Thursday, July 20, 2006

Suckers!

Dylan put the following video up on his blog today, apparently thinking this is great evidence:



The big news here is that Jack Kelley claims that his sources told him that the FBI thought that as the planes hit the WTC towers, that trucks packed with explosives went off at the same time. Intriguing story, and it may even be true that was an early theory. But....

As I mentioned the other day, neither James nor I have commented on Dylan's girlfriend on this blog, despite his paranoid claims to the contrary. Why? Because she's irrelevant to the topic we're discussing. Dylan himself is frequently irrelevant; he's not the issue here, it's the outrageous claims he makes in his movie. Unlike, say, Eric Hufschmid, I don't care if he goes out drinking with his buddies at the end of a long day. I did too when his age.

But here's a case where I'd say that Dylan's relative youth is relevant, because he's obviously not been a news consumer for a long time. Nobody who's been paying attention the last couple of years would link to a video where Jack Kelley of USA Today makes interesting claims about what "sources" told him. Why? Because he was fired from his job at USA Today for making up sources!

When neither the newspaper nor Kelley could verify a story he reported in Belgrade in 1999, Kelley essentially invented a witness to corroborate the account, the editors said in a statement published on the newspaper's Web site.

What's next, citing Jayson Blair and Stephen Glass?

24 Comments:

At 20 July, 2006 18:25, Blogger dman said...

Was reading some previews of Oliver
Stone new movie "WORLD TRADE
CENTER" - CT's are going ballistic
that Stone rather than going off
and inventing some weird
conspiracy fantasy ala "JFK" is
staying with the facts like
"UNITED 93". Here is post from
whackjob having a tantrum.

(cue music from TWILIGHT ZONE )

9/11 Conspiracy Theorists Denounce Oliver Stone’s film ‘World Trade Center’ as Whitewash and Part of Cover-Up

by John Conner
TheResistanceManifesto.com


When I first heard that Oliver Stone was directing a film about 9/11 , I was overjoyed. I thought that Oliver Stone would blow the lid off the 9/11 Inside Job to the masses in a historic cinematic event toping his ‘JFK’ (1991) which would send shockwaves throughout the world and make Fahrenheit 9/11 look like a Bush campaign add in comparison. Well, as word got out about ‘World Trade Center’ (2006) there were shockwaves. Shockwaves of disappointment, disgust, and disbelief. Oliver Stone not only missed the mark, it appears he’s fighting for the wrong team.

It blows my mind that the ‘JFK conspiracy’ of 21st century could be missed by Stone. Instead of producing, a dramatized version of the events depicting the inside job and Illuminati elements within our own government planning and carrying out the attacks, Stone chose to depict the true story surrounding two port authority workers (John McLoughlin and William J. Jimeno) who were the last survivors to be pulled from the rubble. The subtitle for the film is 'A True Story of Courage and Survival' and stars Nicolas Cage.

The trailer for ‘World Trade Center’ is so graphic and emotionally charged that a warning went out cautioning viewers of scenes with falling debris inside offices, firefighters falling to the ground, and people trapped under the rubble of the collapsed towers.

Was Stone used by the Illuminati as an unknowing pawn to whitewash the 9/11 conspiracy theories to the masses? Was he approached with the project and coerced into a commitment to occupy his time in attempts to thwart any other 9/11 angle from being used? Is Stone a pawn in the game? Perhaps Stone didn’t know at the time, and found out too late. Perhaps production had begun, and he was already on board when he found the 9/11 rabbit hole.

Shortly after Charlie Sheen was viciously attacked for voicing questions surrounding the official story of the September 11th attacks, Oliver Stone popped up in the mainstream media in what appeared to be a defense of Sheen saying, "We're Hollywood wackos and all that stuff, left-wing... (It's) an easy and facile dismissal. "I'm still a citizen, I've served my country as a veteran, I've had many jobs before the film business. I know something of life, having lived to this age. "We have a right to speak and every time we speak: 'You're an actor, a showbusiness director,' we're making it up! "This is not a way of dealing with people. This is slander."

