Thursday, July 01, 2010

Al Qaeda Online

It will be interesting to see the Troofers' reaction to this:

Al-Qaeda has opened a new front in war on the West, launching its own English-language internet newspaper, which features articles such as "Make a Bomb in the Kitchen of Your Mom".


Talk about hitting your target market; one can imagine lots of Troofer jihadi getting grounded when they blow up Mom's kitchen.

101 Comments:

At 01 July, 2010 10:40, Anonymous Bikerman said...

"one can imagine lots of Troofer jihadi getting grounded when they blow up Mom's kitchen"

I LOLed. :)

 
At 01 July, 2010 10:43, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...We survive through jihad and perish without it." -- George Abu Anwar Orwelaki

Yup, war is peace; freedom is slavery; and ignorance is strength.

Makes sense to me.

%^)

 
At 01 July, 2010 13:21, Anonymous Pat the Paunchy Pussy said...

Fact: Pat and GB think that crews and torches put between 10,000 and 58,000 TONS of melted iron in the dust, a claim they refuse to prove or even describe a possible mechanism for. Why is that?

 
At 01 July, 2010 13:27, Anonymous Arhoolie Vanunu on Hammond B-3 said...

On top of which,the insane Yuppie on long distance,public saxophone insists that the iron rich microspheres found in World Trade dust samples found hundreds of yards from Ground Zero were created by.....yes,workers on the pile at Ground Zero.The guy is plain nuts and thinks you can bullshit up a sophist storm and make inconvenient facts blow up and disappear.Goofy fuck,ain't he?

 
At 01 July, 2010 13:46, Blogger Billman said...

Oh my god, Arhoolie, you're SO RIGHT! I never saw it that way before! It took you being a disengenuous arrogant schmuck who displays terrible logic and reading comprehension to bring troofy troof to us sheeple.

And GB, how DARE you reiterate what the troofers themselves claim!! ONLY They can claim things when it makes them (think they) look good! And if it makes them look BAD then they DIDN'T CLAIM it, and no amount of physical evidence showing them their own posts and audio of their own words can refute it!

Seriously, I cannot understand why the media isn't taking these good truthful honest crusaders of awesome more seriously.

 
At 01 July, 2010 13:53, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...Fact: Pat and GB think that crews and torches put between 10,000 and 58,000 TONS of melted iron in the dust, a claim they refuse to prove or even describe a possible mechanism for. Why is that?"

Trolling again, scumbag?

I'm waiting patiently for you to explain how 3,000 lbs. of "nanothermite" produces 10,000 tons of iron-rich sphere. Care to enlighten us, cretin?

And don't forget to violate the laws of thermodynamics, Einstein.

And remember, nincompoop, I'm just askin' questions.

 
At 01 July, 2010 14:03, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The ArseHooligan dissembles, "...Arhoolie Vanunu on Hammond B-3."

When will you learn, ArseHooligan, that you can't fuck a Hammond organ?

Now, stop molesting that innocent percussion instrument, or I'll be forced to report you to the authorities--you acephalic sex offender for 9/11 troof.

And remember, I'm just askin' questions.

 
At 01 July, 2010 14:09, Anonymous Out of Tune Again said...

I'm waiting patiently for you to explain how 3,000 lbs. of "nanothermite" produces 10,000 tons of iron-rich sphere. Care to enlighten us, cretin?

I never made that claim. YOU claimed the iron was put there by torches, and now you're cowering and bleeding from your gaping anus again. It's almost funny.

 
At 01 July, 2010 14:19, Anonymous Pat Fists the Physics said...

Doesn't it seem strange that the 'best' of the 'skeptic' community is reduced to gibbering idiocy when it comes to building 7?

"It in no way resembled a controlled demolition" -R. Mackey

"8 stories of columns failed nearly simulteanously (SIC)... This turns the columns into what can fairly accurately be called "wet spaghetti noodles"." -Newton's Bit

"The column failed over 8 floors"
Pat Curley.

These are the best explanations for resistance-free, gravitational acceleration of a building with 82 total columns? Truly pathetic, especially when tin-eared rejects like GB lap it up like so much elephant semen.

 
At 01 July, 2010 14:28, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Asshole dissembles, "...I never made that claim."

Can you read, jackass?

I previously explained in great detail that Steven Jones made the claim that 3,000 lbs. of "nanothermite" was necessary to bring all three towers down (that's 1,000 lbs. per tower).

Are you throwing your man, Steven Jones, under the bus, cretin?

Now, I'm waiting patiently for you to explain how 3,000 lbs. of "nanothermite" produces 10,000 tons of iron-rich sphere.

Now, get to work, illiterate, and don't forget to violate the laws of thermodynamics, jackass.

And remember, dissembler for 9/11 troof, I'm just askin' questions...

 
At 01 July, 2010 14:31, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...These are the best explanations for resistance-free, gravitational acceleration of a building with 82 total columns?"

It not our fault that you're a moron.

Do you expect us to spoon feed you and wipe your ass, too?

Don't you have quotes to take out of context, dissembler for 9/11 troof?

And remember, compulsive liar for 9/11 troof, I'm just askin' questions...

 
At 01 July, 2010 14:57, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Anonymous dissembles, "...a claim they refuse to prove or even describe a possible mechanism for. Why is that?"

Dissembling again, cretin? In fact, I gave you multiple sources for the site contamination.

Try Occam's razor, fucktard.

FACT: You can't prove that the source of the iron-rich sphere is "nanothermite".

FACT: You can't explain how 3,000 lbs. of "nanothermite" produces 10,000 tons of iron-rich sphere.

CONCLUSION: You're full of shit.

Would you care to amuse us with more pseudo-science and leaps of logic?

And remember, dissembler for 9/11 troof, I'm just askin' questions...

 
At 01 July, 2010 16:38, Anonymous Arhoolie on Hammond B-3,Crushing the "Git" said...

The "Git" sure is the World's Champion Jackoff,that's a given.But how on Earth could he say something as ridiculous as:"the microspheres were created by the workers on the pile,many football fields away" and then proceed to blather in the same Macho Man style he enters every fray with (between sets at Starbucks,of course)? Because he's sick in the head and will go down in history as the Debunking Cult Buffoon who made more nutty statements than any other blogger in the world.Keep shootin' Tough Guy,we love it! You make our case for us,and all the time you think you're kicking ass!?!?!?!

 
At 01 July, 2010 17:12, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The ArseHooligan dissembles, "...'the microspheres were created by the workers on the pile,many football fields away'."

Nice straw man argument, dildo.

Ever heard of something called wind, cretin?

(Seeing that you produce cubic meters of wind per hour, there's a chance, but it's slim, at best)

And how about the trucks that moved the debris from ground zero? Do you think they might spew debris all over Manhattan?

Now, crawl back into your bomb shelter, fool. And whatever you do, cretin, stop molesting that poor Hammond organ.

 
At 01 July, 2010 17:13, Blogger Billman said...

Arhoolie, your reading comprehension shows that you're probably legally brain dead. Its the only logical conclusion based on your comments.

