Birds of a Feather...
Box Boy Richard Gage is flush with excitement after making a presentation. Where? Let's let him tell us:
AE911Truth was flown into Jamaica earlier this month to present the evidence for the explosive destruction of the three WTC skyscrapers to their top 250 associates. Why? Wealth Masters International is a company of 20,000 associates seeking to build and maintain their wealth in the face of a declining economy and the largest wealth transfer in history.
So I Googled Wealth Masters International, and look at two of the related searches that Google suggests:
Hmmmm, "scam" and "rip off"? Those certainly are not good signs. Here's a review of the company, with some warnings, and a 2-star (out of a possible 5 stars) rating:
The Wealth Masters business is promoted as a direct sales model, but the compensation plan is a multi-level plan consisting of only two levels. Combined with the quota requirement to continuously recruit new members in order to continue to receive the second level income precludes the ability to build a real business that will provide a residual income.
Reading the review, it appears that you have to pay for seminars that teach some financial management skills. The way you earn money is by selling others on taking those same seminars.
Box Boy reports his usual terrific results:
Before the presentation to 250 attendees, 55 believed the Official Conspiracy Theory, which believes that the planes and fires brought down the towers, and 40 were unsure. Afterwards none believed the OCT and only 7 were unsure.
It's certainly interesting to learn that even before the presentation, there were 155 crackpots in the audience.
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Pat wrote, "...Reading the review, it appears that you have to pay for seminars that teach some financial management skills. The way you earn money is by selling others on taking those same seminars."
Pat,
Let me chime in before the rectum robbing troll for 9/11 troof, Brian Good (aka, Rectum Robber the Reprehensible), decides to trash the thread.
I could be wrong, of course, but the aforementioned "business model" sounds like a Ponzi scheme.
Box Boy wrote, "...Afterwards none believed the OCT and only 7 were unsure."
Yup, propaganda is powerful stuff--and especially so when you're a con artiste ala, Richard Gage.
%^)
I'm exhausted; however, I'll elaborate on this interesting phenomenon tomorrow.
Have a pleasant evening, Pat.
Reading the review, it appears that you have to pay for seminars that teach some financial management skills. The way you earn money is by selling others on taking those same seminars.
That's exactly what it is. This approach makes the pyramid scammers harder to prosecute, because their product is information, whose value (or lack thereof) can be difficult to prove.
And those seminars are crazy expensive:
At the second level, M2, purchasers attend an intensive four days of training, education and networking in a luxury location. Featured speakers include well known success coaches and marketing trainers, and even a billionaire. The aim of the event is to further education for business success, and to develop entrepreneurial skills. This comes with a $8995 price tag.
So Richard Gage's little presentation is being passed off as life lessons from a "success coach", to people who paid $9,000 for the privilege.
Well why not? The scam that is 9/11 "Truth" is dying off, so they need to latch on to and leech money from other scams just to maintain their laughable "successes" for us to laugh at...
" half of the audience seemed to be in a state of shock..."
Yes, upon realising how much they'd paid to listen to crazed conspiracy theories masquerading as "truth". The other half had dozed off, or managed to slip out.
"Fascinated attendees pepper Mr Gage with questions..."
Rotten fruit sounds more appropriate.
"Before the presentation to 250 attendees, 55 believed the Official Conspiracy Theory, which believes that the planes and fires brought down the towers, and 40 were unsure. Afterwards none believed the OCT and only 7 were unsure. "
The sneaky troofer method is to ask well after the lecture when most people have left, and the rest don't want to interact with the loonies. "How many still believe the official theory?" Anyone who doesn't answer is presumed to be a troofer.
So if I posted on the Internet that the moon is made of blue cheese, and only 10 posts disagreed, the other billions of Internet users must agree: the moon is made of blue cheese!
Oh, good point on the sleight of hand Gage uses to indicate a strong conversion rate, Anonymous! I had not thought about it that way, but if all 55 of the "OCT" supporters and 33 of the unsure walked out (not at all unlikely) before the end of the presentation, Gage would be able to report the same "success" even though he had failed to change the mind of a single person.
Excellent comment!
"would be able to report the same "success" even though he had failed to change the mind of a single person." Pat Churlatan
You mean the way your speculative, un-sourced nonsense changes minds, Pat? Still looking for those calculations?
"Depending on which way they toppled they could easily have hit either building or even both; the Spire was at least 50-60 stories high." -Pat's Toppling Logic
(after previously stating the columns were 'pushed down')
"The iron microspheres reported in the RJ Lee report could easily have been caused by the steelworkers using acetylene torches on the steel during the rescue operation."
