Wednesday, May 17, 2006

Michelle Malkin Connects Some Dots

In today's Vent, she notes a forgotten connection between the 9-11 hijackers and the illegal alien debate.

35 Comments:

At 17 May, 2006 09:51, Blogger nesNYC said...

What a distraction and how distracted are those Hot Air folks? The so called "hijackers" (CIA operatives and possibly drug mules) got in the US through legal means. Weather they had phony ID's or not is inconsequential. The fact that they got into the US at all when red flags were raised BEFORE they even left the Middle East is a FACT that those looking for a fall guy(s) (the illegal immigrants) seem to forget or are simply ignorant about.

Read here about Atta, Abramoff and the inner workings of the 9/11 clique that shows they were anything but "Jihadists."

 
At 17 May, 2006 09:56, Blogger BG said...

Thanks for your comment, nesnyc.

For more information about how serious our Administration has been about real security, read Clark Kent Ervin
(from Amazon)
From Publishers Weekly
Appointed acting inspector general of the Department of Homeland Security in January 2003, Ervin left after 18 months when Congress refused to confirm him. The reason, he writes, is that he did his job too well, pointing out so much mismanagement and so many security lapses that the bureaucracy turned against him. Ervin sounds the alarm and attempts to settle scores in this book, a detailed warning that America remains frighteningly vulnerable to terrorism. Ervin explores the homeland's weaknesses, describes what the DHS should be doing and how it falls short. Ports, airlines, "soft targets" such as stadiums and critical infrastructure like the water supply must be further secured, as must mass transit (which receives a fraction the funding aviation does). Fragmented intelligence allowed the 9/11 plotters to succeed, but the DHS has not yet achieved coordination of intelligence. Finally, the massive DHS budget requires the establishment of strict accounting and antifraud policies. Though the author notes progress in some areas, he thinks the department has made woefully inadequate headway, is incompetently administered and starved for funds. Ervin's criticisms ring true, and they were well covered in the media, but readers may prefer an account less colored by personal feeling.

 
At 17 May, 2006 09:57, Blogger ScottSl said...

Here's what Atta's lovely father has to say

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/07/19/atta.father.terror/index.html

"El-Amir said the attacks in the United States and the July 7 attacks in London were the beginning of what would be a 50-year religious war, in which there would be many more fighters like his son."

 
At 17 May, 2006 10:00, Blogger James B. said...

But I thought his son wasn't a fighter? According to the CTs his father claimed he was innocent and still alive.

 
At 17 May, 2006 10:04, Blogger nesNYC said...

Scottsl, Atta's father also said he spoke to his son on 9/12.. Go figure :D

 
At 17 May, 2006 10:06, Blogger BG said...

You are right, James, the words from Atta's Father have been contradictory.

A real 9/11 investigation would get people like this under oath. I don't claim a steps like this would break open the case, but could help clarify a few details.

 
At 17 May, 2006 10:08, Blogger ScottSl said...

Seems not to be the case anymore LOL!!

 
At 17 May, 2006 10:08, Blogger nesNYC said...

But I thought his son wasn't a fighter? According to the CTs his father claimed he was innocent and still alive.

Truth is, his father didn't really know what his son was up to. So to hold him in some heroic image is more palatable then realizing the truth that his son was just an ordinary criminal.

But you should read how many times Atta boarded Abramoff’s gambling boat. That connection is solidly established.

 
At 17 May, 2006 10:09, Blogger BG said...

More on Security. Breaking News: Bush administration still not using enought police state tactics to shut down leaks: U.S. secretly backing warlords in Somalia
Self-styled anti-terror coalition fighting Islamic groups for control of capital

 
At 17 May, 2006 10:13, Blogger James B. said...

Oh yeah, I am sure we are going to get Egypt to extradite their citizens to put them under oath for testimony. That will go over really well.

 
At 17 May, 2006 10:14, Blogger BG said...

nesnyc:

I'm not sure that we even should assume that the Atta in Florida was really an same Atta as first id'ed in Germany, the Atta in Brocklyn, or the son of the Atta in Egypt that has been identified as M. Atta's Father.

Hopsicker has done amazing work. But, but the fact that he seems to think that there were really hijackers that died on the planes on 9/11 hobbles the ability of his research to connect all the dots.

 
At 17 May, 2006 10:15, Blogger James B. said...

LOL That is your source? Mad Cow Morning News? Well at least it isn't a neo-Nazi publication. So what if he went gambling? I have gone gambling too, I must be in on the plot!

