Sunday, November 13, 2011

The Complete Idiot's Guide to Wasting a Decade?

Jon Gold reveals that he's writing a book:
I tried everything else, so I figured I would write one. It's an autobiography, and tells about my experiences over the last decade. The title is a secret. I haven't decided how I'm going to publish it. I haven't decided if I'm going to charge for it. There are a total of 9 chapters. I'm done the first three, and am almost done Chapter 4. Some of them will contain things already written so it shouldn't take too long once 4, 5, and 9 are written. Here is the dedication:
Jon's being a little coy there, not giving away the title. So I thought, why not throw it open to our readers? Come up with a name for Jon's tome. BTW, Jon has managed to dedicate the book to about half the people in the world, and he got Cindy Sheehan to write the "foreward", which made him cry.

154 Comments:

At 13 November, 2011 18:01, Blogger Billman said...

"You're a liar!" - The Fat Deluded Narcissist's guide to gaining attention by having yourself arrested for issues noone really cares about. - By Jon Gold

 
At 13 November, 2011 18:04, Blogger Billman said...

How to turn misguided civil disobedience into comedy gold.

 
At 13 November, 2011 18:20, OpenID nykeyoung said...

_I'm Number One_ with his flip-off picture as the cover.

 
At 13 November, 2011 18:36, Blogger Grandmastershek said...

"Left Out In the Cold: One man's Pointless Adventures at the Whitehouse"?

 
At 13 November, 2011 19:03, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

Hell, I even did the cover for him. For free. Ungrateful bastard won't even thank me.

 
At 13 November, 2011 19:17, Blogger Ian said...

I think you win, RGT. That's hilarious.

 
At 13 November, 2011 19:47, Blogger James B. said...

"Everyone Else is COINTELPROL My Life in the 9/11 Truth Movement" By Jon Gold.

 
At 13 November, 2011 20:49, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"In My Own Foot Print"

"Fall for Anything"

"Life's Not Fair, and That's Not Fair"

"Undefinable Relative Moral Victories Define Themselves"

"My Own Standards, My Own Evidence"

"Captain Obvious, Major Pain"

"Late to the Party I Wasn't Invited To"

"If You Don't Like The Answer Ask Another Question"

" The Heel Has No Balls"

"The Heart of a Quest, the Bowels of a Movement"

"Looking Like You're Doing Something is Better Than Actually Doing Something"

"Making a Difference with a Different Difference Making Made Different... Just Give Me Money"

 
At 13 November, 2011 22:42, Blogger gypsy said...

this is brilliant!

some people should give up before they begin!

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20111103044226974

 
At 13 November, 2011 23:35, Blogger Billman said...

this is brilliant!

some people should give up before they begin!

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20111103044226974


Holy shit! You're right!

Alright guys, it finally happened. The end of the Debunkers is at hand. Guess we need to shut down this blog and turn ourselves in to the nearest Troof HQ for access to our bank accounts to prove we are paid government shills, followed by executions. Damn.. so close to getting away with the inside job too, but gypsy's link destroyed everything!

OMG! LOLZ! ROFL!

 
At 14 November, 2011 06:20, Blogger James B. said...

Oh God, I have been chatting on and off with that guy for weeks. He is so full of himself, and never listens. Finally got bored and gave up.

 
At 14 November, 2011 13:03, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

The title is a secret. I haven't decided how I'm going to publish it. I haven't decided if I'm going to charge for it.

In other words Jon Gold is:

1: Conspiring for a novel title.

2: Deciding how to sucker Truthers into forking over cash to publish his fantasy.

3: Is looking to make a killing out of scamming innocent people into buying his garbage novel.

WTFG Jon!

 
At 14 November, 2011 13:09, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

As far as a novel title:

"9/11 was an Inside Job & so was my hair loss."

or

"The Gold, the Bald, & the Ugly."

or

"How to handcuff yourself to Government Property."

or

"Idiots Guide to misunderstanding science, quote mined statements & blaming innocent people for a crime they didn't commit."

 
At 14 November, 2011 13:30, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

this is brilliant!

some people should give up before they begin!

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20111103044226974


OMG, combine that epic failure from Jeffrey G. Strahl along with Jon Gold & Dylan Avery's failures & we might have a new Two & A Half Men on our hands.

 
At 14 November, 2011 14:51, Blogger gypsy said...

"Holy shit! You're right!

Alright guys, it finally happened. The end of the Debunkers is at hand. Guess we need to shut down this blog and turn ourselves in to the nearest Troof HQ for access to our bank accounts to prove we are paid government shills, followed by executions. Damn.. so close to getting away with the inside job too, but gypsy's link destroyed everything!

OMG! LOLZ! ROFL!"

ha! - proves the point. youre unable to answer the questions posed there, so babble on with absurd inanities.

fkn hopeless

 
At 14 November, 2011 14:52, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

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At 14 November, 2011 14:53, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

If I read this book:

http://www.oddee.com/item_96479.aspx

I'd use Jon Gold's book as toilet paper.

 
At 14 November, 2011 15:11, Blogger Billman said...

ha! - proves the point. youre unable to answer the questions posed there, so babble on with absurd inanities.

fkn hopeless


So the entire Troofer vs. Debunker debate, and all of the 9/11 Truth movement's willingness to accept that 9/11 is as the government has concluded, rests on ME answering the questions?

 
At 14 November, 2011 15:15, Blogger GuitarBill said...

This is drugs.

"...Alright guys, it finally happened. The end of the Debunkers is at hand. Guess we need to shut down this blog and turn ourselves in to the nearest Troof HQ for access to our bank accounts to prove we are paid government shills, followed by executions. Damn.. so close to getting away with the inside job too, but gypsy's link destroyed everything!"

This is your brain on drugs.

"...OMG! LOLZ! ROFL!" ha! - proves the point. youre unable to answer the questions posed there, so babble on with absurd inanities."

Any questions?

 
At 14 November, 2011 16:14, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

Billman,

Don't forget, they're just JAQing off because that's what they do best. They refuse all logical answers.

 
At 14 November, 2011 16:14, Blogger James B. said...

Yeah, that idiot insists that if I can't explain every possible phenomenon to his satisfaction then I have fallen into his "trap". So I then asked what he thought happened, he got all insulted when i attributed thermite claims to him, and he just made vague references to possible Pentagon weapons. Just another case of JAQing off.

 
At 14 November, 2011 16:21, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

I find it funny that Truthers would go from explosives to thermite in a hearbeat.

Everyone knows that not a single camera mic picked up any of these "explosives" going off even where they're nearby (1 or 2 blocks away).

Alot of people know that thermite was used in welding steel rails together in the 1850s & that thermite bombs were used to firestorm Japanese & German cities during WWII & that thermite grenades were only used to weld the breaches of artillery to the barrel to render them useless.

Seriously, if they planned on using thermite then why isn't there a huge solidified piece of it that weighs as much as the Titanic?

Titanic weighed over 46,000 tons.

 
At 14 November, 2011 18:50, Blogger plague311 said...

So I suppose I am extremely late on giving my 2 cents around these parts. I live in a city in North Dakota so I was never really close to the tragedy, it never "hit home" for me, but I have followed the 9/11 tragedy since it happened. This is my first post about it. I have read this site for months, read the CT's garbage, and researched until I felt comfortable commenting.

In all honesty, I can say that people that actually believe there is a conspiracy can think whatever they want, but if you CT assholes have the fucking nerve to disgrace the people that had to, first hand, suffer through that day, I hope each of you gets what's coming to you.

Everyday I read these, and several other boards, of you whiny little pussies that say debunkers don't answer your fucking questions, or don't pay attention to what you're saying. I've watched every piece of video, I watched Loose Change without the annotation, and then with. I've read all the comments, and every one of your dumb ass, pathetic, random theories that you come up with have been shot down with fact and evidence. All the time, once one of your theories gets shoved down the shitter you come up with some other bogus piece of dumbshittery that you feign as fact...only to get it shot down again and again.

The, so called, leaders of this movement are proven failures in their fields. (Sometimes even in the field of janitorial work).

Just an idea, bitch tits, if you can't scrub floors for a living, don't try tackling real topics. Shut your cock washer, and keep apping at your local starbucks.

Anyway, no real point to my rant, just wanted to say that Troothers are morons.

 
At 14 November, 2011 19:41, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"A bit of background regarding the presence of molten iron and molybdenum, and vaporized lead and steel in the WTC dust and debris: A steel beam recovered from WTC7, the third tower which was destroyed on 9/11, though not hit by a plane nor subject to a serious fire, was examined by a team of engineering professors from Worcester Polytechnic Institute, which identified the beam as being clearly from WTC7 due to the type of steel used."

No, Skippy, it wasn't hit by a plane, but it was hit by WTC causing catastrophic damage (duh).

"The presence of sulfur is itself a mystery..."