In order for the microspheres to be there because of thermite of any kind, then Stephen Jones has to be wrong about how much thermite was used, and therefore his entire paper is bullshit.

If 3,000 lbs (which is the number JONES CLAIMS) of thermite was used, how do you explain that there was 10,000 lbs of microspheres?

Oh! I know! BECAUSE IT CAME FROM A NON THERMITE SOURCE, proving the troof movement is WRONG about it's claim of nano-thermite.

Or, are you gonna say "well, obviously there was more than 10,000 lbs of thermite used" and then you run right back into the old logistical argument, while throwing ALL of Stephen Jones data under the bus.

So which is it, Arhoolie? Is Stephen Jones wrong about how much was used, or is his data bullshit? Because that's the case here, he's wrong about one of those (hint: IT'S BOTH), and either one disproves his paper.

 
At 01 July, 2010 17:21, Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: anybody else ever come across this? It's a look into the cultish tactics that Troofers are apparently now using. It's also a plain admission that the 9/11 Truth Movement fails on the facts.

 
At 01 July, 2010 18:33, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Glad to see the DEEEniers reading the newspapers outside the US were the news is heavily censored.

Here's a story in another British newspaper which is not being reported in the US of A.

Another conspiracy 'theory' which if you read the article and all the articles leading up to it is looking more and more like conspiracy FACT.

Lets see you schmucks try to spin this one away...

Friday, Jul 02 2010
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1291019/Dr-Kelly-slit-wrist-weak.html#
Dr Kelly 'couldn't have slit his wrist as he was too weak'
By Miles Goslett
Last updated at 11:37 AM on 1st July 2010
Dramatic new testimony has heaped pressure on ministers to reopen the investigation into the death of Dr David Kelly.
A female colleague claims that the UN weapons inspector could not have committed suicide as claimed, as he was too weak to cut his own wrist.
Mai Pedersen, a U.S. Air Force officer who served with Dr Kelly's inspection team in Iraq, said a hand and arm injury meant that the 59-year-old even 'had difficulty cutting his own steak'.

 
At 01 July, 2010 18:36, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Trolling again, scumbag?

Stay on topic, or get the fuck out.

Got it, shit-for-brains?

And remember, cretin, I'm just askin' questions...

 
At 01 July, 2010 19:08, Blogger Triterope said...

The "Git" sure is the World's Champion Jackoff,that's a given.But how on Earth could he say something as ridiculous as:"the microspheres were created by the workers on the pile,many football fields away" and then proceed to blather in the same Macho Man style he enters every fray with (between sets at Starbucks,of course)? Because he's sick in the head and will go down in history as the Debunking Cult Buffoon who made more nutty statements than any other blogger in the world.Keep shootin' Tough Guy,we love it! You make our case for us,and all the time you think you're kicking ass!?!?!?!On top of which,the insane Yuppie on long distance,public saxophone insists that the iron rich microspheres found in World Trade dust samples found hundreds of yards from Ground Zero were created by.....yes,workers on the pile at Ground Zero.The guy is plain nuts and thinks you can bullshit up a sophist storm and make inconvenient facts blow up and disappear.Goofy fuck,ain't he? The "Git" sure is the World's Champion Jackoff,that's a given.But how on Earth could he say something as ridiculous as:"the microspheres were created by the workers on the pile,many football fields away" and then proceed to blather in the same Macho Man style he enters every fray with (between sets at Starbucks,of course)? Because he's sick in the head and will go down in history as the Debunking Cult Buffoon who made more nutty statements than any other blogger in the world.Keep shootin' Tough Guy,we love it! You make our case for us,and all the time you think you're kicking ass!?!?!?! That's the Insane Yuppie Defamed FretBoy over in the next room on Broken Record.Whoops,make that Unfunny and Ridiculous Broken Record! Got your ass,buddy,and I'm gonna keep kickin' your butt up and down Main Street every time,you loudmouth Cult moron.And if you ever get up the nerve I'm gonna pulverize you in person right here in NYC.Plus,I'll treat you to a meal and pints of Guinness at the Oyster Bar,and take you to the Blue Note,down in the Village after a Yankee game.How anyone could pass that up is beyond me.You will though,because you're a spineless wackjob.I'm waiting,you piece of shit. Easy on "SackedCarthage in Ashes" there Bilbo! He's on a heavy drinking schedule and hasn't had his carpets cleaned in ages.

Dear Pat and James,

Please consider banning the poster who makes the above comments.

His only aim here is to destroy every thread with this random nonsense.

I grant you that the 9-11 Truth movement does not provide SLC with the great minds of the 21st century. But surely we can demand better than this?

 
At 01 July, 2010 19:09, Blogger Triterope said...

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At 01 July, 2010 19:31, Anonymous Marc said...

Mai Pedersen, a U.S. Air Force officer who served with Dr Kelly's inspection team in Iraq, said a hand and arm injury meant that the 59-year-old even 'had difficulty cutting his own steak'.


...dumbfuck should have used a sharper knife, like the razor he used to cut his wrists.

Seriously, a limp-wristed blue blood like him would have had all kinds of bruises on him from being restrained while the bad guys cut his wrists.

This idiot was on the same UN inspection teams that kept reporting that because the Iraqi Government was not cooperating with them so they assumed that Saddam was hiding some quantities of chemical weapons. They assumed he was hiding it because the Iraqis listed x amount of WMDs that they later refused to account for.

http://www.un.org/Depts/unscom/Chronology/chronologyframe.htm

http://www.un.org/Depts/unscom/Keyresolutions/sres98-1194.htm

http://www.un.org/Depts/unscom/Chronology/chronologyframe.htm

Because of UNSCOM, we never knew exactly what Iraq did or did not have. This lead to the universally accepted belief that Iraq still had WMDs in 2003.

This dipsihit killed himself because he and his team fucked up, or half-assed it which lead to the Iraq War.

He should have killed himself.

 
At 01 July, 2010 19:46, Anonymous Anonymous said...

why don't they just take the site down?

 
At 01 July, 2010 20:05, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stay on topic, or get the fuck out.

FUCK YOU AND YOUR TOPIC ASSHOLE

I ain't goin' nowhere!

What you gonna do about it shit face?

 
At 01 July, 2010 20:15, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Because of UNSCOM, we never knew exactly what Iraq did or did not have. This lead to the universally accepted belief that Iraq still had WMDs in 2003.

What a fucking pile of shit your peddling!

