Friday, June 04, 2010

Spammers for 9/11 Truth

Because if there is anything that New York City lawyers like, it is being repeatedly harassed.

Dear AE911Truth Supporters:

Help NYC CAN show the Manhattan District Attorney just how widespread the desire for a new investigation is. To bring Building 7 fully to the attention of the District Attorney, the goal is to flood the DA’s office with 1,000 letters and faxes per week. The good thing is:

Send just one letter per week in June!

At the beginning of each week, NYC CANwill report how many letters and faxes were sent the previous week! This way we all get to know whether or not we reached our goal. If you are not already signed up at NYCCAN you can sign on now in order to receive these templates each week. It’s free!

This is how it’s going to work:

• At the beginning of each week NYC CAN will send out a template of the letter. Feel free to edit the letter to make it your own, but please be sure to stick to what the letter is saying. The template is available below.

• Copy/paste the letter, edit it as you see fit, and mail or fax it to the District Attorney’s office. We are asking you to mail or fax your letter because the District Attorney’s office asks for complaints to be written.

69 Comments:

At 04 June, 2010 07:34, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Feel free to edit the letter to make it your own"

What a wonderful idea!

 
At 04 June, 2010 07:39, Blogger Billman said...

How many times have they done this, now? How many times has it actually worked?

 
At 04 June, 2010 07:52, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

Um, do they REALLY think it's a good idea to harass the chief law enforcement officer of the Borough of Manhattan"

Really?

 
At 04 June, 2010 08:27, Blogger =^skeptic cat^= said...

When I worked at the newspaper we would get letters and email like that. It wasn't thousands but it was hundreds and they would come in clumps of pretty much identically worded single spaced copy-pasta such as above usually with a short forward such as "I had relatives who died in the attack (odd since NYC is over 500 miles away)" or claiming that the individual had some expertise in architecture or military explosives.

The first time I read one of those I was kind of taken in by it (this was 2005). So I hit the web which is how I found out about the shape-shifting reptoids and the satanic ceremonies. These items were almost always omitted from the spam we received.

 
At 04 June, 2010 08:29, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Feel free to edit the letter to make it your own, but please be sure to stick to what the letter is saying"

Give it that personal touch, to let the DA know what kind of person he is dealing with:

Dear Sir:
Not only is 9/11 an inside job, so was Pearl Harbor, the Hindenberg and the Reichstag fire, which you have also refused to investigate. By the way, that chip you implanted in my brain last week gives me headaches....
Yours truly,
Joe the twoofer.

 
At 04 June, 2010 08:34, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"At the beginning of each week, NYC CANwill report how many letters and faxes were sent the previous week!"

Bet they won't report the number if it turns out to be something like "four."

 
At 04 June, 2010 09:14, Anonymous troyfromwv said...

HAHAHAHAHAHA Showing 100,819 views in less than 48 hours.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VnPdn3PMuU

This is getting ridiculous.

(One man and his kids reaction to the Perfect Game that wasn't.)

 
At 04 June, 2010 09:42, Blogger Triterope said...

Help NYC CAN show the Manhattan District Attorney just how widespread the desire for a new investigation is.

The answer is 26,003.

 
At 04 June, 2010 10:00, Blogger avicenne said...

It's a risky strategy. The interception and deactivation of the red-gray chip samples makes it clear that the Postal Service has been infiltrated.

It's just like All the President's Men, - everyone is involved.

" By the way, that chip you implanted in my brain last week gives me headaches..."

Whatever you do, don't follow Denzel Washington's move from The Manchurian Candidate. I'm no doctor, but trying to remove a microchip from your head using a penknife might be injurious to your health.

 
At 04 June, 2010 11:42, Anonymous Pat Shits on the Victims said...

Meanwhile, Pat is still unable to post a simple percentage from the chart published by the RJ Lee group, where it shows how much of the dust was composed of steel that was previously melted and liquefied in extreme heat. He said it 'could easily' have come from clean-up torches, but fails to say how how many torches it would take to get that percentage of spheres in the dust, nor how 'easy' it would be. Why would a 'critical thinker' hinge so much on speculation, and urge against evaluation of the evidence itself? Pat?

