Monday, January 05, 2015

Truther Videographer Sonnenfeld to Face Murder Charge for Killing His Wife

A story that has hung out there for years is about to have some resolution:

Mr. Sonnenfeld, who has claimed that he has proof that the American government had prior knowledge of the Sept. 11 attacks, and who has gained a following among like-minded conspiracy theorists, has said the government and prosecutors colluded to frame him for his wife’s death in order to silence him. The Denver district attorney’s office has denied these allegations.

Argentina’s courts had rejected extradition requests from the Justice Department, saying the district attorney’s office could not guarantee Mr. Sonnenfeld would be spared the death penalty in Colorado if convicted. But in a new ruling, the Argentine Supreme Court said it now had the assurances it needed to approve the extradition of Mr. Sonnenfeld.

You know how it is; if he really had evidence that the government had foreknowledge, he would have his lawyers reveal it prior to the trial and create a sensation.  Instead I expect the attorneys to negotiate some sort of plea deal, which of course the Truthers will claim included him not mentioning his 9-11 evidence.

22 Comments:

At 07 January, 2015 08:27, Blogger Stewie Griffin said...

He'll be in jail for life.

 
At 07 January, 2015 08:27, Blogger Stewie Griffin said...

I changed my avatar. It's Jeppe Severin. LOL

 
At 10 January, 2015 08:15, Blogger ConsDemo said...

The attacks in France have given the far right National Front a new platform. It turns out one of their top foreign policy reps to the EU Parliament is a 9/11 conspiratoid.

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/124752/AYMERIC_CHAUPRADE_home.html

http://www.france24.com/en/20131120-france-far-right-911-conspiracy-european-elections-chauprade-le-pen/

 
At 10 January, 2015 09:07, Blogger Ian said...

Yup, ConsDemo. Conspiracy idiocy is where the loony right and loony left meet. I mean, Alex Jones is obviously a far-right nutcase. And Brian Good is a self-parody of a burnt-out fossil of the late 60s-early 70s far left.

 
At 11 January, 2015 19:27, Blogger snug.bug said...

2324 architects and engineers for truth want new investigations of 9/11.

273 of the 9/11 widows' 300 questions to the 9/11 Commission were never answered.

We've already been over the murder stats several times.

As of 2006, 30 million American adults could be considered 9/11 truthers. The number is probably far greater now. Perhaps a dozen murders have been demonstrably committed by these 30 million people over ten years. In the same time period, 270 million non-truthers have committed 160,000 murders--13,000 times as many as the truthers. Non-truthers murder their fellow citizens at a rate of 5925 per million (over ten years). Truthers murder at a rate of 0.4 per million.

Thus non-truthers murder people at a rate 1,481,200 percent of that of the truthers.

 
At 12 January, 2015 04:20, Blogger Stewie Griffin said...

There goes Brian with his mirror talk BS again. Brian must have a twin brother out there named Jeppe Severin of Copenhagen, Denmark.

 
At 12 January, 2015 05:04, Blogger truth hurts said...

Brian: could be, perhaps, probably,

All signs that you are merely speculating.

 
At 12 January, 2015 07:10, Blogger Grandmastershek said...

Of course Brian trots out his fallacious appeal to authority as always, and his irrelevant questions.

You simply fail by pretending to know how many truthers there are, and it changes based on what is convenient at the moment. Regardless, you like most derps for truth consider anyone who thinks any amount of doubt in any regard with 9/11 is a truther.

 
At 12 January, 2015 09:26, Blogger snug.bug said...

GMS, an argument from authority is fallacious only if it is wrong.

When your dentist says you need a root canal and he's right, it's not fallacious to conclude that you need a root canal.

Only a moron would say "My dentist says I need a root canal, but that's a fallacious argument from authority and therefore I can conclude that I don't need a root canal."

My estimate of the number of truthers is based on scientific polling. If you have another estimate, you are free to justify it--but it won't change the fact that, contrary to Pat's anecdotal efforts to paint truthers as a bunch of unstable murderers, the murder rate among truthers is much, much less than that of the general population.

 
At 12 January, 2015 12:47, Blogger truth hurts said...

My estimate of the number of truthers is based on scientific polling

You mean based on your thumb....

Face it, it is nothing more than your estimation. And of course, you make an estimation that suits you best.
Not an objective one.

 
At 12 January, 2015 12:49, Blogger truth hurts said...

Only a moron would say "My dentist says I need a root canal, but that's a fallacious argument from authority and therefore I can conclude that I don't need a root canal."

