Wednesday, August 11, 2010

A Little Assistance

I occasionally mock the folks over at Truth Action as the "responsible" wing of the Troofers, but here's an occasion where they deserve the adjective without the scare quotes.

To set the stage, it's a post about a woman who witnessed the Pentagon crash on 9-11. She was interviewed by CIT, but they have not seen fit to include her testimony in any of their films. Indeed, Aldo and Craig have misrepresented her viewpoint and discounted her testimony about the impact.

The thread was originally posted in January of this year and quickly died down, but it was resurrected recently by a CIT-head named Thetan1974. Among the points he raises is this:

Sure, the victims could have been on it, but the "hijackers'" DNA was never found and FBI only "believes" Hani Hanjour did it. No proof at all.


And what follows is a terrific job of debunking.

Arcterus:
Yeah, that's right. The FBI just "believes" it. They pulled a hijacker out from a hat and said "I have a gut feeling about this!" Then they consorted their FBI Bibles which stated Hanjour was the pilot, thus confirming their beliefs, and so started the Church of the FBI.

Back in reality, it would be obvious that Hanjour would be the pilot since he was the only one of the five Pentagon hijackers who had any flight training.


And:
Well, we know he was on the plane, and we know that he was the only hijacker with any flight training. Is there any other reason? Maybe, I don't know. Probably. I don't have an exhaustive list of the evidence for that off the top of my head. But it's so obvious it would have been him, if anyone, that I don't really know why you're even asking. I mean, even if it wasn't him, so what? It was a different hijacker. What difference would that make? It's like you're being the devil's advocate. You know, that or a troll.

You have the DNA of everyone on the flight except for 5 unidentified strands which just happen to be the same as the number of hijackers on board. Plot twist?


Let me give Arcterus a hand on the DNA. Not only were there five unidentified strands which just happen to be the same as the number of hijackers on board, but two of the strands were definitely proven to be from brothers. And two of the hijackers (Nawaf al-Hazmi and Salem al-Hazmi) on board Flight 77 were in fact siblings.

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38 Comments:

At 11 August, 2010 11:26, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The wild-eyed nut bag, Rancho Truth, howls, "...Craig Ranke has posted a 'rebuttal' filled with additional deceptions, as well as false accusations...A 'swingdangler' posted it in the 911blogger thread, swooning over it, as well as, unsurprisingly, Adam 'sockpuppet' Syed."

I love it when troofers ban one another and accuse their fellow troofers of "stupid and juvenile behavior", or promoting a "dishonest counter-movement" and "blatant lying."

TROOFER CAT-FIGHT!

Get the popcorn, honey! It's time for another episode of Troofer Stupidity.

 
At 11 August, 2010 11:32, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe invite one of your "friends" to come over, Bill.

Billman? Do you have Bill's phone number? You're both named Bill, so you already have some common ground to talk about. Oh, and you're in full agreement with government propaganda about 9/11.

Bill? Bill is coming over. He's going to be your friend. In real life.

 
At 11 August, 2010 11:55, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

" Anonymous said...
Maybe invite one of your "friends" to come over, Bill.

Billman? Do you have Bill's phone number? You're both named Bill, so you already have some common ground to talk about. Oh, and you're in full agreement with government propaganda about 9/11.

Bill? Bill is coming over. He's going to be your friend. In real life."

And this childish bablle has exactly what to do with the subject at hand, the 9/11 hijackings or, well, just about anything that exists in reality?

 
At 11 August, 2010 12:17, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...Maybe invite one of your 'friends' to come over, Bill."

Is that your idea of "humor"--you prattling pillow-biting pederast?

Again, a conservative estimate of your IQ, Mr. Junior College dropout

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At 11 August, 2010 12:23, Blogger GuitarBill said...

And now folks, it's time for another exciting episode of the 9/11 troofers™ favorite game show, Spot The Jew, with your host, Julius Streicher.

Julius Streicher: And now our final question for the 9/11 troofers™: For $20,000, can you Spot The Jews in the following video?

linked video

Good Luck!

 
At 11 August, 2010 12:35, Anonymous Arhoolie Vanunu said...

When desperate and taking a consistent,prolonged drubbing:break open the "Jew Hater" capsule and spread around liberally!

 
At 11 August, 2010 12:41, Anonymous Bikerman said...

GuitarBill, I love that "middle finger" text thingy. Love it. !!