Yeah, if you ignore the fuel tanks full of diesel fuel in WTC7 (the source of those non-existant fires).

"Without knowing a full inventory of the weapons in the arsenal of the US armed forces, including special operations units and the CIA..."

Let me clue you in...there are none that fit your theory.

"Nanothermite was indeed detected in ample amounts in the WTC dust, but it may not represent the full story. "

The full story being that no nanothermite was found at Ground Zero.

"We do know that only three possible explanations are possible: volcanic activity, proximity to a hot star like the sun, and explosives and/or incendiary devices. The first two causes can be ruled out."

Can they? You idiot claim there was never an honest investigation, so you can't rule anything out if we play by your fucked up rule set.

"In addition, there were numerous reports of large pools of molten iron/steel under the site of the WTC towers, lasting for weeks. NASA satellites detected extremely hot spots underground."

Thermite's reaction is measured in minutes. Molten iron/steel weeks later suggests something else. It was almost as if there were thousands of steel workers at Ground Zero cutting steel beams or something. Wow, did anybody see these guys?

 
At 14 November, 2011 22:22, Blogger snug.bug said...

Silly girls.

 
At 14 November, 2011 22:52, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

" snug.bug said...
Silly girls."

Misogyny is not a virtue. In 2011 it is the sign of a worthless, pathetic old man stuck in the late 1960s.

More women graduate from college than men do in 2011. Every year there are more and more women better educated than the failure named Brain Goode...

 
At 15 November, 2011 06:09, Blogger Ian said...

Silly girls.

Brian, have you ever wondered why you're a virgin at age 60 and why Carol Brouillet repeatedly rejected your sexual advances?

 
At 15 November, 2011 06:38, Blogger John said...

fkn hopeless

Gypsy, you can judge all you want. What it comes down to is a new investigation. Once you get that, then you can claim victory.

But it's never gonna happen. Ever.

 
At 15 November, 2011 07:32, Blogger plague311 said...

I laugh at being called hopeless by gypsy. You can't post a link to sites with information that has already been proven incorrect, and have a feeling of self importance. It doesn't work like that, in the real world anyway.

Also, if I was a "silly girl" wouldn't that mean snug bug would be stalking me and making my life uncomfortable?

 
At 15 November, 2011 08:39, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 15 November, 2011 08:51, Blogger snug.bug said...

MGF, I didn't say "silly women." You're not women, and you're not even girls. You're silly girls. The kind that operate on sentiment, and mug and simper and lie and think think they're cute when they're not. There's nothing misogynistic about being disgusted when grown men like yourselves act like the silliest of silly little girls, and use this culture of socially-reinforced silliness as a base from which to attack those who are trying to make the world a better place.

It is hardly the waste of a decade to challenge unbelievable and dishonest propaganda that has been exploited to grease the way for enormous changes in society, the most alarming of which is the pervasive cynicism of which y'all are the poster girls.

Ian, you don't know what you're talking about. You're not even a silly girl. You're an electronic version of a pile of lying fortune cookies, or the dumbest Magic 8-ball in the world.

 
At 15 November, 2011 09:36, Blogger Ian said...

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At 15 November, 2011 09:37, Blogger Ian said...

MGF, I didn't say "silly women." You're not women, and you're not even girls. You're silly girls. The kind that operate on sentiment, and mug and simper and lie and think think they're cute when they're not. There's nothing misogynistic about being disgusted when grown men like yourselves act like the silliest of silly little girls, and use this culture of socially-reinforced silliness as a base from which to attack those who are trying to make the world a better place.

Brian, all these severe psychosexual problems of yours, like calling people "girls" and wearing women's underwear, really suggest that you need to see a psychiatrist. Who knows, the psychiatrist could possibly cure other mental disorders like the one that has you spending years posting thousands of pages of dumbspam about your 9/11 fantasies when nobody cares.

 
At 15 November, 2011 09:40, Blogger Ian said...

It is hardly the waste of a decade to challenge unbelievable and dishonest propaganda that has been exploited to grease the way for enormous changes in society, the most alarming of which is the pervasive cynicism of which y'all are the poster girls.

See what I mean? You've wasted a decade posting tons of dumbspam and getting yourself banned everywhere for being a liar and lunatic and sex stalker. This suggests you need serious psychiatric help.

Ian, you don't know what you're talking about. You're not even a silly girl. You're an electronic version of a pile of lying fortune cookies, or the dumbest Magic 8-ball in the world.

Poor Brian, he's just squealing incoherently now, because he knows he's a liar who will never get the widows questions answered.

 
At 15 November, 2011 10:11, Blogger Ian said...

Anyway, I don't want this thread to turn into Brian spamming us about how much him calling us "girls" doesn't mean he's a demented misogynist, so let's change the subject.

I watched "Pearl Jam Twenty" last night, and it really reminded me how much that band has meant to me since the 12-year-old geek version of me was blown away by "Ten" the first time he heard is. That album inspired me to pick up a guitar and sing at the top of my lungs. I still love to sing along with that album today.

Anybody else have The Album That Changed Your Life when you were young?

 
At 15 November, 2011 10:21, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

Anybody else have The Album That Changed Your Life when you were young?

Vulgar Display of Power. I was out of my teens but it changed everything, anyway.

 
At 15 November, 2011 10:37, Blogger snug.bug said...

When you're young you think a trip to Disneyland has changed your life.

 
At 15 November, 2011 11:06, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

When you're young you think a trip to Disneyland has changed your life.

When I was young I wanted to be a train engineer or a firefighter, and I became a firefighter.

Screw Disneyland!

 
At 15 November, 2011 11:08, Blogger Pat Cowardly said...

JamesBitch: you were completely taken apart in that exchange at Amazon, and feigned ignorance about things which you've been repeatedly schooled on in this very blog.

Do you get tired of building the same straw men over and over?
Do you think no one can see how transparently obvious your motives are?
How successful do you think this blog is at answering the scientific questions that confound you so much on Amazon? Give examples.

 
At 15 November, 2011 11:32, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Occupy Gainesville, Florida Says "No" to da Troof

Occupy Gainesville Gate Keepers - No 9/11 Truth.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 
At 15 November, 2011 11:54, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

Pat Cowardly doesn't know that thermite is actually a welding tool used in railroad construction.

But of course history don't mean shit to an ignorant prick.

 
At 15 November, 2011 12:08, Blogger Ian said...

When you're young you think a trip to Disneyland has changed your life.

I've never been to Disneyland. I'm guessing, based on the level of intellectual and emotional development you've displayed here, that you really want mommy to take you back there.

It's too bad that you have no job and thus can't go there yourself.

 
At 15 November, 2011 12:28, Blogger snug.bug said...

Ian, it's quite clear that you don't understand metaphors like Disneyland, silly girls, Magic 8-Balls, rakes, and forks--or you're pretending not to understand them in an effort to impress people who think an inability to understand metaphors is smart.

I can understand that a handicap like yours may bring frustration to your life, but the mature thing to do about a handicap is to do what you can to ameliorate it or make it irrelevant to your life. Ridiculing the people who do not share your handicap is a poor strategy for progress.

 
At 15 November, 2011 12:33, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

All Brian's interested in is trolling because noone wants him around, including Truthers.

Why don't we ignore the troll, I mean Brian, and get on with the topic about Jon Gold?

 
At 15 November, 2011 12:46, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

I wonder how many engineers at Disneyland buy into the inside jobby job. My guess: zero

 
At 15 November, 2011 12:53, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, it's quite clear that you don't understand metaphors like Disneyland, silly girls, Magic 8-Balls, rakes, and forks--or you're pretending not to understand them in an effort to impress people who think an inability to understand metaphors is smart.

Oh, I understand metaphors just fine. They just have to make sense, Brian. You, being an insane failed janitor, don't understand how to use them. That's why you're so funny when you try to use them.

I understand your frustration, though. It must be tough to be approaching social security age and be subject to endless ridicule from someone who was 11 years old in 1991, but it's not my fault that you're a failed janitor and liar and lunatic who wears women's underwear and believes in magic thermite elves.

If you were an ordinary insane person and not a creepy sex stalker who want to exonerate mass murderers, I'd probably leave you alone.

 
At 15 November, 2011 13:25, Blogger snug.bug said...

Ian, the yapping of dogs troubles me not one bit.

Y'all look at yourselves. You can't defend your ignorant 9/11 fantasies; all you can talk about is me. Used to be you had some people here who had actually read some books. Yippy fools like you drove them all away.

 
At 15 November, 2011 13:38, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

JamesBitch: you were completely taken apart in that exchange at Amazon,

You're joking, right? That Strahl character just babbles hysterically. He would have lost even if James never showed up.

 
At 15 November, 2011 13:49, Blogger Ian said...

Y'all look at yourselves. You can't defend your ignorant 9/11 fantasies; all you can talk about is me. Used to be you had some people here who had actually read some books. Yippy fools like you drove them all away.

