claim is that they destroyed columns (vertical) not beams (horizontal), and that we haven't seen the beam actually destroyed in the video by any means. It's another TrutherBurn fiasco!


Well, Dave Thomas, who debated Richard Gage in November obtained the original video of Van Romero, including his conclusion:

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51 Comments:

At 24 March, 2010 14:48, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The Real Troof.

%^)

 
At 24 March, 2010 14:51, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I knew this, the moment I say Ventura's bullshit show, and I could be considered a "truther".

Ventura's drivel was like the truther version of the NGC hit piece. Lots of out of context montage and hit job tactics.

 
At 24 March, 2010 15:14, Anonymous Sherson said...

Apparently Jesse still lives by his old wrestling motto:
"Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat!"

I too suspected that the beam didn't fail, but didn't think we'd ever see proof. I emailed Romero after Ventura's show and never got a reply.

What's the troofer excuse going to be this time? "Yeah, but that was superthermite! What they should have used is super-nano-ultra-mega-xtra-hyper-thermite-ate, a military grade explosi-cendiary which cuts through a steel beam like a hot knife through butter and also hurls it laterally upwards of 500 feet!"

 
At 24 March, 2010 15:57, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The babe at the 37 second mark , simply can not be a troofer .

 
At 24 March, 2010 16:36, Anonymous Patrick from Cincinnati said...

Yeah, I looked her up and she's apparently trying to bust into the U.S. media market. That and her hotness allows me to excuse her.

 
At 24 March, 2010 17:09, Anonymous al c. said...

She's a British tv presenter. As to her breaking into the the US media market, I doubt very much appearing in this shit is going to help her cause any.

Someone should smack the alleged 'doctor' over the head with that hammer, although I suspect it wouldn't matter, as the structural damage to his brain is already far too advanced.

 
At 24 March, 2010 18:01, Blogger angrysoba said...

B...b...but that is dishonest!

 
At 24 March, 2010 18:17, Blogger angrysoba said...

The babe is June Sarpong who was on TV a lot in the UK. Her website has a quote from Eleanor Roosevelt:
"Do one thing everyday that scares you."

Working with Jesse Ventura everyday should cover that.

 
At 24 March, 2010 23:53, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jesse's 9/11 program was pretty good for the first 4 minutes or so. Then the 9/11 con-man Willie Fraudriguez came on and it was pretty much over. Not even Dr. Jones could save it then.

 
At 25 March, 2010 02:49, Anonymous Anonymous said...

coincidence : a striking occurrence of two or more events at one time apparently by random chance.

a funny thing about coincidence is that, as the number of "random chance" events increases the likelihood that the events are in fact random and unrelated decreases exponentially.

how many coincidences does it take?

the SLC pov, who cares?


With regard to the 9/11 attacks, it has been said that the intelligence agencies have to be right 100% of the time and the terrorists only have to get lucky once. This explanation for the devastating attacks of September 11th, simple on its face, is wrong in its value. Because the 9/11 terrorists were not just lucky once: they were lucky over and over again. Allow me to illustrate. - mindy kleinberg.

 
At 25 March, 2010 05:29, Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2007/10/ap_minot_firings_071018/

you guys hear about this?

was the termination of 5 officers really needed? it's not like 3000 people died because of the mistake, kind of harsh on the guys, don't you think?

 
At 25 March, 2010 07:48, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Because the 9/11 terrorists were not just lucky once: they were lucky over and over again..

not really: 12 intelligence services knew that something was about to happen.
So it isn't as if the terrorists could do whatever they want because they were so lucky over and over again that no intelligence service noticed anything.

 
At 25 March, 2010 07:50, Anonymous Anonymous said...

kind of harsh on the guys, don't you think?.

nuclear safety doesn't mean anything to you?

 
At 25 March, 2010 10:41, Anonymous jw said...

anonymous says "coincidence : a striking occurrence of two or more events at one time apparently by random chance"

Go back to your online dictionary, loser. The war is over. The bums lost. Nobody cares.

 
At 25 March, 2010 11:20, Anonymous Anonymous said...

jw: "Go back to your online dictionary, loser. The war is over. The bums lost. Nobody cares."

Me: Seems to me that intolerance and jealousy of intelligent discourse makes you the real loser!