“He (Saddam) has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors. So in effect, our policies have strengthened the security of the neighbors of Iraq, and these are policies that we are going to keep in place, but we are always willing to review them to make sure that they are being carried out in a way that does not affect the Iraqi people but does affect the Iraqi regime's ambitions and the ability to acquire weapons of mass destruction, and we had a good conversation on this issue.”
--- Colin Powell, February 24, 2001

“We reported consistently that we found no weapons of mass destruction and I carried out inspections at sites given to us by US and British intelligence and not found anything.”
--- Hans Blix

“From a marketing point of view, you don't introduce new products in August”
--- Andrew Card, September 10, 2002

C reported on his recent talks in Washington. There was a perceptible shift in attitude. Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy. The NSC had no patience with the UN route, and no enthusiasm for publishing material on the Iraqi regime’s record. There was little discussion in Washington of the aftermath after military action.
--- Excerpt from the Downing Street Memo, SECRET AND STRICTLY PERSONAL - UK EYES ONLY, To: DAVID MANNING, From: Matthew Rycroft, July 23, 2002. Director of SIS (aka MI6), Sir Richard Dearlove, identified as 'C' in the meeting minutes, heads the UK's foreign intelligence service

. [T]here was no intelligence evidence of significant holdings of CW [chemical warfare], BW [biological warfare] or nuclear material…There was, moreover, no intelligence or assessment during my time in the job that Iraq had any intention to launch an attack against its neighbours or the UK or the US.
What had changed was the Government's determination to present available evidence in a different light."
--- Carne Ross, Britain's key negotiator at the UN, who helped negotiate several UN security resolutions on Iraq, Testimony to the Butler inquiry which investigated intelligence blunders in the run-up to the conflict. December 15, 2006

The policy was set. The war in Iraq was coming. And they were looking for intelligence to fit into the policy, to justify the policy. It just sticks in my craw every time I hear them say it’s an intelligence failure. This was a policy failure. The idea of going after Iraq was U.S. policy. It was going to happen one way or the other.
--- Tyler Drumheller , former CIA official who oversaw intelligence operations for the CIA in Europe, a 26-year veteran of the agency.

 
At 01 July, 2010 20:22, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What I saw was a cabal between the vice president of the United States, Richard Cheney, and the secretary of defense, Donald Rumsfeld, on critical issues that made decisions that the bureaucracy did not know were being made.
---Larry Wilkerson, Former secretary of state Colin Powell's ex-chief of staff

It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
--- Donald Rumsfeld, March 30, 2003, 11 days into the war, in answer to a question during an ABC News interview.

 
At 01 July, 2010 20:28, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There’s no doubt Iraq hasn’t fully complied with its disarmament obligations as set forth by the Security Council in its resolution. But on the other hand, since 1998 Iraq has been fundamentally disarmed: 90-95% of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction capacity has been verifiably eliminated... We have to remember that this missing 5-10% doesn’t necessarily constitute a threat... It constitutes bits and pieces of a weapons program which in its totality doesn’t amount to much, but which is still prohibited... We can’t give Iraq a clean bill of health, therefore we can’t close the book on their weapons of mass destruction. But simultaneously, we can’t reasonably talk about Iraqi non-compliance as representing a de-facto retention of a prohibited capacity worthy of war.
---Scott Ritter 2002

 
At 01 July, 2010 20:34, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How do you lying dishonest scumbags reconcile the following two polarized statements by Colin Powell other than the orchestrated lie that it obviously was?

“He (Saddam) has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors. So in effect, our policies have strengthened the security of the neighbors of Iraq, and these are policies that we are going to keep in place, but we are always willing to review them to make sure that they are being carried out in a way that does not affect the Iraqi people but does affect the Iraqi regime's ambitions and the ability to acquire weapons of mass destruction, and we had a good conversation on this issue.”
--- Colin Powell, February 24, 2001

“The gravity of this moment is matched by the gravity of the threat that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction pose to the world. … We have firsthand descriptions of biological weapons factories on wheels and rails”
--- Secretary of State Colin Powell, U.N. Security Council, February 5, 2003

 
At 01 July, 2010 20:38, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Trolling again, cretin?

I think I hear your mom calling you to come home, Anonymous. (It's time to study your quote mining tutorial)

And remember, shit nozzle, I'm just askin' questions...

 
At 01 July, 2010 20:46, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Wikipedia defines internet troll as follows, "...In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion."

Source: Wikipedia: Internet troll.

Source: Indiana University: What is a troll?

So, what's your excuse, jizzmop?

And remember, troll, I'm just askin' questions...

 
At 02 July, 2010 00:35, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Triterope wrote, "...Please consider banning the poster who makes the above comments."

I'll second that motion.

 
At 02 July, 2010 03:09, Anonymous chakka said...

have you guys debunked the stolen nukes? in 2007 it was reported that 5 or six nukes had accidently been loaded on a bomber and flown across the country. at the time it happened it was reported that procedure was ignored and this kind of mistake was unimaginable and serverl officers were disciplined.
the item of interest and in need of debunking is the idea that 5 people who worked that flight crew as loaders or pilots all died with in a two week period before the "lose nukes incident"
any truth to this? or if there is any truth to it, would it just another coincidence, in this case 6 coincidence and counting?

 
At 02 July, 2010 05:21, Anonymous chakka said...

try googling MINOT AFB MYSTERY

 
At 02 July, 2010 07:06, Blogger Billman said...

chakka, first off, what does that have to do with 9/11, or the current topic? Are you just changing the subject so you can get a "gotcha! Ha ha! You're wrong!" Moment? Cause noone cares...

Second, it was 6 cruise missiles armed with warheads, not 5, and they weren't "stolen" nor did they turn up "missing." They were loaded onto a bomber without knowledge by the crew, and so were left unsecured for 36 hours when they landed. Changes in procedures have resulted from this incident. As for the nukes, nothing happened to them. They just sat there without a guard for 36 hours, on an air force base, and were "recovered" later.

So.. get your facts straight, or stop your lies, troofer.

 
At 02 July, 2010 07:14, Blogger Billman said...

And nobody died. 4 USAF commanders were relieved, and plenty of people were reprimanded. A general retired, and a Colonel took his place. But that's about it. Nobody "was murdered by the NWO coincidentally #6."

Fuck. Do you people ONLY get information from Troofer sites? Epic fail, chakka.

 
At 02 July, 2010 10:04, Anonymous ImPATent as Always said...

"Ever heard of something called wind, cretin?" -GiTarballs

So now it's torches and wind, huh GB? Which direction were the prevailing winds that day, and how many torches did you decide it would require to put between 10,000 and 58,000 TONS OF MELTED IRON in the dust? Pistol Pat would help you, but he just fires blanks. You made the claim, now support it! Go!

 
At 02 July, 2010 10:16, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...So now it's torches and wind, huh GB?"

Still working on that reading comprehension thing, illiterate for 9/11 troof?

If you can't read, it's not my problem, and I'm not obliged to school a disingenuous cretin.

Don't you have quotes to take out of context, shit nozzle?

And remember, I'm just askin' questions...

 
At 02 July, 2010 11:10, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."

-Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23, 2003

 
At 02 July, 2010 11:11, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."

- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

 
At 02 July, 2010 11:12, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."

- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

 
At 02 July, 2010 11:12, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."

- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

 
At 02 July, 2010 11:13, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."

- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998

 
At 02 July, 2010 11:13, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

 
At 02 July, 2010 11:14, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton.

- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998

 
At 02 July, 2010 11:19, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"---Scott Ritter 2002"

Scott Ritter?

Scott fucking Ritter?

Are you fucking kidding me?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAA@!!!!@!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!

WOOOOOHAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!1


Stop it, you insane freak, you're killing me here.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!

[stops and wipes tears of laughter from eyes]

HHHHHAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!11!!eleventy!!!2@@!!!1!!