 
At 04 June, 2010 12:18, Anonymous Bob McIlvaine's Dead Son said...

Why don't you care about my memory?

 
At 04 June, 2010 12:22, Anonymous Pat Lies Uncontrollably said...

Nothing like a little evidence-based discussion to make JamesB and Pat Curley shut their fat, lying holes, huh?

By the way, the embarrassing statistic that Pat has been dreading to post is that previously melted, liquefied FE spheres were a full 5.87% of the mean composition of the dust, and the background samples showed a measly .04%. Yet Pat says this disparity is 'easily explained' by the torches, without even attempting to explain how, or backing up his speculative BS in any way.
I'm sure Pat thinks this is a triumph for his prodigious critical thinking skills.

 
At 04 June, 2010 12:24, Anonymous Intermittent Explosive said...

"Fuck America"
-Troy Sexton

"The column failed over 8 floors"

"There was no molten steel"

"Troy's my buddy from West Virginia"

-Patrick Curley

 
At 04 June, 2010 12:41, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"I'm an elbow licking retard"

- Intermittent Explosive

 
At 04 June, 2010 12:43, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"Pat Lies Uncontrollably said...
Nothing like a little evidence-based discussion to make JamesB and Pat Curley shut their fat, lying holes, huh?"

Well, maybe if you, you know, actually posted something based in reality.....

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Nawwww.....

It'll never happen.

 
At 04 June, 2010 12:47, Anonymous Bob McIlvaine said...

Is that you, son? From the afterlife? Your death will be avenged! I promise you this.

With the help of Jon Gold, George Bush and his cronies will be put to trial and convicted. America killed you son. America will not get away with this.

I love and miss you.

Daddy

 
At 04 June, 2010 12:52, Anonymous William Rodriguez said...

I travil to far and away land to inform wurld of inside job. bob we will avinge the deths. i work on manny project.

 
At 04 June, 2010 13:00, Anonymous SLC is all Class said...

Any source for your assertion that there was no molten steel, Pat?

How about the 'easily explained' by torches assertion?

How about that explanation of Sunder's contradiction?

whenever you're ready, silly coward.

 
At 04 June, 2010 13:05, Anonymous William Rodriguez said...

What aboat the exploshuns in the basemints?

 
At 04 June, 2010 13:07, Anonymous Bob McIlvaine's Dead Son said...

Yes it is me Daddy. Avenge my death. I can not pass on to the afterlife. I am stuck in a World of limbo. Help me Daddy. Help me.

 
At 04 June, 2010 13:07, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"I couldn't find my ass if I had a map and a flashlight!"

*SLC is all Class

 
At 04 June, 2010 13:09, Anonymous Bob McIlvaine said...

Go towards the light son. THE LIGHT. RUN TO THE LIGHT

 
At 04 June, 2010 13:10, Anonymous Bob McIlvaine's Dead Son said...

But the light. Its so cold. SO COLD!!!

 
At 04 June, 2010 13:12, Anonymous Aaron Russo said...

Grab my hand Junior.

 
At 04 June, 2010 13:13, Anonymous Bob McIlvaine said...

GRAB HIS HAND SON!!

 
At 04 June, 2010 13:13, Anonymous Bob McIlvaine's Dead Son said...

DADDY! It so DARK. I'm so COLD. I can't find his hand!

 
At 04 June, 2010 13:18, Anonymous Sabrina's ex boyfriend Dan said...

Dude. Those are my balls. FUCK OFF!!

If anyone can hear me be sure to tell Rudkowski his ass is mine when he crosses over. Russian buttlick was fucking my ex.

 
At 04 June, 2010 13:50, Anonymous Because 9/11 IS funny said...

Pat, are you going to retract your 'there was no molten steel' statement, since you've been proven wrong numerous times?

