Jim Fetzer: Time Traveler
I just noticed this from Pat's transcript of the Fetzer interview:
Colmes: Who was in them?
Fetzer: Well, that’s a very interesting question, who was in them. We can explain a lot, without being able to explain everything. My opinion, about those planes, is that they were probably military versions that were refueling tankers of 767s so they carry more fuel.
There is just one problem. The Air Force did not have 767 tankers in September 2001. In fact they still don't have them. There was a plan in 2002 to lease 100 of them, but it was cancelled because of a bribery scandal. The first military to purchase the tanker version of the 767 was the Italian Air Force, and they weren't supposed to get them until 2005:
The first production Boeing 767-200 destined for military tanker duty is scheduled to fly from the Commercial Airplane Group’s Everett, Washington facility to Wichita, Kansas, on July 16, where the company plans to perform the conversion for the Italian air force in time for delivery in 2005. The contract with Italy for four of the airplanes, signed late last year, calls for the delivery of the final three examples to Italian aerostructures builder Aeronovali, which, under the terms of the deal, will assume conversion responsibility.
But hey, you have written 27 books, don't let the fact that something is impossible keep you from making your theory.
posted by James B. @ 11:20 AM
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22 Comments:
Why would the military use its own documented craft in the attack? Why not CIA or another agency we might not know about with this type of clearance? It's pretty doubtful they would leave a paper trail leading right to themselves out in broad daylight like you're assuming would be done.
My opinion, about those planes, is that they were probably military *versions* that were refueling tankers of 767s so they carry more fuel.
Key words, "military VERSIONS" not actual military craft. You do understand the Pentagon has missing trillions unaccounted for in money and equipment do you?
Boeing hadn't even produced them yet genius. And since when did the CIA use tankers?
Your using a logical falacy. Just because someone does something bad doesn't mean that they always do bad things. I'm really tired of people trying to point out that the government isnt a pure or perfect institution. I'm well aware of that but just because you think a bunch of people are evil that they MUST HAVE caused 9/11 doesn't add up.
you're arguing something that makes no sense: that the evil people in our government who pulled off the 9/11 attacks tell you the truth about everything else they do.
So now the Boeing Company is behind it? Damn, I live in Seattle. I may be involved too.
It's pretty doubtful they would leave a paper trail leading right to themselves out in broad daylight like you're assuming would be done.
Well isn't that what your assuming whenever you bring up the quote "pull it?" Or mention that the military uses thermate? Or Loose Changes bit about the UAV? All you guys do is speculate on technology thats based on real world stuff. Have any proof that they were militarized 767's?
Trillions?! hahaha nesnyc, don't go hyperbolic on us.
Your using a logical falacy.
Yup, they're arguing the consequent. "9/11 was an inside job, so obviously they'd lie about anything related to that, so you can't disprove us." It's also circular logic.
Why would the military use its own documented craft in the attack?
Well he's arguing that they used military craft that don't exist. It's like saying they flew Auroras into the towers.
It also makes the attack hopelessly complicated and open to a huge margin of error. Instead of suiciding the hijacked planes, you land them, and then send tankers into the towers. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. You morons don't even latch on to the "realistic" conspiracy theories.
Let's get this straight. They spent billions of dollars, not mention involving hundreds of workers, to build this assembly line to secretly convert 767s into tankers, just so they can go to all the trouble of disguising them back as the civilian version of the 767 anyway.
Yeah, that makes sense.
It's pretty doubtful they would leave a paper trail leading right to themselves out in broad daylight like you're assuming would be done.
But isn't that exactly what you people claim they did with the Northwoods declassification and PNAC? Left themselves out in broad daylight?
Explain that one for me Nessie.
Also, if they used "thermate cutter charges" etc to bring the buildings down what is the point of having tankers fly into the buildings? If you guys are so positive that fires and damage to the buildings wasn't enough to bring them down why use even more of that silly stuff called jet fuel? You guys need to take a recess for a few months, gather your "facts" and come up with an official story.
So now the Boeing Company is behind it?
I'm curious how many "surplus" aircraft got sent to Israel. Does anyone here know for sure or would we run into a "classified" brick wall if we tried to find out?
So now the Boeing Company is behind it? Damn, I live in Seattle. I may be involved too.
How did you jump to that conclusion, no one here has.
every 767 ever built is accounted for unless you think Boeing is in on this?
Why are you so sure about this? Didn't I just say the Pentagon had "clerical" errors totaling 2.2 trillion? Why do things need to be spelled out for you? Why can't you figure this out on your own? It’s really not that hard if you use your brain a bit.
So now the Boeing Company is behind it? Damn, I live in Seattle. I may be involved too.
How did you jump to that conclusion, no one here has.
Where do you think the Pentagon would get KC-767s 4 years before they were manufactured, WalMart?
Hundred million dollar Aircraft don't just go "missing" numbnuts. I suppose you think an aircraft carrier could also go missing tomorrow without anyone noticing.
Hundred million dollar Aircraft don't just go "missing" numbnuts. I suppose you think an aircraft carrier could also go missing tomorrow without anyone noticing.
Philadelphia Experiment!
especially if the operation is a perpetual war
Wars tend to end when you win them. Or lose them.
It's a little early to be saying "perpetual" war. I'd put good money on my kids learning about the "war" (really a series of wars) in their history classes. When my dad was born, the Cold War had barely begun and by the time I was old enough to understand it, it had been over for years
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23 helicopters were stolen from the sheriff's department of charlotte county
Source maybe?
"No mention of 23 helicopters(doesnt this seem like an absurdly high number?)"
That's because they crashed those 23 helicopters into the pentagon. You didn't really expect them to talk about that, did you?
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