I can’t express how let down I feel. For months I had waited to get word about what exactly Oliver Stone was working on, and thought he would be the one to bring 9/11 Truth to the masses by bypassing all mockingbird control systems with his own maverick film without being stopped. It is sad that Oliver Stone has directed a film with all the hallmarks of illuminati propaganda. Stone of all people to direct this garbage! Unbelievable! I feel betrayed.

The bright side is films like ‘Flight 93’ and Oliver Stone’s ‘World Trade Center’ present great opportunities to bring up 9/11 Truth to others. While most of the public has long forgotten 9/11, these films will bring the issues to the forefront again on radio talk shows, cable TV, and around the water coolers and should be taken full advantage of to correct the misconceptions regarding the September 11th Inside Job.


John Conner
TheResistanceManifesto.com

 
At 20 July, 2006 18:38, Blogger Pat said...

God, what a nutbar Conner is. Have you seen the video where he runs out into traffic while shouting "9-11 was an inside job!"? Not to be missed.

 
At 20 July, 2006 18:43, Blogger Killtown said...

I guess Rick Sanchez made up the same story too, huh?

 
At 20 July, 2006 18:45, Blogger shawn said...

Killtown is back, yes!

Now where's nesnyc? I need a good laugh.

 
At 20 July, 2006 18:51, Blogger apathoid said...

I guess Rick Sanchez made up the same story too, huh?

Yes, he did. Next question??

 
At 20 July, 2006 18:54, Blogger Avery Dylan said...

Like hey man, I mean and the reporter chick? She said BATTLESHIPS, and I mean, there are no battleships any more, so did she know there were battleships and nobody told me?

I mean, and how did he know about the bombs in New York, like when he was in Washington? Cause he knew!

 
At 20 July, 2006 19:36, Blogger undense said...

So John Conner is upset because Charlie Sheen is not cast in the starring role?

Am I missing something here? ;)

 
At 20 July, 2006 19:40, Blogger Manny said...

John Connor? The guy call himself John Connor? BAHHH HAHAHAHAHAHA! "Hasta la vista, baby." "I order you! I order you not to go, Terminator!"

 
At 20 July, 2006 19:57, Blogger default.xbe said...

Come with me if you want to live.

:)

 
At 20 July, 2006 19:59, Blogger Murdervillage said...

Killtown, I'm officially pissed at you now. It's been a couple of weeks and you haven't sent me the link to those interviews you did with the first responders and others at the crash scenes.

I'll give you one more chance, and if you don't come through I'm going to spread the word far and wide about you.

 
At 20 July, 2006 20:19, Blogger undense said...

John Connor? The guy call himself John Connor? BAHHH HAHAHAHAHAHA! "Hasta la vista, baby." "I order you! I order you not to go, Terminator!"

Well you've got others over there at LC named RedPillNeo or something like that, then we've got the guy citing spy codenames from movies, so you can see how much Hollywood has had an impression on these folks.

That's the real common thread between the LC types and most other people. It's not so much the hatred of Bush, or the Illuminati, the Jews, or a lack of education that they all have in common. It's that they seemingly have such difficulty separating fantasy from reality.

 
At 20 July, 2006 20:25, Blogger shawn said...

John Connor leads the resistance to victory.

- T-101 (the third one)

 
At 20 July, 2006 20:36, Blogger Avery Dylan said...

like hey man, I can't take it down I just got it up, I mean, so the source is a little wonky, but like I said at the bottom of the page -

Nothing to see here people.

 
At 21 July, 2006 04:40, Blogger Alex said...

When I first heard that Oliver Stone was directing a film about 9/11 , I was overjoyed. I thought that Oliver Stone would blow the lid off the 9/11 Inside Job to the masses in a historic cinematic event toping his ‘JFK’ (1991) which would send shockwaves throughout the world and make Fahrenheit 9/11 look like a Bush campaign add in comparison.

Heh. Problem is, the JFK CT at least had a semi-logical theory about what happened and in what order it happened. Might have been wrong, but at least it seemed plausable nad had a structured flow to it. Whereas the 9/11 CT shouldn't even really be called a "theory" because none of the CT nuts can agree on what actually happened. Therefore even if Oliver Stone wanted to make a movie from the CT viewpoint, and even if he could figure out how to take a handful of theories and put them into a semi-logical seeming theory...what exactly would he film? No matter how he structures the film, 80% or more of the CT movement will be pissed that he didn't include THEIR pet theories, or that he included "obviously wrong" theories.