Are you going to tell us how all that iron got into the dust? Do you still think it was the torches, and if so, what is your proposed mechanism for this phenomenon?

Why don't you have James help you?

 
At 04 June, 2010 13:59, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Jizzmop scribbles, "...Pat, are you going to retract your 'there was no molten steel' statement, since you've been proven wrong numerous times?"

No. And why should he retract anything?

After all, I've already proven that the fires were hot enough the produce molten aluminum that flowed orange. The temperature of the debris pile, as recorded by NASA satellites (NASA reports a temperature range of 800 degrees F to 1350 degree F), proves that there was ample heat to melt aluminum (Aluminum melts at between 800 degrees F and 1184 degrees F). The pile, however, was not hot enough to melt steel (steel begins to melt 2750 degrees F)

Source: USGS Thermal Data Analysis of Ground Zero.

Again compulsive liar for 9/11 troof, there was no molten steel at ground zero.

 
At 04 June, 2010 14:24, Anonymous Out-of-tune as ever said...

So what produced the 2750 degrees necessary to melt all the previously-melted & liquefied iron that comprised 5.87% of the dust from the 'wtc event'? How much steel do you think that is, Billman? Do YOU think it was the torches too? If so, why don't you give a demonstration of how it's possible? Don't forget to show your work.

 
At 04 June, 2010 14:35, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

" Out-of-tune as ever said...
So what produced the 2750 degrees necessary to melt all the previously-melted & liquefied iron"

Nothing.

 
At 04 June, 2010 14:36, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"I'm and idiot!"

-Out-of-tune as ever

 
At 04 June, 2010 17:03, Blogger ConsDemo said...

Fidel Castro uses claims from 9/11 twoofer Wayne Madsen as proof of false flag attack on South Korean ship.

The truly amazing details of what happened there have been known through Global Research, thanks to an article by Wayne Madsen, an investigative reporter working in Washington DC, who disseminated information from intelligence sources in the Web site Wayne Madsen Report.

These sources, he said, “…suspect that the attack on the corvette Cheonan of the South Korean Navy for submarine war was a false flag operation intended to make believe the attack was coming from North Korea.


Who is guilty of launching this “false flag” attack, pray tell? Why, none other than “the Empire,” of course. The supposed reason was to topple to government of Japan.

Twoofer dipshits like Roid Rage (now anon) and Bore-ass love to claim they aren’t anti-American (they say they only oppose “criminal elements” within the government that somehow gain the cooperation of thousands to carry out false flag attacks) but they then proceed to blame this country for EVERY ill on the planet and make common cause with every anti-American leader.

 
At 04 June, 2010 17:40, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Anonymous whines, "...So what produced the 2750 degrees necessary to melt all the previously-melted & liquefied iron that comprised 5.87% of the dust from the 'wtc event'? How much steel do you think that is, Billman? Do YOU think it was the torches too? If so, why don't you give a demonstration of how it's possible? Don't forget to show your work."

I've explained this to you as well, jizzmop.

Obviously, you have the retention of an Alzheimer's patient.

The presence of microspheres is easy to explain, and in fact, they were expected to be present at ground zero by the NIST team.

The clean up operation alone had dozens of sources of microspheres: cranes; brake pads; excavators; concrete saws. All of the aforementioned items produce microspheres.

Additionally, microspheres are common and are produced by everyday tools. For example, lawn mowers; two cycle engines; weed eaters; crank shafts and common push rods, to name only a few common sources.

Now, until the question of site contamination is resolved, all your yammering about "iron-rich microspheres" is trash pseudo-science.

 
At 04 June, 2010 17:50, Blogger Billman said...

Why was that directed at me? Is this a carry over from an earlier thread? I've been too busy to keep up with everything this week.