No, a moron would come up with such an idiot explanation of what a logical fallacy is.

 
At 12 January, 2015 14:06, Blogger Shamrock3939 said...

How does one Conclude that 12 murders were demonstratively attributed to truthers therefore all the other murders were committed by non truthers? Did the rules of logic change?

 
At 12 January, 2015 14:30, Blogger truth hurts said...

It is the logic of a failed janitor that lives with his parents....

 
At 12 January, 2015 14:59, Blogger Grandmastershek said...

GMS, an argument from authority is fallacious only if it is wrong.

No, it's fallacious regardless. Conclusions can be correct, but the premises can still be flawed. Nice logic fail.

When your dentist says you need a root canal and he's right, it's not fallacious to conclude that you need a root canal.

False analogy. A dentist would take an x ray and perform an oral inspection. He would not talk about stupid lists of dentists.

Only a moron would say "My dentist says I need a root canal, but that's a fallacious argument from authority and therefore I can conclude that I don't need a root canal."

Indeed, and wouldn't be and argument from authority. Keep failing.

My estimate of the number of truthers is based on scientific polling.

No it's not. It's based on you assuming people believe in crackpot theories b/c they may not agree with every account from every arm of gov't.

 
At 12 January, 2015 15:10, Blogger Grandmastershek said...

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At 12 January, 2015 15:16, Blogger Grandmastershek said...

n Brian's stupid world:

Dentist: "You need a route canal"

Patient: "Why? How do you know?"

Dentist: "I am a dentist and I know many dentists that would agree with me!"

Patient: "Shouldn't you do an x ray or something? Maybe a visual inspection?"

Dentist: "That doesn't matter as long as I am right!"

Patient" "Ok, sounds good".





In the real world:

Dentist: "You need a route canal"

Patient: "Why? How do you know?"

Dentist: "I am a dentist and I know many dentists that would agree with me!"

Patient: "Shouldn't you do an x ray or something? Maybe a visual inspection?"

Dentist: "That doesn't matter as long as I am right!"

(Patient slowly gets up and backs out of the room to call the ADA)

 
At 12 January, 2015 15:33, Blogger Ian said...

It is the logic of a failed janitor that lives with his parents....

Yes, as is this:

As of 2006, 30 million American adults could be considered 9/11 truthers. The number is probably far greater now.

Nobody gives a rat's ass about 9/11 truth anymore. As soon as W. left the White House, Bush-centered conspiracy theories were dropped in favor of Obama-centered ones. But Brian knows better, I guess. 6 years of spamming this blog has led to more truthers, in his deranged, failed janitor world.

Anyway, I see that 2015 will likely be no different than 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, and 2009. Brian will continue to post the same spam about magic thermite elves, invisible widows, and his homosexual obsession with Willie Rodriguez.

 
At 12 January, 2015 15:38, Blogger Ian said...

Anyway,Brian, in 2015, 9 American adults could reasonably considered to be truthers. 5 of them are convicted murderers. 2 are convicted child molesters. Then there's you and Richard Gage, and while you may have made death threats against Carol Brouillet, you're obviously too much of a coward to take action.

 
At 12 January, 2015 15:53, Blogger Grandmastershek said...

How does one Conclude that 12 murders were demonstratively attributed to truthers therefore all the other murders were committed by non truthers? Did the rules of logic change?

You'll have to excuse Brian. He repeatedly proves logic is as alien to him as sitting the right way on the toilet seat.

 
At 12 January, 2015 16:33, Blogger Grandmastershek said...

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At 12 January, 2015 16:40, Blogger Grandmastershek said...

Nobody gives a rat's ass about 9/11 truth anymore

True enough. The TM at it's peak in 2006 Bryan assumes 30 million would be truthers and he assumes it's "far greater" now. So in 2006 that would be 1 in 10. Let's use the Brian method and assume "far greater means double, so 1 in 5.

I don't know about you but I am definitely not hearing about 9/11 that much anymore except from the usual channels. In fact, if you look at the anniversary gatherings in NYC this year vs 2006 you can safely assume truthdom is down.

You can look at this video and see in 2006 in Manhattan there were at least a few hundred people there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TRLF69p_S0


This past year they had event at 80 St. Marks which pack less than 200 people! Numbers must be soaring!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAD888OYf78

 
At 12 January, 2015 16:44, Blogger Grandmastershek said...

Here's a pic from the Rethink 9/11 anniversary event in Manhattan in 2013.

Literally dozens of people!

http://rethink911.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/DSC_5321-Large.jpg

 

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