 
At 02 July, 2010 11:45, Anonymous Marc said...

I love how all of the quotes that shithead posts had nothing to do with the UNSCOM links I included. Had Analmouth bother to read any of them he would have seen that UNSCOM kept couching their reports by saying that while they didn't find any WMDs they couldn't rule them out because of Iraqi interference.

So yeah, UNSCOM had a huge part in the decision to finish the war in Iraq.

Also, Scott Ritter took $100,000 from the Iraqi Government to do PR for them in the American media.

In short, Ritter was an inside jobby job.

 
At 02 July, 2010 12:01, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."

- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

 
At 02 July, 2010 12:02, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."

- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

 
At 02 July, 2010 12:02, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."

- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

 
At 02 July, 2010 12:03, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."

- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

 
At 02 July, 2010 12:26, Blogger Pat said...

Scott "delmar4fun" Ritter? The guy who whacks off for the delectation of 15-year-old girls?

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/01/15/un.inspector.ritter.arrest/index.html

 
At 02 July, 2010 13:08, Anonymous GuitarBalls said...

hey Pat,
Stay on topic, you hideous lying fat fuck. Jesus Harold Christ, you're an ugly, out-of-shape piece of shit in fair-to-poor condition.

Now get back on topic, fatty: how many torches, and how much wind, did it take to put 10,000-58,000 TONS of melted iron in the WTC dust? You said it was eas'. Is that 'easy' like your mother, or easy as in "I have no fucking clue because I'm Pat Curley and I don't need no stinking sources?"
What a shitball.

 
At 02 July, 2010 14:16, Blogger Billman said...

Way to pwn, Lazarus!

Notice Arhoolie changing the subject...

 
At 02 July, 2010 14:19, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Learn to read, jizzmop, and all your questions will be answered.

Now, stop trolling--you recalcitrant child.

 
At 02 July, 2010 15:32, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Anonymous the brainless scribbles, "...how many torches, and how much wind, did it take to put 10,000-58,000 TONS of melted iron in the WTC dust? You said it was eas'. Is that 'easy' like your mother, or easy as in "I have no fucking clue because I'm Pat Curley and I don't need no stinking sources?"

Grab your ankles, Anonymous, because you're about to be reamed.

%^)

Besides the obvious sources of iron-rich sphere, which I've already outlined, there's another super abundant source of iron-rich sphere: The Tower's lightweight concrete.

You see, jizzmop, fly ash is used as aggregate in lightweight concrete. Thus, iron-rich spheres were present in the World Trade Center Towers before the destruction of the buildings. As we all know, concrete was pulverized when the Towers collapsed; thus, fly ash, weighing thousands of tons, covered the pile as well as Manhattan.

Here's the proof that fly ash is used to aggregate lightweight concrete:

The US Department of Energy wrote, "...All of the fly ash samples were comprised mainly of amorphous alumino-silicate spheres and a smaller amount of iron-rich spheres."

Source: US Department of Energy, National Energy Technology Laboratory: Fly ash characterization by SEM–EDS.


The Moral of the Story?

Don't fuck with GuitarBill, jizzmop.

Got it?

Now, bow before your master.

Enjoy your bowl of crow, scumbag.

 
At 02 July, 2010 18:11, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Hurry Anonymous, CHANGE THE SUBJECT.

Shot Down In Flames!

 
At 02 July, 2010 18:22, Anonymous Arhoolie (Billmans's Fave) said...

Boy,when Sir Deep-Doo-Doo flails he really flails with the best of them! It's actually pretty entertaining at this point! Oh,by the way,Superpud Billman,that wasn't me before.There's nothing quite like the Debunker Cult taking flying fucks at rolling doughnuts!!

 
At 02 July, 2010 19:15, Blogger Billman said...

Arhoolie, you're the only who ever uses lame whimsical names, because you're a coward. If you care about people mistaking which comments are yours, then pay the consequences which are gonna be you getting blamed everytime someone else does it.

Or cowboy up, and use your real name. Take some actual credit for the drivel you post.

 
At 02 July, 2010 19:24, Anonymous Marc said...

Al Qaeda Magazine looks like something that the Onion came up with.

 
At 02 July, 2010 19:35, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

" Arhoolie (Billmans's Fave) said...
Boy,when Sir Deep-Doo-Doo flails he really flails with the best of them! It's actually pretty entertaining at this point! Oh,by the way,Superpud Billman,that wasn't me before.There's nothing quite like the Debunker Cult taking flying fucks at rolling doughnuts!!"

A paycheck learns a hard lesson from a ridiculously moronic maelstrom. For example, a seldom infected industrial complex indicates that the fire hydrant trades baseball cards with an almost green tripod. A class action suit living with some buzzard, another short order cook toward another carpet tack, and an incinerated diskette are what made America great! Now and then, the bullfrog single-handledly ignores a chain saw of some tomato. The hole puncher wakes up, and a girl scout feels nagging remorse; however, the eggplant underhandedly can be kind to some short order cook.

Right, assholio?

 
At 03 July, 2010 06:51, Anonymous Arhoolie (Pornboy's Conquerer!) said...

Hey Bilbo,you whiny,soporific blowhard,if you're as nutty as the "Git" and think that the iron rich microspheres were made by workers on the pile,football fields away,then you're completely hopeless.I didn't get your take on that one,Goober.Are you aware of the consequences of your failure to address that point? Just another El Foldo from the jerkoff Debunker Cult.Talk about cowardly! But then,you actually think the 9/11 Commission Report wasn't a sophisticated propaganda operation,or lots of cans of shaving cream were exploding down there.Is "anonymous" now a whimsical name? Why don't you just stick with tweaking your Facebook page,kissing your wife's butt and boning up on the mountain of evidence that 9/11 was a false flag event.You obviously don't know much besides "Loose Change".P.S. has anyone ever collapsed into a pile worse than the Insane PornBoy? The guy is falling apart in sections,like a Joe Louis "bum of the month"! Just call me the Brown Bomber from now on!! Jeepers,Jethro,you're experiencing quite a writers block there fella.Your frontal lobes must be taking a real pounding these days,that LSD inspired satire is scary stupid and just might crack up,well,an idiot like the Nutty Professor over in crapped out Blighty.

 
At 03 July, 2010 07:01, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Jerkoff Debunker Cult"

ROFL


You give these Bozos too much credit

 
At 03 July, 2010 07:04, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Al Qaeda Magazine looks like something that the Onion came up with.


It's written in the basement of the Pentagon where they cook up all the other propaganda.....................................................and these guys on this site swallow it up.

 
At 03 July, 2010 07:50, Blogger Billman said...

Heh. So now you attack me with counterpoints (lame ones, as usual) to an argument you're having with GuitarBill.

And why? Because you're an incoherent immature gullible jackass and I said "hey, if you want people to stop confusing you, be consistant somehow (I.e. a real name, learn to use a spacebar properly, grow the fuck up)."

But I know you're just here to troll because you're butthutt about 9/11.

Oh, and nice work posting as another "Anonymous" to agree with yourself. You are so transparently pathetic funny. Winning any argument here is "victory for troof!" apparently, that the "truthers" will LIE (I.e. opposite of TRUTH) to get it.

