How a CT Mind Operates
This is truly a marvelous example of the way CTers tie themselves into knots with their "logic".
It just struck me the other night while looking at the below pics that show a piece of a plane fuselage on a wtc building roof that Mark Burnback claimed the plane didn't have windows and yet look what we see below.
Now, either we have a case where a witness is lying or we have evidence planted to lead us to believe it was from a plane - with windows. Of course Burnback could simply be mistaken but the word is out already that a fuel tanker is what hit the tower.
Of course if we have a plane with windows that would also suggest the part was planted because we KNOW that 19 arabs with boxcutters didn't hijack the planes. What this means is that we clearly have a piece of planted evidence.
Okay, so Burnback (sic) didn't lie, right? Because he saw a plane with no windows and the Loosers have decided that's exactly what hit the towers.
But TheQuest is not done with demonstrating his powerful inductive reasoning:
I belive Mark Burnback lied.
In fact he didn't lie once, he lied twice. He lied in a followup converstaion and he reiterated his claim that the "plane had no windows" or "I didn't see any windows." He called attention to that detail. Yet, we have a windows in the fuselage section. MArk Burnback was not mistaken, he lied. Plain and simple.
Here's where it gets interesting.
IF it is accepted that Burnback lied, why would the perps have someone lie that a fuel tanker or cargo plane was used instead of an airliner?
So here's what we are left with. Either Mark Burnback lied, or he was mistaken and the evidence was planted. How do we know the evidence was planted? The perps know that they couldn't count on inexperienced ameture pilots to find thier targets so if plane wreckage was found it shouldn't have included a fuselage section with passenger windows in it . Not only that, the perps knew they couldn't count on the 'hijackers' to carry out the exercize. So no, no passenger plane with "muslim fanatics" flew that plane.
So why the lie?
But not to worry. Phil (Podgod) Jayhan shows up to preach podology to the Loosers. Just an amazing thread; my guess is that the next person with a room-temperature IQ to post on that thread will also be the first.
posted by Pat @ 11:03 AM
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It is absolutely amazing. It reminds me of how a fish in a net becomes more tangled as it struggles.
Ok, so on the word of a single guy it's a tanker, but when the physical evidence doesn't match it's planted?
They can never lose!
Of course Burnback could simply be mistaken but the word is out already that a fuel tanker is what hit the tower.
Of course if they had done a little research they would have discovered that the US does not have any 767 fuel tankers. In fact they don't even have dual engine tankers of any type.
If I remember correctly James, the last CTer who discovered that the US has no 767 tankers then wehnt on to say that Israel had 767 tankers at the time. Ofcourse, he forgot to include any evidence, and I've been unable to locate any. We DO however know that the Italians purchased some 767 tankers in june of 2001, so, using CT logic, it's possible that the Italians blew up the WTC.
They purchased them in 2001, but they were not delivered until 2005. Those were the first KC-767 tankers to come off the line. The USAF has never received any.
The second craft to hit the towers was clearly a mock-up craft disguised to look like a passenger jet. So there we have a large section of the plane intact yet no black boxes or limbs nearby? Mmmmmkay..
And in other news, my Man Ahmadinejad tells it like it is yet one more time:
Israel is a ‘fake regime’ - that explains all the lies
OK genius, then please explain to us what model of plane it was. Where it was manufactured, and who owned it.
Where it was manufactured, and who owned it.
When you tell me where the body parts and black boxes are I will oblige.
translation: i have no idea what im talking about or what happened, but i assure you the govt did it
translation: "you win. we have no clue why there aren't any bodies near there or black boxes."
Israel is a ‘fake regime’ - that explains all the lies
Thanks, I just owned that guy.
We're not the ones drawing unsupported conclusions asshole. YOU are the one claiming that the aircraft weren't real. That puts the onus on you to provide evidence to that effect. I know that "logic" is a foreign concept to you, so take my word for it, that's how it works. You make a claim, you have to provide the evidence for it. You can't just ask others to disprove it and then say "I win" when they tell you to get fucked.
Thanks, I just owned that guy.
Back attcha..
Nessie:
they do have a point, given you said that the second plane was "CLEARLY" a mock-up craft designed to look like a passenger jet.