 
At 04 June, 2010 17:59, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look twoofers... this is very simple. The only evidence you have for molten steel is eyewitness accounts, and most of those are anecdotal rather than sworn testimony. The bits that are sworn testimony are not expert opinion but just people relating their impressions of what they think they saw. Even assuming they specifically meant "molten steel" rather than "some kind of molten metal", this evidence amounts to nothing.

Turning to the physical evidence of the existence of molten steel: there isn't any. The RJ Lee report is *not inconsistent* with the presence molten steel but the iron microspheres prove only the existence of extremely high temperatures and nothing else. The concentrations you're obsessed are perhaps noteworthy, but until you can find a better explanation than cutting torches, there's no reason to assume it was nano-thermite.

Finally, you *still* haven't explained what the significance of molten steel would be if it were found. It's not a feature of controlled demolition.

Please understand that 100% of the Truther science to date has been *rejected*. It's not being ignored or suppressed. It has been heard, considered, and *rejected*. The only way you guys are going to turn the tide is to come up with some solid data. Get to work.

 
At 04 June, 2010 18:18, Anonymous DeeniersLies said...

Look twoofers... this is very simple. The only evidence you have for molten steel is eyewitness accounts, and most of those are anecdotal rather than sworn testimony. The bits that are sworn testimony are not expert opinion but just people relating their impressions of what they think they saw. Even assuming they specifically meant "molten steel" rather than "some kind of molten metal", this evidence amounts to nothing.

Evidence of a severe high temperature corrosion attack on the steel, including oxidation and sulfidation with subsequent intergranular melting, was readily visible…The severe corrosion and subsequent erosion of Samples 1 [WTC7] and 2 [Towers] are a very unusual event. No clear explanation for the source of the sulfur has been identified.
--- Jonathan Barnett, Ronald R. Biederman, and R. D. Sisson, Jr., “Limited Metallurgical Examination,” Appendix C of World Trade Center Building Performance Study, FEMA, May 2002 (http://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_apc.pdf)

What part of "intergranular melting" do you deceitful propagandists fir deeenial not understand?

 
At 04 June, 2010 18:22, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is the man who killed 3,000 Americans on 9-11, blew up the World Trade Center, attacked the Pentagon, tried to blow up the White House and the Capitol Building... an evil man…"
--- Richard B. Cheney, May 10, 2009, Face the Nation interview with Bob Schieffer

"For example, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed described the design of planned attacks of buildings inside the U.S. and how operatives were directed to carry them out. That is valuable information for those of us who have the responsibility to protect the American people. He told us the operatives had been instructed to ensure that the explosives went off at a high -- a point that was high enough to prevent people trapped above from escaping."
--- George W. Bush, September 16, 2006, During a speech in which the President argued for the gutting of the Geneva convention and the legal classification of torture, Bush made this strange comment about explosives and their placement in U.S. buildings. Was this a tacit admission of 9/11 controlled demolition? The onset of both towers' collapse began at high points in the buildings. Is Bush implying planted incendiary devices were responsible for their destruction? This quote is from the White House website.

 
At 04 June, 2010 18:31, Blogger avicenne said...

"Was this a tacit admission of 9/11 controlled demolition?"

No.

 
At 04 June, 2010 18:43, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Anonymous dissembles, "...No clear explanation for the source of the sulfur has been identified."

[GuitarBill shakes his head in amazement].

The presence of iron, sulfur, aluminum, potassium, manganese, fluorine and titanium in the WTC dust are all supported by the USGS dust samples.

Now, the first thing any reasonable scientist would investigate, however, is whether or not there are any natural, non-nanothermite related sources for these chemicals.

Steven Jones claims that he's found "uncommon chemical elements in abundance", but this is untrue.

The third most common ingredient in the WTC construction was gypsum-based dry wall, which is ~19% sulfur.

For Steven Jones to claim that these chemicals were uncommon at the WTC, and that the only explanation for their presence is through the detonation of nanothermite, is absurd.

The next thing a reasonable scientist would do is check that these elements are present in their correct quantities.