You truthers should all be deeply ashamed of yourselves. You're worse than Al Qaeda.

 
At 03 July, 2010 07:52, Blogger Billman said...

And I agree, that magazine looks like an emulation of The Onion.

 
At 03 July, 2010 08:06, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The illiterate ArseHooligan scribbles, "...Hey Bilbo,you whiny,soporific blowhard,if you're as nutty as the "Git" and think that the iron rich microspheres were made by workers on the pile,football fields away,then you're completely hopeless"

ArseHooligan, why are you studiously avoiding the content of the following post?

Source: SLC: Fly ash

I own your ass.

Now, bow to your master, scumbag.

And remember, I'm just askin' questions...

 
At 03 July, 2010 08:11, Blogger Billman said...

It's because he knows you're right, GuitarBill, and he can't brainfart up a way to refute you. So he attacks your character and/or anyone else here he can, in a desperate attempt to change the subject.

It's like arguing evolution with a christian against these people... sigh. They don't get that THEY are the closed minded ones. And never will.

 
At 03 July, 2010 08:21, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Billman wrote, "...It's because he knows you're right, GuitarBill, and he can't brainfart up a way to refute you. So he attacks your character and/or anyone else here he can, in a desperate attempt to change the subject."

Well said, Bill.

Notice that the presence of amorphous alumino-silicate spheres in the fly ash explains everything Jones found in his "dust samples", not just the presence of iron-rich sphere.

Not only do we OWN The ArseHooligan, we OWN Steven Jones, too.

The troofers may as well bend over and kiss their collective ass goodbye--they're finished.

 
At 03 July, 2010 09:01, Blogger Billman said...

I would forgive all the smug anti-american/jewish bullshit and the lies and youtube videos and ad-homs and pseudo-science, if they just admitted they were WRONG and APOLOGIZED to all of the 9/11 victims' families that they've bashed by bringing up this insane bullshit.

 
At 03 July, 2010 09:15, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hm... fly ash. That led me to something interesting I hadn't seen before, a 2003 NIH study of WTC dust samples. Key phrase, top of 977: The relative weight-percent ratios of Al, Mg, and Fe are in the range of those found in portland cement, a major component of concrete. In other words, the iron was already accounted for in 2003.

Note to 9/11 Truthers: Sometimes scientists use abbreviations. "Fe" means "iron". Have an adult read the rest of the paper to you if you still have questions.

 
At 03 July, 2010 09:17, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Goddamn it, wrong link -- try that one.

 
At 03 July, 2010 10:49, Anonymous Arhoolie V. said...

Wasn't attacking you,dumbass,merely hoping you'd have a scratch at "Git" and his nutty claim that the microspheres were created by workers on the pile.The usual long,big zero from you."..nice work posing as 'anonymous'".That about sums up your whole schtick,Superpussy White Boy.The last refuge of the ridiculous Debunker Cult is ALWAYS take a goofy stab at who "anonymous" is.Is there a mold problem at your house too? And did we hear yet another whiny screech about ad hominems from you Dogboy? Here at Ad Hominem Central? The mind reels at the level of stupidity you exhibit,Bilbo BaggedAgain.Keep in mind that the Nutty Fretboy was the one to threaten me first.And you are the Wackiest Ship in the Debunker Cult Navy,in case you didn't notice.Apologize to the victim's families?! I know some of them and they think guys like you are out of your minds for using them as a stick.Back to waxing the "Git's" butthole for you sophomore.

 
At 03 July, 2010 10:56, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Still refuse to acknowledge the ass whipping you just took, scumbag?

No comment on the fly ash?

Cat got your tongue, cretin?

Coward.

And remember, I'm just askin' questions...

 
At 03 July, 2010 11:52, Anonymous Sword of Truth said...

On top of which,the insane Yuppie on long distance,public saxophone insists that the iron rich microspheres found in World Trade dust samples found hundreds of yards from Ground Zero were created by.....yes,workers on the pile at Ground Zero.

Iron microspheres are also made by vehicle brake pads. They can be found all over public streets and highways thousands of miles from the WTC site.

 
At 03 July, 2010 12:17, Anonymous Marc said...

The Pentagon doesn't have a basement anymore. When we are successfully indoctrinated into the debunker cult we get a full tour of the Pentagon, as well as CIA, NSA, NRO, FBI, DEA, BATF, DHS,DOE, and EIEIO headquarters buildings.

They also tell us who killed Kennedy (Actor Wally Cox), and show us footage of all the captured alien spacecraft they're hiding in Idaho.

Then we head out to Blackwater's HQ where we get cookies and ice cream.

 
At 03 July, 2010 12:29, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Marc wrote, "...The Pentagon doesn't have a basement anymore. When we are successfully indoctrinated into the debunker cult we get a full tour of the Pentagon, as well as CIA, NSA, NRO, FBI, DEA, BATF, DHS,DOE, and EIEIO headquarters buildings."

Marc, don't forget "Q Group".

Wayne Madsen: "I've actually seen documentation about ah...ah...ah...ah..."

Notice that Madsen won't show us his alleged "documentation".

Source: Russia Today: Madsen: 'Whistle blown on secret 9/11 unit'

LOL!

Yeah right, the "government" set up a special "organization" specifically to discredit the troofers.

Arrogant much, troofers?

 
At 03 July, 2010 12:37, Blogger Billman said...

Lol!

Oh you "know some of them" and that makes you an expert on ALL of them, right? Pfft... whatever.

I know some of them too, and like you once claimed, I was friends with an actual victim. And the family members I know think the truthers are nutbar scum that use the names of the victims for profit by peddling shitty videos and t-shirts.

You truthers always think every single family member is going to support your cause. But they ALL don't, and you can't accept that, can you?

Pfft... you honestly must think you have some kind of monopoly on 9/11 victim family members, don't you?

How arrogant do you have to be to be a 9/11 truther? Seriously..

And as if that gives any credence to your movement's arguments for thermite, controlled demolition, no planes, digital fakery, alive hijackers, and numerous other debunked bullshit that you refuse to believe...

You are just like Jon Gold, missing the whole point of what the family members are really trying to get. I'll give you a hint: it's NOT PROOF of controlled demolition.

And even Jon Gold can sometimes get it right and head in the right direction, but then he gets all butthurt because a conspiracy video isn't displayed in a book store. Is THAT what his version of 9/11 truth is? After all, he claims he invented the truth movement.

Heh, I'm getting surprised that you guys can even dress yourselves properly.

Hey everybody, Arhoolie "knows some of" the family members. That means 9/11 was a government conspiracy. Case closed. We can shut down ScrewLooseChange.blogspot.com now. I'll alert the media. I'm sure this will be the top story on the evening news. Let's all become truthers and spread the truth!