I would be interested in shoing me the evidence that makes this so...CLEAR!
I would be interested in shoing me the evidence that makes this so...CLEAR!
Where the bodies?!?!?!? Airplane crashes have many bodies in them. How come that's not the case here? Clearly, this was NOT a passenger jet. Oh, and I don’t want to hear about DNA after the facts. Where’s the limbs, clothing, luggage and all other stuff passengers would be carrying? Passports found after the fact do not count either.
We all know Black Boxes can survive 2 billion pounds going downwards crushing it.
So that part of the airplane pictured there was indestructible? Typical OS’er logic.
Airplane crashes have many bodies in them.
When's the last time you saw a massive scyscraper fall on top of an airplane crash?
Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? Have you gotten yourself analyzed yet? I know you think that all the doictors and psychiatrists are Joooooos, but it wouldn't hurt to get yourself checked so you'll at least know what the clinical term for your problem is.
So that part of the airplane pictured there was indestructible?
No, it got ejected away from the crash. In every crash you wreckage spreading out over a large area. The skin of the aircraft is OUTIDE and lightly attached to the frame. The Black boxes are INSIDE and tightly attached to the frame. Keeping that in mind, which one do you suppose is more likey to end up far away from the wreckage? A fragment of aircraft skin, or one of the black boxes?
In every crash you wreckage spreading out over a large area.
So if that's the case, then we should see some limbs and other passenger artifacts right were that big ol piece is no?
No.
"Podgod"...LOL!! I love it!
LOL! Same category as "Chosen People." :D
Kosher "Al Qaeda" Adam Perlman wants Americans to join Al-CIA-duh...
Al-Qaida's deputy issues new videotape
Oh, BTW, Where's Osama?????
Uh, how do you figure he's a Jew? He's a Muslim.
Oh, and I don’t want to hear about DNA after the facts. Where’s the limbs, clothing, luggage and all other stuff passengers would be carrying? Passports found after the fact do not count either.
ROTFLMAO
LALALALALA I am not listening, don't tell me about any evidence that contradicts me.
So that part of the airplane pictured there was indestructible? Typical OS’er logic.
Wow...
So we know the pentagon crash was faked because it left behind no large recognizable fragments.
And we know the WTC crashes were faked because they DID leave one or more large recognizable fragments?
You don't have the slightest clue what you're saying from one minute to the next. You don't even bother to check whatever vomitous filth that comes to mind against what you've previously spewed. You just barf up whatever will allow you to vent your literally unthinking hatred.
You are one sad little pygmy.
1. I am not jewish.
2. Skin, muscle, fascia, veins, arteries, bones, nerves...all very fragile, easily turned to pulp..
3. Where is your proof that they found no remains of anyone in the WTC rubble. Do you expect them to roll out the remains for you to see.
4. Have you looked at the pictures in the Moussaoui Trial that show the remains of those who fell to their death before the collapse. These poor creatures didn't get burned, they didnt come crashing into a building at 400-500 mph. They didnt then have a 110 storey skyscraper fall around and ontop of them...yet what is left of their bodies when they hit the pavement...go look NESSIE...go look...then comeback, and tell me that there should be "limbs" left from the airplane victims.
Example A:
Person jumps from 90 floors up, hits pavement - result: pile of unrecognizable flesh and bone.
Example B:
Person in a flying hunk of metal crashes into a steel framed building at 500mph. Subsequent fireball engulfs all. 50 minutes later said building collapses, all contents within it fall...result:?????????
1. I am not jewish.
While it is feasible that human remains would be sparse, that section indicates that the black boxes should have survived.
Black boxes, black boxes, black boxes!
Why are you so concerned with black boxes at Ground Zero if you think the ones at Shanksville are fake? You can't have it both ways. Maybe the reason why black boxes were found at one site and not the other has something to do with giant skyscrapers falling on them?
yes, or they could have been there, but in such an unrecognizable state, that they were thrown out with other metal scraps...perhaps in a pile of debris picked up in a tractor scoop or some such...who knows...
I mean he rides around in a little yellow bus all day and wears a padded helmet, so why argue with him?
In the ridiculous hope that he'll become enlightened.