According to Jones et al, "about a 1,000 lbs. of explosives would be sufficient per tower". Thus, about 3,000 lbs of nanothermite would be necessary to demolish all 3 towers.

Nanothermite is 2% sulfur. This is approximately 60 lbs. of sulfur. Approximately 1 million tons of dust covered lower Manhattan. Thus, based on Jones estimate, a nanothermite reaction would cause the WTC dust to be ~0.000003% sulfur. It's unlikely that such a small sample would be detectable, and certainly would not account for the USGS dust samples showing 5.4% sulfur.

So what is the most likely source of the sulfur?

Answer: Gypsum-based dry wall

 
At 04 June, 2010 20:28, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Evidence of a severe high temperature corrosion attack on the steel, including oxidation and sulfidation with subsequent intergranular melting, was readily visible...

What comes after that? This sentence:

The eutectic temperature for this mixture strongly suggests that the temperatures in this region of the steel beam approached 1,000 °C (1,800 °F), which is substantially lower than would be expected for melting this steel.

They are saying, quite unambiguously, that the steel didn't get hot enough to melt. You might also want to look into what a high temperature corrosion attack means.

Now that I have demonstrated that your source in fact says the opposite of what you want it to say, do you stand by your assertion that molten steel was found? It's OK if you do.

 
At 05 June, 2010 01:18, Blogger 柏勳 said...

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At 05 June, 2010 02:46, Anonymous Dylan Unsavery said...

Anonymous Twoofspammers,

Have R J Lee and/or Jonathan Barnett et al declared their work to be any evidence of an inside jobby job at all?

No, they haven't.

End of story.

 
At 05 June, 2010 05:39, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

This is fune. what a controlled demolition actually looks and sounds like:

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/05/01/animated-panorama-of.html

It makes the twoooofer™ CD cretins look like, well, the cretins they are.

 
At 05 June, 2010 05:40, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

In case the url didn't take:

http://tinyurl.com/2axbtnl

 
At 05 June, 2010 07:49, Anonymous Anonymous said...

At this point arguing with troofers on the facts is exactly like arguing with a crazy homeless guy in the subway. I don't think any of you would engage a person who was carrying an "The End is Near" cardboard sign and ranting about the zombie apocalypse, would you? That's exactly what you're doing when you engage the troofers who are left.

 
At 05 June, 2010 07:55, Anonymous John E. Smoke said...

This is how it’s going to work...

Incredible! The reasons that follow are the exact same reasons it won't work. Just like all the zany schemes these poor deluded nuts dream up.

 
At 05 June, 2010 16:59, Blogger Triterope said...

According to Jones et al, "about a 1,000 lbs. of explosives would be sufficient per tower".

Anybody remember Truth Burn?

The sculpture will be destroyed by about 40 lbs of remotely ignited thermite towards the end of the festival.

Which it wasn't.

If 40 pounds isn't going to take down something made of 10" by 10" hollow metal tubing, I daresay 25 times that amount will not cut through a solid office building that is 200' x 200' per side.

 
At 07 June, 2010 08:36, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

Poor,poor pitiful "GitFiddler".Takes a licking and keeps on spittling! The only thing you've proved is that you're insane in the membrane,pinhead.Those are exploding red paint chips,right Dogboy? The microspheres were innocent creations of the cleanup crews.All the way over at Janette Mackinlay's apartment,right Elmer? Sounds like you've got a bad case of pica.Try a granola bar and some grapefruit juice sometime,barfly.And can someone inform the ConnedDumbo that free speech doesn't equal treason.It's even in the Constitution of the United States of America,jackoff.Matter of fact,it's one of the true strengths of this country.It's only Know-Nothings and Yahoos like the Debunker Cult that is against it.

 
At 07 June, 2010 10:23, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The ArseHooligan whines, "...Those are exploding red paint chips,right Dogboy?"

The troofers have never proven the existence of "exploding red paint chips", jackass.

First idiot, the troofers must submit their nanothermite paper to a REAL peer review. After all, submitting your paper to a group of 9/11 troofers is NOT a peer review. It's a circle jerk.

