This Will Surely Get Me Booted from the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy
But I love this post by Will Bunch at Media Matters about Rand Paul appearing on Russia Today, or, as I call it, KookTV.
Where is Russia Today getting its wacky ideas about America and 9/11? It could be from a U.S. commentator that it frequently invites on the air to explain what's happening here -- radio's conspiracy-theorist-in-chief, who makes even Glenn Beck look sane, and that would be Austin-based Alex Jones. You can see some of Jones' TV commentaries for Russia Today here and here and here and here and here, promoting his "Obama Deception" documentary that claims that "America has become a puppet in the hands of private bankers working towards a new world order."
Yep, if you appear on Russia Today, you're pretty much an anti-American nutbar. Particularly revealing is the fact that Rand chose that outlet rather than a teeny, tiny American news program called Meet the Press.
You know how it is. I like the article for the way it bashes the Truthers; I am sure that plenty of conservatives will hate it for the way it bashes Rand Paul. But this is a well-deserved bashing. Any candidate that appears on Russia Today needs to understand that they're appearing on KookTV. It's hilariously "Truther-friendly", features nincompoops like Alex Jones, Luke Rudkowski and Max Keiser, and other so-called "Patriots" who appear to think that the best indication of their loyalty to their country is to get on Russian TV and bash it.
Labels: Alex Jones, Rand Paul, Russia Today
posted by Pat @ 11:25 PM
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56 Comments:
Reinforcing the false left-right dichotomy again with McCarthyist jibber-jabber.
Foreign media, in fact, is the only media which will tell the actual truth about the United States because they are not, as Dan Rather put it, afraid of getting "flaming tires" around their neck for "lack of patriotism".
The patriotism police, of course, first decides that the only thing "patriotic" is right wing extremist nuttery of the neocon persuasion, and when the "definition" of "patriotism" has been established, the witch hunt begins.
Now, when will Lazarus Long bail form the vast left-wing climate change conspiracy?
"If what your country is doing seems to you practically and morally wrong, is dissent the highest form of patriotism?"
— The Use of Force in International Affairs, (Philadelphia: Friends Peace Committee, 1961)
wait, is rand paul a truther? does it matter at this point?
since were talking about people who we're not sure are truthers or not, do you guys have an idea of the percentage of oath keepers to truthers?
do you think it's one to one or is the ratio smaller, like one out of three oath keepers being truthers.
I guess the nut doesn't fall far from the tree.
"Anonymous #2 said...
Reinforcing the false left-right dichotomy again with McCarthyist jibber-jabber."
W.
T.
F.
is that supposed to mean, fucktard?
"Foreign media, in fact, is the only media which will tell the actual truth about the United States"
....becasue sooooo many of them hate America, and I do too, so they must be truthful and right and correct.
"because they are not, as Dan Rather put it, afraid of getting "flaming tires" around their neck for "lack of patriotism"."
Dan Rather is a bitter, kooky old man who got causht lying through his stinking teeth about President Bush.
Yet you cite him.
Pathetic.
"Now, when will Lazarus Long bail form the vast left-wing climate change conspiracy?"
Uh-oh, #2 is going crazier than usual, making up insane "conspiracy" charges against AGW scientists.
Dude, you better find a new doctor. Or at least change your meds, cause your current anti-psychotics aren't working.
"Philadelphia: Friends Peace Committee"
AKA Pareasites For Surrender.
Fuck 'em all.
Parasites.....
Remeber preview is your friemd.
"is that supposed to mean, fucktard?"
You're just a petty, dumb little right-wing extremist clown who actually believes AGW is a "conspiracy" and chastises Dan Rather for the set-up that destroyed him. They're all in on the vast liberal conspiracy, aren't they, you paranoid loon. Why don't you go train for the next Darwin Awards? I think you have it in you to become all-time champion. (P.S. Let me know when you start walking upright. -- You haven't yet =)
Anon #2. LMFAO...