 
At 11 August, 2010 12:44, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The ArseHooligan, fugitive from justice, dissembles, "...When desperate and taking a consistent,prolonged drubbing:break open the "Jew Hater" capsule and spread around liberally!"

"Drubbing"?

When has a troofer ever given me a "drubbling"? In fact, I consistently kick your ass all over this blog, shit-for-brains.

And to that point, here's another example of me debunking your stupid ass again, ArseHooligan.

Source: SLC: The idiot ArseHooligan lying about Bhutto and bin Laden.

Enjoy your bowl of crow, scumbag.

 
At 11 August, 2010 12:52, Blogger avicenne said...

Thetan1974 says, "Reality is also: There's absolutely no proof of Flight77 hitting the Pentagon."

These nuts are beyond redemption. There were kids on that flight, as if this moron or the rest of the bomb slingers give a shit about any of the victims.

Sick fucks.

 
At 11 August, 2010 13:21, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Come on, ArseHooligan, tell us more about the alleged drubblings you've meted out to SLC's debunkers--you lying, no account, little sod.

LOL!

 
At 11 August, 2010 13:27, Anonymous Arhoolie Vanunu said...

This from the gay hating,happily married (!?!),Texas Twister,who insanely insists that Israel has no nuclear weapons and that workers on the pile created the microspheres ("hey,there's a small chance of this",asserted the goofy "Git").Try anything Goober,throw it out there after a quick cram session on Google.It's called sophistry and that's your specialty,jackoff.Nothing on Daniel Pearl and how it ended up that Sheikh,of all people ends up fingered for his assassination.Maybe Sackdoily and the "Git" can contact Colin Powell's office,or perhaps Condi's,and ask them where the evidence that bin Laden was behind this is located,because they broke their promise to the world to divulge this "slam dunk" case to the public.And goofy fucks like them went for propaganda like the lemmings they are.

 
At 11 August, 2010 13:39, Blogger GuitarBill said...

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At 11 August, 2010 13:50, Blogger GuitarBill said...

That's right, ArseHooligan, when your back is against the wall and you're bleeding and close to death, CHANGE THE SUBJECT.

Let's see, I caught you lying repeatedly about Israel's alleged nukes, the iron-rich and alumino-silicate spheres and now, Benazir Bhutto.

And you wonder why I accuse you of anti-Semitism? Cry me a river, motherfucker.

Look at your stand on Israel's alleged nukes. I've proven that Vanunu had no evidence because photographs are not admissible in a court of law, unless they verified by a credible expert.

Hurry, ArseHooligan, CHANGE THE SUBJECT.

Thus, you are

Shot Down In Flames.

 
At 11 August, 2010 14:50, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Correction.

"...unless they're verified by a credible expert."

 
At 11 August, 2010 15:04, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Billman? Bill needs a friend. Why aren't you there for him? Can't you see he's lonely?

Bill, hang in there. =)

 
At 11 August, 2010 15:25, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian, I hear your mom calling you to dinner--and she has a nice cold bowl of Alpo. Yum...

 
At 11 August, 2010 15:32, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Call The We Are Change NYC complaint Line 718-717-2543

 
At 11 August, 2010 16:11, Blogger GuitarBill said...

GuitarBill calls the We Are Change NYC complaint Line.

GuitarBill: (Dials 718-717-2543)...

WAC: "Hello, this is the We Are Change complaint line...

GuitarBill: "...Hi! My name is GuitarBill and I have a request..."

WAC: "What can we do for you?"

GuitarBill: "Do the World a favor and keep your associate, Brian Good, on a leash."

WAC: "Brian Good?"

GuitarBill: "Yeah, that's right, Brian Good."

WAC: "Just a moment, sir, I'll be right back. Stay on the line."

5 minutes elapse...

WAC: "Hello, GuitarBill, are you still there?"

GuitarBill: "Yes, speaking."

WAC: "We have no connection to Brain Good whatsoever."

GuitarBill: "Really? No kidding?"

WAC: "That's right, sir. Brian Good was ousted from We Are Change for stalking, compulsive lying, sexual perversion, disrupting our meetings with off-topic nonsense, and repeatedly attempting to suck Luke Rudkowski's dick. He's a nut case and a pariah, and we want absolutely nothing to do with him. He's toxic."

GuitarBill: "Oh okay, sorry I bothered you. Have a good weekend."

...Click.

 
At 11 August, 2010 16:31, Anonymous Anonymous said...