You see, your problem is simple ArseHooligan: You're unqualified to debate this issue--period.

Thus, you would do well to stick to subjects you understand: Hamburger flipping and yanking your noodle.

 
At 07 June, 2010 16:42, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

The "Git" sure is a literal minded doofus,ain't he? And so accomplished as a musician! ("When's my next wedding gig,Ma").I guess once Bill Kristol and Bill O'Reilly asserted that irony was out after 9/11 they sure recruited a loyal soldier in the insane Fretboy.The red chips that operatives like Mark Roberts and the lugubrious WeakRonald claim are merely red primer chips are exploding.Are you saying that primer paint explodes? God,you sure are out of your skull! Plus,as a bonus,Israel has no nuclear weapons!!!

 
At 07 June, 2010 18:05, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The ArseHooligan dissembles, "...The red chips that operatives like Mark Roberts and the lugubrious WeakRonald claim are merely red primer chips are exploding.Are you saying that primer paint explodes?"

No jackass, red "primer paint" doesn't "explode". Never has; never will.

And who's proven that the red "primer paint" can be classified as an explosive? If you're honestly trying to assert that Jones has proven his bat-shit crazy ideas...well, let's just say that you're as gullible as you are insane.

Finally, I'm still waiting for proof that Israel tested a nuclear device--and speculation, unsubstantiated allegations and opinion are NOT proof.

Now, get to work, hotshot.

 
At 07 June, 2010 18:42, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The ArseHooligan dissembles, "...Plus,as a bonus,Israel has no nuclear weapons!!!"

First, let me state, for the record, that I have never been a member of the armed forces, in any capacity.

That said, given my ignorance of the military, I find it hard to believe that an alleged former member of the US Armed Forces is so gullible that he thinks a military commander will trust the success of his mission to untested ordinance.

So, I'll ask you again, ArseHooligan: Who are the insane Israeli military commanders who are willing to risk the success of their mission on untested nuclear weapons?

After all, you can't prove that Israel performed nuclear arms tests; thus, it's safe to conclude that you have no problem with the idea of deploying untested ordinance.

So tell us, ArseHooligan, during your alleged stay in the US Armed Forces, how many military commanders were willing to trust untested ordinance?

LOL!

And remember, I'm just askin' questions...

 
At 08 June, 2010 08:43, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

Poor "GitFiddler".Hoist on his own petard,and whining the whole way.The whole world is watching,Bozo and you still cannot muster a peep about Barry Jennings and Michael Hess being trapped for 90 minutes by an explosion on the NORTH side of #7 BEFORE EITHER TOWER EXPLODED.Never said I was a veteran.That's the completely addled and played out Perfesser Sackdoily's nutty attempt to finesse the fact that we tore him 29 new assholes here on his home turf.While you careened around imbecilically with your downright wacky "no nukes" rally,the Nutty Professor tries to switch the focus by claiming disingenuously that I posed as a war vet.Sad,really,but so much fun watching you bums reveal yourself for what you are! Yankees baby!!!

 
At 08 June, 2010 10:17, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The ArseHooligan dissembles, "...The whole world is watching,Bozo and you still cannot muster a peep about Barry Jennings and Michael Hess being trapped for 90 minutes by an explosion on the NORTH side of #7 BEFORE EITHER TOWER EXPLODED."?

That's right, cocksucker, when your back's against the wall, CHANGE THE SUBJECT.

Pussy.

Wimp.

Yeah, I can "muster a peep about Barry Jennings", motherfucker.

First, you're lying and misrepresenting Jennings' story. It's a FACT that Jennings DENOUNCED THE 9/11 TROOFERS. Jennings made it clear that the 9/11 troof movement took his statements out of context in service of their hidden agenda.

FACT: Jennings never claimed that bombs were in the building. This claim is a fabrication put forth by YOUR LYING "TRUTH" MOVEMENT.