Hell, I also love arguing.
or they could have been there, but in such an unrecognizable state, that they were thrown out with other metal scraps...
Nope, they were actually found! Ha! I was holding that back. Nice how the feds are sitting on this evidence and the 911 omission commission lied about these facts.
LOL!!
I will say he is quit entertaining in his imaginery delusional way.
Hey, enlightening you guys is quit fun as well! :D
Might wanna fix that link.
Hey, enlightening you guys is quit fun as well! :D
What'd I say about that Orwellian word use?
You're about the farthest from enlightened/wise/knowledgable that one can find on the planet.
Uh, how do you figure he's a Jew? He's a Muslim.
His real name is Adam Pearlman and his father is head of the local ADL chapter or a similar organization. By way of deception fits nicely in Pearlman’s case.
Might wanna fix that link.
Typo...
9/11 "black box" cover-up at Ground Zero?
Nessie idea of evidence is a story told by an honorary fireman trying to promote his book, who was later arrested for stealing equipment from the fire department.
His dad's a Christian.
"My father is a halal butcher and supplies to an Islamic Food Mart a few blocks from the Islamic Center in downtown Los Angeles."
"My mother was raised Catholic, so she leans towards Christianity (although she, like my father, disregards the Trinity)."
Those are his own words.
Nessie idea of evidence is a story told by an honorary fireman trying to promote his book, who was later arrested for stealing equipment from the fire department.
Both of them?
His account is supported by a volunteer, Mike Bellone, whose efforts at Ground Zero have been chronicled in the New York Times and elsewhere. Bellone said assisted DeMasi and the agents and that saw a device that resembling a “black box” in the back of the firefighter’s ATV.
Nessie, you were wrong about Pearlman. So the score is -
Me: 1381094719032741234
You: 0
Those are his own words.
Yeah and he's also playing a terrorist. Adam Pearlmen is his REAL name! Adam is the grandson of the late Carl K. Pearlman; a prominent Jewish urologist in Orange County. Carl was also a member of the board of directors of the Anti-Defamation League, which was caught spying on Americans for Israel in 1993, much as AIPAC has been caught up in the more recent spy scandal.
So NOW the story is...the government crashed two military 767 tankers (let's ignore the fact that they didn't exist back then) into the WTC. But they somehow forgot to remove the voice and data recorders from them. So 3 days later some poor bastard at the CIA had an "oh shit" moment, and sent a team to go recover them. And due to the efforts of "the ATV guy", we now know the truth.
Yep, seems real likely. Someone give nessie a juice box.
Yeah and he's also playing a terrorist.
He's not playing a part, moron.
His father converted to Christianity, and was mostly agnostic. His mother was Christian and homeschooled the family.
If you think they planned to have this ONE American kid convert and become the token white guy for al-Qaeda you're dumber than I thought. They went back two generations to make the plot.
He's not playing a part, moron.
He's not a real terrorist. None of those guys are. They are Zionist propaganda mouthpieces spewing their filth to make you hate Muslims.
some poor bastard at the CIA had an "oh shit" moment
Why would that be the case? They were always on the lookout for evidence and made every effort to conceal it such as the videotapes at the pentagon.
They are Zionist propaganda mouthpieces spewing their filth to make you hate Muslims.
It's been said before, but you are without a doubt the dumbest person I have even encountered on the internet. You have absolutely no idea how logic works, you have no idea how reasoning works, you don't understand how the world works, and you have zero filter for evidence. It would be sad if you weren't so annoying.
Anyway, they're doing a piss-poor job, since I don't hate Muslims. Unlike you, I don't paint with a broad brush.
His dad's a Christian.
Yeah, just like Adolf.
So was Islam just a conspiracy by the Jews (even though when it was founded it they had scattered to the winds)? I mean Mohammed was a warlord who killed everyone who didn't convert, and expanded like crazy.
Was the Koran written by Jews to make Muslims look bad? I mean it has all that stuff about enslaving/destroying unbelievers and all.
Anyway, they're doing a piss-poor job, since I don't hate Muslims.
"Al Qaeda" is doing a marvelous job. They got two countries bombed and more on the way. That's a success in my book. That’s how logic work and unfortunately you can’t see what’s right in front of your face.