When is bill going to come out of the closet and show us some of his groovy tunes. His sun up till sun down posting is getting old.
Come on bill, show us youre not a billshitter and provide "proof" of your multi-tasking life.

 
At 11 August, 2010 17:18, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"Anonymous said...
When is bill going to come out of the closet and show us some of his groovy tunes. His sun up till sun down posting is getting old.
Come on bill, show us youre not a billshitter and provide "proof" of your multi-tasking life."

And what does this have to do with 9/11?

 
At 11 August, 2010 17:38, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...Come on bill, show us youre [SIC] not a billshitter [SIC] and provide "proof" of your multi-tasking life."

Want proof that I'm not a "billshitter"?

Count the number of times you've caught me lying.

Answer: Zero.

 
At 11 August, 2010 18:09, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...When is bill going to come out of the closet and show us some of his groovy tunes."

Why would anyone in his right mind reveal his identity to Brian Good?

After all, Brian Good is a known stalker, pederast and pervert.

 
At 11 August, 2010 19:10, Blogger Billman said...

Pfft.. GuitarBill knows how to reach me when HE chooses to. Not at the whims of Brian Good, the stalker.

 
At 11 August, 2010 19:17, Blogger Billman said...

Besides... I've posted my personal contact info so much, it's almost ridiculous that you've never noticed, Brian.

And also, you yourself have contacted me on youtube here and there. It's not like many of us here don't have some sort of connection with each other outside this place. So your fake attempt at incredulity about this is... stupid.

 
At 11 August, 2010 19:32, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Pat,

Check it out. As I predicted, Brian Good admits that he's deliberately trashing ScrewLooseChange with off-topic commentary.

What more do you need, Pat?

Ban the son-of-a-bitch.

 
At 11 August, 2010 22:19, Anonymous Bill'sLeftTit said...

Accept no substitutes! Only certified engraved DNA-tested Anonymous posts allowed!

 
At 11 August, 2010 23:41, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Besides... I've posted my personal contact info so much, it's almost ridiculous that you've never noticed, Brian."

Why, Billman, that's because I'm not Brian. Now was that feat of inductive logic so hard? I never communicated with you outside of SLC, unless you know who I am (which is not Brian) and recognize somehow from elsewhere. Under which alias did I approach you elsewhere? If it's me, I'll say so.

 
At 12 August, 2010 00:28, Anonymous Anonymous said...

By the way, it's pretty annoying that Brian Good gets all the credit all the time. Nevertheless, I'm staying anonymous.

 
At 12 August, 2010 00:39, Anonymous troyfromwierdestvagina said...

I still say it's an inside jobby job, and I'm the smartest guy in the room--and my court-appointed therapist says so.

 
At 12 August, 2010 06:44, Blogger Billman said...

Brian, you're the only one who comes in here and denies who he is...

 
At 12 August, 2010 07:07, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No Billman, I just take pleasure in pointing out, repeatedly, in fact, as much as possible, the persistent delusion that anyone can know who "anonymous" is, let alone that I am "Brian Good", a dumb accusation based on delusional paranoia that I can only describe as laughable.

You are using what so many of you describe as truther logic, and you don't even see the irony.

 
At 12 August, 2010 07:13, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...By the way, it's pretty annoying that Brian Good gets all the credit all the time. Nevertheless, I'm staying anonymous."

The credit for what? Losing "debate" after "debate"? The credit for quote mining and lying like a rug? Or making an ass of yourself on a daily basis?

Take your pick and I'll happily give you "credit", Brian.

 
At 12 August, 2010 07:15, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...You are using what so many of you describe as truther logic, and you don't even see the irony."

No, we would never infringe on your "truther logic" copyright, Brian.

 
At 12 August, 2010 07:17, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...Why, Billman, that's because I'm not Brian."

I'll take New Yorkers word over the "word" of a compulsive liar any day.

 
At 12 August, 2010 07:56, Blogger Billman said...

"Anonymous"... if you're NOT Brian Good, then why did you respond to my last post, which was clearly directed at him?

 
At 12 August, 2010 08:11, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"Billman said...
"Anonymous"... if you're NOT Brian Good, then why did you respond to my last post, which was clearly directed at him?"

Ummm....because he has the brainpower of a retarded marmoset?

 
At 12 August, 2010 09:06, Blogger Billman said...

LL, I just found it ironic that he was just whining about everyone here using "troofer logic," and then doing something dumb and transparent like that.

 
At 12 August, 2010 09:14, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brian is a logic cesspool.

 

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