FACT: Barry Jennings claimed that he heard an explosion, but he never attributed the alleged "explosion" to bombs.

Now, quote mine the late Barry Jennings' words and call me liar, fucknut. I double dare you.

Now, put that in your pipe and smoke it asshole.

The ArseHooligan tries more misdirection and scribbles, "...While you careened around imbecilically with your downright wacky "no nukes" rally"

That's not an answer, fucktard.

So, when will you answer my questions, vermin?

[1] "...So, I'll ask you again, ArseHooligan: Who are the insane Israeli military commanders who are willing to risk the success of their mission on untested nuclear weapons?"

[2] "...So tell us, ArseHooligan, during your alleged stay in the US Armed Forces, how many military commanders were willing to trust untested ordinance?"

And I'm still waiting for evidence--not speculation, unsubstantiated allegations and opinion--of Israel's alleged nuclear testing program.

So, where's your evidence, jerkoff?

Now, stop avoiding my questions and get to work, cretin.

 
At 08 June, 2010 12:33, Blogger GuitarBill said...

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At 08 June, 2010 12:39, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The ArseHooligan dissembles, "...The whole world is watching,Bozo and you still cannot muster a peep about Barry Jennings and Michael Hess being trapped for 90 minutes...[blah, blah, blah]."

Here's the proof that you're misrepresenting Barry Jennings story. From the horse's mouth:

Dylan Avery: "...The amount of detail Barry Jennings gave us is unreal. He says he was stepping over dead bodies in the lobby."

Barry Jennings: "...I didn't like the way--you know--I was portrayed. They portrayed me as seeing dead bodies. I never saw dead bodies."

Dylan Avery: "...I didn't take anything out of context."

Barry Jennings: "...I said it felt like I was stepping over them. I never saw them. And--you know--that's the way they portrayed me, and I didn't appreciate that, so I told them to pull my interview...Do I think that our government would do something like that to its people? No, I honestly don't believe that. All I know is that I was in there. I heard what I heard and I saw what I saw."

Source: Google Videos: BBC's Conspiracy Files: 9/11--The Third Tower. (See 46:50 through 47:58)

Thus, Jennings didn't like the way he was portrayed by Avery, Bermas and Rowe, and demanded that Avery et al "pull my interview". And that's precisely why Jennings' interview did not appear in the final version of Loose Change--Final Cut.

So ArseHooligan, how does it feel to know that your alleged "credibility" can be measured in negative engineering units?

Enjoy your bowl of crow, dingus.

And remember, I'm just askin' questions...

 
At 09 June, 2010 09:17, Anonymous Arhoolie Vanunu said...

"All I know is that I was in there.I heard what I heard and I saw what I saw".Only a complete nutjob could go on a tear and claim that this supports his argument! "Git",you need to hit Yosemite for a week up in the Tuolome Meadow.Alo,try the hiking trail up to Half Dome,past Vernal and Nevada Falls.It's awesome and exhilarating.You see the sun set over the Sierra's and then you see the sun rise over them the next day! Then you can go back to your friend's couch with your laptop and finally start making some sense,because this has gotten to be ridiculous.So how did I misrepresent Jennings AND Hess's story,jackoff?

 
At 09 June, 2010 09:23, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

""So how did I misrepresent Jennings AND Hess's story,jackoff"

You lied, cocksucker.

As GB just proved.

Plus you're insane.

 
At 09 June, 2010 09:26, Blogger GuitarBill said...

You're trying to imply that Jennings was a troofer.

Well, shit-for-brains, I just proved that you're full-of-crap: "...Do I think that our government would do something like that to its people? No, I honestly don't believe that."

So, what part of those two sentences do you fail to understand?

 
At 09 June, 2010 09:32, Anonymous Arhoolie Vanunu said...