Brian, as I've said many times, there's nothing left to talk about with regard to 9/11 truth. It's been 10 years, the truthers haven't come up with a shred of evidence to back up their claims and what's left of the movement just repeats the same old nonsense.

All that's left is you: an unintentionally hilarious delusional liar who keeps posting the same nonsense at this blog to no effect. What are we supposed to talk about?

Oh yeah, Pearl Jam. Anyone else have an album that defined their youth?

 
At 15 November, 2011 14:01, Blogger snug.bug said...

Ian, there's more evidence every day. You don't know what you're talking about. Mainstream journalists are writing about Saudi financing of 9/11 and the ISI connections to al Qaeda, Senator Bob Graham is talking about the Saudis, and Behrooz Sarshar's "Kamikaze Pilots" warning is getting wider exposure.

For you to spend your time crowing about the alleged death of something you regard as unworthy of your time makes about as much sense as taking out a TV ad to proclaim--we have almost none of our product left! Hurry and get yours before it's all gone!

 
At 15 November, 2011 14:11, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, there's more evidence every day. You don't know what you're talking about. Mainstream journalists are writing about Saudi financing of 9/11 and the ISI connections to al Qaeda, Senator Bob Graham is talking about the Saudis, and Behrooz Sarshar's "Kamikaze Pilots" warning is getting wider exposure.

Evidence of what, Brian? That the Saudis and the Pakistani ISI were in cahoots with bin Laden? Again, this is only "new" evidence for a delusional liar like yourself.

Also, I'm not sure how this stuff supports your assertions that invisible elevator mechanics sprayed magic super-thermite on the towers and then blew them up with invisible, silent explosives.

For you to spend your time crowing about the alleged death of something you regard as unworthy of your time makes about as much sense as taking out a TV ad to proclaim--we have almost none of our product left! Hurry and get yours before it's all gone!

See Brian, these are the kind of absurd analogies that keep me coming back here to laugh at you. You're just so entertaining when you start squealing.

 
At 15 November, 2011 14:23, Blogger snug.bug said...

Ian, you are playing dumb again. That's a dumb strategy, because it only fools dumb people--like WAQo, MGF, DK, and GB, who are dumber than you pretend to be.

There was nothing invisible about the explosions. 118 first responders reported sounds of explosions and/or flashes of light.
I'm not aware of any invisible elevator mechanics. I suppose you think the motorman on the subway is invisible when you can't see him?

There's nothing absurd about the TV ad analogy. It's very apt. IN both cases we have someone making a statement that is disproved by the mere fact that he's making it.

 
At 15 November, 2011 14:37, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, you are playing dumb again. That's a dumb strategy, because it only fools dumb people--like WAQo, MGF, DK, and GB, who are dumber than you pretend to be.

Brian, it's not "playing dumb" to point out that you're a babbling lunatic who believes in multiple contradictory things.

There was nothing invisible about the explosions. 118 first responders reported sounds of explosions and/or flashes of light.

That's nice. Thermite isn't an explosive, and explosions (especially in a huge, uncontrolled fire) are not necessarily indicative of explosives. There is no evidence of explosives.

I'm not aware of any invisible elevator mechanics. I suppose you think the motorman on the subway is invisible when you can't see him?

Brian, I can see the motorman on the subway. The fact that you think I can't goes a long way towards explaining why you're so confused about 9/11.

There's nothing absurd about the TV ad analogy. It's very apt. IN both cases we have someone making a statement that is disproved by the mere fact that he's making it.

Brian, I don't think these analogies even make sense to you, since you can't even explain it. No wonder you think your hilarious "meatball on a fork" analogy is something to be taken seriously.

Like Carol Brouillet said, you're delusional.

Anyway, this is stupid. Can we get back to talking about Pearl Jam?

 
At 15 November, 2011 15:54, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Tell us about "dumb," goat fucker.

After all, an unemployed janitor, sex predator and cross-dresser who's so poorly educated that he can't handle high school mathematics and thinks linear thermal expansion and Young's modulus are some kind of wild, unproven theories has no business referring to anyone as "dumb."

So goat fucker, have you learned to solve an a equation for a given variable? Or is that "the difference between two temperatures" stuff still causing you trouble?

Cretin.

 
At 15 November, 2011 16:31, Blogger snug.bug said...

See what I mean?

Ian, you see the motorman if you're looking for him at the right time and the right place. Same with elevator mechanics. They're not invisible.

UtterFail, there's no reason I should waste my time on your 7th grade algebra tests.

 
At 15 November, 2011 16:59, Blogger GuitarBill said...

You asked what makes me think that you can't do the math.

So what makes me think that you're a charlatan who can't pass a test in elementary mathematics?

The answer is simple: You steadfastly refused to answer the questions. In fact, you wasted an entire thread dancing around like a cat on a hot tin roof and making excuses for your gross incompetence--you charlatan.

In fact, I had to spoon feed you the data like a child, and then you continued to refuse to answer the questions.

And when you were proven wrong by simple application of linear expansion theory and Young's modulus, all you could offer in reply was 100% fact-free hand waving and nay-saying--which isn't a rebuttal at all.

Thus, it's obvious why you can't answer the questions: You don't have the background or the education. All you have are data you've memorized from various sources, garnished with constant regurgitation of Box Boy's pseudo-science.

Again, you're in no position to call anyone "dumb."

 
At 15 November, 2011 17:22, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"Mainstream journalists are writing about Saudi financing of 9/11 and the ISI connections to al Qaeda..."

They were doing that on 9/12. 10 year old news is not news.

"Senator Bob Graham is talking about the Saudis..."

Uh huh...talking...

"Behrooz Sarshar's "Kamikaze Pilots" warning is getting wider exposure."

Yeah,the vague warning of an attack that might occur in the US or Europe. (http://www.salon.com/2004/07/22/iran_63/), just like all the other vague warnings prior to 9/11 that went ignored...because they were vague.


"There was nothing invisible about the explosions. 118 first responders reported sounds of explosions and/or flashes of light."

Yeah, no. You cherry pick your evidence. Few of those 118 responders think those sound were made by explosives today. 9/11 was captured by hundreds of video cameras and thousands of stil cameras. Not a single one captured an explosion.

 
At 15 November, 2011 19:14, Blogger James B. said...

Oh my God snug, are you suggesting that the 9/11 attacks might be connected to Islamic extremists from the Arabian Peninsula?

I am shocked at the possibility. Let me know what you find out.

 
At 15 November, 2011 19:55, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"Oh my God snug, are you suggesting that the 9/11 attacks might be connected to Islamic extremists from the Arabian Peninsula?"

Wait, I wonder where those guys trained? We should look into that too.

 
At 15 November, 2011 20:02, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, I refuse to answer your questions because I've already jumped through your hoops about the chain rule and eutectic mixtures and who knows what all else, and clearly all the evidence in the world can not shake your delusions that I am a failed janitor.

James B, so you knew all along what the 9/11 Commission and the Bush Administration and the Joint Inquiry were covering up, and yet it didn't bother you all these years that they covered it up.

 
At 15 November, 2011 20:28, Blogger snug.bug said...

MGF, how do you know what the 118 first responders think? Have you wormed your way into their confidence? All 118?

AFAIK the places the alleged hijackers trained included Pensacola Naval Air Station and the Defense Language Institute in Monterey.

 
At 15 November, 2011 20:54, Blogger James B. said...

"AFAIK the places the alleged hijackers trained included Pensacola Naval Air Station and the Defense Language Institute in Monterey."

I have always been amused by that last one. What, were they there studying Korean or something?

 
At 15 November, 2011 21:00, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"AFAIK the places the alleged hijackers trained included Pensacola Naval Air Station and the Defense Language Institute in Monterey"

Why would they train at DLI? It's just a language school. There's no record of any of the hijackers being in Monterey. The closest Al Qaeda cell was up in the Coyote Valley, and they vanished in September, 2001.

 
At 15 November, 2011 21:46, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The goat fucker dissembles, "...I refuse to answer your questions because I've already jumped through your hoops about the chain rule and eutectic mixtures and who knows what all else..."

False.

You have never jumped through any hoop. You failed the chain rule question (once again, you couldn't answer the question), and your crap about eutectic mixtures was also proven wrong.

No, you refused to answer the questions because you don't have the education or background to answer the questions. No one with an alleged "scientific reputation" would balk at the opportunity to answer my questions, unless, of course, he has something to hide.

The goat fucker squeals, "...and clearly all the evidence in the world can not shake your delusions that I am a failed janitor."

Delusions? What are you smokin' tonight, goat fucker? You've already admitted that you're a former janitor. So give it up, goat fucker.

[GuitarBill shakes his head in amazement]

 
At 15 November, 2011 21:57, Blogger Ian said...

