Saturday, July 22, 2006

The Jim and Jim Show

When conspiracy guru Jim Fetzer interviews fellow conspiracy nut Jim Marr, you know you are in for an interesting time. One could write an entire book on the idiocies of this radio show, but here are the highlights (or lowlights you could say):

Marr: There are so many questions it is hard to know when to begin. But number one of course, we do have the news stories from Europe, that says about half of those 19 hijackers that are STILL named by the FBI as being the 9/11 hijackers those folks are still alive over in the Middle East.
Notice his repeated use of the word "still". Guys, the last news report to claim the hijackers might still be alive was the BBC, on September 23rd, 2001, just 12 days after the attack. Hello!! Welcome to 2006. Over 1700 days have passed since then. How many hijackers have shown up alive in that time period?

Later, during the call-in portion, Jim "I'd beat them with my suitcase" Fetzer puts on his University of Minnesota philosophy department militia hat and calls for us to be armed and prepared for revolt.

Fetzer: Rick I think you are right. My greatest fear is that they are going to use another phony attack to suspend the constitution and turn the American military on the American people. If that day comes, I think we have to be armed and prepared to battle another American Revolution.
The caller, Rick, then hilariously claims that the US is in a deflationary spiral. Yeah, OK... Does Ben Bernanke know about this?

Of course no conspiracy theorist worth his salt can leave out both the evil plots to control our minds, and the Nazi concentration camp comparisons:

Caller: Do you know if they are now putting fluoride in Iraqi water treatment plants?

Marr: Of course. You know, most people don’t realize, but the Nazis put fluoride in the drinking water of concentration camps for the purpose of making the inmates… dumb them down, and make them passive so they wouldn’t try to revolt inside those concentration camps. And of course aluminum fluoride is a waste product of the aluminum industry and after World War II they realized how hazardous it was because what happens when you cook on aluminum cookware, you get Alzheimer’s. So they outlawed it. So what did they do, they launched a campaign through the American Dental association to put it in our drinking water. We are drinking the aluminum industries waste and it is dumbing us down and nobody seems to be paying attention.
Yeah, it was the fluoride that kept them oppressed. The starvation, armed guards, and gas chambers had nothing to do with it... Obviously their attempt to "dumb down" America has worked on some people.

Then of course, we have the typical distortions regarding the PNAC "Rebuilding America's Defenses" document:

Fetzer: Let’s turn to Cort (phonetic) in Alabama. Cort are you there?

Cort: Yes, I am, thank you very much for your work. I just have one question, I’ll listen off the air. I have this Project for a New American Century and I have read it once and I have skimmed it once. And I can’t seem to find the section where it talks about how America needs a new Pearl Harbor. And I can’t think of a better way to wake people up then to show them this document. And so if you could think about that and maybe have another caller call-in call in to talk about it, on the air and give me an answer. I’ll listen of the air. Thank you both for your work.

Fetzer: Oh sure, absolutely.
Uhh... Maybe you can't find it, because it doesn't say "America needs a new Pearl Harbor" anywhere in the document? I have discovered it is surprisingly difficult to find things that DON'T EXIST.

It gets worse, here is their response:

Fetzer: Jim do you know the exact part of the New American Century where that shows up?

Marr: Well, it is in there. Basically, and I am paraphrasing. Maybe at the next break I’ll have a chance to find that. It’s thoroughly covered in my new book “The Terror Conspiracy”. What it is, is that the authors of this report for the New American Century called “Rebuilding America” state that we need to invade Afghanistan, have a regime change in Iraq and increase military presence in the Middle East. Exactly echoing Cheney’s words, but they were a little astute, they said that this is going to be kind of a tough sell unless there is a “catastrophic and catalyzing event like Pearl Harbor”.

Fetzer: Like a New Pearl Harbor, exactly.

Yeah, you are definitely ""paraphrasing". I think that is conspiracy speak, for "I am making most of this up". I'll tell you what. I will pay $1000 cash to anyone who can show me where in the PNAC "Rebuilding America's Defenses" it says that we need to invade Afghanistan. Please, I am dying to know where it is.

Marr goes on from here to discuss how FDR knew about Pearl Harbor ahead of time, the Rothschilds are behind the New World Order, some rather confusing oil conspiracy theories, and even finishes up with an enthusiastic plug for Loose Change. I'll let you listen to those parts, if you want.


At 22 July, 2006 11:13, Blogger shawn said...

I'm surprised these folks can find any more, what with how much they've pulled out of their asses already.

At 22 July, 2006 11:32, Blogger Unknown said...

Hasn't Fetzer been covered enough here.

Does this type of repeated bashing not continue to prove that you are about the "easy mark" rather than finding the truth?

At 22 July, 2006 11:34, Blogger Alex said...

Sure, then find us a better mark BG.

At 22 July, 2006 11:39, Blogger Manny said...

Sure, then find us a better mark BG.

Heh. I'll take "Questions which answer themselves" for $500, Alex.

At 22 July, 2006 12:00, Blogger James B. said...

Actually it was mostly on Marr, who I have never discussed before. Is it my fault that conspiracy theorists always say ridiculous things?

I'll tell you what BG, as soon as they stop lying and saying stupid things, I will move on to other topics.

At 22 July, 2006 12:04, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...


The reason Fetzer gets nailed so much here is because:

(1) He is supposedly one of the top guys for the "Truth Movement", co-founder of the "Scholars" who are suppose to be the most serious and the most dedicated of the lot.

(2) the guy never shuts up about the same stuff, that I think half of his people don't even believe any more.

The guy, IMHO is a loud mouth quack without any research skills, no qualifications to talk on anything but his own speculation, and perhaps how good the Minnisota Twins are.

At 22 July, 2006 13:37, Blogger CHF said...

They still believe the hijackers are alive???

These people just don't want to learn.

At 22 July, 2006 15:11, Blogger Dog Town said...

BG is just bored.Hey how was fetzer in Big D.Did he blow your mind,or did you blow him?I mean his?

At 22 July, 2006 17:18, Blogger Avery Dylan said...

Like hey man, if half of the hijackers are still alive, how did the other half die?

I mean if there were no planes, like at the Pentagon, ALL of them should be alive, or half alive.

Hey, did you know this is going to be a good year for the truth?

At 22 July, 2006 23:13, Blogger Dog Town said...

These hicks sound like a timex commercial!You think they would at least coach them to sound as if they were not butchering a script!It is funny ,however!

At 23 July, 2006 11:55, Blogger default.xbe said...

These hicks sound like a timex commercial!You think they would at least coach them to sound as if they were not butchering a script!It is funny ,however!

just like their claims that are debinked over and over again, it takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'

At 23 July, 2006 12:30, Blogger Dog Town said...

"just like their claims that are debinked over and over again, it takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin' "

-I guess it must be "Oldtimers" they forget from one minute to the next,how stupid they sound.Keep sending up the same bad theories!You know like KillClown and BG!

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