Why Don't These Guys Ever Realize That They Are Innocent?
Won't stop the Truthers from making claims of innocence of course. The convenient thing about non-falsifiable beliefs.
A Nigerian man pleaded guilty Wednesday to trying to bring down a jetliner with a bomb in his underwear, defiantly telling a federal judge that he acted in retaliation for the killing of Muslims worldwide and referring to the failed explosive as a "blessed weapon."
Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, who acknowledged working for al-Qaida and never denied the allegations, entered the plea against his attorney's advice on the second day of his trial. He stands to get a mandatory life sentence for the 2009 attack that aimed to kill nearly 300 people on Christmas Day in the skies above Detroit.
Abdulmutallab calmly answered the judge's questions and read a political statement warning that if the United States continues "to persist and promote the blasphemy of Muhammad and the prophets," it risks "a great calamity ... through the hands of the mujahedeen soon."
posted by James B. @ 7:26 PM
76 comments
76 Comments:
I don't think anyone, not even Kevin Barrett, has said that Mr. Abdulmutallab was innocent.
I don't think anyone, not even Kevin Barrett, has said that Mr. Abdulmutallab was innocent.
Brian, nobody cares what you think of him because you're an unemployed liar who wears women's underwear and who believes magic thermite elves destroyed the world trade center.
Do you have any proof that anyone has said he's innocent? Is this just more baseless, sourceless bullshit from you, playing "ascribe-the-trait" to make yourself feel better? When no one claims he's innocent, will you retract this foolishness, or let it stand as yet another example of your inaccurate assessments? Are you deliberately avoiding the difficult questions about 'well-dressed man', or the man in orange who was led away in cuffs? Are those just 'anomalies' that aren't really facts to you?
Don't bother answering: I'm sure GB and the other scholars will do it for you.
Ian, you lie and lie and lie.
Hey moron, the mouth breathers at 911 blogger and other places have been going on for months about how he was framed, entrapped or done sport of vaguely defined patsie. The fact that they refuse to actually take a stand as to what specifically they are arguing, as they do on most things, is not an argument in their favor.
Ian, you lie and lie and lie.
Stop lying, Brian.
Err, some sort. Freaking droid auto spell...
James B., who exactly at 911blogger said he was framed? Quoting some anonymous commenteer at blogger as a representative of the truth movement is like quoting Ian as a representative debunker. Would you like people saying "The debunkers believe that there are no 9/11 widows"?
"Hey moron, the mouth breathers at 911 blogger and other places have been going on for months about how he was framed, entrapped or done sport of vaguely defined patsie. The fact that they refuse to actually take a stand as to what specifically they are arguing, as they do on most things, is not an argument in their favor." -JamesBitch
So you have no proof of your claim whatsoever. Got it. Why not just admit it, coward? Nice dodge on all the other facts you're obviously avoiding as you form your 'narrative', too. Jimbo fails again on his own blog. Don't hurt your back pulling your pants back up.
Would you like people saying "The debunkers believe that there are no 9/11 widows"?
Brian, debunkers are people who deal in the real world where there were actual consequences of the attack, namely, a lot of women who lost husbands, aka "widows".
9/11 truthers are the ones who deal in fantasies like death ray beams from space, modified attack baboons, spray-on nanothermite, and holographic planes.
Squealing to James about me doesn't change these facts.
This comment has been removed by the author.
Ian, I deal in the real world where there are victims and the laws of physics and people putting their careers on the line.
You lie and lie and lie about elves and attack baboons. Dr. Deagle's nonsense has never gotten any traction whatsoever in the truth movement. You're such an idiot you believe the tales of the blatant con artist Willie Rodriguez.
I'm not squealing to James about you. I'm complaining to James about James. You are just a case in point, you're not the subject of the criticism at all.
Ian, I deal in the real world where there are victims and the laws of physics and people putting their careers on the line.