MGF, how do you know what the 118 first responders think? Have you wormed your way into their confidence? All 118?

Brian, it's irrelevant what all 118 think. There is no evidence for explosives and/or thermite. Explosions are not necessarily indicative of explosives.

Also, why are you babbling about Saudi hijackers when you believe in controlled demolition?

 
At 15 November, 2011 21:58, Blogger snug.bug said...

Let's see, we've got Play Dumb, Lie, and Lie.

James, you can check the historycommons timeline as well as I and find that Air Force spokesman Colonel Ken McClellan stated that Saeed Alghamdi attended the Defense Language Institute in Monterey, California.

MGF, you don't know what you're talking about and you make stuff up (lie).

Utterfail, I got the chain rule challenge just fine, humiliating you. You're not worth my time. I've tried to teach you but you won't learn, and then you jiust lie about my efforts.I've tried to

 
At 15 November, 2011 22:19, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"you can check the historycommons timeline "

Why? Historycommons is a fan-fiction site for bullshit.

"Colonel Ken McClellan stated that Saeed Alghamdi attended the Defense Language Institute in Monterey, California. "

Nope. Never happened. It would have been front page news down here. There is referrence to a Col. McClellan confirming someone with a similar name attending the language school at Lackland, AFB, in Texas. But it has never been confirmed they were the same guy. Saudis will send pilots, and naval officers to the US for specific training, but they can afford a better language education at home or anywhere else in the world.

Had he attended he would have sat in a room with 30 other men. Someone would have said something by now.

So you are full of shit once again.

 
At 15 November, 2011 22:24, Blogger Ian said...

MGF, you don't know what you're talking about and you make stuff up (lie).

Utterfail, I got the chain rule challenge just fine, humiliating you. You're not worth my time. I've tried to teach you but you won't learn, and then you jiust lie about my efforts.I've tried to


My, such squealing!

So once again, Brian has evidence of....nothing. He's babbling about Saudi and Pakistani connections to al Qaeda without realizing that this just confirms what every sane person already knows.

And he still has no evidence of thermite and/or explosives so he's just babbling about subway motormen to cover up his belief in invisible elevator repairmen (along with invisible engineers and invisible widows).

 
At 15 November, 2011 22:26, Blogger Ian said...

You're not worth my time.

Brian, who are you kidding? You're an obsessed lunatic with no job, no friends, and no family who has been spamming this blog for almost 3 years. Of course you're going to continue babbling and squealing whenever GuitarBill pwns you. It's the only thing your sad, empty life has.

 
At 15 November, 2011 22:27, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The goat fucker dissembles, "...I got the chain rule challenge just fine, humiliating you. You're not worth my time. I've tried to teach you but you won't learn, and then you jiust [SIC] lie about my efforts.I've tried to"

No, I didn't merely ask you to tell me what rule applies to the equation. In fact, I asked you to solve the problem, and you couldn't give me the answer. Big difference, Pinocchio.

You, on the other hand, are in no position to "teach" me anything--you arrogant charlatan. Unless, of course, I need lessons in how to show my junk to little old ladies in Golden Gate Park.

Again, you couldn't answer my simple questions because you don't have the education or the background to answer the questions. Scientists and engineers are never reluctant to show off their chops.

That's why I'm so willing to walk the walk. And your consistent failure to do the same proves that all you have is talk.

Tell us more about the wild, unproven and purely theoretical nature of linear thermal expansion and Young's modulus--you charlatan.

The "mysterious" and "unproven" Young's modulus:

F/A = Y x ∆L/L0

The "mysterious" and "unproven" thermal expansion equation:

∆L = L0α∆T

And my hybrid:

F/A = Y x L0α∆T/L0 - Yα∆T

Plot the force exerted on concrete from 20 degrees C to 400 degrees C (as I pointed out previously, the pressure exerted on the concrete is tremendous. That is, over 4.6 x 10^-6. Or about a million pounds at 50 degrees C. And the pressure exerted on the concrete increases with temperature.)

Now tell us that failure is inconceivable for the welds, bolts and truss seats under that kind of pressure.

Go for it, Mr. Bogus "scientific reputation."

FAIL.

 
At 15 November, 2011 23:04, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 15 November, 2011 23:10, Blogger snug.bug said...

MGF, as usual you just make stuff up. Sept. 17, 2001 ANA RADELAT — Gannett News Service

http://web.archive.org/web/20050205160603/http://www.summeroftruth.org/mcclellan.html

"A man having the same name as one of the suspected hijackers on the plane that crashed in western Pennsylvania, Saeed Alghamdi, attended California's Defense Language Institute in Presidio of Monterey, Calif."

Never happened? Someone would have talked? Where do you get your intimate knowledge of the behavior of elite military and intelligence personnel?

Ian, the fact that the Bush administration, the 9/11 Commission, the Joint Inquiry, and the FBI covered up the Saudi and ISI connections is one of the cornerstones of the 9/11 truth movement. Your claim that you knew this all along only goes to show that we won. First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then they claim they knew it all along.

UtterFail, your belief that I "can't" answer the question simply because I "don't" answer the question shows your basic irrationality.

Your equation-spam only proves my point. Any idiot can cut and paste the equations. I can post e = mc^2 'til I'm blue in the face, but it won't make me a nuclear physicist. You're a waste of time.

We were talking about your claim that the fires in the buildings could generate sulfur dioxide from drywall. When I showed that you had not proven that you suddenly change the subject to Young's modulus and thermal expansion.

That may impress idiots like WAQo and Ian and DK and MGF, but it won't impress anybody who's half-way smart.

 
At 15 November, 2011 23:21, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The goat fucker dissembles, "...your belief that I "can't" answer the question simply because I "don't" answer the question shows your basic irrationality."

Again, scientists and engineers are never reluctant to show off their chops. You didn't answer the questions because you can't answer the questions.

And your continued refusal to answer my questions (e.g., Plot the force exerted on concrete from 20 degrees C to 400 degrees C) adds more credibility to my argument.

You can't plot the force exerted on concrete from 20 degrees C to 400 degrees C because you don't have the education or the background.

FAIL.

The goat fucker squeals, "...Your equation-spam only proves my point. Any idiot can cut and paste the equations. I can post e = mc^2 'til I'm blue in the face, but it won't make me a nuclear physicist. You're a waste of time."

You wasted an entire paragraph while saying absolutely nothing.

Are nay-saying and hand waving all you have, charlatan?

The goat fucker hallucinates, "...We were talking about your claim that the fires in the buildings could generate sulfur dioxide from drywall. When I showed that you had not proven that you suddenly change the subject to Young's modulus and thermal expansion."

I never mentioned drywall--you scurrilous liar. The word "drywall" wasn't mentioned until you used it in your last post.

Are you having a hard time keeping your lies straight, goat fucker? Or are you sniffing glue again?

Enjoy another heaping bowl of FAIL, goat fukcer.

 
At 15 November, 2011 23:31, Blogger snug.bug said...

Utterfail your belief that I "can't" answer your irrelevant questions simply because I "don't" answer the question shows your basic irrationality.

You're a waste of time. Your equation-spam reminds me of the tactics of the Citizen Investigation Team--post a whole lot of irrelevant crap that will look sciencey to high-school dropouts, and claim victory.

You certainly did mention drywall. You claimed that the sulfidation attack on the Appendix C samples was done by sulfur dioxide derived from heated gypsum. That's drywall. Now you are employing your usual tactic of creating a long-winded spamfest by claiming that you never said what you said.

You don't know what you're talking about, you lie, you make up your facts, you spam, and you are so utterly terrified of being wrong that you are absolutely useless and a total waste of time.

 
At 15 November, 2011 23:44, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The goat fucker squeals, "...your belief that I "can't" answer your irrelevant questions simply because I "don't" answer the question shows your basic irrationality."

Repeating the same crap over-and-over again will NEVER add the force of credibility to your argument, goat fucker.

You didn't answer the questions because you can't answer the questions.

The goat fucker squeals, "...You're a waste of time. Your equation-spam reminds me of the tactics of the Citizen Investigation Team--post a whole lot of irrelevant crap that will look sciencey [SIC] to high-school dropouts, and claim victory."

There you go again, spelling-bee champ. You just wasted another paragraph larded with 100% fact-free assertions, and managed, in the process, to say absolutely nothing. Talk about "piled higher and deeper."

The goat fucker hallucinates, "...You certainly did mention drywall."

No, I didn't "mention drywall."

See how you are, goat fucker? After all, you never admit when you're wrong, even when the evidence stares you straight in your lying puss.

You really need to lay off the glue sniffing, goat fucker. Are you suffering from dementia?

The goat fucker prevaricates, "...You don't know what you're talking about, you lie, you make up your facts, you spam, and you are so utterly terrified of being wrong that you are absolutely useless and a total waste of time."

Well, if that's the case, you've certainly provided not a scintilla of evidence to substantiate your assertion, ass.