Yeah, just like Adolf.
And your ideas about Adolf are totally wrong, so that statement means nothing.
Nesnyc, understand this, he was not a tool of the Zionist folks behind-the-curtains. He was a warmonger who cultivated German antisemitism to rise to power and conquer Europe. I know it's a shame that's the "mainstream" view, unfortunately for you it's what happened.
That's a success in my book.
By that logic I hate all Shintoists and Protestants since I think World War II was a good idea for us to fight.
See? I was right about you not understanding logic.
Was the Koran written by Jews to make Muslims look bad? I mean it has all that stuff about enslaving/destroying unbelievers and all.
All monotheistic religions have been compromised and their constituency controlled from unseen hands. Religious doctrines are nothing but ways to control the masses not unlike money.
"Al Qaeda" is doing a marvelous job.
And they're a group of Muslims. They're not a fake group created by the CIA. They're takfiri.
I know none of this will sink in because you're thick as a brick, but I'll just through it out.
All monotheistic religions have been compromised and their constituency controlled from unseen hands.
And the groups like al-Qaeda (if you think they're a US/Zionist group, again, you're wrong) follow the horrid parts of the Koran to the letter.
By that logic I hate all Shintoists and Protestants since I think World War II was a good idea for us to fight.
See? I was right about you not understanding logic.
You're getting close! One of the main goals of WW2 was to severely diminish or eliminate Protestant power in Germany. That goal was definitely achieved.
You're getting close!
No, I'm not, as I don't hate either of those groups.
And wrong.
Why would that be the case? They were always on the lookout for evidence and made every effort to conceal it such as the videotapes at the pentagon.
Because, you twit, having to conceal evidence AFTER the fact is a failiure in planning. In the case of your mysterious black boxes, it would have made much more sense to remove them BEFORE the aircraft hit the building. That should have been no problem since, according to you, they were government aircraft. So yes it would have been an "oh shit" moment because someone would have really f**d up their job.
follow the horrid parts of the Koran to the letter.
They are Wahhabists who were manipulated and promoted by British colonialism so as to create the conditions were the Arabs would not pose a threat to the British controllers. Divide and conquer, it’s the oldest trick in the book.
No, I'm not, as I don't hate either of those groups.
And wrong.
Not saying you hate them, but someone did. Protestant power in Germany posed a threat to the eventual creation of the EU so Germany had to be weakened and broken up. The big picture is that WW2 is just a stepping stone to global government.
Non-sync, have you ever tried out for the special olympics?
The big picture is that WW2 is just a stepping stone to global government.
That's why the number of countries almost doubled from that time?
it would have made much more sense to remove them BEFORE the aircraft hit the building. That should have been no problem since, according to you, they were government aircraft.
How would they get off the ground? Also, these were supposedly remote controlled aircraft and the flight data recorders must have had a role in keeping track of the stats.
If they could remote control planes which can't be remote controlled I'm sure they could figure out how to fly without the black boxes.
That's why the number of countries almost doubled from that time?
We now have an EU and an EU constitution. But turn back the clock, the reality was that the USSR was allowed to confiscate half of Europe and the West the other. So in essence there were actually more territory in less hands than before.
But turn back the clock, the reality was that the USSR was allowed to confiscate half of Europe and the West the other. So in essence there were actually more territory in less hands than before.
The West didn't actually control Western Europe, they were all autonomous nations. And they weren't allowed to, they broke their agreement to allow Eastern Europe to be free after the war.
Man, you haven't got one thing right about WW2 in any of your comments on this entire blog.
And your ideas about Adolf are totally wrong, so that statement means nothing.
Nesnyc, understand this, he was not a tool of the Zionist folks behind-the-curtains. He was a warmonger who cultivated German antisemitism to rise to power and conquer Europe. I know it's a shame that's the "mainstream" view, unfortunately for you it's what happened.
You should rephrase "unfortunately for us, that's what we're told happened." Hitler was partly Jewish and had a partly Jewish SS command. They selectively purged Jews who were against Zionism and used those deaths to frighten the rest into Palestine according to Zionist ambitions. That’s what really happened and why the world is so screwed up today.