 
At 03 July, 2010 13:44, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"The last refuge of the ridiculous Debunker Cult is ALWAYS take a goofy stab at who "anonymous" is.Is there a mold problem at your house too? And did we hear yet another whiny screech about ad hominems from you Dogboy? Here at Ad Hominem Central? The mind reels at the level of stupidity you exhibit,Bilbo BaggedAgain.Keep in mind that the Nutty Fretboy was the one to threaten me first.And you are the Wackiest Ship in the Debunker Cult Navy,in case you didn't notice.Apologize to the victim's families?! I know some of them and they think guys like you are out of your minds for using them as a stick."


The collective watches the kidnapped sphere beside the audio, and incoherent machine inflicts a predecessor across the capital western. Whatever void welcomes the giant movie. An annoyance pretends, but the dialect volunteers with the revealing debt.
Can an explosive suit an algebraic cartoon?

Well can it, assholio?

And do you know what a spacebar is?

 
At 03 July, 2010 13:47, Blogger Billman said...

Heh, wow, Lazarus. I thought you really were Arhoolie for a second (except for the spaces).

 
At 03 July, 2010 15:07, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The ArseHooligan dissembles, "...Keep in mind that the Nutty Fretboy was the one to threaten me first."

Liar. I didn't threaten you, ArseHooligan. Here's what I said:

"...You need a Texas-sized ass whoopin' to knock some sense into you.""

That's not a threat, it's a suggestion--you fool. A threat is something like,

"...Shut your maw, ArseHooligan, or I'll give you a Texas-sized ass whoopin'."

Obviously, best case, you can't read. Worst case, you're resorting to another straw man argument. And my guess it's the latter not the former.

And you wonder why you're despised.

 
At 03 July, 2010 18:16, Anonymous Marc said...

The first rule of Q Group is "Don't talk about Q Group."

The second rule of Q Group is "Remember to chip in and leave a couple bucks in the coffee can at the doughnut table. That stuff doesn't grow on trees"

 
At 05 July, 2010 00:39, Anonymous chakka said...

i know it's difficult for you kids to comprehend; but in reality 5 people who were members of the flight team that was scheduled to deliver the dummy nukes to barksdale all died with in a month or two of the lose nukes incident. check out this site, here's great article on it

 
At 05 July, 2010 00:51, Anonymous chakka said...

The Mystery of Minot: Loose nukes and a cluster of dead airmen raise troubling questions
by Dave Lindorff
Wed, 11/21/2007—The unauthorized Aug. 29 cross-country flight of a B-52H Stratofortress armed with six nuclear-tipped AGM-29 Advanced Cruise missiles, which saw these 150-kiloton warheads go missing for 36 hours, has all the elements of two Hollywood movies. One would be a thriller about the theft from an armed weapons bunker of six nukes for some dark and murky purpose. The lead might be played by Matt Damon. The other movie would be a slapstick comedy about a bunch of bozos who couldn’t tell the difference between a nuclear weapon and a pile of dummy warheads. The lead might be played by Adam Sandler, backed by the cast of “Police Academy III.”
So far, the Pentagon, which has launched two separate investigations into the incident, seems to be assuming that it is dealing with the comedy version, saying that some incredible “mistake” led to nuclear weapons being taken inadvertently from a weapons-storage bunker, loaded into launch position on a bomber, and flown from North Dakota to Louisiana. The American Conservative has discovered that to date, more than a month after the incident, Pentagon investigators have completely ignored a peculiar cluster of six deaths, during the weeks immediately preceding and following the flight, of personnel at the two Air Force bases involved in the incident and Air Force Commando Operations headquarters.

The operative assumption of the investigations appears to be that an Air Force decision to store nuclear, conventional, and dummy warheads in the same bunker and one mistake by weapons handlers initiated a chain of errors and oversights that led to the flight.

 
At 05 July, 2010 00:53, Anonymous chakka said...

On Sept. 23, the Washington Post, in a story based upon interviews with military officials, many of them unidentified, suggested that the first known case of nuclear warheads leaving a weapons-storage area improperly was the result of two mistakes. The first, the article suggested, was a decision by the Air Force to permit the storing of nuclear weapons in the same highly secure and constantly guarded sod-covered bunkers—known as “igloos”—as non-nuclear weapons and dummy warheads (something that had never been allowed in the past). The second was some as yet unidentified mistake by weapons handlers at Minot to mount six nuclear warheads onto six of the 12 Advanced Cruise Missiles that had been slated to be flown to Barksdale AFB for destruction. Those missiles and the six others, part of a group of 400 such missiles slated for retirement and disassembly, should have been fitted with dummy warheads also. The Post article quotes military sources as saying that once the mistake was made, a cascade of errors followed as weapons handlers, ground crews, and the B-52 crew dkipped all nuclear protocols, assuming they were dealing with dummy warheads.

The problem with this theory is that dummy warheads don’t look the same as the real thing. The real warheads, called W80-1’s, are shiny silver, which is clearly visible through postage-stamp-sized windows on the nosecone covers that protect them on the missiles. In addition, the mounted warheads are encased in a red covering as a second precaution.

Apparently the nukes (which can be set to explode at between 5 kilotons and 150 kilotons) were easily spotted by a Barksdale AFB ground crew when they went out to the plane on the tarmac hours after it landed. If the barksdale ground crew, which had no reason to suspect it was looking at nuclear-tipped missiles, easily spotted the “error,” why did everyone at Minot miss it, as claimed?
Clearly, whoever loaded the six nukes on one B-52 wing pod, and whoever mounted that pod on the wing, knew or should have known that they were dealing with nukes—and absend an order from the highest authority in Washington, loading such nukes on a bomber was against all policy. The odds of randomly putting six nukes all on one pod, and six dummies on the other, are 1:924. And how curious that the pilot, who is supposed to check all 12 missiles before flying, checked only the pod containing the dummy warheads.

Various experts familiar with nuclear-weapons-handling protocols express astonishment at what happened on Aug. 29 and 30. After all, over the course of more than six decades, the protocols for handling nuclear arms have called for at least two people at every step, with paper trails, bar codes, and real-time computer tracking of every warhead in the arsenal. Nothing like this has been known to have happened before. Air Force Gen. Eugene Habiger, who served as US Strategic Command chief from 1996 to 1998, told the Post, “I have been in the nuclear business since 1966 and am not aware of any incident more disturbing.”

 
At 05 July, 2010 00:58, Anonymous chakka said...

Philip Coyle, a senior advisor at the Center for Defense Information who served as assistant secretary of defense in the Clinton administration, calls the iincident “astonishing” and “unbelievable.” He says, “This wasn’t just a mistake. I’ve counted, and at least 20 things had to have gone wrong for this to have occurred.”

Bruce Blair, a former Air Force nuclear launch officer who is now president of the World Security Institute, says that the explanation of the incident as laid out in the Washington Post, and in the limited statements from the Air Force and Department of Defense, which call it a “mistake,” are “incomplete.” He notes that no mention has been made as to whether the nukes in question, which had been pre-mounted on a pylon for attachment to the B-52 wing, had their PAL (permiswsion action link) codes unlocked to make them operational, or whether a system on board the plane that would ordinarily prevent an unauthorized launch had been activated. “For all we know, these missiles could have been fully operational,” he says.

The Air Force and Department of Defense are refusing to answer any questions about such matters.