No you don't. You babble about spray-on nanothermite and pyroclastic flows.
Dr. Deagle's nonsense has never gotten any traction whatsoever in the truth movement.
Dr. Deagle is a respected physician who has hundreds of people come to listen to him. You're a failed janitor who was expelled from the truth movement. I think we can put your claims about Dr. Deagle in the same pile of lies as your claims about Willie Rodriguez.
You're such an idiot you believe the tales of the blatant con artist Willie Rodriguez.
See what I mean?
I'm not squealing to James about you. I'm complaining to James about James. You are just a case in point, you're not the subject of the criticism at all.
False, false, and false.
Brian, your lies about me are as funny as your lies about Laurie Van Auken.
Yes, I am fully aware of the "No true Truther fallacy" where no truther is in anyway representative of the movement, thus nobody can ever be held accountable for any action.
LOL!
"Yes, I am fully aware of the "No true Truther fallacy" where no truther blah blah blah"
hmmm... still no proof that anyone thinks the guy is innocent. No mention of any other salient facts. It's so easy to get you and Pat to shut the fuck up about the important things, huh Jimbo?
This comment has been removed by the author.
Would the self-appointed 9/11 Troofers defend Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab?!?!?!?!?!?
Nah, that would never happen...
Nah, the self-appointed 9/11 troofers would never accuse the US government of "staging 'terrorist' plots." Nor would the self-appointed 9/11 troofers accuse the US government of "entrapment" with respect to Abdulmutallab's case.
Nah. :)
Once again, you FAIL, goat fucker (aka, "Pat Cowardly").
This comment has been removed by the author.
The goat fucker dissembles, "...James B., who exactly at 911blogger said he was framed?"
What's this, goat fucker?
Will Court Case Reveal a False Flag Event?
"...Kurt and Lori Haskell continue to post updates about the Flight 253 Christmas Day underwear bomber court case. In this video interview, Kurt talks about an 'Entrapment Defense'."
Once again, you FAIL, goat fucker.
No mention of any other salient facts.
The salient facts are well settled. The debunkers have won.
"Pat Cowardly" (aka, the goat fucker) squeals, "...I'm sure GB and the other scholars will do it for you."
So what were you saying, Mr. Al Qeada Apologist?
%^)
I can't tell you how much better I sleep at night knowing that a third rate "intellect" like the goat fucker is doing the "fact checking." After all, he has a [cough] "scientific reputation" to uphold. Of course, I suppose there's nothing strange or contradictory about the goat fucker's continued insistence that his commentary is forthright and accurate when the record clearly shows the opposite. Move along folks, nothing to see here...
I wonder why James had to shut the fuck up on this thread? He had so many sources...so much evidence! Now GB is trying to clean up after him, but it's too messy. How sad.
Join us again when you have something to say, Jimmy.
Part of the reason these conspiracy theories are so wide spread is that they serve the same agenda that elites have: misdirect the public away from the motive for the attacks.
Look at the reporting on these stories and the underwear bomber is the latest example. There is a strong pattern of omitting the main motive in MANY of the news stories INCLUDING the one posted here and the article it links to. BASIC journalism says you report WHY. Look at the pattern of what is happening here. Conspiracy theories serve the same agenda that many powerful elites have: misdirect away from this: see video: Underwear Bomber was retaliating for U.S. support of Israel & killing of innocent Muslims
There is a strong pattern of omitting "U.S. support of Israel" from news stories.
The 2 top 9/11 commissioners ADMIT what their top concern was: that the public might reassess the policy of supporting Israel:
Commissioners "rejected mentioning the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in the report. In their view, listing U.S. support for Israel as a root cause of al Qaeda's opposition to the United States indicated that the United States should reassess that policy."
Hey Tom, can you let Brian and Pat Cowardly know that al Qaeda was responsible for the attacks? They think magic thermite elves destroyed the towers.