-Pat the Inquisitive Pretengineer.
No sources, evidence, or math required, hey Pat?
Box Boy wrote, "...Many had stated that they would be providing donations to our 501(c)3 non-profit organization -- via the donation envelopes that we now pass out at all of our functions."
[Rolls eyes skyward]
Another example of fraud perpetrated by the con artists who staff ae911troof.
As I understand the situation, ae911troof is incorporated in California as a "non-profit corporation", they are not--I repeat not--a "non-profit organization" with alleged 501(c)(3) status (make no mistake, there's a big difference).
In fact, ae911troof is in league with the Agape Foundation for the purpose of providing their donors (read marks) tax deductible status. Thus, it's impossible to pursue the source of ae911troof's loot. So who "finances" ae911troof? Who knows. But I'd sure like to know who bankrolls their misinformation psy-op.
So, why has ae911troof never filed for 501(c)(3) status with the IRS? Again, who knows.
Are the troofers, moreover, afraid their source of "finance" might become public knowledge? What are the con artists who staff ae911troof trying to hide? Again, who knows. But I'm sure whatever they're trying so desperately to hide is a major league blockbuster.
The limp-wrist lavender boy prattles, "...You mean the way your speculative, un-sourced nonsense changes minds, Pat? Still looking for those calculations?"
Still working on how to derive a simple kinematic equation--you pixie pink pouffe?
Go play in the freeway--you screaming-fairy.
And remember, I'm just askin' questions...
"...it’s unconscionable the way that they lied to the commissioners there,you know, I mean, that was uhh, youknow, something that they should have considered referring for criminal indictments, uh.. since they were under oath." -Pat Mumbley, on NORAD's changing accounts
"...we see the investigations that’ve been so far is just more or less a cover up, and no real explanation of what went on." -Ron Paul, on 9/11.
Gold: Pat, You don’t know any more than I do why they lied, we just know that they did lie.
Curley: correct.
That was a debate, right Pat?
Quote mining again--you rectum raping rodent?
The rectum robber prevaricates, "...That was a debate, right Pat?"
What would you know about "debate", miss boy the faux femme?
About as much as you understand about the specifics of EDX I presume--you prattling meat browner.
Pat Curley, feigning ignorance on the available provenance of Jones' dust samples:
"I have heard that there were 4, and, you know the one other one that I actually heard was from a guy who collected them off of a uhhh iron railing on a uhh fence." -Pat Ludicrous
Pat's source is now 'what he heard'...then he followed with this gem:
"Where is the chain of custody for these samples, you know I mean it-it-it- it’s something that was sitting in someone’s garage or something that was sitting somewhere else?"
“Somewhere else”??? How could a sample of ANYTHING sit SOMEWHERE ELSE? I think you've blown something wide open, Pat... and we all know what it is. Again.
Look! The brain-dead troll for 9/11 troof has his little pink panties in a ruffle.
Choked down any man-meat lately, muffie?
Since GB keeps derailing the thread, I'd like to return to Pat's questioning of Gage's associations.
So Pat: how do you think your association with Troy has helped the effectiveness of your arguments?
"Troy is my buddy from West Virginia"
-Pat Buddy
"America can kiss my ass"
-Troy Sexton
"Fuck America" -Troy Sexton
So, have you read MrCrone's reference book The Particle Atlas yet--you degenerate derrière deviate?
Tell us more about the accuracy of EDX when detecting oxygen and nitrogen--you lily livered lizzie.
The simpering shit slot dissembles, "...Since GB keeps derailing the thread, I'd like to return to Pat's questioning of Gage's associations."
Tell us, troll, how do your comments relate to Pat's OP--you bonobo bunghole?
You'd lie to your live-in mommy, wouldn't you--you sickeningly sweet swisher?
The prevaricating poofter prattles, "...So Pat: how do you think your association with Troy has helped the effectiveness of your arguments?"
About as much as your association with Liberace--you prevaricating sphincter proder.
Anonymous go "fuck my sister" for all the rat's ass I will give. You're a moron.
YOUR ON TOPIC POSTS:
Anonymous go "fuck my sister" for all the rat's ass I will give. -Illman.
What a strange thing to say... Does your sister know you say things like this about her?
"So, have you read MrCrone's reference book The Particle Atlas yet--you degenerate derrière deviate?" -BumbleBitch
I think Pat has read it. You can tell by his iron-solid arguments.
So let me get this straight... Pat allowing Troy to comment (just like he allows you morons to comment) means he's associating with him, and that association somehow proves a 9/11 conspiracy?