How would they get off the ground? Also, these were supposedly remote controlled aircraft and the flight data recorders must have had a role in keeping track of the stats.
Now I KNOW you're retarded. That's like asking how your car could possibly be turned on when the CD player is missing. Get a clue thundernuts. Recorders have nothing to do with flying the plane.
The West didn't actually control Western Europe
Uh, how many "allied" bases were set up post WW2? Thought so.
Man, you haven't got one thing right about WW2 in any of your comments on this entire blog.
Well if it refutes "official" history then I'm mostly correct on everything I have posted.
Uh, how many "allied" bases were set up post WW2? Thought so.
And the fact that the vast majority of these bases no longer exists is due to....what? Well, me personaly? I'd say the evidence suggest they were set up to stop the USSR, and the fact that them being shut down coencided with the death of the USSR seems to back that idea. Ofcourse, you don't see it this way. To you it's just a coincidence right? The bases were really shut down because....the "Zionists" want to make their plan to take over the world even more unneccesarily complicated?
And the fact that the vast majority of these bases no longer exists is due to
The purge of the resistance is complete. You now see the same processes occurring in Iraq.
Well if it refutes "official" history then I'm mostly correct on everything I have posted.
Contrary to your warped and retarded worldview, the official history tends to be right. The problem is, nothing you say is supported by the facts. The official history almost always is.
The purge of the resistance is complete.
Uh, no, the USSR collapsed. The aggressor.
if there was any control being exerted, hed have known about it
How many localities began to issue their own currency? No one dared or the smack down was in place for anyone who dared oppose the new controllers. This is what the military was in place for. Not for security but to keep the masses subservient to the central bankers and for eventual unification into the greater EU.
Uh, no, the USSR collapsed. The aggressor.
Nope. The aggressors are political groups that wanted out of the centralized control of the banking oligarchy.
It's a shame they keep disbanding all these empires (Ottoman, Soviet, British, Nazi), it'd be a lot easier to have a one world government if you just combined them.
Then again, that'd be logical.
Nope. The aggressors are political groups that wanted out of the centralized control of the banking oligarchy.
Wrong.
The problem is, nothing you say is supported by the facts.
So you say.
it'd be a lot easier to have a one world government if you just combined them.
Then again, that'd be logical.
That may sound good on the surface but the way to achieve this is a really bumpy road and many innocent people get killed in the process. But when the time comes are you prepared to see the end of the US Constitution? That's what it will come to.
So you say.
Yes, and I'm right.
But when the time comes are
The people destroying the Constitution right now are ordinary citizens.
And as I've said before I hate the UN.
Heh, asswipe over there seems to think that all of Europe has been using the Euro as currency since WW2.
My, what wonderfull research skils you've got insync.
I'd go with legaly insane over legaly retarded, but either way he shouldn't be allowed to wander the streets unsupervised.
Seeing someone who really is as evil and stupid as Nesnyc is reassuring in an odd way.
No matter what happens to us, we will always know we aren't the most @#$%ed up person on the planet.
None of them are much better. They make the same tired old arguments - the only difference is that most aren't quite as anti-semitic, and don't buy into as many unrelated CT's. But when it comes to the main 9/11 CT, they're all just as ignorant.
Most conspiracy theorists will only debate in an environment they can control. So they can ban you, delete or alter your comments if you contradict them.
I've sparred with a few nutters who are much less offensive than Ahmadinejad Jr. here. He's unusual in that he sticks around to get beat up on, because he's so delusional he refuses to understand that he's being made a fool of. The vast majority flee when you show the slightest hint of being able to counter their claims. They all spout platitudes about how it's good to have an open mind and they're only asking questions, and without fail pat themselves on the back for their "courage." James B.'s paper mentioned the religious aspect, which is spot on. It's like the modern version of a 1st century mystery cult.
He loves the attention though.
Please post the
1. Source for the picture.
2. Source for the comment on the picture.
3. Aeronautical engineers who can examine the evidence to determine what the piece of rubble is and from where it came.
How did the plane survive but the building turned to dust? If I'm asking a treasonous question please forgive me, I thought I was an American.
photo of the blue logo plane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdHUj_n0Nuo
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