 
At 17 May, 2006 10:15, Blogger nesNYC said...

Here's what Atta's father said in 2002:

Father insists alleged leader is still alive

 
At 17 May, 2006 10:17, Blogger BG said...

James,

Hope you are noticing that I'm trying to give credit where credit is due. This supports your point.

 
At 17 May, 2006 10:18, Blogger nesNYC said...

So what if he went gambling?

You're not a "Jihadist." No Muslims are forbidden to gamble especially those fanatical enough to commit a suicide attack, so I'm told.

 
At 17 May, 2006 10:18, Blogger BG said...

James,

Come on now. Hopsicker was pointing to Abramoff way before he was indicted. You are saying this was nothing?

 
At 17 May, 2006 10:22, Blogger James B. said...

No Muslims are forbidden to gamble especially those fanatical enough to commit a suicide attack, so I'm told.


So? Islam also forbids the mass slaughter of civilians too, they seem to have missed that part. Having lived in two different Muslim countries, and been offered drinks on numerous occasions, I can testify to the hypocrisy. Check out the stats for web page hits on adult sites coming from Saudi Arabia.

 
At 17 May, 2006 10:24, Blogger ScottSl said...

Truth is a lot of the hijackers confessed on a video tape years ago.

http://ee.1asphost.com/raehatualmisk/19.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/monitoring/media_reports/1931523.stm

Attas father seems to have finally come clean.

 
At 17 May, 2006 10:28, Blogger nesNYC said...

Right BG, there could be mistaken identity there. But there is a possibility that the real Atta might have gotten on the plane, but we can never be sure. But it's possible because I feel Atta was just a drug mule/intel. op transporting either money or drugs to different places in the US. He and his accomplices could then easily have been used to "appear" to be terrorists and be blamed for the 9/11 attacks. His actions leading up to that date definitely tell a different tale than that told by the mainstream press about him being a "fanatical Muslim."

 
At 17 May, 2006 10:29, Blogger BG said...

ScottS:

Yep, and Moussaui pleaded guilty too.

Confessions in this context mean nothing.

 
At 17 May, 2006 10:30, Blogger undense said...

But you should read how many times Atta boarded Abramoff’s gambling boat. That connection is solidly established.

So you visit aangirfan, a blog from Monaco? Well, since Monaco is next to France and you visit that site; using your methods of correlation and 6 degrees of separation, we can only assume you are a secret agent hired by, and have a close business relationship with, Jacque Chirac.

 
At 17 May, 2006 10:31, Blogger nesNYC said...

So? Islam also forbids the mass slaughter of civilians too, they seem to have missed that part. Having lived in two different Muslim countries, and been offered drinks on numerous occasions, I can testify to the hypocrisy. Check out the stats for web page hits on adult sites coming from Saudi Arabia.

But you're talking about fanatical Muslims who supposedly adhere to the letter of their religion. If they were fanatical enough to kill themselves in an operation of this kind, how do you explain their behavior right before the attacks? Answer, they were not fanatical Muslims and possibly set up to look like it.

 
At 17 May, 2006 10:32, Blogger BG said...

ScottS:
I went to
http://ee.1asphost.com/raehatualmisk/19.html

It's nice to see that at least some of our intelligence service personnel are proficient at HTML.

 
At 17 May, 2006 10:36, Blogger undense said...

But you're talking about fanatical Muslims who supposedly adhere to the letter of their religion. If they were fanatical enough to kill themselves in an operation of this kind, how do you explain their behavior right before the attacks? Answer, they were not fanatical Muslims and possibly set up to look like it.


It's also possible that they talked the talk but did not walk the walk. Do you know how many supposedly devout Muslims from Saudi Arabia regularly go to Vegas to booze it up and chase ho's? It's not a rare occurence.

 
At 17 May, 2006 11:01, Blogger BG said...

I agree that we can argue back and forth about the hijackers forever basing the argument on whether the alleged hijackers were / were not devout.... blah blah.

As I have said before, part of Hopsicker's spin actually steers us away from the most likely truth as I see it.

 
At 17 May, 2006 11:05, Blogger nesNYC said...

Do you know how many supposedly devout Muslims from Saudi Arabia regularly go to Vegas to booze it up and chase ho's? It's not a rare occurence.

That's completely different than giving your life for a cause you believe in. I bet none of the above you describe would ever do something as selfless as giving their lives for their religion. The above group can be likened to the likes of Jerry Falwell or Pat Roberson; two faced sons of bitches.