Hey, Troy, two words for ya:
"Supervised Probation"
Enjoy it buddy!
And yet, Will Bunch reported on the black boxes that were found at the WTC, as well as numerous problems with the official account concerning Flight 93.
"chastises Dan Rather for the set-up that destroyed him."
HAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!
OMFG, you are too retarded to be able to breathe on your own.
A flatworm could outthink you.
Dan Rather was a sleazebag phony reactionary leftist who put his own cock in the wringer, you fucking idiot.
Another conspiracy theory from a pitiful conspiritard.
Geesh, is there ANY stupidity you won't buy into, knobgobbler?
HAHAHHAAAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!!!!
[wipes tears of laughter from eyes]
And you know what?
Even your insults are lame, fucktard.
Reinforcing the false left-right dichotomy again with McCarthyist jibber-jabber.
Wow. Who cares? It is kind of cute how Truthers love regurgitating the pseudointellectual jibber jabber of the Alex Jones and David Icke types of the world.
"It is kind of cute how Truthers love regurgitating the pseudointellectual jibber jabber of the Alex Jones and David Icke types of the world."
Without being able to recognize the difference between the Right, which believes in freedom, and the reactioanry left, which beleives in totalitarian Big Government.
Like I said, all the intellectual prowess of a flatworm.
And yet, Will Bunch reported on the black boxes that were found at the WTC, as well as numerous problems with the official account concerning Flight 93.
I'll also enjoy my life and wealth. Is that OK, looney tunes?
"I'll also enjoy my life and wealth. Is that OK, looney tunes?"
HAHAHAHAH
Dan Rather was a sleazebag phony reactionary leftist who put his own cock in the wringer, you fucking idiot.
Another conspiracy theory from a pitiful conspiritard.
Geesh, is there ANY stupidity you won't buy into, knobgobbler?"
Yet, Bush was a draft dodger, and the documents sent to Rather change nothing about that, little Bush fan boy.
And yet, Will Bunch reported on the black boxes that were found at the WTC, as well as numerous problems with the official account concerning Flight 93.
"Bush was a draft dodger"
No, he wasn't. Another exploded conspiracy theory swallowed whole by our little flatworm.
"the documents sent to Rather change nothing about that"
They were fakes, made up out of the whole cloth, but you're too stoooopid to realize it.
You have all the intellectual ability of Carrottop, knobgobbler.
Oh, and President Bush flew jet fighter planes.
What was YOUR MOS, flatworm?
"Anonymous said...
And yet, Will Bunch reported on the black boxes that were found at the WTC, as well as numerous problems with the official account concerning Flight 93."
There must be an echo reverberating through the flatworms head or something.
I just think it's funny that Will Bunch is credible enough to report on when he's bashing 9/11 Truth, but when he's supplying information to substantiate the need for 9/11 Truth, he's ignored.
" when he's supplying information to substantiate the need for 9/11 Truth"
He doesn't.
Oh, and President Bush flew jet fighter planes.
Not president, but former tenant of the White House. And yes he did, until his coke use stopped him dead cold in that endeavor.
And yeah, he was a draft dodger, you butt scratching baboon.
(And like I said: the documents sent to Rather change *nothing* about that)
"Not president, but former tenant of the White House."
OMFG, ANOTHER conspiracy theory.
Sorry, flatworm, Presidet Bush was the duly elected President of the United States, and all the whining and puling in the world won't change that fact.
Deal.
"Anonymous #2 said...
(And like I said: the documents sent to Rather change *nothing* about that)"
You're either a fool or a liar.
Like I said that Rather crap, was just that, crap, proved to be a forgery,
So take the memo, fold it until it's all corners, and shove it up you ass, flatworm.
Will Bunch "doesnt" supply information to substantiate the need for 9/11 Truth?
2 say they found 9/11 'black boxes'
The questions that "United 93" can't answer
What's that? A figment of my imagination?