Let's ignore facts and focus on associations we dissaprove of! Bush blew up the towers!!!!
Why not.. its the same bullshit you fucktards have always said..
I kind of miss when Jon Gol would come in here to whine and then run away like a little bitch the second anyone pointed out a fact that debunked the currnent thing he was whining about.
You're all babies. Waaaaah!
You mean my non-existant sister that you imagineered up when I quoted Full Metal Jacket, and like to attribute as a serious quote I stated?
I don't think she really cares...
"So let me get this straight... Pat allowing Troy to comment (just like he allows you morons to comment) means he's associating with him..."
-Illman the Observant
Does Pat call you 'buddy', Shillman? No? Does this hurt you inside?
"a fact that debunked the currnent [SIC]thing he was whining about." Shrillboy
And I KNOW you're about to provide a source for this, tough guy. We all know it.
"Waaaaah!" -Shillman
sounds about right. For GB too.
The dokus faux femme prattles, "...I think Pat has read it. You can tell by his iron-solid arguments."
Tell us about "rock solid arguments"--you left-handed lick-box. After all, we know how much you crave all things "rock solid".
Tell us more about the accuracy of EDX when detecting oxygen and nitrogen--you brain-dead pee pee-pulling pederast.
And remember, I'm just askin' questions...
Pfft... No. Why do you care? Does my "association" (which consist of what, 2 posts with a hat tip?) with Pat prove a 9/11 conspiracy?
Oh damn! Better call the FBI and get me arrested for 9/11 inside jobby job jobber jobness!
Troy is my buddy from West Virginia. -- GuitarBill.
Got it, flamer bitch?
Yeah, the source is called the "acrhives of this very blog." I'm sorry the neurons in your brain couldn't connect together to realize the obvious... but then again, you're an internet troll..
The porking sword carnivore whines, "...Does Pat call you 'buddy', Shillman? No? Does this hurt you inside?"
Billman is my buddy from Nevada -- GuitarBill
Got it--you defective donut puncher?
I'm just being literal with semantics... I have a half-sister. And she thinks my "obsession" with 9/11 and how much I hate The Twilight series and it's author are a source of great comedy.
But hey, I can be Brian Good and pretend I never said the things I say, also.
I can be Billman and claim I never said what I never said, too.
INSIDE JOB!
Oh look, Billman admits it's an inside job. I bet the weasel tries to deny he ever said it, too.
Isn't it "cute" when the butt bumping homo, Brian Good, plays sock puppet?
"GuitarBill said...
Isn't it "cute" when the butt bumping homo, Brian Good, plays sock puppet?"
Wait.
You mean to say that brian good shoves his hand up his own ass?
LL wrote, "...You mean to say that brian good shoves his hand up his own ass?"
ROTFLMAO!
Gage appears before an audience of marks and convinces almost all of them. Color me unimpressed as well.
What's this fascination with asses, GayTardBill? Your wife's holding out on you, eh?
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Brian (aka, Rectum Robber the Reprehensible), why don't you give us a lecture on EDX? After all, in accordance with troofer tradition, you know nothing about EDX (or anything else, for that matter); thus, you're an "expert". Right--you flip-side flower faux femme?
...? Does he actually think that works?
Anyway.. fine, I'll play along. 9/11 is an inside job... but but but, I thought no troofer would actually dare to say that.
"I'm reticant about using the term 'inside job" - Dylan Avery, who ironically said in Loose Change "its obvious 9/11 was an inside job."
I get it, the troofer way: take me by what I say, until it's used against me and my point backfires, then take me by what I mean until its used against me and my point backfires, then take me by what I said the first time.
And you morons never realize when anyone here does that, that they're trollng because you, like clockwork, will flip out and start sock-puppeing up a storm... heh.
So pathetically predictable and easy to provoke into doing something retarded.
Why won't anyone let Pat himself answer for the REALLY STUPID things he says? He's a big boy, kids, let him defend his...unique grasp of physics and math.
C'mon Pat, show us you have more than nonsense and 'uuuhh...you know I mean....could EASILY explain...uhh...ice cream movement....you know I mean...'
*Head Explodes in Unneccessary Anger over an Anonymous Comment*
The bunghole bent back door bandit bloviates, "...let him defend his...unique grasp of physics and math."
That's rich--and especially so when spoken by a pseudo-science peddling troofer.
Interveiwer: so Dylan, tell me what you're trying to do by making several versions of the same film..
