Thursday, July 20, 2006

The Danger of Pretending to be an Expert

Is illuminated marvelously on this thread on a professional pilot's forum. A poster named Anatomist demonstrates his cut and paste skills, claiming that 757s and 767s (which he hilariously refers to as "commuter aircraft" can takeoff and land via remote control, and about a dozen other things. By the time the pilots get through with him, all that's left is a skeleton.

Hat Tip: Longtime SLC reader Markyx at the JREF Forum.

17 Comments:

At 20 July, 2006 10:07, Blogger MarkyX said...

No Hat tip ? :(

 
At 20 July, 2006 10:28, Blogger JoanBasil said...

I clicked on "Register" for the Professional Pilots Rumour Network and it looks like I could register even though I hate flying. Anybody can register and theres no good reason to vouch for any of the posts.

 
At 20 July, 2006 10:48, Blogger James B. said...

That is pretty funny.

Eight of the hijackers who were on those planes called up complaining that they were still alive. I'd bet you never heard about our foreign minister flying to Morocco and issuing an official apology to the accused, did you?

I thought it was only 5, 6, or 7? By the way, since when did the United States have a foreign minister?

My official title: MOS33Q10, Electronic Warfare Intercept Strategic Signal Processing/Storage Systems Specialist, a highly skilled MOS which requires advanced knowledge of many communications methods and circuits to the most minute level.

I have a friend who was a 33 series before he turned warrant. This job doesn't involve "advanced knowledge" of circuitry. It is essentially a computer repair job, you reformat harddrives and such. The 10 at the end, by the way, designates the lowest level, meaning he never got above the rank of specialist (E-4)

 
At 20 July, 2006 10:49, Blogger Murdervillage said...

There's a dissenting view on the second page

While its true that a B757 or B767 can take off, fly an FMS planned route and land without a pilot at the controls (among my other attributes, I'm a B757/B767 rated avionics engineer - trust me) the idea that its control systems have inbuilt limits that cannot be over-ridden by a pilot are pure fantasy.

 
At 20 July, 2006 10:59, Blogger Pat said...

Markyx, I was in a rush to get that one posted before leaving for the office. I've added the hat tip (before I checked the comments, I might add).

 
At 20 July, 2006 10:59, Blogger MarkyX said...

joan, why don't you do some investigation and talk the posters claiming to be pilot?

Oh I forgot, that would involve work and destroying your belief.

 
At 20 July, 2006 12:04, Blogger Avery Dylan said...

Like hey, man, I mean, why would you need to be an expert, if you have common sense?

I mean when things are obvious, anyone can be an expert.

Hey - hat tips - anybody want to buy a Loose Change Final Cut Hat?

 
At 20 July, 2006 12:20, Blogger apathoid said...

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At 20 July, 2006 12:25, Blogger apathoid said...

I clicked on "Register" for the Professional Pilots Rumour Network and it looks like I could register even though I hate flying. Anybody can register and theres no good reason to vouch for any of the posts.

Trust me Joan, most of those who are registerd at pprune are not only pilots, but pros. I've been going to that site for years and poseurs get unmasked very quickly there...

 
At 20 July, 2006 12:32, Blogger apathoid said...

While its true that a B757 or B767 can take off, fly an FMS planned route and land without a pilot at the controls (among my other attributes, I'm a B757/B767 rated avionics engineer - trust me) the idea that its control systems have inbuilt limits that cannot be over-ridden by a pilot are pure fantasy.

MV, thats incorrect. I'm also an avionics tech. who has been to every 767/757/Autopilot school my employer has to offer and there is no system that can perform an automatic takeoff....
The part about the software limits is 100% accurate, though. Its the Airbii that have limits that cannot be exceeded by pilot. On Boeings, the pilot can do whatever he/she likes with the airplane...even rolls !

 
At 20 July, 2006 12:59, Blogger BG said...

apathoid,

Interesting info. Thanks

 
At 20 July, 2006 13:50, Blogger undense said...

bg,

When are going to answer my question regarding the airphone/cellphone issue?

If you haven't seen it, I'll post it yet again:

What was the altitude of the flight bg?

 
At 20 July, 2006 13:53, Blogger CHF said...

This whole thing has been repeated on the net a thousand times.

CTer spouts off mindless crap about things he/she knows nothing about. Sane people then set them straight, and which point the CTer runs way.

The latest example around here is BG's "unanswered questions" regarding 9/11 phone calls.

 
At 20 July, 2006 14:00, Blogger undense said...

CTer spouts off mindless crap about things he/she knows nothing about. Sane people then set them straight, and which point the CTer runs way.

Just to add to that - "and which point the CTer runs way and subsequently regurgitates the same old debunked garbage later on down the road."

We already saw that with bg's "list." It was loaded full of CT talking points that have been thoroughly debunked, but bg acts as if they are still valid. He claims to have done years of "research" (which I suspect is his terminology for describing bookmarking links to websites), yet he has apparently done ZERO research on absolutely anything that that contradicts his pov.

That's not the scientific method and that's not the way to go about forming a rational, learned, valid opinion of anything.

 
At 20 July, 2006 14:05, Blogger Rowe_Korey said...

Dylan,

Is that you?

 
At 20 July, 2006 18:44, Blogger undense said...

"Well s'prise, s'prise"

/gomer pyle

No response once again from bg.

C'mon bg. If you know as much as you claim about 9/11 you should be able to engage someone and debate the details of the issues. Why do you consistently avoid doing that?

 
At 21 July, 2006 14:03, Blogger CHF said...

undense...

Give BG some time, man.

He's currently searching the net this very minute for his rebutal on airphones and cell phones at low-altitude.

In a few days (after finding nothing) he'll link us to a 3-hour Alex Jones acid trip.

Same story, different day.

 

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