Have another heaping bowl of FAIL, goat fucker.

 
At 16 November, 2011 00:04, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, you are again using the disinfo playbook--accuse your opponent of what you are doing.

You mentioned gypsum, which is present in office buildings as drywall. You are once again trying to hide behind semantical dodges. You are a waste of time.

You certainly keep on dishing up the FAIL, GutterBall. With fingers like yours, you should have played trumpet, not guitar. It seems you don't know the FAIL is yours.

 
At 16 November, 2011 00:12, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The goat fucker dissembles, "...you are again using the disinfo playbook [SIC] --accuse your opponent of what you are doing."

No, wrong again, goat fucker. I would never stoop to your level or adopt your "debate" tactics.

Try again, Pinoicchio.

The goat fucker dissembles, "...You mentioned gypsum, which is present in office buildings as drywall. You are once again trying to hide behind semantical dodges. You are a waste of time."

No, I did no such thing. And I challenge you to show me where I ever mentioned "drywall."

FACT: The word "drywall" was not mentioned until YOU mentioned it in your post at time stamp 15 November, 2011 23:10.

Enjoy another heaping bowl of FAIL, goat fucker.

 
At 16 November, 2011 00:18, Blogger snug.bug said...

You cited gypsum. Gypsum is drywall. You're hiding behind semantical dodges.

 
At 16 November, 2011 00:26, Blogger GuitarBill said...

That's not an answer, goat fucker, it's an evasion.

PROVE that I mentioned "drywall" before you did in your post at time stamp 15 November, 2011 23:10.

You can't prove your assertion, ass?

Then may I suggest that you STFU, Pinocchio.

So when do you plan to address my argument, as opposed to misrepresenting my argument and bashing straw men--you infected cunt?

Have another heaping bowl of FAIL, goat fucker.

 
At 16 November, 2011 00:30, Blogger snug.bug said...

Your demand that I quote you on "drywall" is dishonest. You were talking about gypsum. Gypsum is drywall.

You can not even maintain the illusion in your own mind that you are right unless you lie and lie and lie and lie.

 
At 16 November, 2011 00:40, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The goat fucker dissembles, "...Your demand that I quote you on "drywall" is dishonest. You were talking about gypsum. Gypsum is drywall."

That's not an answer, goat fucker, it's an evasion.

And no, I wasn't talking about gypsum, either.

Gypsum was not mentioned by anyone BUT YOU in your post at time stamp 15 November, 2011 23:31. Thus, the only person who mentioned gypsum/drywall was you, Pinocchio.

Have another heaping bowl of FAIL, goat fucker.

The goat fucker dissembles, "...You can not even maintain the illusion in your own mind that you are right unless you lie and lie and lie and lie."

That's right, goat fucker, be a good little troofer Nazi and accuse your opponent of the crimes you commit.

Have another heaping bowl of FAIL, goat fucker.

 
At 16 November, 2011 01:26, Blogger snug.bug said...

No, you were talking about gypsum at 16:45 in the other thread. I guess you can't keep one thread consistent with another, eh liar?

 
At 16 November, 2011 01:46, Blogger GuitarBill said...

16:45?!?!?!?!?

Making shit up again, Pinocchio?

Care to substantiate your assertion with a hyperlink and a direct quote, ass? I thought not.

FAIL

No, wrong again, Pinocchio. On the contrary, you're the one who can't "keep one thread consistent with another."

And my reference to time stamps as proof is all the evidence I need to demonstrate that I'm telling the truth.

In fact, your entire argument is irrelevant--in fact, your argument is a distraction--because you're trying to change the subject from real science [my argument] to idiotic and irrelevant straw men fallacies [your argument] in order to AVOID the substance of my proof, which I posted above.

You're weak; a pussy; a coward; a mental midget.

So when do you plan to address my argument, as opposed to bashing straw men, goat fucker?

Enjoy another steaming bowl of FAIL, goat fucker.

 
At 16 November, 2011 02:13, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Enough of the idiot. Back to the subject.

Here's a title for you:

"Hey! What Are You Doing Under Here?"--Jon Gold's Field Guide To Spewing Idiotic Conspiracy Theories While Hiding Under The Skirts of Non-Existent Widows."

:)

 
At 16 November, 2011 05:31, Blogger Billman said...

JamesBitch: you were completely taken apart in that exchange at Amazon, and feigned ignorance about things which you've been repeatedly schooled on in this very blog.

Do you get tired of building the same straw men over and over?
Do you think no one can see how transparently obvious your motives are?
How successful do you think this blog is at answering the scientific questions that confound you so much on Amazon? Give examples.


See? Only Pat Cowardly and "gypsy" brought this subject up. Obviously the same troll.

Your pussy that hurt over your picture that you attempted to change your name so you can still yell anonymously at the mean dumbunkers? Well, waah..

 
At 16 November, 2011 06:33, Blogger John said...

Anyone else have an album that defined their youth?

Well, the album that changed my life when I was younger was an album called "That's the Way I Feel Now: A Tribute to Thelonious Monk". A bunch of jazz and rock artists playing Monk's songs. Introduced me to John Zorn. Also has Peter Frampton, Joe Jackson and Todd Rundgren on it.

 
At 16 November, 2011 06:38, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, the fact that the Bush administration, the 9/11 Commission, the Joint Inquiry, and the FBI covered up the Saudi and ISI connections is one of the cornerstones of the 9/11 truth movement.

So how does one reconcile this with belief in controlled demolition? If this is a "cornerstone" of the truth movement, why are truthers constantly babbling about magic spray-on thermite, invisible silent explosives, death ray beams from space, holographic airplanes, and modified attack baboons?

Your claim that you knew this all along only goes to show that we won. First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then they claim they knew it all along.

Um, no. It means we knew it all along. We didn't need failed janitors who compare themselves to Gandhi to tell us this. Also, Brian, for the vast majority of people, the truth movement never got past the "ignore" stage. Here we're in the ridicule stage.

 
At 16 November, 2011 06:42, Blogger Ian said...

Also, Brian, you keep saying that GuitarBill isn't worth your time, and yet you keep pounding away at that keyboard in a hopeless attempt to prove him wrong. It's hilarious how obsessed you are.

 
At 16 November, 2011 06:53, Blogger James B. said...

It never happend Snug, and I say this as retired military. It is a silly theory anyway, as I pointed out there would be no reason for him to attend DLI. Why do Truthers constantly have the conspirators do things for no other reason than to make the conspiracy more complicated?

 
At 16 November, 2011 08:34, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

Why do Truthers constantly have the conspirators do things for no other reason than to make the conspiracy more complicated?

Because on TV, everything seen and heard points in some way to the resolution. There are no irrelevant dots. Truthers expect real life to behave the same way.

 
At 16 November, 2011 08:40, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

""A man having the same name as one of the suspected hijackers on the plane that crashed in western Pennsylvania, Saeed Alghamdi, attended California's Defense Language Institute in Presidio of Monterey, Calif."

I went to school with Jim Henricks and Paul Newman. Not the famous ones, just guys with the same name.

So what is the more likely case, a 9/11 hijacker went to DLI in Monterey, or just a guy with the same name?

I'm know DLI well, there's not a lot of elite there. Just kids who may or may not be so good with languages. We have a lot of foriegn military down here, we se them in uniform every day.

You also quote an article from 2001. There has been no further follow up. Why? BECAUSE THERE IS NO STORY. Normal people would understand this. You are a backward fucktard.

And yes someone would have talked because someone always does. Three Delta Force commanders have written books about the hunt for bin Laden detailing the collosal fuck ups of the Bush Administraion in handling the situation. Delta guys never talk to outsiders, let alone write books, unless they think the public needs to know the truth. So if a 9/11 hijacker had been at DLI someone would have said something by now. There would be a book. It would be on 60 Minutes or Frontline.

Troofer website don't count.

 
At 16 November, 2011 08:45, Blogger snug.bug said...

Ian, it amuses me to give GoiterBoil a little jab and then see all the stinking purple ooze that pours forth.

James, how do you know there's no reason for Ahmed al-Ghamdi to train in languages? You guys think you know stuff you can not know. Maybe he was being trained in Pashto so he could infiltrate al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Ever hear of Ali Mohammed?

 
At 16 November, 2011 08:50, Blogger John said...

you were completely taken apart in that exchange at Amazon, and feigned ignorance about things which you've been repeatedly schooled on in this very blog.

So...how's that new investigation coming?

 
At 16 November, 2011 08:54, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, it amuses me to give GoiterBoil a little jab and then see all the stinking purple ooze that pours forth.

Right. You're an obsessed lunatic who can't stop babbling. We all know this. It's just hilarious that you'd type obvious lies like "you're not worth my time" when you've been saying such things for years while you continue to post endless dumbspam here.