Also, who doesn't know that US support for Israel was a major grievance of al Qaeda? While I'm troubled by uncritical support of Israel and am horrified by a lot of actions that country takes, does anyone really think that if Israel were to withdraw completely from the West Bank (as I wish it would do), al Qaeda would decide they don't want to attack us anymore?
"Conspiracy theories serve the same agenda that many powerful elites have: misdirect away from this: see video: Underwear Bomber was retaliating for U.S. support of Israel & killing of innocent Muslims
There is a strong pattern of omitting "U.S. support of Israel" from news stories."
The idiot in question was Nigerian. Suppose for a second that I wander into a pre-school with an explosive vest and kill a bunch of kids. I leave a letter explaining that my act was in protest of US support for Israel. Does this legitimize my act? Even if I blow up a pre-school in Israel how am I justified?
Underwear bomber didn't try to bring down an El Al plane. He tried to blow up a plane to Detroit carrying more than a few innocent Muslims along with the infedels.
In short, he is an asshole. Israel had nothing to do with anything. He'd never been to the West Bank or Israel. Had never been victimized by Israel, and is the son of a wealthy Nigerian banker.
This was not about Israel, it's about a self-righteous rich kid being a douche bag.
"Ian, you lie and lie and lie."
Truth stings, eh, boron, you retartded marmoset?
"Would you like people saying "The debunkers believe that nobody cares about the 9/11 widows"?
At least it'd be true.
This comment has been removed by the author.
Lies annoy. Only the truth hurts.
Truth stings the debunkers (though they're more like deyuck-yuck-yuckers than debunkers.
Try some truth and see if it stings me.
Lies annoy. Only the truth hurts.
Truth stings the debunkers (though they're more like deyuck-yuck-yuckers than debunkers.
English, please.
Try some truth and see if it stings me.
Let's see....you're an unemployed janitor. You were thrown out of AE911Truth for stalking Carol Brouillet. You were banned from Wikipedia for vandalizing the pages of the Chinese gymnastics team. You challenged Willie Rodriguez to a debate but then ran away from it when he accepted.
And I know based on your inevitable squealing response to the above that it stings.
This comment has been removed by the author.
This comment has been removed by the author.
You don't know what yuck-yuck-yuck means? Learn to speak American.
You lie and lie and lie and lie. You've got the Willie disease--you've been lying so long you think it's the truth. I am not an unemployed janitor. I was never thrown out of AE911Truth. I did not stalk Carol Brouillet. I never vandalized Wikipedia pages of the Chinese gymnastics team.
Years ago when Willie R was the darling of the truth movement I said I would debate him any time, any where. Years later when the truth movement has recognized that his story is a lie and not even Annie Machon would defend him, I declined to debate him because his cowardly tendency to hide behind women's skirts demanded that debate take place under moderation by responsible psrties. SLC was not such a party. Obviously they wanted to provoke a maximum gossip and maximum damage to the truth movement.
Willie's inability to locate an acceptable neutral sponsor shows him to be an outsider to the truth movement. If he were a truther and I were a truther outcast making irresponsible allegations about him, then he should have no trouble getting a venue for the debate.
One of the moderators of 911blogger offered to moderate a debate, but Willie never followed up on that. There's no debate. I've proven that Willie's claims are lies.
Der Spiegel said Willie's story was probably about 20% true and put a snide headline on the article "Superhero Epic of a Janitor".
Lord of the Troofers Alex Jones has an interesting take on Occupy Wall Street: 'ya see, the globalists (through George Soros, of course) are using commie punks to start false revolution so said globalists can initiate world dictatorship...well, something like that. You have to admit, the guy has a colorful imagination.
Lord of the Troofers Alex Jones has an interesting take on Occupy Wall Street: 'ya see, the globalists (through George Soros, of course) are using commie punks to start false revolution so said globalists can initiate world dictatorship...well, something like that. You have to admit, the guy has a colorful imagination.