Meanwhile, there are those six deaths. On July 20, 1st Lt. Weston Kissel, a 28-year-old B-52 pilot from Minot, died in a motorcycle accident while on home leave in Tennessee.

Another Minot B-52 pilot, 20-year-old Adam Barrs, died on July 5 in Minot when a car he was riding in, driven by another Minot airman, Stephen Garrett, went off the road, hit a tree, and caught fire. Airman Garrett was brought to the hospital in critical condition and has since been charged with negligent homicide.

Two more Air Force personnel, Senior Airman Clint Huff, 29, of Barksdale AFB, and his wife Linda died on Sept. 15 in nearby Shreveport, Louisiana, when Huff reportedly attempted to pass a van in a no-passing zone on his motorcycle, and the van made a left-hand turn, striking them.

Then there are two reported suicides, which both occurred within days of the flight. One involved Todd Blue, a 20-year-old airman who was in a unit that guarded weapons at Minot. He reportedly shot himself in the head on Sept. 11 while on a visit to his family in Wytheville, Virginia. Local police investigators termed his death a suicide.
The second suicide, on Aug. 30, was John Frueh, a special forces weather commando at the Air Force’s Special Operations command headquartered at Hurlburt AFB in Florida. Hurlburt’s website says, “Every night, as millions of Americans sleep peacefully under the blanket of freedom,” Air Force special Operations commandos work “in deep dark places, far away from home, risking their lives to keep that blanket safe.”

Frueh, 33, a married father of two who had just received approval for promotion from captain to major, reportedly flew from Florida to Portland, Oregon, for a friend’s wedding. He never showed up. Instead, he called on Aug. 29, the day the missiles were loaded, from an interstate pull-off just outside Portland to say he was going for a hike in a park nearby. (It is not clear why he was at a highway rest stop as he had no car.) A day later, back in Portland, he rented a car at the airport, again calling his family. After he failed to appear at the wedding, his family filed a missing person’s report with the Portland police. The Sheriff’s Department in remote Skamania County, Washington, found Frueh’s rental car ten days later on the side of a road nearly 120 miles from the airport in a remote area of Badger Peak. Search dogs found his body in the woods. His death was ruled a suicide, though neither the sheriff’s investigator nor the medical examiner would give details. What makes this alleged suicide odd, however, is that the sheriff reports that Frueh had with him a knapsack containing a GPS locator and a videocam—odd equipment for someone intent on ending his life.

 
At 05 July, 2010 00:58, Anonymous chakka said...

Philip Coyle, a senior advisor at the Center for Defense Information who served as assistant secretary of defense in the Clinton administration, calls the iincident “astonishing” and “unbelievable.” He says, “This wasn’t just a mistake. I’ve counted, and at least 20 things had to have gone wrong for this to have occurred.”

Bruce Blair, a former Air Force nuclear launch officer who is now president of the World Security Institute, says that the explanation of the incident as laid out in the Washington Post, and in the limited statements from the Air Force and Department of Defense, which call it a “mistake,” are “incomplete.” He notes that no mention has been made as to whether the nukes in question, which had been pre-mounted on a pylon for attachment to the B-52 wing, had their PAL (permiswsion action link) codes unlocked to make them operational, or whether a system on board the plane that would ordinarily prevent an unauthorized launch had been activated. “For all we know, these missiles could have been fully operational,” he says.

The Air Force and Department of Defense are refusing to answer any questions about such matters.

Meanwhile, there are those six deaths. On July 20, 1st Lt. Weston Kissel, a 28-year-old B-52 pilot from Minot, died in a motorcycle accident while on home leave in Tennessee.

Another Minot B-52 pilot, 20-year-old Adam Barrs, died on July 5 in Minot when a car he was riding in, driven by another Minot airman, Stephen Garrett, went off the road, hit a tree, and caught fire. Airman Garrett was brought to the hospital in critical condition and has since been charged with negligent homicide.

Two more Air Force personnel, Senior Airman Clint Huff, 29, of Barksdale AFB, and his wife Linda died on Sept. 15 in nearby Shreveport, Louisiana, when Huff reportedly attempted to pass a van in a no-passing zone on his motorcycle, and the van made a left-hand turn, striking them.

Then there are two reported suicides, which both occurred within days of the flight. One involved Todd Blue, a 20-year-old airman who was in a unit that guarded weapons at Minot. He reportedly shot himself in the head on Sept. 11 while on a visit to his family in Wytheville, Virginia. Local police investigators termed his death a suicide.
The second suicide, on Aug. 30, was John Frueh, a special forces weather commando at the Air Force’s Special Operations command headquartered at Hurlburt AFB in Florida. Hurlburt’s website says, “Every night, as millions of Americans sleep peacefully under the blanket of freedom,” Air Force special Operations commandos work “in deep dark places, far away from home, risking their lives to keep that blanket safe.”

Frueh, 33, a married father of two who had just received approval for promotion from captain to major, reportedly flew from Florida to Portland, Oregon, for a friend’s wedding. He never showed up. Instead, he called on Aug. 29, the day the missiles were loaded, from an interstate pull-off just outside Portland to say he was going for a hike in a park nearby. (It is not clear why he was at a highway rest stop as he had no car.) A day later, back in Portland, he rented a car at the airport, again calling his family. After he failed to appear at the wedding, his family filed a missing person’s report with the Portland police. The Sheriff’s Department in remote Skamania County, Washington, found Frueh’s rental car ten days later on the side of a road nearly 120 miles from the airport in a remote area of Badger Peak. Search dogs found his body in the woods. His death was ruled a suicide, though neither the sheriff’s investigator nor the medical examiner would give details. What makes this alleged suicide odd, however, is that the sheriff reports that Frueh had with him a knapsack containing a GPS locator and a videocam—odd equipment for someone intent on ending his life.

 
At 05 July, 2010 01:00, Anonymous chakka said...

Of course, it could be that all six of these deaths are coincidences—all just accidents and personal tragedies. But when they occur around the time six nuclear-tipped missiles go missing in a bizarre incident, the likes of which the Pentagon hasn’t seen before, one would think investigators would be on those cases like vultures on carrion. In fact, police and medical examiners in the Frueh and Blue cases say no federal investigators, whether from DOD or FBI, have called them. Worse still, because the B-52 incident got so little media attention—no coverage in most local news—none of those investigating the accidents and suicides even knew about it or about the other deaths.

“It would have been interesting to know all that when I was examining Mr. Blue’s body,” says coroner Mike Stoker, “but no one told me about any of it or asked me about him.”

“If we had known that several people had died under questionable circumstances, it might have affected how we’d look at a body,” says Don Phillips, the sheriff’s deputy who investigated the Frueh death. “But nobody from the federal government has ever contacted us about this.”

“Certainly, in a case like this, the suicides should be a red flag,” says Hans Kristensen, a nuclear-affairs expert with the Federation of American Scientists. It’s wild speculation to think that there might be some connection between the deaths and the incident, but it certainly should be investigated.”

 
At 05 July, 2010 02:12, Anonymous great ceasers ghost said...

CFR

check out this info on the CFR, know your history. i've found the ignorace regarding the CFR on SLC is pretty thick, so much so i think it's an act.