"Sorry, flatworm, Presidet Bush was the duly elected President of the United States, and all the whining and puling in the world won't change that fact."
Yeah, the 2000 election was such a success that the Sooooopreme Court had to decide it for the first time in history. That Bush won without the popular vote, for only the 4th time in history, and the Russians that the fraud was so transparent they thought it was hilarious.
So hilarious, they offered to help counting. Yup.
"Yeah, the 2000 election was such a success that the Sooooopreme Court had to decide it for the first time in history."
Only because that cocksucker Al Gore tried to steal the election, flatworm.
"That Bush won without the popular vote, for only the 4th time in history..."
Yeah, the Founding Fathers were geniuses, weren't they, for keeping that incompetent dolt Al Gore away from the levers of power?
I mean just look at how the current incompetent dolt is ruining our country.
"and the Russians that the fraud was so transparent they thought it was hilarious."
Um....what?
Who give a flying fuck what the Russians think about anything? Last time I checked they're still a third world, kleptocrat, fascist thugocracy.
"Only because that cocksucker Al Gore tried to steal the election, flatworm."
You sound exactly like the rapist you probably are. That is; it's the victim's fault.
"Yeah, the Founding Fathers were geniuses, weren't they, for keeping that incompetent dolt Al Gore away from the levers of power?"
Nah. It was a bunch of soulless, honorless, corrupt, reactionary judges that handed the election to Bush. And so they sealed the deal and the coup was complete. Would the world have been a better place with Gore in the White House? I don't know. All politicians are scum, but that doesn't mean election fraud, even in a stupid two-party system, is a-okay.
"I mean just look at how the current incompetent dolt is ruining our country."
So? First of all, it was already ruined, second of all, whatever incompetent, compliant, soulless, ball-less asshole and Wall Street stooge Obama may be, it's irrelevant to the topic at hand: the 2000 election. Your assessment of the quality of a president or presidential candidate is no argument whatsoever. Neither does that argument fly for my own opinion of Bush at the time. Had the American people been stupid enough to elect him, they would have deserved him. But they didn't, and he stole it with help from, among others, his brother Jeb.
"Who give a flying fuck what the Russians think about anything? Last time I checked they're still a third world, kleptocrat, fascist thugocracy."
I don't know exactly what Russia is, but it is sure is a totalitarian hellhole, which is why them laughing at your electoral process is humiliating. The 2000 elections were a disgrace, and not because of Al Gore, but because of George W. Bush, Jeb Bush, Katherine Harris, and the various corrupt judges who allowed it.
And now, they're saying a corporation is a person. So screw you, Laz.
"You sound exactly like the rapist you probably are. That is; it's the victim's fault."
GREAT argument there, flatworm.
Lose the argumet, turn to ad hom's.
Well go fuck yourself, loser,
"Nah. It was a bunch of soulless, honorless, corrupt, reactionary judges that handed the election to Bush."
Darn them for following Florida and US law, darn them to heck!
Loser.
"And so they sealed the deal and the coup was complete."
No, fucktard, they STOPPED Al Gore's coup attempt. And the fact that you don't know that is a real reflection on the depths of your ignorance.
"Would the world have been a better place with Gore in the White House?"
Fuck no, he's a moron. I mean look at him running around the world trying to sell carbon credits.
"that doesn't mean election fraud, even in a stupid two-party system, is a-okay."
Then thank Cthulu he was stopped.
"it's irrelevant to the topic at hand"
It is the topic at hand: Gore's such a moron he couldn't even lead a coup d'etat.
"... he stole it with help from, among others, his brother Jeb."
Back in cloud coo-coo land again.
Dude. Meds. USE them.
"The 2000 elections were a disgrace"
Because Gore lost, he knew he lost, he lied and imported a bunch of corrupt lawyers in an attempted illegal attack on the laws of Florida and the US Constitution.