 
At 25 March, 2010 12:50, Anonymous John E. Smoke said...

June Sarpong was pretty successful here. I can only assume that she must've either taken a knock to the head or woken up one day and thought, 'You know what? I think I'm going to flush my career down the toilet.' That's why she appeared on this silly conspiracy show.

 
At 25 March, 2010 14:39, Anonymous RuneFromOslo said...

Hammer-time

 
At 25 March, 2010 15:59, Anonymous Fucktard Patrol said...

Anonymous said...
jw: "Go back to your online dictionary, loser. The war is over. The bums lost. Nobody cares."

fucktard: Seems to me that intolerance and jealousy of intelligent discourse makes you the real loser!

FUCKTARD PATROL: Seems to me that your pathetic inability to pick a handle makes you the real fucktard!

 
At 25 March, 2010 16:30, Anonymous Matthew said...

June Sarpong is not very bright and has no qualms about what kind of shows she'll work on, for example: the Sky TV Michael Jackson seance (it's just past 4 minutes in to that video).

 
At 25 March, 2010 17:25, Anonymous jw said...

"June Sarpong was pretty successful here." Successful maybe, John E, but you have to admit she's seriously annoying.I couldn't stick watching a show with her presenting it for more than 5 minutes.

 
At 25 March, 2010 18:40, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"June Sarpong is not very bright and has no qualms about what kind of shows she'll work on, for example: the Sky TV Michael Jackson seance "

Michael jackson was assassinated by Dick cheney's death squad, - these bastards are ruthless.

 
At 25 March, 2010 22:33, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Michael jackson was assassinated by Dick cheney's death squad, - these bastards are ruthless."

I think it was the catholic church. He just knew too much.

 
At 26 March, 2010 01:00, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

Pat,

Whatever the story is, it is quite obvious that destroying such beams is not easy even when proper incendiaries/explosives are employed. That makes the idea that many such beams were compromised in a simultaneous systematic fashion by jet fuel and office materials-fueled fire a bit preposterous, in my opinion.

 
At 26 March, 2010 01:48, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Epstein, your argument lead me to think about other possible experiments, which in turn gave me an epiphany. Thank you.

O yeah, and debunktards have ass breath. That's not an epiphany, that's common knowledge.

 
At 26 March, 2010 04:19, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

'The babe is June Sarpong who was on TV a lot in the UK.'

Wondered what happened to her.

 
At 26 March, 2010 06:15, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"That makes the idea that many such beams were compromised in a simultaneous systematic fashion by jet fuel and office materials-fueled fire a bit preposterous, in my opinion."

That'd be becasue you're a moron, bore-ass, a regular retarded marmoset, too stupid too understand, well, anything.

Here's an asignment, bore-ass: explain away Sherman's neckties.

 
At 26 March, 2010 06:35, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lazarus Long said...
"That makes the idea that many such beams were compromised in a simultaneous systematic fashion by jet fuel and office materials-fueled fire a bit preposterous, in my opinion."

That'd be becasue you're a moron, bore-ass, a regular retarded marmoset, too stupid too understand, well, anything.

Here's an asignment, bore-ass: explain away Sherman's neckties.



you make less and less sense with every post.

i acutally feel sorry for your family, in particularly your mom.

the women must have been a saint putting up with your retardese speaking ass

 
At 26 March, 2010 09:01, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"you make less and less sense with every post."

Look, you retaded marmoset, try learning English.

It'd be a big help in understanding reality.

"i acutally feel sorry for your family, in particularly your mom."

My Mom (the correct spelling, btw) is dead.

So FOAD, you moronic fuckhead.

 
At 26 March, 2010 09:48, Anonymous Satan said...

You're mother's in here Lazarus. Would you like to leave a message? I'll see that she gets it.

 
At 26 March, 2010 10:50, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

Cleanup in aisle 9!

Troll droppings in aisle 9!

 
At 27 March, 2010 02:28, Anonymous Anonymous said...

such beams were compromised in a simultaneous systematic fashion by jet fuel and office materials-fueled fire a bit preposterous.

Why?

if enough beams gotten weakened by the fire conditions in the building to get to te point the remaining columns could no longer support the structure above, they would fail within an instance.

furthermore, with wtc2 you can see clearly that the columns on the damaged side started to weaken gradually, making the top of the tower tilt.