What makes it even funnier is that a good number of the protesters down there are Ron Paul fans. I've even seen ones hawking Infowars literature.
You lie and lie and lie and lie. You've got the Willie disease--you've been lying so long you think it's the truth. I am not an unemployed janitor. I was never thrown out of AE911Truth. I did not stalk Carol Brouillet. I never vandalized Wikipedia pages of the Chinese gymnastics team.
The truth stings, Brian. That's why you're squealing and crying about it.
And nobody cares about your obsession with Willie Rodriguez. He's a hero and you're a failed janitor who ran squealing and crying from your own challenge to debate him.
It's obvious that you're very damaged sexually, which is why you lust after him, and after Carol Brouillet, and after the Chinese gymnasts.
Ian, you lie and lie and lie.
Ian, you lie and lie and lie.
Yes, Brian, you've said that already. It still doesn't change the fact that after 10 years, you still don't have a new investigation, still can't get the widows questions answered, and still don't have "meatball on a fork" published in an engineering journal.
I have unanswered questions;
What exactly was the Rock cooking? We've never gotten the truth.
What was the deal with Hanson?
Why did the Occupy Wall Street gang have a momment of silence for Billionaire Steve Jobs?
Why do modern Operating Systems still use a floppy disk for the "Save" icon?
Why isn't Nathan Fillion a bigger star?
None of those have anything to do with 9/11 either.
So there's MGF, disguising his lies as humor--just like a BushBot.
The widows' 273 unanswered questions have everything to do with 9/11.
So there's MGF, disguising his lies as humor--just like a BushBot.
Brian, your bitterness is always hilarious. You've failed, as has the entire 9/11 truth movement, and you still can't let it go.
The widows' 273 unanswered questions have everything to do with 9/11.
False.
Part of the reason these conspiracy theories are so wide spread is that they serve the same agenda that elites have: misdirect the public away from the motive for the attacks.
I agree unconditional American support for Israel is serious motivation for Islamists to want to attack the US. I wouldn't go as far as saying the twoofers are trying to help cover it up. Heck, half those idiots think Israel was in on the attacks. So, while there is good reason to question the cost/benefit equation of our "alliance" with Israel, 9/11 twoofers have nothing to useful to offer in the discussion, nor any other discussion for that matter.
Nothing to offer except groundbreaking reporting in the "Who is Richard Blee" story and in "Disconnecting the Dots".
Leatherlungs follow-up: Yes, though he damns O.W. as a Soros disinformation something-or-other, he has of course tried to leech onto it with something called Occupy the Fed; a more Ron Paul-friendly version, I guess. In the end, Jones is craven opportunist who appealed to the whacko left during the Bush years and now clings to the whacko right under Obama.
FYI Brian:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_Girls
After the 9/11 Commission issued its report, the Jersey Girls pressured the Administration to follow its recommendations. They specifically commended the Commission for not politicizing blame in the report. "The USS Cole was bombed under Clinton's watch, and 9/11 happened under Bush's watch," said Rosemary Dillard. "I don't blame either administration; I blame the people who were reporting to them."
Rosemary Dillard is blaming the people, not the Government.
So what's that about the "Unanswered Questions" from the 9/11 Widows you'd been so despritely lying about??
Of the widows' 300 questions, only 27 were answered.
http://www.justicefor911.org/Appendix4_FSCQuestionRatings_111904.php
Of the widows' 300 questions, only 27 were answered.
Liar, I counted 28.
Of the widows' 300 questions, only 27 were answered.
http://www.justicefor911.org/Appendix4_FSCQuestionRatings_111904.php
Nobody cares.
So Ian, when some of us are calling for the government to be honest and open about what happened, you're spending enormous energies arguing that government is inherently dishonest and secretive, it always has been and always will be, and that's how it ought to be. Look at yourself. You must be a very unhappy person.