James, how do you know there's no reason for Ahmed al-Ghamdi to train in languages? You guys think you know stuff you can not know. Maybe he was being trained in Pashto so he could infiltrate al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Ever hear of Ali Mohammed?

Brian, what does this have to do with your belief that Dick Cheney blew up the WTC with invisible magic thermite sprayed on by invisible elevator repairmen?

 
At 16 November, 2011 08:54, Blogger John said...

A man having the same name as one of the suspected hijackers on the plane that crashed in western Pennsylvania, Saeed Alghamdi, attended California's Defense Language Institute in Presidio of Monterey, Calif.

This isn't proof of anything except 2 guys that have the same name.

If this was proof, then I'm the CEO of the Chicago Blackhawks, a jazz critic for Down Beat and the 2nd Captain Kangaroo all at once.

 
At 16 November, 2011 08:56, Blogger James B. said...

"Maybe he was being trained in Pashto so he could infiltrate al Qaeda in Afghanistan."

Well, the fact that they didn't teach Pashto at DLI at that time is one problem with that theory...

 
At 16 November, 2011 08:59, Blogger James B. said...

And why would he, an Arab, have to learn Pashto in order to infiltrate al Qaeda, an organization comprised largely of Arabs? Do you even think about things before spouting these theories?

 
At 16 November, 2011 09:39, Blogger GuitarBill said...

So goat fucker, when do you plan to address my argument, as opposed to bashing straw men?

Let me guess: You'll address my argument just as soon as you master elementary arithmetic (you know, that scary "subtraction" thing that baffles you so) and complete a course in elementary algebra.

In other words, you'll address my argument when Hell freezes over.

Enjoy another steaming bowl of FAIL, goat fucker.

 
At 16 November, 2011 09:41, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

Y'all look at yourselves. You can't defend your ignorant 9/11 fantasies; all you can talk about is me.

That's because you're an attention whore Brian. When the Truth Movement kicked you out for stalking, harassing & abuse they threw you to the curb & you didn't like it. So what do you do? You TROLL other Truther sites & the same thing happens, they throw you to the curb. When you're all alone & sad you come here looking/craving for attention.

Ian, you are playing dumb again. That's a dumb strategy, because it only fools dumb people--like WAQo, MGF, DK, and GB, who are dumber than you pretend to be.

Actually playing dumb is actually smart because it shows us who & what you truely are: A nut!

 
At 16 November, 2011 09:43, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

118 first responders reported sounds of explosions and/or flashes of light.

They don't have CD qualifications, & that's a very big problem since they aren't judges to explosives.

Continue to be a Troll Brian.

 
At 16 November, 2011 09:45, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

Same with elevator mechanics. They're not invisible.

But explosives are? Gimme a break Brian.

 
At 16 November, 2011 09:49, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

That may impress idiots like WAQo and Ian and DK and MGF, but it won't impress anybody who's half-way smart.

So you're saying that MGF, DK, Ian & myself are smarter than you because you admitted that you're only half as smart as the 4 of us?

Just like you kept saying Brian: "Anyone with half a brain knows that 9/11 was an Inside Job."

Yup, you're our villiage idiot with half a brian.

 
At 16 November, 2011 10:13, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

Just how many people might have the same name in the U.S.?

Answer: There are 312,498,686 people in the U.S.

How many have your name?

http://howmanyofme.com/search/

 
At 16 November, 2011 10:16, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

According to that site I just went to, there are 86 people in the U.S. who have the name as me.

And when I looked up Brian's name, well here's the result:

There are 147 people in the U.S. named Brian Good.

It's just COINCIDENCE that that many people would have the same name.

Swoosh! Nothin' but net!

 
At 16 November, 2011 10:56, Blogger Ian said...

There are 147 people in the U.S. named Brian Good.

I feel bad for the other 146. Imagine you've applied for a job and a quick Google search by your potential employer reveals "Brian Good" to be a failed janitor and sex stalker and liar in women's underwear.

 
At 16 November, 2011 11:08, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

I feel bad for the other 146. Imagine you've applied for a job and a quick Google search by your potential employer reveals "Brian Good" to be a failed janitor and sex stalker and liar in women's underwear.

Yeah, me too, I feel bad too if my name was associated with a lunatic.

 
At 16 November, 2011 11:29, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

Bet Brian didn't know about this last year:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6860

Carol Brouillet was there in Palo Alto.

 
At 16 November, 2011 12:58, Blogger snug.bug said...

Oh boy, there's contagious Iananity as GutterBall starts babbling that the widows don't exist.

Ian, you keep asking the same stupid questions again and again as if they haven't been answered over and over.

When I tell you that iron oxide primer paint can be sprayed, and aluminum metalflake paint can be sprayed, and that thermite can thus reasonably be supposed to be sprayable, I am not babbling about anything magic. You're just playing with straw dolls.

John, nobody said anything about proof. If things had been proven, there'd be no need for new investigation.

James B, once again you claim knowledge you can not possibly have--that they did not teach Pashto at the DLI. I would think he would want to speak Pashto so that he could make himself very useful to al Qaeda. You don't think about these things very deeply before making up your mind about what's possible and impossible, do you?

WAQo, when's the last time you looked in an elevator shaft? How would you expect Security to check 15 miles of elevator shafts in the towers?

WAQo, of course I know about it. I even go sometimes. In October I tabled there myself, 'cause Carol was back east. In November it was raining.

 
At 16 November, 2011 13:24, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

WAQo, when's the last time you looked in an elevator shaft? How would you expect Security to check 15 miles of elevator shafts in the towers?

Ummm don't you know they use climbing gear to climb down the elevator shafts now-a-days to inspect them thru repelling? Obviously you didn't know that because you love to leave out the good parts.

WAQo, of course I know about it. I even go sometimes. In October I tabled there myself, 'cause Carol was back east. In November it was raining.

You know why Carol moved back East, don't ya?

 
At 16 November, 2011 13:37, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, you keep asking the same stupid questions again and again as if they haven't been answered over and over.

When have you ever answered any questions, Brian?

When I tell you that iron oxide primer paint can be sprayed, and aluminum metalflake paint can be sprayed, and that thermite can thus reasonably be supposed to be sprayable, I am not babbling about anything magic. You're just playing with straw dolls.

Yes, it can reasonably be supposed to be sprayable. That doesn't make it magic. I know you're a failed janitor and delusional liar and this is hard for you to understand, but that's why you should let it go and leave things to people who know what they're talking about.

John, nobody said anything about proof. If things had been proven, there'd be no need for new investigation.

Brian, there is no need for new investigations and there will never be new investigations. Posting endless dumbspam about magic thermite and calling people who laugh at you "girls" won't change things. Sorry.

 
At 16 November, 2011 13:41, Blogger Ian said...

Oh boy, there's contagious Iananity as GutterBall starts babbling that the widows don't exist.

Brian, I never said that widows don't exist. My grandmother is a widow.

What I said is that you believe in invisible widows. You also believe in magic thermite elves, modified attack baboons, invisible engineers, invisible elevator repairmen, and that Willie Rodriguez is a "strutting, bragging, lying, fabulous Latin dream".

 
At 16 November, 2011 13:45, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Mr. Bogus "scientific reputation" squeals, "...Oh boy, there's contagious Iananity as GutterBall starts babbling that the widows don't exist."

Are straw man arguments all you have, Mr. Bogus "scientific reputation"?

Widows exist, goat fucker. In fact, I gave you an example of a widow, who, just a few days ago, named Afghanistan in a wrongful-death case.

See how your are, goat molester? You just can't debate without resorting to deliberate misrepresentation of your opponent's argument. Why is that, goat fucker?

So yes, I believe the widows exist. On the other hand, I will continue to dispute the existence of your self-serving and thoroughly delusional version of "the widows." Why? For no other reason than they exist solely in the tertiary syphilis-addled lump of shit that masquerades as your "mind."

Is that clear enough for you, Mr. Bogus "scientific reputation"?

So when do you plan to address my argument, as opposed to bashing straw men, Mr. Bogus "scientific reputation"?

Enjoy another steaming bowl of FAIL, goat fucker.

 
At 16 November, 2011 13:45, Blogger James B. said...

"James B, once again you claim knowledge you can not possibly have--that they did not teach Pashto at the DLI."

I couldn't. What exactly do you think I did for the Army, worked as a janitor? I deployed to Central Asia in November 2001. Think I might have had a little insight into when and where Central Asian languages were being taught for the military?

 
At 16 November, 2011 14:03, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

once again you claim knowledge you can not possibly have

Brian's really trying to stretch for something but he can't quite put his finger on it. Oh wait, he's stretching for his nose to pick a booger.

Question is: Is he gonna eat it?

 
At 16 November, 2011 15:06, Blogger Pat Cowardly said...

I think the title should be:

"Pat, you don't know any better than I do why they [NORAD] lied, we just know that they lied"

Pat (sheepishly): "Correct" [But I'll still say stupid shit like 'accountable for what?' if I'm asked].

