Thursday, July 09, 2009

British 7/7 Troofers Have An Adventure

Holocaust Denier and 9/11 and 7/7 Fruitcake Nick Kollerstrom and a prominent 7/7 "researcher" were planning on giving a talk in London. But some debunkers got wind of the meeting and let the hall where the talk was to take place know about some of Kollerstrom's theories and the kooks were uninvited.

With reptilian cunning Obachike has determined the scores of phone calls that Conway Hall received complaining about the event was actually a secret operation to prevent the truth of what happened on July 7th being spread to the eleven people who planned to attend. This was further proved after the MOD infiltrated the left wing book shop Housmans who shocked everyone by also refusing to host a holocaust denier.


Note: MOD means Ministry of Defense

So they adjourned to a pub nearby where Kollerstrom and Obachike gave their spiel. Here's how a fellow troofer described it:

Everyone having paid £5 he led us around Holborn for a while, getting lost once before stopping at a closed down Thai restaurant which Daniel told the "crowd" (12-15 people including 4 of us by my count) the security services must have had shut down to stop his vital info getting out there. Locals said it had been closed for at least a week though.

Then he proceeded to take us to a loud bar on Kingsway which the manager told us was free to reserve an area in. So essentially he charged everyone a £5 (and no doubt had a refund from Conway Hall as well) to sit in a pub.


Basically, this is about control of the UK "Truth" Movement, which actually makes the US movement look sane by comparison. Remember, David Shayler was originally the face of the Troof in Britain, until he smoked so much weed that he thought he was the son of god. Now Kollerstrom is probably the most famous Troofer over there, and Tony Gosling, who runs the UK Truth forum, is supporting him despite the fact that Kollerstrom seems even more deranged than Shayler.

Stefan (the Troofer who wrote about the event) is apparently a We Are Change London member. Obachike claims that We Are Change is a Ministry of Defense cointelpro plot.

The funny thing is that Stefan comes off as the sane one on that board. Kollerstrom (posts as Astro3 over there) is clearly unbalanced, and Obachike (Chi_of_Life) sounds like a bit of a thug.

And that's funny because over at the Truth Action forums there's a long thread going on about the CIT-heads again. And guess who's sticking up for the Pentacon? Yep, it's Stefan again. (Note: the thread starts off being about Kirk Sonnenfeld, the FEMA videographer, but eventually everybody agrees that's a dry hole, and the conversation turns around to Aldo and Craig).

And there Stefan comes off as the lunatic. Apparently CIT now claim to have 13 eyewitnesses who all corroborate the north of Citgo approach. Now this alone is very suspicious. CIT loves to do the old "What are the odds that they're all wrong?" But I would like to switch that around on them. What are the odds they're all "right"?

For the sake of argument, let's suppose that the north of Citgo claim is correct. We know that eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable, but let's say that 70% of the eyewitnesses should remember things correctly and 30% would get details wrong. Based on those probabilities, what are the odds that 13 out of 13 eyewitnesses would validate the NOC approach?

Less than 1% (0.97% to be precise). Yep, the CIT-heads love to claim that because their witnesses all corroborate each other it strengthens their theory; in fact it reveals that there are almost certainly witnesses that did not back up the NOC approach that CIT has chosen to ignore. And over at JREF, some of the posters show that actually some of the 13 do not back up the NOC approach, so CIT apparently got their uniformity by lying about it.

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Tuesday, December 09, 2008

Nick Kollerstrom Speaks

And promptly reveals himself as a total wack-job. Kollerstrom was the 9-11 Troofer whose "research" into the Holocaust led to his dismissal from an honorary fellowship at the University College, London. Kollerstrom is also a 7/7 Troofer as you can hear in the video; the bit about the 7/21 failed bombers being a "prank" is especially offensive, or would be if it didn't come from such an obviously barmy bloke.

Kollerstrom has also called for a European investigation into 9-11. He envisions the inquiry taking place at four separate locations in Europe.

Each of these events would have two or three modules. Modules could be dedicated to, eg, ‘MIHOP versus LIHOP’, or, ‘What hit the Pentagon?’, and each could be one day or half a day for some. Suppose these two day-event modules were held in Amsterdam – maybe in the latter part of 2009: in that case, the Amsterdam steering committee there would receive proposals for material to be submitted and it would have the job of sifting through what was of decent caliber to be included. This would have to start a good six months before the event.


Sounds pretty grandiose, but Nick's got a great idea as to who would pay for it:

Funding: appeals for funding would go to the big Euro-insurance companies who forked out the four billion $ to re-build Ground Zero. Silverstein re-insured the Towers with these Euro-companies weeks before they fell and they all paid up. In case these don’t help we’d approach millionaire Jimmy Walters who helped us years ago, or maybe Islamic banking sources. Such funding could pay for real lawyers to be present and grill the witnesses, which would make it all much more realistic.


I think the Islamic banks are the most likely source there, especially when they hear about Nick's enlightened views on the Holocaust.

Personally, I enjoyed this discussion of Nick by one of his fellow 9-11 "Truthers":

I'd spent months trying to convince my brother to come along to a lecture or public meeting and take a look at 9/11, eventually I got him along to a talk I'd been largely involved in and was very proud of the tone and success of - A double bill of Calum Douglas and Gordon Ross.

My brother enjoyed it a lot. At the usual meeting at the pub around the corner I caught you out of the corner of my eye walking towards me. I knew what was coming and in panic I swiftly pre-empted:

"This guy's dodgy" I told my brother "Count the seconds before he mentions "The Jews""

And what happened? This:

"Hi Nick"

"Hello Stefan"

"This is my brother Jan"

"Hello"

"Did you enjoy the talk?"

"I did, but why won't Calum make the important point - why won't he just say that Rumsfeld is a Jew?"


Correction note: An earlier version of this post said that Kollerstrom had been at University of Central London. Thanks to emailer Simon for pointing out the error!

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