" when some of us are calling for the government to be honest and open about what happened,"
...but that's not what you want at all. You want kangaroo courts and witch hunts where the verdict has been predetermined.
You are not interested in justice in any shape or form. You demand the government be held to unreasonable, and inconsistant standards. None of whuch you are personally willing to be held to yourself.
You've stalked and harrassed Carol Brouillet, and you harrass Willie Rodriguez purely because of your hatred of hispanics. You squeal about rights while you directly assualt the rights of innocent people yourself.
Get help.
MGF, you're just projecting yourself on me. You don't know what I want.
I didn't take on the responsibility to protect this country from attack, or the responsibility to undertake official investigations of the attacks. If I had, I would expect to be held accountable.
You are repeating lies. I haven't stalked and harassed Carol Brouillet and she doesn't say I did. I don't hate hispanics. I worked for the UFWOC before you were born, and I've worked with migrant farmworkers in the fields.
" didn't take on the responsibility to protect this country from attack, or the responsibility to undertake official investigations of the attacks."
No suprise, responsibility is not one of your strong points.
"If I had, I would expect to be held accountable. "
No you wouldn't. You don't take responsibility for all the evil you're known for causing. You don't take responisbility for the the things that you say here.
"I haven't stalked and harassed Carol Brouillet and she doesn't say I did."
Except she did say you did. You don't take responsibility.
"I don't hate hispanics."
Yes, yes you do. Unlike your ex-troofer friends I don't think you had a crush on Willie, and then turned on him because of a broken heart. You don't have a heart. You're a sociopath.
" I worked for the UFWOC before you were born,"
The key here is "Worked"...past tense. It's safe to assume they asked you to leave too.
So Ian, when some of us are calling for the government to be honest and open about what happened, you're spending enormous energies arguing that government is inherently dishonest and secretive, it always has been and always will be, and that's how it ought to be. Look at yourself. You must be a very unhappy person.
My, such squealing!
So Brian, you have lots of evidence that the government hasn't been open and honest about 9/11, right?
I haven't stalked and harassed Carol Brouillet and she doesn't say I did. I don't hate hispanics. I worked for the UFWOC before you were born, and I've worked with migrant farmworkers in the fields.
Stop lying, Brian.
Well, I guess he could be telling the truth about working in the fields. I mean, what other employer would want Brian besides one who needs tomatoes picked? I guess eventually his rich dad intervened and got him a cushy job mopping floors.
MGF, you don't know anything about me, so stop making shit up. Carol Brouillet did not say I stalked and harassed her. Your lies are libelous. Cease and desist.
Yes, Ian, I have lots of evidence that the government has not been honest and open about 9/11. The widows' 273 unanswered questions for starters. Condi's perjured testimony. NORAD's lies. Shyam Sunder's lies. NIST's lies.
MGF, you don't know anything about me, so stop making shit up. Carol Brouillet did not say I stalked and harassed her. Your lies are libelous. Cease and desist.
Poor Brian, everyone knows he's a liar who was expelled from the truth movement for stalking Carol Brouillet, and all he can do about it is to threaten free speech.
Typical Bushbot tactics.
Yes, Ian, I have lots of evidence that the government has not been honest and open about 9/11. The widows' 273 unanswered questions for starters. Condi's perjured testimony. NORAD's lies. Shyam Sunder's lies. NIST's lies.
So you have no evidence. Thanks for proving my point.
Ian, you lie and lie and lie and lie and lie. You seem to get some kind of thrill out of it.
Ian, you lie and lie and lie and lie and lie. You seem to get some kind of thrill out of it.
Squeal squeal squeal!
Brian, you can claim that I lie all you want. It will never get you a new investigation. HA HA HA HA HA!!!
So Ian, when some of us are calling for the government to be honest and open about what happened, you're spending enormous energies arguing that government is inherently dishonest and secretive, it always has been and always will be, and that's how it ought to be. Look at yourself. You must be a very unhappy person.