Sometimes you gotta believe that God watches over America, because he prevented a real disaster from happening.
So in summary, the flatworm uses ad hom attacks, baseless accusations, ill informed opinion and tons of volanic hatred to prove.....nothing.
God job, fucktard, good job.
With the US corporate media, why go anywhere else:
“There was a time in South Africa that people would put flaming tire around people's necks if they dissented. And in some ways the fear is that you will be necklaced here, you will have a flaming tire of lack of patriotism put around your neck. Now it is that fear that keeps journalists from asking the toughest of the tough questions... And again, I am humbled to say, I do not except myself from this criticism. What we are talking about here, whether one wants to recognise it or not, or call it by its proper name or not, is a form of self-censorship”.
--- Dan Rather, 2002
“Anyone who claims the US media didn't censor itself is kidding you. And this isn't just a CNN issue, every journalist who was in any way involved in 9/11 is partly responsible.”
--- Rena Golden, executive vice-president and general manager of CNN International, August of 2002
“One cannot wage war under present conditions without the support of public opinion, which is tremendously molded by the press and other forms of propaganda.”
--- Douglas MacArthur
“Without censorship, things can get terribly confused in the public mind.”
--- General William Westmoreland, Commander of US forces in Vietnam
“The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.”
--- William Colby, former Director of the CIA
“We live in a dirty and dangerous world. There are some things the general public does not need to know and shouldn't. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets, and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows.”
--- Katharine Graham (now deceased owner of the Washington Post) at a 1988 speech at CIA headquarters
“If you've retired, you don't have anything to worry about. The third time I've said that. I'll probably say it three more times, see, in my line of work you gotta keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kinda catapult the propaganda.”
--- George W. Bush, May 24, 2005
“Propaganda is not meant to fool the intelligencia, it is merely meant to provide them an excuse to avoid seeing ugly realities, they’d sooner not believe.”
--- Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels, Nuremburg War Crimes Trials
Even better was when Fidel Castro said before the 2000 American Presidential election:"I think we should send a team up there to monitor this upcoming vote"! And get a load of the ridiculous Pornboy whining and moaning about ad hominems! Wonders never cease here at the World headquarters of the Debunker Cult!! You couldn't make up shit that stupid.Oops,wait,the dopey fuck actually proffered another insane conspiracy theory when he claims that Gore tried to stage a coup!!! Only here at Nutcase central!
Hey, if you think tarring Will Bunch with being a truther because of his 2004 musings on the black boxes will help Rand Paul, feel free to point it out to the Paultards.
“Principle is okay up to a certain point, but principle doesn't do any good if you lose.”
--- Dick Cheney, White House chief of staff, campaign advice to associates, 1976
“It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who COUNT the votes decide everything.”
--- Joseph Stalin
LazarusLongSchmuckIdiotRightWingExtremist writes:
Without being able to recognize the difference between the Right, which believes in freedom, and the reactioanry left, which beleives in totalitarian Big Government.
From Wikipedia: Definition of Nazism: "...in practice, Nazism was a far right form of politics."
Hitler said he believed in freedom too:
“There is a road to freedom. Its milestones are Obedience, Endeavor, Honesty, Order, Cleanliness, Sobriety, Truthfulness, Sacrifice, and love of the Fatherland.”
--- Adolf Hitler
“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, pull back the curtains, and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”
-- Frank Zappa
“Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.”
--- George Orwell
Freedom loving right wingers
Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it.
--- Rudy Giuliani
“There ought to be limits to freedom.”
--- George W. Bush, May 21, 1999 in reference to the parody site gwbush.com
“If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.”
--- George W. Bush, December 19, 2000 - shortly after his contentious victory in the Supreme Court that resulted in his becoming president
“A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it.”
--- George W. Bush, July 26, 2001
“It's not a dictatorship in Washington, but I tried to make it one in that instance.”