Dylan Avery: "Are you just trying to get sound bytes?! Yaaaargh! Whine! Bitchfit! you're in the media, so you should investigate every wild claim I make up! Find me the albino Unicorn of Zanthar! Have you heard of the Manhattan Project?! That means 9/11 was an inside job! Though, I won't ever use the term "inside job" outside of my movies!"
Interviewer: uh... ok. Jason Bermas, care to elaborate?
Jason Bermas: "Fuck you! You liar!"
Interviewer: wow, what a cockbag you are to someone you've never met before. What about you, Jon Gold?
Jon Gold: "I'd like to start by asking you, don't you think the family members deserve to have this interview dedicated to them?"
Interviewer: "uh.. sure, but does that actually mean anything to them?"
Stephen Jones: "Elvis and Jesus were the same person!"
Interviewer: "ok, fuck this.. I wonder what Lindsay is doing."
Sock-puppeting is fun!
Don't quit your day job.
...says I, the internet's dedicated Day Job investigator.
"...Brian Good has lost his Brain."
Did he ever have one?
And remember, I'm just askin' questions...
how do you think your association with Troy has helped the effectiveness of your arguments?
And you asked that question on a thread about 9-11 Truthers presenting at pyramid scheme seminars?
From Gage's website:
Before the presentation to 250 attendees, 55 believed the Official Conspiracy Theory. Afterwards none believed the OCT and only 7 were unsure.
The real question is, how many people realized after the presentation they'd been chumped out of $9,000. In an audience of 250, I'm sure that little breakout session pushed somebody over the edge.
Which would mean something staggering to the human race... we have discovered is a positive social use for 9-11 Truth. Its presence discredits the other slimy organizations who associate with them.
How about that?
Don't quit your day job.
At least Bill has a day job.
Guitard Bills internet cost
$5.00 month(dial-up)
GB`s liquor
$2.00(rot-gut)
Bill`s use of homo lames
Priceless (NOT)
Brain (aka, Rectum Robber the Reprehensible), you're about as funny as a fart in a spacesuit.
GayTardBull, you'd best leave the cleverness to those who are equipped for it.
"...who brought AE911Truth to this annual conference in order to give their followers very sensitive information that few other Wall Street gurus dare to understand or to provide."
Man, I love this shit.
9/10
"What will be your role?"
Enjoying the comedy.
The perthy penis-petal pimp pontificates, "...GayTardBull, you'd best leave the cleverness to those who are equipped for it."
Right, shit slot.
Why don't you take a moment from your hectic masturbation schedule and lecture us on EDX.
LOL! Good work, jackass. If you had brains you'd be dangerous.
You're too stupid for words--you painted willy peter eater.
One thing I do not underestimate however, is the effect on a newbie audience.
The evidence they present is compelling, and delivered with utmost sincerity.
Backed up with comments from professors, experts and researchers, it IS compelling.
Unfortunately, the problem is that we are not accustomed to listening to pathological liars, and so the fact that their 'evidence' is rubbish, as are their 'experts' and 'researchers', is completely unknown.
At the very least, most people would finish a truther harangue of distorted reality with (at least) believing the truthers have a point.
The question is how many of those newbies, once they have even superficially checked out the opposing view, would still support them.
Very few, but the truthers do not care - they are after the small percentage of mentally ill who are as dysfunctional as they.
Ultimately, all the truthers do is make troubled people even worse, and along the way are used by anti-semites, nazis, and the like for their own good.
I do enjoy their self-parody, but it comes at a price.
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GuitarBill,
Actually, as of this year, AE911Liars have now received their 501C3 status. We shall see how much they are paying Box Boy sometime next year.
you'd best leave the cleverness to those who are equipped for it.
This from a guy who made a "priceless" joke? In 2010?
Triterope wrote, "...This from a guy who made a 'priceless' joke? In 2010?"
ROTFLMAO!
Come on, Triterope, give the tiny-brained assleech a break.
After all, he's a psychopath, homosexual degenerate and an Alzheimer's disease outpatient.
That's an endearing combination, wouldn't you agree? I'll bet the limp-wristed cornhole connoisseur makes a virtually infinite number of "friends" and influences an enormous amount of people, too.
%^)
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Yo!
I found the following hyperlink, on Rense.com, to an obscure op-ed article; thus; we all know the "intrepid" and "well researched" op-ed will hold a great deal of weight with the conspiranoid theory crowd. Right?
After all, Jeff "the wig" Rense is held in high esteem by the misinformation imbibing conspiranoid theory true believers. Right?
Source: moneyteachers.org: Are Homosexuals Psychopaths? by Paul A. Drockton M.A.