 
At 05 July, 2010 05:38, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

'A female colleague claims that the UN weapons inspector could not have committed suicide as claimed, as he was too weak to cut his own wrist.

Mai Pedersen, a U.S. Air Force officer who served with Dr Kelly's inspection team in Iraq, said a hand and arm injury meant that the 59-year-old even 'had difficulty cutting his own steak'.'

Wow, I wasn't aware that it was less easy to saw through one's own wrists than it was to cut through an overdone sirloin. The things one learns.

Incidentally, there's a big gaping whole in the 'Kelly-was-killed-because-he-knew-the-true-story-about-the-war-on-Iraq' thesis. Namely, the fact that he actually supported Saddam Hussein's overthrow:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2003/aug/31/davidkelly.iraq1

 
At 05 July, 2010 08:26, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Moron wrote, "...check out this info on the CFR, know your history. i've found the ignorace regarding the CFR on SLC is pretty thick..."

"[T]hick"?

Really? No kidding?

The CFR is a think tank that performs studies programs and research, spelling bee champ.

"...The Council on Foreign Relations' David Rockefeller Studies Program — CFR's 'think tank' — is composed of about fifty adjunct and full-time scholars and practitioners (called 'fellows') as well as ten in-resident recipients of year-long fellowships who cover the major regions and significant issues shaping today's international agenda. These scholars contribute to the foreign policy debate by writing books, reports, articles, and op-eds on the most important challenges facing the United States and the world."

Source: CFR: David Rockefeller Studies Program.

In fact, one of the CFR's main contributions to "today's international agenda" is to publish op-ed articles, which the CT crazies like to erroneously elevate to policy papers.

"[T]hick"?

Yeah, if nothing else, you're "thick".

 
At 05 July, 2010 20:22, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"Apparently the nukes (which can be set to explode at between 5 kilotons and 150 kilotons)"

Oh, sweet jeebus in a diving suit.

 
At 06 July, 2010 07:41, Anonymous Arhoolie V. said...

Is there a goofier fuck than the lame "BillboBaggedAgain" anywhere on Earth? Long winded,whiny,screeching and stupid just ain't cutting it Dogboy! Back to squeezing fake tits for you jackoff!

 
At 06 July, 2010 14:30, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

" Arhoolie V. said...
Is there a goofier fuck than the lame "BillboBaggedAgain" anywhere on Earth? Long winded,whiny,screeching and stupid just ain't cutting it Dogboy! Back to squeezing fake tits for you jackoff!"

Most people believe that another overwhelmingly blotched turkey single-handledly graduates from a fire hydrant for the skyscraper, but they need to remember how somewhat a gentle corporation takes a coffee break. Another rude fraction sanitizes the impromptu cheese wheel, because another gratifying submarine negotiates a prenuptial agreement with a stoic warranty. The fraction from a polar bear earns frequent flier miles, and a chess board beyond the cloud formation feels nagging remorse; however, a corporation defined by the turkey underhandedly derives perverse satisfaction from another polygon. For example, the mastadon toward another salad dressing indicates that a mastadon falls in love with some blood clot. Now and then, the molten scythe organizes the demon about another satellite.

Right, assholio?

 
At 06 July, 2010 16:45, Anonymous Arhoolie "Solitary" Vanunu said...

You got it,smart guy! You've flipped your lid and gone straight down the rabbit hole! That's what you get for worshipping Ronald Weak's comb-over.Don't worry,we won't mention what a dim bulb racist,drug dealing piece of shit Ronald Reagan was.And will always be.

 
At 06 July, 2010 16:45, Anonymous Arhoolie "Solitary" Vanunu said...

You got it,smart guy! You've flipped your lid and gone straight down the rabbit hole! That's what you get for worshipping Ronald Weak's comb-over.Don't worry,we won't mention what a dim bulb racist,drug dealing piece of shit Ronald Reagan was.And will always be.

 
At 06 July, 2010 18:04, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"Arhoolie "Solitary" Vanunu said...
You got it,smart guy! You've flipped your lid and gone straight down the rabbit hole! That's what you get for worshipping Ronald Weak's comb-over.Don't worry,we won't mention what a dim bulb racist,drug dealing piece of shit Ronald Reagan was.And will always be."


Most people believe that a chess board tries to seduce a hydrogen atom, but they need to remember how almost a freight train around a fairy returns home. When a slyly obsequious grizzly bear is phony, a traffic light secretly laughs and drinks all night with the inferiority complex. If the hydrogen atom from a cab driver accurately gives lectures on morality to a polka-dotted paper napkin, then an Alaskan sheriff earns frequent flier miles. If a fat cowboy learns a hard lesson from an Alaskan carpet tack, then the slyly tattered particle accelerator feels nagging remorse. When the tripod daydreams, an insurance agent gets stinking drunk.


Right or wrong, assholio?

Give your enlightenment.

 
At 07 July, 2010 10:29, Anonymous Arhoolie in solitary w/Mordechai said...

The stewed prune from grimey,sooty Pubsville turned steak into overdone sirloin in one easy turn! Awww,ain't he special.

 
At 07 July, 2010 19:11, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"Arhoolie in solitary w/Mordechai said...
The stewed prune from grimey,sooty Pubsville turned steak into overdone sirloin in one easy turn! Awww,ain't he special."

Most people believe that some green short order cook graduates from a prime minister, but they need to remember how ostensibly the crane living with the fairy meditates. Some smelly flavored hell dances with the so-called razor blade. A tripod knowingly plays pinochle with the traffic light for the ocean. For example, the industrial complex indicates that the customer borrows money from some outer light bulb. If the traffic light of a recliner eats a corporation near some bottle of beer, then the warranty for the roller coaster gets stinking drunk.

Right, asshole?

 
At 07 July, 2010 22:39, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

Walt, tell us some more exciting stories about your successful life. I still want to hear the full story of your three year OIF tour.

 
At 09 July, 2010 10:48, Anonymous Arhoolie Vanunu said...

Like the knight played by John Cleese in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail",the Nutty Professor soldiers on,claiming it's only a flesh wound and all is well at the pub.Down to his last biscuit,which involves spitting out the same tired error strewn nonsense.I feel for you,bro! Keep on keepin' on Moldboy,you got it all sussed!

 
At 10 July, 2010 05:45, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

Come on, Walt. Don't be shy. Few months back you were giving it large about your three years with the special forces in Iraq, and your life as a stud in Southport and New Cross.

What's the matter? Cat got your tongue? Or has all that acid you've been taking finally fucked up your skull?

 
At 12 July, 2010 08:14, Anonymous Arhoolie V. said...

Poor Sackdoily.Hapless,desperate and the working definition of a pretentious twit.If JerkoffJamesB ("Steve Coll's come tastes like strawberries") and the dim bulb Paddy ("Phil Zelikow rocks!!')weren't the pussies they are,the Nutty Professor would have been exposed as the addled hack he is.Instead,crashing silence to protect the homeboy from their ludicrous cult.Without them you're nothin' Dogboy,a a pathetic blowhard.Depleted uranium's a bad hassle,hey Archie?

 

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