 
At 16 November, 2011 15:19, Blogger snug.bug said...

James B, you're proving my point. Because you have "a little insight" into the military you think you have knowledge that you do not and can not have. I may be an excellent Hyundai mechanic but my bit of automotive insight does not mean I get to say that Bob Smith's red 1992 Toyota can not possibly have a blue door.

If the military was training operatives in Pashto for sensitive ops, they might prefer that this not be generally known. Thus word of a Pashto program, or discreet tutoring, might not reach the keen ear of James B., though surely he was briefed on all other matters of military importance.

But Pashto is just a f'rinstance, OK? Maybe they were training him in German so he could go hang out with Ramzi bin al Shibh, or in French so he could schmooze with Zacarius Moussaoui, or Indonesian, or some obscure Philippine dialect.

 
At 16 November, 2011 15:43, Blogger James B. said...

Uh, yeah, because it isn't like DLI is a military school or anything, people just walk off the streets randomly into classes, no questions asked.

 
At 16 November, 2011 16:17, Blogger Ian said...

Brian, can you start babbling again about how the media is hiding the fact that 85% of Americans believe 9/11 was an inside job in order to help GM sell more cars? That was a fun discussion.

 
At 16 November, 2011 18:01, Blogger John said...

"Pat, you don't know any better than I do why they [NORAD] lied, we just know that they lied"

So...how's that new investigation coming along?

 
At 16 November, 2011 18:48, Blogger snug.bug said...

So John, isn't that kind of cynical of you to stand on a demonstrably corrupt political reality as if it were some kind of representation of truth?

Obama won't investigate the crimes that Bush admitted to (wiretapping) and Cheney admitted to (torture). So why should we consider his reluctance to open the 9/11 can of worms as significant? 9/11 provides the justification for the "Ring of Power" executive powers that Obama is clearly unwilling to give up. He won't throw the ring into the volcano at Mt. Doom. (Come to think of it, he looks more like the Gollum every day!)

 
At 16 November, 2011 20:11, Blogger Ian said...

Obama won't investigate the crimes that Bush admitted to (wiretapping) and Cheney admitted to (torture). So why should we consider his reluctance to open the 9/11 can of worms as significant?

What can of worms? He also won't investigate whether Andrew Dice Clay is secretly blackmailing Mario Draghi with pictures of having sex with the cast of "The Big Bang Theory" into keeping ECB interest rates high in order to profit off of a Greek default.

There's a reason things like the above and 9/11 truth don't get investigated.

9/11 provides the justification for the "Ring of Power" executive powers that Obama is clearly unwilling to give up. He won't throw the ring into the volcano at Mt. Doom. (Come to think of it, he looks more like the Gollum every day!)

Brian, stop pretending you have read Tolkien. Well all know that you can't read above the level of "My Pet Goat" (which is why you chose "petgoat" as an internet identity).

 
At 16 November, 2011 21:09, Blogger snug.bug said...

Ian, stop pretending you know anything about me. I read the entire trilogy, and The Hobbit as well.

You seem to think you're my mother-in-law. What's with that?

 
At 17 November, 2011 05:27, Blogger John said...

So John, isn't that kind of cynical of you to stand on a demonstrably corrupt political reality as if it were some kind of representation of truth?

It would be, if the US government or anyone else besides Al Qaeda pulled 9/11 off.

But since Al Qaeda DID pull it off, I'm just stating a fact. There will never be another investigation ever. And I will remind Pat Cowardly of that fact as often as I can.

 
At 17 November, 2011 06:16, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, stop pretending you know anything about me. I read the entire trilogy, and The Hobbit as well.

Right, and you also said you aren't "petgoat" and you didn't stalk Carol Brouillet and you didn't run away squealing and crying from a debate challenge from Willie Rodriguez.

In other words, you lie in a futile attempt to get us to take you seriously. Then we just laugh at your lies, you get upset, start squealing, and call everyone "girls" just like the emotional and intellectual 1st grader you are.

 
At 17 November, 2011 09:01, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"Maybe he was being trained in Pashto so he could infiltrate al Qaeda in Afghanistan."

First off, assfuck, if he went to DLI he had to be an Officer in the Saudi military, so this is really fucking easy to check with multiple sources availible even to a retarded pussy like you.

Second, DLI taught Uhrdu, not Pashtun before 2002. They had to through together a Pashtun program on the fly.

And as has already been stated, he wouldn't have needed to know the language anyway because the Arabs were running the show for AQ.

Stick to talking about stuff you already don't know anything about

 
At 17 November, 2011 10:55, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

The Life of Brian.

Brian: Have I got a big nose, Mum?

Brian's mother: Stop thinking about sex!

Brian: I wasn't!

Brian's mother: You're always on about it. "Will the girls like this? Will the girls like that? Is it too big? Is it too small? "

Brian: I'm not a roman mum, I'm a kike, a yid, a heebie, a hook-nose, I'm kosher mum, I'm a Red Sea pedestrian, and proud of it!

Lead Singer Crucifee: [Dying on the cross] Cheer up, Brian. You know what they say: some things in life are bad. They can really make you mad. Other things just make you swear and curse. When you're chewing on life's gristle, don't grumble; give a whistle, and this'll help things turn out for the best. And... always look on the bright side of life...

 
At 18 November, 2011 01:24, Blogger snug.bug said...

Ian, there's no reason for me to lie.

You, however, lie in almost every post you make.

MGF, what makes you an expert in what DLI did and did not teach? YOu can't even spell "Urdu"! You make up your facts like a silly 8-year-old girl who thinks it's cute.

I already explained why speaking Pashto might allow Mr. al Ghambdi to ingratiate himself to al Qaeda.

 
At 18 November, 2011 06:17, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, there's no reason for me to lie.

So why do you lie constantly?

You, however, lie in almost every post you make.

False.

MGF, what makes you an expert in what DLI did and did not teach? YOu can't even spell "Urdu"! You make up your facts like a silly 8-year-old girl who thinks it's cute.

Squeal squeal squeal!

I already explained why speaking Pashto might allow Mr. al Ghambdi to ingratiate himself to al Qaeda.

al Qaeda is not an organization where people speak Pashto, petgoat. If you weren't a failed janitor who believes in magic thermite elves, you might realize this.

 
At 18 November, 2011 08:41, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

Hey Bwian, call them or write them yourself:

DLIFLC
1759 Lewis Rd.
Monterey, CA 93944
Phone: (831) 242-5119

DLI is not a clandestine operation, they even have an on-duty historian to help you.

Dumbfuck.

 
At 18 November, 2011 10:35, Blogger snug.bug said...

MGF, I have no reason to think that whatever spokesperson I got would even know the true answers to my questions. So there's no reason to call anybody.

 
At 18 November, 2011 10:37, Blogger snug.bug said...

Ian, al Qaeda surely used Pashto when they were trying to communicate with Pashtuns.

 
At 18 November, 2011 11:13, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

Ever notice when Brian gets his ass kicked in one thread he retreats like a pussy to the next thread?

You can run Brian, but you can't hide from the truth that you're 100% wrong about everything.

 
At 18 November, 2011 12:19, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, al Qaeda surely used Pashto when they were trying to communicate with Pashtuns.

And English when trying to communicate with Americans and German when trying to communicate with Germans.

What point are you trying to make? Do you even know?

 
At 18 November, 2011 15:36, Blogger James B. said...

Hey, moron, as I already explained, I am expert on what they did and did not teach at DLI. Amazing what you learn if you are not a failed janitor and get out in the world and do things.

 
At 18 November, 2011 16:43, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"MGF, I have no reason to think that whatever spokesperson I got would even know the true answers to my questions. So there's no reason to call anybody."

Translation: I am a coward.

Why would they lie about non-classified information?

 
At 18 November, 2011 17:15, Blogger snug.bug said...

Ian, I know the point I'm trying to make. You are playing dumb to try to sow confusion.

The point is to refute the claim that there would be no reason for Mr. al Ghambdi to attend the DLI.

MGF, you really need to learn to read more carefully. I didn't say the spokesperson would lie. I said I had no reason to think the spokesperson would know.

You also need to learn to avoid making unnecessary and unwarranted assumptions. What makes you think Mr. al Ghamdi's classes would not be classified?

 
At 18 November, 2011 17:58, Blogger James B. said...

Because DLI isn't a school for deep cover CIA operatives, it is a school for military personnel. You can get college credit for going there, for God's sake. Before 9/11 you could drive around on campus freely and look around. It is quite nice.

 
At 18 November, 2011 18:00, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"What makes you think Mr. al Ghamdi's classes would not be classified?"

Because there are no clandestine classes at DLI. It's just a language school. Fort Bragg, Quantico have language schools where certain soldiers can attend out of view, but even those aren't all that secret.