How could I have missed this loopy statement by the out-of-control twanger:"And who's proven that the red "primer paint" can be classified as an explosive?" Har har hardee har har Norton!!!!! Dude,you're dumber than a water fountain in Central Park! I'm keeping track,and that one will go into the main hall of the Debunker Cult Museum!!!! "Git",you've been housed and you really need to get over yourself.How sad that your fellow cult members won't speak up and prevent the jalopy from heading over the cliff.Wait,it already did,and they left you lying there moaning and whining.Some pals,hey?!?!

 
At 09 June, 2010 09:39, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

More weak brew from the high security,padded wing of the Debunker Cult.Is there any way we could arrange a tag-team match with PornBoy and the addled "Git"? So,because Jennings wasn't a "truther" he didn't get trapped by an explosion? I get it.And your explanation for that explosion? And don't try PornBoy's:"There was no explosion".That's idiot territory.Who cares if he came out as a "truther".His testimony is what matters and you'll never be able to disappear that! Poor,poor pitiful little boy.

 
At 09 June, 2010 11:47, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Your claims are based on an article that appeared in the Independent. The article was proven to be in error, and was RETRACTED by the Independent.

NIST claims the two men headed down the stairs after 9:59, when the first collapse occurs, and then become trapped around the time the second tower collapses, at 10:28.

Source: NIST: NCSTAR1 Page 109.

Furthermore, Jennings heard a loud noise, but was it an "explosion"? And if it was an explosive, why were the windows on only one side of adjacent buildings blown out? According to demolition experts, if bombs were detonated, windows would have been blown out on all sides of the buildings that were adjacent to the WTC.

Care to explain that pesky phenomenon, ArseHooligan?

Tell us, genius, what happens when a power transformer fails?

And remember, I'm just askin' questions...

 
At 09 June, 2010 12:21, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Tell us, ArseHooligan, when the towers struck building 7 and scooped out 10 stories of the building, is it possible that building 7's power distribution network was damaged?

An electrical surge from the towers feeding back into the electrical substation below building 7 would explain the "explosions" Jennings mentions, dufus.

The electrical substation was composed primarily of power transformers. Now, when power transformers are subjected to an electrical surge THEY EXPLODE.

And that's precisely what Jennings heard that day.

Thus you are filleted by Occam's Razor once again.

 
At 10 June, 2010 11:53, Anonymous Arhoolie Vanunu said...

Bust today,only have a second.So,Supertwit,do you remember that Barry said this explosion happened well BEFORE either tower blew up? Of course you do,you disingenuous crackhead.

 
At 10 June, 2010 13:10, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The ArseHooligan dissembles, "...So,Supertwit,do you remember that Barry said this explosion happened well BEFORE either tower blew up?"

Well, it's good to know that you're still an idiot.

What do you use your gray matter for, ass? To keep keep the wax in your ears separated?

When the towers were struck by the aircraft, the building's power distribution network was severely damaged. The damage caused a power surge that fed back to the power substation, which caused the transformers to explode. All of this happened BEFORE the buildings fell. So obviously Jennings heard "explosions" before the towers collapsed.

Any more idiotic lies for us, cretin?

And remember, I'm just askin' questions....

 
At 11 June, 2010 10:58, Anonymous Arhoolie Vanunu said...

The "Git" makes Edgar Allan Poe look like a romance novel hack.At least he took a stab.Does your ex and the little girls know about you crushing up Adderal tablets in the garage and hammering away at the keyboard all day long?

 
At 11 June, 2010 11:48, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Another 100% fact-free non-response, ArseHooligan?

Now go lick your wounds, ass-munch.

 
At 14 June, 2010 05:38, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

Arseholie's making shit up again? Who'd have thought it. I mean, it's not as if he created a sockpuppet called 'A Real Veteran', claiming to have served in Iraq for 36 months in one stretch.

And it's not as if he made up a bullshit story about living in the UK for three years, and then kept contradicting himself in his claims. And it's not as if he invented an imaginary girlfriend who was training to be a dancer, or as if he claimed that he had a son born in England in 1995 (or was it 1997?).

I mean, he isn't really a Walter Mitty-style fuck up, is he?

 

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