 
At 27 March, 2010 12:15, Anonymous Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...

There's blowhards and then there is the Debunker Cult!! Keep sharp objects away from this gang of the usual idiots! Sheesh!

 
At 27 March, 2010 16:14, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

So this is Dr Romero's scientific test - a weak hammer strike? I am impressed beyond measure!

 
At 28 March, 2010 01:42, Anonymous Nobody said...

Lazarus: Can you see Annymous is Fucktard stalker-Brian Good? For your information not even Brian's Father likes him, as a matter of fact he is totally estranged from the family. Call Papa "Good" and find out yourself. I posted the info in other posts but the change from HaloScan erased it. Good thing I have screen-shots. Brian, don't grow up, keep being an immature piece of shit who stalks people. Get a medicine of your own here.

 
At 28 March, 2010 01:44, Anonymous Brian Good is my bitch said...

I have to love this one!

 
At 28 March, 2010 12:52, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nobody, you're clueless. OTOH, nothing more satisfying than to see escalating paranoid antics from "debunkers".

This blog and its loony cult members are hate magnets. Deal with it.

 
At 28 March, 2010 13:07, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"loony cult members"

Lather.

Rinse.

Repeat.

 
At 28 March, 2010 15:44, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are a cult member and you need detox. Being part of the debunker cult is toxic to mind, body and soul.

 
At 29 March, 2010 12:47, Blogger truth hurts said...

the truthers don't have any arguments to counter this decievement of Jesse, so they reside to insults in stead...

 
At 29 March, 2010 16:21, Anonymous Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...

More wimpy whining about "insults" from the increasingly unhinged and ludicrous Debunker Cult.Soon the Southern Poverty Law Center guys'll be all over your sorry asses!! After all,your mascot goes around imitating Bull Connor,your main man is a raving far,far right wing lunatic,while the rest of you call people Jew haters.It's like Ron 'n Nancy's "Just Say No" jive assing as they brought thousands of tons of cocaine into the USA.The red flags of psycho-pathology are all there! Beware.

 
At 29 March, 2010 19:32, Anonymous Anonymous said...

truth hurts: your mother should have swallowed you.

 
At 30 March, 2010 01:19, Blogger truth hurts said...

Anonymous: thanks for proving my point.

 
At 30 March, 2010 03:45, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"the debunker cult"

Blather.

Rinse.

Repeat.

 
At 30 March, 2010 04:10, Anonymous Nobody said...

truth hurts said...

Anonymous: thanks for proving my point.

...and mine too Brian Good from Palo Alto!

 
At 30 March, 2010 08:57, Anonymous Anonymous said...

truth hurts: De rien.

If only you were the man your mother is. You wouldn't be whining about insults like a teeny weeny cretinous debunkturd.

 
At 30 March, 2010 08:59, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The debunker cult needs ethic cleansing.

 
At 30 March, 2010 09:56, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"Anonymous said...
The debunker cult needs ethic cleansing."

Oooo, another internet fascist tough guy.

HAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!

Pathetic, just pathetic.

 
At 30 March, 2010 16:41, Blogger truth hurts said...

You wouldn't be whining about insults.

I'm not whining about them.
I'm just noticing a fact: the truther movement is dead, all that is left are anonymous fanatics that can only place insults in stead of bringing up any arguments.

 
At 30 March, 2010 21:30, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"the thruther [sic] movement is dead"

And you've been saying it for years now, while the visitor numbers of this shabby blog keep dropping and those of infowars.com keep rising. Bunkturds are no stranger to delusion, though, so don't mind me bringing it up. Take another hit from the bong, and stay blissfully deluded hippie boy!

 
At 31 March, 2010 00:46, Blogger truth hurts said...

And you've been saying it for years now.

Can you back that up?

Where and when did i say before that the movement is dead?

 
At 01 April, 2010 16:26, Anonymous Arhoolie,Sackdoily's Cyber-Hero said...

The Whining King of the Insane Debunker Cult is:"TRUTH HURTS",by a country mile!! Trying jerking off lefty tonight to soothe your hurt feelings,OK DogBoy!?!

 

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