Plus al Ghamdi would be the first jihadist in the history of jihad to learn the local language before going. Every other guy just got funneled into the network, and went to Pakistan. AQ kept their recruits away from the locals anyway for OBVIOUS security reasons.

" I didn't say the spokesperson would lie. I said I had no reason to think the spokesperson would know."

All he/she has to do is call the base library and have them look at the class listings for the years in question.

It's no big deal.

 
At 19 November, 2011 10:05, Blogger snug.bug said...

James B., how do you know what you claim to know? You might as well be claiming that Brewster-Jennings is a consulting firm, and any suggestion that it is a CIA cover is paranoid. You don't know, and your belief that you do reflects some basic epistemic incompetence. You could drive around WTC7 too, and you could go upstairs to American Express or Salomon Brothers. But the fact remains that there was a CIA station there.

MGF, like James B. you are asserting things you can not possibly know.

Your belief that lack of a class listing means there was no such class is ludicrous. Every college has individual courses TBA that are not in the catalog. You don't know that?

 
At 19 November, 2011 10:50, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

James B., how do you know what you claim to know?

Awe, Brian is envious about James B.

Well Brian let's put it this way: He was there & you weren't. So fuck off alright?

 
At 19 November, 2011 10:55, Blogger snug.bug said...

WAQo, I've been the DC. That doesn't mean I'm an expert on everything that happens there. You're a hillbilly.

 
At 19 November, 2011 11:07, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

WAQo, I've been the DC. That doesn't mean I'm an expert on everything that happens there. You're a hillbilly.

So what? I've been to New York, Maryland, New Jersey, Ohio, West Virginia, Virginia & Norht Carolina. You never really were an expert at anything in life, were you? Actually the term "Hillbilly" orginated in Tennesee. I'm from PA you dolt.

 
At 19 November, 2011 12:07, Blogger snug.bug said...

You're proving my point, Jethro. You've been to New York, Maryland, New Jersey, Ohio, West Virginia, Virginia & North Carolina, and that doesn't mean you know everything that goes on there.

I bet you never even looked for explosives in the elevator shaft of the tallest building in Cambria County.

 
At 19 November, 2011 12:41, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

You're proving my point, Jethro. You've been to New York, Maryland, New Jersey, Ohio, West Virginia, Virginia & North Carolina, and that doesn't mean you know everything that goes on there.

You haven't proved shit, all talk and no walk. Actually I lived in Maryland for nearly 7 years, so I know more about it than you do.

I bet you never even looked for explosives in the elevator shaft of the tallest building in Cambria County.

Shifting the goal posts huh? No why in the fuck would I go looking for explosives for? Answer: Because I'm not a 50+ yr. old retard who is paranoid about going into elevators.

 
At 19 November, 2011 12:42, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

Sure, there's explosives everywhere like that magic sprayed on thermite.

Get fucking real you hack.

 
At 19 November, 2011 15:46, Blogger James B. said...

"MGF, like James B. you are asserting things you can not possibly know."

No, it is quite easy for me to know this. Once again, I was deployed for the war, I worked with and met most of our Pashtun linguists. They didn't study at Monterey. What most people don't realize is there are 3 DLI's, the main one in Monterey, the English course in Texas for foreign officers, and one in DC which is used for more obscure languages. Pashtun was rarely taught, despite what Truthers believe the scandal is not that we were plotting to invade Afghanistan but that we were woefully underprepared, and when it was was taught in was taught in Washington DC.

See what types of things you learn when you get out of your basement?

 
At 19 November, 2011 15:46, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"Every college has individual courses TBA that are not in the catalog"

DLI is not a college. It is an Army base where the tech language. Saudis, and Egyptians do attend classes there. They wear their uniforms too.

"MGF, like James B. you are asserting things you can not possibly know."

Prior to June, 2001, DLI was an open base. Anybody could go there. I often did because it's a great place to run. No place was out of bounds, unlike Fort Ord, or Fort Hunter-Liggett where there are restricted areas. Anyone who lives next to a military installation knows about the secret stuff. They don't know what the secret stuff is, they just know it's there.

They closed off public access to the base in June, 2001, because...wait for it...they were expecting a terrorist attack by AQ somewhere in the US.

 
At 19 November, 2011 15:48, Blogger Ian said...

James B., how do you know what you claim to know? You might as well be claiming that Brewster-Jennings is a consulting firm, and any suggestion that it is a CIA cover is paranoid. You don't know, and your belief that you do reflects some basic epistemic incompetence. You could drive around WTC7 too, and you could go upstairs to American Express or Salomon Brothers. But the fact remains that there was a CIA station there.

Poor Brian, he's been completely pwn3d by James B.

Brian, you're going to have to learn that those of us who aren't paranoid lunatics who used to mop floors for a living actually are experts in certain areas and thus can speak authoritatively about them. Given that you're a failed janitor and ignoramus, I know this might be hard for you to understand.

 
At 20 November, 2011 10:31, Blogger snug.bug said...

WAQo, you don't seem to notice that you contradict yourself. You claim that somebody would have noticed the installation of explosives in the 15 miles of WTC elevator shaft, but you ridicule the notion that you should go check elevator shafts in your county for explosives.

James B. you are overvaluing your own limited experience. Once again, studying Pashto is just one of many possible reasons that Mr. al Ghambdi might have had to attend DLI. Often times instructors are multi-lingual and he could easily have studied any number of languages in tutoring sessions even though open classes are not listed.

The making of assertions you can not possibly know is a question of logic, not experience.

Ian, if James B. considers himself an expert on everything that goes on at DLI then that's only proving my point. And your constant employment of the ad hominem, the argument of those who have no argument, defeats your ownself.



No, it is quite easy for me to know this. Once again, I was deployed for the war, I worked with and met most of our Pashtun linguists. They didn't study at Monterey. What most people don't realize is there are 3 DLI's, the main one in Monterey, the English course in Texas for foreign officers, and one in DC which is used for more obscure languages. Pashtun was rarely taught, despite what Truthers believe the scandal is not that we were plotting to invade Afghanistan but that we were woefully underprepared, and when it was was taught in was taught in Washington DC.

See what types of things you learn when you get out of your basement?

 
At 20 November, 2011 10:36, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, if James B. considers himself an expert on everything that goes on at DLI then that's only proving my point. And your constant employment of the ad hominem, the argument of those who have no argument, defeats your ownself.

My, such squealing!

Brian, one of the reasons you're so wildly entertaining is that you start off with pointless speculation in each of your "points", and then when people point out how idiotic that speculation is, you just dig your heels in, no matter how trivial your "point". So now you're babbling about Pashto at DLI for...what reason, exactly?

 
At 20 November, 2011 10:52, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Ian wrote, "...So now you're babbling about Pashto at DLI for...what reason, exactly?"

Haven't I explained this phenomenon dozens of times?

His goal is to hijack every thread and redirect the discussion to his insane ideas.

SLC = The Brian "goat fucker" Good All The Time Show.

And that's precisely why he should be banned. But that will never happen because the "owners" of SLC would rather stick with their foolish and unworkable "We don't ban truthers" stupidity. (It's not about banning "truthers"--you gits--it's about eliminating an internet troll).

Wake up! You cannot "reason" with an insane sex predator who wears women's underwear. Change will not occur UNTIL WE DEMAND IT FROM PAT AND JAMES.

 
At 20 November, 2011 11:42, Blogger James B. said...

"Often times instructors are multi-lingual and he could easily have studied any number of languages in tutoring sessions even though open classes are not listed."

Good God that is stupid. Now I see how spray on thermite and hologram planes can make sense to people like you. If you were going to individually tutor someone to be a deep cover operative, the obvious solution would just be to do it privately, but in Truther logic it somehow makes sense to first enroll him in a school for US military personnel and then PUBLICLY ANNOUNCE the connection. Yeah, that is really covert. Did your mother have any children who lived?

 
At 20 November, 2011 15:30, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"What most people don't realize is there are 3 DLI's, the main one in Monterey, the English course in Texas for foreign officers, and one in DC which is used for more obscure languages."

This sound so impressive when you're wearing a tinfoil hat.

 
At 20 November, 2011 15:39, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"Once again, studying Pashto is just one of many possible reasons that Mr. al Ghambdi might have had to attend DLI. Often times instructors are multi-lingual and he could easily have studied any number of languages in tutoring sessions even though open classes are not listed."

Nope.

A foreign officer wouldn't have access to such features. Nor would the Saudis allow him to attend such a class were it offered, because of the risk of him being turned into a US intelligence asset.

Why would the Saudis waste money sending this guy to DLI when they could...I don't know...send him to Pakistan to study under the ISI's language people? It would be much cheaper.

I sypathize with you, I really do. You need 9/11 to be a conspiracy because it's the only way you can hope to get laid. The sad fact is you are wasting your time. The more you talk the dumber you get.

 

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