--- George W. Bush, January 15, 2004 chilling way to describe his executive order making faith-based groups eligible for federal subsidies, New Orleans, Louisiana
I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy. But that will change.
--- Dan Quayle
“fas-cism (fbsh'iz'em) n. A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism.”
--- The American Heritage Dictionary (Houghton Mifflin Company, 1983)
More of the right wing's greatest hits:
“Confronted with the choice, the American people would choose the policeman's truncheon over the anarchist's bomb.”
--- Spiro T. Agnew
“When the president does it, that means that it is not illegal... If the president, for example approves something, approves an action because of national security, or, in this case, because of a threat to internal peace and order, of significant order, then the president's decision in this instance is one that enables those who carry it out to carry it out without violating the law.”
--- Richard M. Nixon
“I don’t give a shit what happens, I want you to stonewall it.”
--- Richard Nixon
“Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”
--- Henry Kissinger
It's not a matter of what is true that counts but a matter of what is perceived to be true.
--- Henry Kissinger
No stages. This is total war. We are fighting a variety of enemies. There are lots of them out there. All this talk about first we are going to do Afghanistan, then we will do Iraq.... [T]his is entirely the wrong way to go about it. If we just let our vision of the world go forth, and....just wage a total war...our children will sing great songs about us years from now.
--- Richard Perle
The area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
--- Donald Rumsfeld, March 30, 2003, 11 days into the war, in anwer to a question during an ABC News interview.
"From Wikipedia: Definition of Nazism: "...in practice, Nazism was a far right form of politics.""
Way to quote an unimpeachable source, you fucking monon.
HAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!
"“Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.”
--- George Orwell"
And of course you miss the point that Orwell was talking about reactionary leftists.
But you're a boob, so of course you don't.
"“Confronted with the choice, the American people would choose the policeman's truncheon over the anarchist's bomb.”
--- Spiro T. Agnew"
Resigned in disgrace.
"“When the president does it, that means that it is not illegal... If the president, for example approves something, approves an action because of national security, or, in this case, because of a threat to internal peace and order, of significant order, then the president's decision in this instance is one that enables those who carry it out to carry it out without violating the law.”
--- Richard M. Nixon"
Resigned in disgrace.
Now, you wanna try to come up with some real quotes, not the made up shit you're pulling out of your ass?
Nah. It was a bunch of soulless, honorless, corrupt, reactionary judges that handed the election to Bush. And so they sealed the deal and the coup was complete....it was already ruined, second of all, whatever incompetent, compliant, soulless, ball-less asshole and Wall Street stooge Obama may be..
You morons claim you are patriotic but hate everything about America. Not that I'd every expect intellectual coherence from a twoofer!
Resigned in disgrace.
Both Republivillans
Republicans stand for raw, unbridled evil and greed and ignorance smothered in balloons and ribbons.
--- Frank Zappa
Lazarus Long said...
"It is kind of cute how Truthers love regurgitating the pseudointellectual jibber jabber of the Alex Jones and David Icke types of the world."
Without being able to recognize the difference between the Right, which believes in freedom, and the reactioanry left, which beleives in totalitarian Big Government.
Like I said, all the intellectual prowess of a flatworm.
LMAO
"Anonymous said...
Resigned in disgrace.
Both Republivillans"
Which was the point, you illiterate chimp.
"Would you people please stop spamming SLC with these fucking endless lists of quotations." -- Triterope
"The carefully selected words of other men are not a substitute for debate." -- Triterope
"The excessive use of pithy quotes is indicative of a dull mind, incapable of creating any thoughts of its own. -- Triterope
"Seriously, this shit is lame." -- Triterope
What's Pornboy's take on the recent revelation (old news for some of us,actually) that the racist lunatic Nixon had his own personal "Jew sweeper" to clean Jews out of his administration? Cannot wait for the insane gyration necessary to finesse that stuff!! The floor's yours,jackoff.