And remember, I'm just askin' questions...
Pat & James....its sad to see this blog devolve into the rants of a couple of immature individuals. Guitar Bill who rarely makes a comment without attacking the character has completely ruined the reputation and the legitimacy of this blog as well as debunkers in general. I sent several of my co-workers here with regards to the debunking material you sometimes post. When they started to read the comments, they were simply appalled by the comments section. Afterwards, the jokes came flying about the people posting and the lack of professionalism etc. I tried to counter with the freedom of speech and all of that when they said, go check other news blogs and how they are ran. I couldn't argue what they were saying of course and simply lost another 9/11 debate with some folks who doubted the official story.
Brian, do you honestly believe that anyone falls for your sock puppet nonsense?
Would you like to know who's trashing the blog? The answer is simple: Brian Good.
Tell us, what do you gain by stalking Pat and James? What do you gain by trolling EVERY thread and posting off-topic nonsense?
You're sick. Seek psychiatric intervention. Or better yet, go straight to Hell.
Frustrated Debunker, you sound like a troofer. Only a troofer believes this opinionated and biased BLOG run by a mere two individuals, is somehow the Debunker H.Q. when it is NOT. Pat and James can post whatever they want, because it is a BLOG, and they have allowed anyone else, including troofers, to post comments.
Now, if you want actual information that debunks 9/11 truth claims, goto 911myths.com or debunking911.com, or check out Mark Robert's Loose Change Viewer Guide for starters...
Oh, hey, did you notice that everything I said in the above paragraph is on THE FIRST POST AT THE TOP OF THE MAIN PAGE?
Oh, you didn't bother to read that and instead decided to tune it out so you can make some kind of a political statement about how the mean ol' dummybunkers that frequent here hurt your feelings when they call a stupid troofer stupid?
Aweee.
Goto JREF. I hear they are more civilized (on both side) over there. But, its moderated. You can't call someone a "girl" or a "weasel" over there for not agreeing with you. You have to (gasp) be civil.
Bill,
"Frustrated Debunker" is Brian Good.
Make no mistake, Brian Good is beneath contempt. He'd lie to his mother if he thought he could gain an advantage from the lie.
GB, I know. It's pretty obvious. That's why I threw in Brian's favorite words "girl" and "weasel" in there.
"Frustrated Debunker said...
Pat & James....its sad to see this blog devolve into the rants of a couple of immature individuals. Guitar Bill who rarely makes a comment without attacking the character has completely ruined the reputation and the legitimacy of this blog as well as debunkers in general."
Projection, it's not just for breakfast any more!
" I sent several of my co-workers here with regards to the debunking material you sometimes post."
sniff sniff
I smell.....sockpuppet!
"When they started to read the comments, they were simply appalled by the comments section. Especially that retarded marmoset, brian good. "What a fucktard" they said "What a
maroon!""
"I sent several of my co-workers here with regards to the debunking material you sometimes post."
That was your first, and biggest mistake, fool.
"Afterwards, the jokes came flying about the people posting and the lack of professionalism etc."
This is impossible. Pat is a true professional. Professional fraud and liar, yes, but you can't knock his professionalism, buddy. That's over the line. Ask GBile about professionalism, too. He's been hooking for decades now.
Talking to yourself, Mr. Sock Puppet?
Seek psychiatric intervention.
Has there ever been anything quite as obsequious and lapdoggish as the moron Bilbo piping in his weaselly support for the increasingly ludicrous Dickflicker from California?
It must really hurt to take an ass whoopin' from "the increasingly ludicrous Dickflicker [SIC] from California". Right, ArseHooligan?
I'm not from California, stooge, I was born in Texas.
Face it, troofers are no match for me, and they never will be.
Cry me a river, ArseHooligan.
Sorry,got your tag wrong,Dogboy.I thought I had "Dickflicker" spelled right.How do you prefer it,jackoff?
What's the matter Gordo, you couldn't hack Texas?
What's the matter, Brian, you couldn't hack junior college?
Oh my, aren't we touchy? What makes you think Brian couldn't hack junior college?
Because he claims to have attended music theory classes in junior college. However, when I asked him an elementary question about mixolydian mode, his answer was wrong--dead wrong.
In addition, I'm a bit of a sleuth; thus, I know more about Brian Good than he knows about himself.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Brian should sue Foothill College for malpractice.
Wow, you've got a major hardon for Brian Good! What's the problem? Did he seduce your wife while you were busy bragging about yourself on the internet?
Tell us more Mr. Quote Mining Pathological Lair.
Conversed with any plankton lately, Brian?
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