 
At 21 July, 2006 05:01, Blogger MarkyX said...

I just want to thank Dylan Avery for showing us yet again that his generation (the one I'm part in, unfortunately) shows their lack of perception skills and take anything from the media as face-value without question.

And the dumbass call us the sheep and shill.

 
At 21 July, 2006 09:14, Blogger Jujigatami said...

FAKE BUT ACCURATE!!!

FAKE BUT ACCURATE!!!

FAKE BUT ACCURATE!!!

AAAAARRRRGGGHHHHH.....

 
At 21 July, 2006 11:22, Blogger Chad said...

I just want to thank Dylan Avery for showing us yet again that his generation (the one I'm part in, unfortunately) shows their lack of perception skills and take anything from the media as face-value without question.

I'm officially at a loss. Are we, or are we not, supposed to trust mainstream media?

KT? Nessie? Dylan? (is that you?)

 
At 21 July, 2006 11:28, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

What bothers me about Conners comments, is that he calls the film garbage, and iluminati propaganda, yet the vast majority of the film is about two men, two firefighters who faught to save people on 9/11 REGARDLESS of who caused the events of the day.

Conners, you can feel betrayed and go cry to mommy because your former hero didn't make a slick version of LC for you, but you have no right to defame or slander the courageous efforts of those two men portrayed in the film.

 
At 22 July, 2006 04:03, Blogger JoanBasil said...

Jack Kelley's ethics are just typical of what the public gets from the news media and our government. Bush and Cheney and the whole administration lied us into the Iraq war with fake sources and the media went right along with the lies and we all know that for a fact now. They most likely lied us into 2 wars.

But I do notice one thing in that video that stands out in light of recent events. Kelley says that "only Osama bin Laden has the capability to carry out multiple sophisticated attacks." Well, its all over the news the last few days that Hezbollah is MORE capable than Al Qaeda ever was and that Hezbollah has cells all over the world. So which is it. Really, they'll say anything (our government and media), whatever they think helps the vicious murdering plan they want to accomplish at the time.

 
At 22 July, 2006 09:28, Blogger shawn said...

They most likely lied us into 2 wars.

Joan, I'm gonna let you in on a little secret. Afghanistan was inarguably justified. No ifs, ands, or buts.

Well, its all over the news the last few days that Hezbollah is MORE capable than Al Qaeda ever was and that Hezbollah has cells all over the world. So which is it. Really, they'll say anything (our government and media), whatever they think helps the vicious murdering plan they want to accomplish at the time.


Uh Joan does the government coordinate all the attacks? They must be pretty busy with 5000+ in the past five years. Both groups have cells elsewhere, but when's the last time Hizbollah killed 3000 people in one day? They seem content in lobbing rockets at border towns to kill children unprovoked.

 
At 22 July, 2006 13:35, Blogger Alex said...

Joan, I'm gonna let you in on a little secret. Afghanistan was inarguably justified. No ifs, ands, or buts.

But see, if you've convinced yourself that the CIA hired the Kibbler Elves to knock down the WTC, then it makes perfect sense to beleive that we were lied in to the war in Afghanistan.

 
At 23 July, 2006 08:02, Blogger Rowe_Korey said...

Dylan,

Is that you?

 
At 23 July, 2006 22:44, Blogger Decider said...

Man there sure are a lot of sheep in here. I hope Oliver Stone put in Bush's lies about how he saw the first plane hit the towers on a TV monitor in the school. And why do you still take the photo-op? And then continue to sit there after hearing about a second plane. And then stay at the school for 40 minutes and then tell the whole school America is under attack. Oh and in the meantime putting lives in danger just by being at the school. Unless of course you know there is no danger.

 
At 24 July, 2006 07:07, Blogger Alex said...

Well thanks for the great breakdown, Superman, but I have one question: why weren't YOU saving metropolis on 9/11?

 

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