'What's Pornboy's take on the recent revelation (old news for some of us,actually) that the racist lunatic Nixon had his own personal "Jew sweeper" to clean Jews out of his administration?'
What's his take on your efforts to concoct a fantasy existence in the UK, complete with a non-existent girlfriend and a non-existent son? Oh, and flights to Amsterdam which (in the mid-1990s, mind you) apparently cost less than £30 quid?
Walt, you're a complete and utter loser. You couldn't even pull a mail-order bride.
The usual non-response from the addled wing of the Debunker Cult.
You think the Moldy Biscuit will ever 'fess up once he finds out that EasyJet had a limited amount (on each flight to Amsterdam) of 29 pound return tickets to Amsterdam in 1997? Of course not.The guy's brain is rotten,his liver is shot and he's the most spineless jellyfish on the blogosphere.He's the guy who claimed that the dust samples were "fabricated" and then skedaddled back when challenged.And he still can't manage a pipsqueak on the explosion that trapped Jennings and Hess on the NORTH side of #7.Dead in the water,it's a British thing.
The ArseHooligan scribbles, "...What's Pornboy's take on the recent revelation (old news for some of us,actually) that the racist lunatic Nixon had his own personal 'Jew sweeper' to clean Jews out of his administration?"
Nixon's anti-Semitism is old news. Yawn.
And given Nixon's well documented anti-Semitism, wouldn't this qualify Nixon as a leader of the 9/11 troof movement? After all, he'd be in good company with the likes of Kevin Barrett, Christopher Bollyn, Eric Hufschmid, Uncle Fetzer, etc.
%^)
And remember, I'm just askin' questions...
Thanks for rephrasing what I put in parentheses about Nixon's Jew hating being old news,jackoff.I guess you just need to type out words to justify your existence.No matter how much you jabber on,the fact remains:there are Jew haters in every walk of life.Your lame attempt to recreate reality when it comes to questioning the "9/11 Fairy Tale" by Philip Zelikow et al. reveals nothing except that you are a truly insane lightweight.
Notice that the egregious Pornboy was struck dumb by the Nixon comment.Of course the insane FretBoy stepped in with his usual breezy big zero.You know they are dead in the water when all they do is try to pin anti Semitism on us.
The ArseHooligan dissembles, "...Your lame attempt to recreate reality when it comes to questioning the "9/11 Fairy Tale" by Philip Zelikow et al. reveals nothing except that you are a truly insane lightweight."
Really? No kidding?
Then perhaps you can explain why I just proved that you're a liar, ArseHooligan?
Did you really think you could get away with lying about the late Barry Jennings?
You're lower than a snakes belly, ArseHooligan. After all, only a rotten scumbag would lie about a man who's dead. Moreover, a dead man can't defend himself--you slime bag.
Source: SLC: Here's the proof that you're misrepresenting Barry Jennings story.
'You think the Moldy Biscuit will ever 'fess up once he finds out that EasyJet had a limited amount (on each flight to Amsterdam) of 29 pound return tickets to Amsterdam in 1997?'
The fuck they did, Walt. And they sure as hell weren't flying direct from Liverpool to Schipol like you claimed. That's just another fantasy creation alongside 'A Real Veteran', the son born in Southport (in 1995, according to your original BS), and your bird at the Laban institute.
'He's the guy who claimed that the dust samples were "fabricated" and then skedaddled back when challenged.'
I challenged you before to quote me on this. You failed to do so, Walt, because yet again you either had a psychotic episode and made this shit up, or you're lying again.
'And he still can't manage a pipsqueak on the explosion that trapped Jennings and Hess on the NORTH side of #7.'
As I've said time and time again, Walt. It's up to you to prove that it's scientifically possible to have a CD in which the building collapses hours - rather than seconds - after the charges go off. But of course, you'll try and wriggle out of this one as well.
I'll leave you to your fantasies, Walt. Maybe in your dreams you actually had a life that counted for something.
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