So Ian, when some of us are calling for the government to be honest and open about what happened, you're spending enormous energies arguing that government is inherently dishonest and secretive, it always has been and always will be, and that's how it ought to be. Look at yourself. You must be a very unhappy person.
Poor Brian. He's been pwn3d so badly that he can't even think of a new reply, so he posts the same dumbspam over and over again.
Brian, I'm very happy with my life. I'm handsome and smart and get lots of girls and make lots of money. That's why people listen to me. You're an unemployed janitor who wears women's underwear and stalks people. That's why you get laughed at.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
Ian, since you lie about me I have no doubt that you lie about yourself too. A happy person would not waste his time lying on the internet.
Ian, since you lie about me I have no doubt that you lie about yourself too. A happy person would not waste his time lying on the internet.
Obviously, I'm not lying.
But you're right, a happy person would not waste his time lying on the internet, which I guess explains a lot about you.
I understand, Brian. You're not happy to have no job, no friends, no family...even a fringe conspiracy cult threw you out, and because you've been banned from every truther site out there, you're reduced to posting dumbspam here, where everyone laughs at you.
Obviously, you ARE lying. You lie blatantly claiming there are no widows, they have no questions, that Sunder did not say what he said. You lie about my underwear. You lie about my employment status, you lie about Carol Brouillet. You lie and lie and lie--and the fact that your colleagues on this blog do not call you on it is an indictment of them.
Obviously, you ARE lying.
False.
You lie blatantly claiming there are no widows, they have no questions, that Sunder did not say what he said. You lie about my underwear. You lie about my employment status, you lie about Carol Brouillet. You lie and lie and lie--and the fact that your colleagues on this blog do not call you on it is an indictment of them.
See what I mean? You live in a fantasy world in which you say that this is all lies when it's all true. No wonder you'll never get a new investigation.
Ian, I've never known anyone but an 8-year-old girl who thought that lying blatantly and repeatedly and then lying about the lies was funny.
Ian, I've never known anyone but an 8-year-old girl who thought that lying blatantly and repeatedly and then lying about the lies was funny.
One word to describe Brian's obsession with little girls: PEDOPHILE!
Ian, I've never known anyone but an 8-year-old girl who thought that lying blatantly and repeatedly and then lying about the lies was funny.
And here it is: the moment when Brian's frustrations boil over and he calls people girls.
Thanks Brian, for all your endless hilarity.
You act girly, you get called girly. It's not cute.
You act girly, you get called girly. It's not cute.
Nobody cares what you think, Brian.
But this follows the usual pattern with you: you post something stupid, we all laugh at you and mock you, you get upset, start squealing, and call us "girls".
It's endlessly entertaining.
I didn't call anybody a girl. I called you girly.
I didn't call anybody a girl. I called you girly.
Nobody cares, Brian. The point is, I pwn3d you once again, and you could do nothing but squeal about it.
"I didn't call anybody a girl. I called you girly."
Jason Bermas comment: "I'm not calling anyone a liar, I'm calling you a liar."
Coincidence or is Brian lacking authentic comebacks?
Lying is never pwnage, Ian. In fact it's pathetic.
Lying is never pwnage, Ian. In fact it's pathetic.
Right. I'm not the one lying, you are. Hence I've pwn3d you that badly that all you can do squeal and lie. Yes, it's pathetic, and yet it's also amusing. I find your babbling endlessly hilarious.
You seem to find being contrary amusing. Like a two-year-old.
You seem to find being contrary amusing. Like a two-year-old.
It is amusing. I make you squeal and cry and babble and call people "girls" because you're so upset.
If you were a run-of-the-mill crazy person who believes that aliens from Alpha Centauri were beaming you messages of world peace through your iPhone, I'd leave you alone. However, your insane beliefs are dangerous and evil, so mocking you would be the right thing to do even if it weren't so much fun.
Post a Comment
<< Home