 
At 17 May, 2006 11:11, Blogger undense said...

That's completely different than giving your life for a cause you believe in. I bet none of the above you describe would ever do something as selfless as giving their lives for their religion. The above group can be likened to the likes of Jerry Falwell or Pat Roberson; two faced sons of bitches.

Maybe it's just me but, imo, giving your life for a religion is not selfless, it's the height of idiocy and the mark of an insane mind.

 
At 17 May, 2006 11:13, Blogger BG said...

Daniel Hopsicker has another world exclusive

 
At 17 May, 2006 11:51, Blogger nesNYC said...

Maybe it's just me but, imo, giving your life for a religion is not selfless, it's the height of idiocy and the mark of an insane mind.

Don't forget sociopath. Gambling and living it up do not fit in that category.

But I disagree with you on giving your life up for what you believe. Christian history is dominated by martyrs. Take Joan of Arc as a quick example.

But also to point out the sheer idiocy of the so called "suicide jihadist." There really is no such thing and a Zionist fabrication pushed by the Media and Hollywood.

 
At 17 May, 2006 12:02, Blogger Pat said...

BG, you're going to get Atta's father under oath how?

Love that Aangirfan site; especially the part where they identify Abramoff as "an observant Jew". It always helps to know who the Joooooos are in the story.

 
At 17 May, 2006 12:35, Blogger undense said...

But also to point out the sheer idiocy of the so called "suicide jihadist." There really is no such thing and a Zionist fabrication pushed by the Media and Hollywood.

I see. So you're either a Muslim apologist in complete denial or a white supremacist.

Got it. Either way you're a kook. Thanks for making that clear.

 
At 17 May, 2006 12:43, Blogger BG said...

Pat,

Your comment was fair about my comment about M. Atta Father, who I think resides in Egypt.

This got me curious. Why is it that our relations are so bad with Egypt. Just a quick google search and I found this report from 2003. Here's a quote:

Egyptian officials rejected the
NTSB report. (refering to EgyptAir 990).

Hmmm, seems like not just concerned Americans have a beef with NTSB investigations.

 
At 17 May, 2006 13:00, Blogger nesNYC said...

I see. So you're either a Muslim apologist in complete denial or a white supremacist.

Got it. Either way you're a kook. Thanks for making that clear.


LOL! May seem "kooky" but did you ever stop and wonder why so many "suicide bombings" happen in Israel and no other place where Jews reside? Could it be it is easier for them to set it up to look like a fanatical Arab blew himself up and then control the security apparatus to make the facts 'fit' together? I mean, Atta was supposed to have a cell in Brooklyn NY, why hasn't one of these "blown up" in the Subways here yet? Could it be that US cops might actually figure out who really did this? Basically, terrorism in the US will be confined to large scale, full controllable and RARE operations unlike is now happening in Israel and Iraq. There were no "suicide" attackers in Iraq during Saddam, that's a fact. Only when the US came-a-marching in with their Israeli "advisors" did you see this Zionist fabrication materialize.

 
At 17 May, 2006 13:53, Blogger undense said...

So there are no jews in London, or Madrid? I'll bet you think all the jews in NYC on 9/11 had prior warning too, eh? And the Arabs have never been aggressive towards Israel? I suppose all the times the Arabs have had military conflicts with Israel (and got their asses handed back to them) were all creations of the Zionist media as well?

I guess Saddam was completely fooled too when he was cutting those $25,000 checks? All those Palestinian funerals for the dopes them blow themselves up are all fantasy creations of the jew-controlled media too?

But you're correct. There is no such thing as suicide bombers. They are homocide bombers and murderous thugs, nothing more.

You, sir, are a debilitated victim of your own paranoid mind.

 
At 17 May, 2006 14:11, Blogger Alex said...

"No Muslims are forbidden to gamble especially those fanatical enough to commit a suicide attack, so I'm told. "

God DAMN you're ignorant. The whole point of "martyrdom" is that it grants you entry into heaven, plus all the perks promised to "martyrs", regaurdless of any wrongdoings in your life. In other words, a muslim could go out, get shitfaced, do any kind of drug he could get his hands on, screw 5 women, 3 men, and 4 goats, and piss all over the Quaran, and as long as he flew an airplane into a building full of infidels the next day, all is forgiven. That's some pretty damn good motivation right there. Assuming you actually BELEIVE all that nonsense, what possible reason would you have NOT to go out and gamble, drink, and fuck?

 

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